| ryannathans | yes | 00:02 |
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| ryannathans | the one you downloaded | 00:02 |
| ryannathans | make sure your computer shows file extensions | 00:02 |
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| elesbb | it does . the only one that didnt was the zImage . and yeah i just did as you said and its still not workinggg gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 00:07 |
| elesbb | shooot me | 00:07 |
| elesbb | wifi shows green check box , under neath it says scanning ... then stops , then says it again .. and never shows any networks . | 00:08 |
| elesbb | well im out for the night . hope i get this working | 00:16 |
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| arrrghhh | ryannathans, couldn't even point him to the FAQ.... for shame. | 03:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'm betting wifi's never worked for him. | 03:46 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, bedtiem | 03:46 |
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| d3tul3 | emwe nice work on tracking down the soild light bit | 08:42 |
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| elesbb | hey guys is there anyway to turn off the g sensor to save battery ? | 10:59 |
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| elesbb | so anyone have any idea how to disable the g sensor ? | 11:50 |
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| d3tul3 | so er, currently even if auto backlight is set ON, android acts on the light sensor only when initially powering on the screen? even though the sensor is continually polled for values? | 14:25 |
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| elesbb | arrrghhh you there ? | 15:57 |
| elesbb | or anyone ? lol | 15:57 |
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| arrrghhh | d3tul3, just flashed OMGB | 17:18 |
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| d3tul3 | oh excellent | 17:25 |
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, is there a tree available for the build...what does the OM in omgb stand for anyway | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | it is excellent | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh my? | 17:26 |
| elesbb | hey arrrghhh | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, no | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | :D sorry | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | OMGB is too entertaining right now. what's up? | 17:26 |
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, can you check if in OMGB the screen brightness updates on the fly with auto-backlight on? | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | it even has the electron beam :D:D | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, sure! | 17:27 |
| elesbb | what do you mean no !? :O lol | 17:27 |
| d3tul3 | grab a flash light turn on the screen and then flash the light on/off at the light sensor | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | well that was really odd | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | making a call was... pretty much what mgross was describing | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | i got a FC on phone.apk basically | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | now my signal says no bars | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | yet the call went thru | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | the UI seems to think it didn't. but i can hear it on the earpiece. angry sprint guy | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | this is my tester w/o service... | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it's time to flash the main phone :D | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | end doesn't seem to be home anymoar :( | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | wifi works | 17:34 |
| elesbb | hey arrrghhh my wifi doesnt work ... | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, has it ever worked in Android? | 17:34 |
| elesbb | way before yes from memory | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | well did you change anythign? | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | anything.... | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | like when you update kernels (the zImage file) you have to match the modules | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, shit i'm going to have to go outside i think. gasp. | 17:36 |
| elesbb | no i didnt change anything except for when the other guy told me to update the latest kernal and modules | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | although the screen seems to update at random. not when i would expect it to at least. flooding the sensor with some light hasn't done much. we'll see what sunlight does. | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, did you remove the old? | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | and make sure the new modules matches the new kernel...? | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | that's very important for wifi. | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | and if it's never worked, there's a section of the FAQ that mentions a fix. | 17:37 |
| elesbb | alright i'll take a look but im pretty sure it worked | 17:37 |
| elesbb | and how do i match them ? | 17:38 |
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, don't worry about it if you don't have an LED light handy to flash at it......you know if the builg code for OMGB is on gitorious? | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | i do note | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | not* | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's in nate's thread | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if the process is the same or not | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | you want to build your own nbh...? | 17:39 |
| d3tul3 | oh github | 17:39 |
| d3tul3 | no i want to peak at their code:) | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | 2.3.5 baby | 17:39 |
| d3tul3 | well anyways the reason i was askign is because i figured out how to get Android to make on the fly adjustments in froyo, and everything works great, however i am not sure if this is considered moving away from AOSP | 17:40 |
| d3tul3 | as in not sure if that's what happens on native devices | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how much acl had to change | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | on the userland side to get this to work.... | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | remove the SD, Android still works. win. | 17:43 |
| elesbb | arrrghhh, how do i "match" the kernal to the modules ? | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | first, kernel | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | second, they're paired, right? | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | when you download a kernel from glemsom's site | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | it should come with a zImage file | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | and a modules-23534523lkj345lkj.tar.gz file | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | they are paired | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | hence you should remove the old zImage and module-2352387.tar.gz files | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | before putting the new ones in | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | so you know that they match | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | get it? | 17:52 |
| elesbb | i did that ... though .. | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | well that's what i mean | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | by making sure they match... | 17:52 |
| elesbb | ohhh .. sooo why does it still refuse to work for me :( | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | you act like i am sitting right next to you, seeing what you've messed up | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | if wifi's never worked for you | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | there's a tip in the FAQ | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | like i said | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | if it has worked before, it's unlikely that trick/tip is required, and you've just messed something up | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | without logs, or your assured knowledge i can't help any further | 17:54 |
| d3tul3 | later arrrghhh post updates about your experience with omgb | 17:54 |
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| arrrghhh | i dun wanna | 17:54 |
| elesbb | well im positive i didnt personally change anything , i'll take a look at the FAQ sorry for being a pain arrrghhh . | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, well i really can't do much more | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | unless i had logs that say android can't see your MAC | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | then i don't know if you need to do that wifi-nvram.txt trick | 17:55 |
| elesbb | when i go into wifi settings android shows me my MAC .. i'll double check the zimage and modules . | 17:56 |
| elesbb | do i need to check rootfs as well ? | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | unless you mucked with it | 17:57 |
| elesbb | i only downloaded the latest one . thats it | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | shouldn't be an issue | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | but if it still doesn't work | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | break it down to the basics | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | rename your data.img to data.bak. boot again, test wifi | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | still busted, start with a fresh bundle | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | still busted format the card | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | still busted, throw phone out window | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | buy new phone | 17:58 |
| elesbb | alright i shall do that . all but the latter lol | 17:59 |
| elesbb | thanks dude | 17:59 |
| elesbb | my first attempt im just gonna put back the modules and kernal you included in your full bundle | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | k | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | modules might not have extracted correctly too | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | i always forget that one | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should've started with that one actually | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 18:00 |
| elesbb | lol i shall figure it out somehow | 18:00 |
| elesbb | oh and is there a way to disable the gsensor ? | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | using android w/o SD card. f yes. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | why would you want to do a horrible thing like that | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | and yes, of course there is. in settings. | 18:01 |
| elesbb | i hate how it rotates the screen on me -,- | 18:01 |
| elesbb | there is ? i didnt find it .. i'll look harder | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | under display IIRC | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm blowing things up on my phone, so i'm not really going to be too helpful right now. | 18:02 |
| elesbb | lol alright . i didnt even think of looking in display . i'll leave you alone now | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | shit | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | it seems frozen. | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'm way too impatient for this thing to freeze. | 18:03 |
| elesbb | thats not good .. | 18:03 |
| elesbb | well im gonna go figure out this wifi issue . thanks arrrghh for everything | 18:04 |
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| arrrghhh | RIL Daemon version: XDandroid/Vogue Community RIL | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | god damnit | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | Creating GSMPhone | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | might be a problem. | 18:38 |
| stinebd | no, the problem would be if it were cdma, because cdma blows assnuggets | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | yeayea | 18:41 |
| stinebd | how YOU doin | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | i haz OMGB on my RHOD | 18:42 |
| stinebd | i haz who gives a crap on my atrix | 18:42 |
| stinebd | so there | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | pulling out the SD card while Android running is strangely empowering. | 18:42 |
| stinebd | you should really unmount it first | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | it gave me an error | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | "sd unmounted unexpectedly" | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | oops | 18:43 |
| stinebd | i'd be interested in knowing if sd unmount works correctly | 18:43 |
| stinebd | and format actually | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | on OMGB? | 18:43 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:43 |
| stinebd | although who knows what code base they're using for that | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | unmount works | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | as i understand it, the thing is mostly AOSP | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | with some crap kanged from CM | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like us really. | 18:44 |
| stinebd | we kang stuff from CM that was kanged from other places | 18:44 |
| stinebd | not the original stuff like cmparts | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | erasing SD card | 18:45 |
| stinebd | oh i forgot to mention | 18:45 |
| stinebd | you should back up your sd card first | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | nooooooooooooo | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | don't care. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | works | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | along with mass storage | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | the system itself is fan-fucking-tastic | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | but the RIL... it's not workin so well. i don't think acl figured out how to get hyc's RIL working properly. | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | seems like some bastard child form of his RIL | 18:46 |
| stinebd | hyc's ril might depend on some level of preworkage due to haret | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i guess we'll figure it out in tiem | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i sent acl some logz | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | now i need to get back to haret | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | so i can get ready for this concert | 18:46 |
| stinebd | foreigner? | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | bush/chevelle | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | got a bunch of free tickets | 18:48 |
| stinebd | are you hot blooded? | 18:48 |
| stinebd | do you have double vision? | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i'd normally pay to see either. | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | no meatwad | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | without trying to sound cliche, i do like bush | 18:48 |
| stinebd | pretty sure you are hot blooded actually | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | they haven't put out an album in ages | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i could care less about chevelle. | 18:48 |
| stinebd | which band is the headliner? | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i'dassume bush | 18:48 |
| stinebd | i've never heard of chevelle | 18:49 |
| stinebd | unless the band is a car | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | i shoulda tested reboot into recovery | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | chevelle has had a little radio success | 18:49 |
| stinebd | not on my radio | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | the red is probably their most popular | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trinU3VD1Zo | 18:50 |
| stinebd | you ever use comodo for ssl certs? | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, nope | 18:51 |
| stinebd | well don't | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:51 |
| stinebd | i updated my atrix aosp tree to 2.3.7 yesterday | 18:52 |
| stinebd | at least i think it was yesterday | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | not really part of my yob | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | you need to stop that | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | and work on XDAndroid :D | 18:52 |
| stinebd | anyway the comodo positivessl cert i use on my mail server stopped validating after the update | 18:52 |
| stinebd | with the weirdest error i've ever seen | 18:52 |
| stinebd | turns out it was malformed, and continue to be after a reissue | 18:52 |
| stinebd | so i said screw it and went to rapidssl | 18:53 |
| stinebd | asshole comodo | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | sounds fun | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | i forgot to fix the spacing in all three logs | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | i only fixed the spacing in the radio log. oh well. | 18:54 |
| stinebd | weird thing is it worked in the browser (while still showing the same error in logcat) | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:54 |
| stinebd | but the mail client just refused to connect | 18:54 |
| stinebd | double spaced, APA format? | 18:54 |
| stinebd | two spaces between sentences, half-inch tabs and all that shit | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | should be fun for acl to read | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | one is fixed, the other two fucked. lol | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure i'll send him plenty moar | 18:56 |
| stinebd | convert it to a pdf with font size 72, then send it to him | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | evil | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | shit | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | flashed the wrong winmo rom. oh well. | 18:58 |
| stinebd | absurd | 18:59 |
| stinebd | they're all the wrong winmo rom | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | touche | 19:02 |
| stinebd | did you see the youtube video of the att sgs2 lock screen bug? | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | no | 19:03 |
| stinebd | it's hilarious | 19:04 |
| stinebd | when using a pin or pattern lock, if the device has ever been unlocked since first booting, to bypass the lock screen all you have to do is turn the screen on, let it turn off, then turn it back on again | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | very secure... | 19:05 |
| stinebd | samsung is all about convenience | 19:05 |
| stinebd | rest assured, if you ever have an unexpected lobotomy, you'll still be able to get into your phone | 19:06 |
| hyc | bah. Paying for certs. wtf. I make my own | 19:07 |
| stinebd | well some of us don't own trusted CAs | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | don't you have to pay to have them signed by a CA? | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol yea... that. | 19:08 |
| hyc | why? I just load my CA cert into my clients | 19:08 |
| stinebd | my clients suffer from a terrible disease that inhibits their ability to do so | 19:08 |
| stinebd | it's called mental retardation | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:08 |
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| arrrghhh | man | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | this shit works really freaking well. | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | gotta sort out the RIL issues. that's crippling. | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | voice search works so freakin fast it's amazing. | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | seems no bt or cam... | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | other than that i'd say it's pretty much there. | 19:22 |
| hyc | what are you testing? | 19:23 |
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| stinebd | nand gingerbread from acl | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, OMGB ^^ | 19:24 |
| hyc | cool | 19:24 |
| hyc | RIL is unstable on NAND? | 19:24 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: does it boot with a sim installed? | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i think he's using some bastard child of the RIL | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | not yours | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, no | 19:24 |
| hyc | oh, is this still CDMA only? | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA only at this point... | 19:25 |
| hyc | oh well | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | he said he has an idea how to split it properly | 19:25 |
| stinebd | sim in = arm9 crash on boot | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | so at least GSM users can boot and try to help... | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i didn't get that, but i dunno. | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | i had to pull the SIM to boot tho | 19:25 |
| stinebd | arm9 crash = reboot loop | 19:25 |
| stinebd | when talking about nand | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | it's not ready for GSM yet | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully ACL will release that soon | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | so then everyone can help troubleshoot... | 19:26 |
| stinebd | you can still boot on gsm without a sim | 19:26 |
| stinebd | just you obviously have no radio | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | kinda useless. | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | tjat | 19:27 |
| stinebd | not really | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | der | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | that's pretty much where CDMA is right now | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure what ACL did to/with the RIL, but the version came up quite generic. | 19:27 |
| stinebd | acl is a bad bad man when it comes to rils | 19:28 |
| hyc | lol | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/a6dbCvJh | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | in case anyone is interested in the radio logcat... | 19:28 |
| hyc | so he's still got his own version? | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't talk to him much today | 19:29 |
| stinebd | pretty clear what's happening there | 19:29 |
| hyc | can't check right now, rcompiling my mozilla | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | he released really late last night, and we've bounced a few emails around. | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, no biggie | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | supposedly prox work | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | works* | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | but the RIL is so FUBAR, i can't really test it lol | 19:30 |
| hyc | tmo has been doing weird stuff to me lately | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | like merging with AT&T? | 19:30 |
| hyc | if a call goes to voicemail, I don't get a msg from the caller. | 19:30 |
| hyc | the msg in the vmail is a tmo recording | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | weird.... | 19:31 |
| stinebd | lol awesome | 19:31 |
| hyc | "press 1 to answer, press 2 for blah, press 3 for callierID info" | 19:31 |
| hyc | and then it continues with "I'm sorry, the incoming call is no longer available" | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'd press 1 | 19:31 |
| stinebd | should probably switch to gvoicemail | 19:32 |
| stinebd | if possible | 19:32 |
| hyc | pretty darn useless, anyway. | 19:32 |
| hyc | hmmm | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | gvoicemail is tits | 19:32 |
| hyc | gvoice, mebbe | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | i went full blown | 19:32 |
| stinebd | at least you'll actually get voicemail | 19:32 |
| hyc | heh | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | sprint lets you convert your number over | 19:33 |
| hyc | yah, saw that | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | pretty schweet | 19:33 |
| hyc | does gvoice accept regular SIP calls yet? | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | don't think so | 19:33 |
| stinebd | no | 19:33 |
| hyc | really annoying | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | still need another provider | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why, other than carriers gettin pissed at them. | 19:34 |
| stinebd | i used a sipgate+gvoice hack orgy on my trip | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | i could try that on my tester i guess | 19:34 |
| hyc | I've done that before, but there's always a hugely noticeable lag | 19:34 |
| stinebd | and sipdroid | 19:34 |
| stinebd | wasn't bad for me | 19:34 |
| stinebd | actually i didn't notice any lag worse than on a cell phone | 19:34 |
| hyc | interesting | 19:34 |
| stinebd | but it was on docomo | 19:34 |
| hyc | it was unbearable for me. in Ireland, calling back to US | 19:35 |
| stinebd | not a shitty american carrier | 19:35 |
| stinebd | docomo is among the best in the world in terms of latency | 19:35 |
| hyc | and no echo cancellation. nasty. | 19:35 |
| hyc | 2-second delayed echo | 19:35 |
| hyc | mebbe only 1-sec, but extremely distracting | 19:35 |
| stinebd | echo as in handset feedback? | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i should start a list of shit that don't work in OMGB for ACL :D | 19:36 |
| hyc | mm, well, it shouldn't have been the handset itself | 19:36 |
| hyc | but hearing myself come back a second after I spoke | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | that sucks | 19:37 |
| stinebd | weird | 19:37 |
| stinebd | like when you're talking to someone who has you on speaker | 19:37 |
| hyc | yeah | 19:37 |
| stinebd | wonder what would cause that on a sip stream | 19:38 |
| hyc | so anyway, my experience with sip to gvoice relays has not impressed me :P | 19:38 |
| stinebd | i did have one problem with it | 19:39 |
| stinebd | the atrix has a broken audio driver which makes sound choppy if it's not at a specific sample rate | 19:39 |
| hyc | Hey, when were you most recently in Japan? | 19:39 |
| stinebd | may 19-26 | 19:39 |
| hyc | was looking at a couple phones made by Sharp, coming out on Softbank | 19:40 |
| hyc | I know they use 3G 2100MHz | 19:40 |
| stinebd | yeah, all the networks do | 19:40 |
| hyc | wondering if they typically support US 3G freq too | 19:40 |
| hyc | in their handsets | 19:40 |
| stinebd | not typically | 19:40 |
| hyc | ah kinda figured, too bad | 19:40 |
| stinebd | hate to say it, but especially not typically tmo's | 19:41 |
| hyc | that's ok, this would be a gift for a friend on AT&T | 19:41 |
| stinebd | sometimes you'll get the att/rogers bands | 19:41 |
| hyc | She's a disney-holic. there are a cuople of new Disney android phones coming out this month on softbank/Disney Mobile | 19:42 |
| stinebd | haha wow | 19:42 |
| hyc | yeah, pearl white or princess pink | 19:42 |
| hyc | :P | 19:42 |
| stinebd | well you can check their site and look for the phones marketed with global roaming | 19:42 |
| hyc | 'k | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | Disney mobile... jeez | 19:43 |
| hyc | crazy huh? | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:43 |
| stinebd | looking through the sharps, an awful lot of them have global roaming | 19:43 |
| hyc | they were in the US for a couple years too, with Sprint, and folded up shop | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | g2g | 19:44 |
| stinebd | lol softbank still sells the touch pro | 19:44 |
| hyc | heh | 19:44 |
| hyc | anyway I saw the disney phones on engadget 2011/09/28 | 19:45 |
| hyc | http://www.engadet.com/2011/09/28/disney-launches-two-new-android-smartphones-mouse-ears-not-incl/ | 19:46 |
| stinebd | http://disneymobile.jp/product/dm010sh/ | 19:48 |
| stinebd | beware moonspeak | 19:48 |
| hyc | heh | 19:48 |
| hyc | will need google translate | 19:48 |
| stinebd | mostly images | 19:48 |
| stinebd | but it does have global roaming | 19:49 |
| hyc | yes? nice. | 19:49 |
| hyc | now just have to find someone who will sell it and ship to US | 19:49 |
| stinebd | that's a pretty nice phone | 19:49 |
| stinebd | despite it being disney and all | 19:49 |
| hyc | lol | 19:49 |
| hyc | and it better be SIM-unlocked | 19:49 |
| stinebd | hmm | 19:50 |
| stinebd | i don't know japan's policies on that | 19:50 |
| hyc | yeah, seems like not so straightforward | 19:50 |
| stinebd | http://www.physorg.com/news189420769.html | 19:50 |
| stinebd | who knows if/when that would/will happen | 19:51 |
| hyc | sounds promising anyway. and over a year ago | 19:51 |
| stinebd | i guess you could always call softbank after you get it | 19:52 |
| stinebd | or disney or whoever | 19:52 |
| hyc | call and ask for an unlock code? | 19:52 |
| stinebd | yeah | 19:52 |
| hyc | yeah that could work | 19:52 |
| stinebd | in whichever language they speak | 19:52 |
| hyc | lol | 19:53 |
| stinebd | oh and one more thing to keep in mind | 19:54 |
| stinebd | their phones do not do gsm, so make sure whoever gets this is in an area with solid att 3g coverage | 19:54 |
| hyc | right | 19:54 |
| hyc | kinda makes global roaming dicy huh | 19:55 |
| stinebd | a little, but att is on the same wcdma frequency as softbank | 19:55 |
| hyc | oh, handy | 19:55 |
| hyc | I thought ATT was 1900 | 19:55 |
| stinebd | 1900/2100 | 19:56 |
| hyc | anyway, she's in Europe right now, and she'd actually get a lot of use out of the global aspect | 19:56 |
| hyc | but yeah, the no-2G is a bit of a concern | 19:57 |
| hyc | you used your atrix while you where there? didn't rent a local phone? | 19:58 |
| stinebd | used it with intl roaming | 19:58 |
| stinebd | but rented a wifi hotspot from softbank | 19:58 |
| hyc | ah | 19:59 |
| stinebd | which spent most of its time on docomo's network heh | 19:59 |
| hyc | cute | 19:59 |
| hyc | so that meant you only had VOIP service on your phone | 20:00 |
| stinebd | i had cell service but didn't use it | 20:00 |
| stinebd | actually i used it once at the airport before i got the hotspot | 20:01 |
| stinebd | for the obligatory "we made it alive" call | 20:01 |
| hyc | heh | 20:03 |
| stinebd | actually you're right, att is 1900/850, not 1900/2100 | 20:07 |
| hyc | where does it say that dm010sh is globel roaming? | 20:11 |
| stinebd | you still on the page? | 20:12 |
| stinebd | there's a table (which is an image...) with the heading service | 20:13 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:13 |
| hyc | ok | 20:13 |
| stinebd | right below gps | 20:13 |
| stinebd | 国際ローミング = global roaming | 20:13 |
| hyc | ah hah | 20:13 |
| hyc | the globa icon | 20:13 |
| stinebd | yeah | 20:13 |
| stinebd | actually that says worldwide roaming in the table | 20:14 |
| stinebd | but i guess that's the same thing | 20:14 |
| hyc | good enough | 20:14 |
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| hyc | now just to figure out how to buy one. they require passports and all this documentation crap | 20:14 |
| stinebd | crazy | 20:16 |
| stinebd | i noticed japan is very picky about foreigners | 20:17 |
| stinebd | we're getting there too | 20:17 |
| stinebd | hmm | 20:21 |
| stinebd | http://www.techmistry.com/disney-mobile-dm010sh-3d-smartphone-for-fans-of-disney/ | 20:21 |
| stinebd | Support communications standards: W-CDMA 1500/2100 MHz, GSM 900/1800/1900 MHz | 20:22 |
| hyc | huh. so it has 2G | 20:22 |
| hyc | but no US 3G | 20:22 |
| stinebd | yeah thats a weird one | 20:22 |
| phh | 1.5GHz ? | 20:22 |
| phh | never heard | 20:22 |
| hyc | it's aan old 2G freq | 20:22 |
| hyc | in Japan only | 20:23 |
| hyc | just read about it recently | 20:23 |
| hyc | they decommissioned all the old stuff and reassigned it to 3G | 20:23 |
| stinebd | 1500 is a softbank-only frequency | 20:23 |
| stinebd | they actually have a special name for their APNs on the 1500 towers so that you can avoid them | 20:23 |
| stinebd | wonder where those specs came from | 20:27 |
| hyc | 3D display, cool | 20:29 |
| stinebd | eh, they all do that in japan | 20:29 |
| stinebd | even the dumbphones | 20:29 |
| stinebd | also the newspapers have porn in them | 20:30 |
| hyc | sheesh | 20:30 |
| hyc | ok, other articles say the phones don't go on sale till December | 20:30 |
| hyc | I guess it could be an xmas prez | 20:30 |
| stinebd | well the rangers tied it | 20:31 |
| stinebd | not sure why i'm watching it | 20:32 |
| stinebd | i wonder if they simply don't advertise gsm but their phones still have it | 20:36 |
| hyc | would make sense, it's usually already part of the chipset | 20:36 |
| stinebd | oh docomo actually makes it pretty clear which ones have gsm on their site | 20:42 |
| stinebd | btw the dm010sh is october | 20:50 |
| stinebd | the other one is december | 20:50 |
| hyc | ahh | 20:50 |
| hyc | the 011 says waterproof slider | 20:50 |
| stinebd | http://disneymobile.jp/product/ | 20:50 |
| stinebd | heh yeah | 20:50 |
| hyc | no mention of the dm010 being waterproof? | 20:50 |
| stinebd | actually it specifically states that it isn't waterproof | 20:51 |
| hyc | ok | 20:51 |
| hyc | hmm. only 512MB RAM | 20:52 |
| hyc | She's got a Galaxy S now, this could be a step down | 20:52 |
| stinebd | ram is cheap, shove a few more sticks in it | 20:52 |
| hyc | harhar | 20:52 |
| hyc | if we could do that I'd still be using my G1 | 20:52 |
| stinebd | honestly the page has none of those good specs | 20:53 |
| stinebd | doesn't even say the ram | 20:53 |
| hyc | http://www.landofdroid.com/2011/disney-release-3-new-android-products/ | 20:53 |
| hyc | one of the engadget source links | 20:53 |
| stinebd | yeah but i mean the official product page | 20:53 |
| stinebd | it's amazingly terse | 20:54 |
| stinebd | the only specs, aside from dimensions, are the qsd model and the rom size | 20:54 |
| stinebd | the pink one looks hot | 20:55 |
| hyc | in an effeminate kinda way, I guess :P | 20:55 |
| stinebd | 262MB RAM used on my atrix | 20:56 |
| stinebd | maybe only 512 isn't such a big deal | 20:57 |
| stinebd | although with vendor roms it's probably double | 20:57 |
| stinebd | i never really paid attention when i had moto's junk on there | 20:57 |
| hyc | heh | 20:57 |
| hyc | I was a bit turned off of the Droid3 cause it's only 512M too | 20:57 |
| hyc | but I guess it's still a big step up from the TP2 | 20:57 |
| stinebd | if it were straight-up aosp i'd say it doesn't really matter | 20:58 |
| stinebd | really can't trust manufacturers to be reasonable with their ram usage though | 20:58 |
| hyc | true. all the crap they load on... | 21:03 |
| stinebd | moto in particular likes to set their blur to never terminate | 21:03 |
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