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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20110914_084441) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110914_084441-package.tar.bz2 | 02:52 |
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| ryannathans | that's nice | 02:52 |
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| t0gus4 | Hello. | 06:50 |
| ryannathans | ohai | 06:50 |
| t0gus4 | =] | 06:50 |
| * t0gus4 is installing xdandroid on his HTC phone | 06:50 | |
| ryannathans | ahh yeah | 06:51 |
| t0gus4 | I was looking at the website and trying to figure out if I'll have to also install the latest incremental updates. | 06:51 |
| t0gus4 | but I couldn't see if it was needed. maybe I'm stupid | 06:52 |
| ryannathans | install frx 7.1 | 06:53 |
| ryannathans | and once that's working | 06:53 |
| ryannathans | i will show you what you will need | 06:53 |
| t0gus4 | right | 06:53 |
| t0gus4 | Ya I'm installing the latest version | 06:53 |
| t0gus4 | so I guess that's what you mean | 06:54 |
| ryannathans | where did you get it from | 06:54 |
| t0gus4 | from the xdandroid web | 06:55 |
| ryannathans | o.0 | 06:55 |
| ryannathans | link? | 06:55 |
| t0gus4 | to the web? | 06:55 |
| t0gus4 | or to the file? | 06:55 |
| ryannathans | file | 06:55 |
| t0gus4 | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Version_FRX07 | 06:55 |
| ryannathans | you dowloading full bundleE? | 06:56 |
| t0gus4 | one sec | 06:57 |
| t0gus4 | yes | 06:58 |
| ryannathans | good | 06:58 |
| t0gus4 | =] | 06:59 |
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| t0gus4 | I never rarely use bluetooth so it seems perfect | 07:00 |
| t0gus4 | ignore the word never in my last statement | 07:01 |
| ryannathans | lol | 07:03 |
| t0gus4 | =p | 07:06 |
| * t0gus4 is a little impatient with the install | 07:09 | |
| * t0gus4 wants to see android | 07:09 | |
| ryannathans | what device u gots? | 07:10 |
| t0gus4 | Touch Pro2 | 07:10 |
| ryannathans | ahh goodies | 07:10 |
| ryannathans | same. | 07:10 |
| t0gus4 | =] | 07:10 |
| ryannathans | use this for reference if you want, i wrote it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079 | 07:10 |
| t0gus4 | thanks | 07:10 |
| t0gus4 | That's a very nice post | 07:13 |
| t0gus4 | Humm, I'm curious about the USB on linux | 07:16 |
| t0gus4 | I know the install can take a while, but how long exactly? | 07:19 |
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| ryannathans | whachu mean install | 08:19 |
| ryannathans | is it on black bacground and white writing | 08:19 |
| t0gus4 | ya it was like that for a whie | 08:21 |
| t0gus4 | while* | 08:21 |
| t0gus4 | it turned out it didn't have enough space on the disk | 08:21 |
| t0gus4 | it's now working but I don't seemt o be able to get a data connection going | 08:21 |
| t0gus4 | and what's really bizarre is that it says I'm on BTCellNet when I am on O2 | 08:22 |
| ryannathans | set up apn | 08:23 |
| ryannathans | proberly | 08:23 |
| ryannathans | properly | 08:23 |
| t0gus4 | what do you mean by properly? | 08:23 |
| t0gus4 | Oh I see | 08:24 |
| t0gus4 | I seem to have the right APN carrier there | 08:24 |
| ryannathans | are all the settings for that carrier correct and the button checked? | 08:26 |
| t0gus4 | I can't see many settings, just thename of the carrier, and that is selected | 08:27 |
| ryannathans | click on the name of your carrier | 08:28 |
| ryannathans | not the button | 08:28 |
| t0gus4 | ah | 08:28 |
| t0gus4 | let me see | 08:28 |
| t0gus4 | I see | 08:29 |
| t0gus4 | I have no idea of what should go there | 08:29 |
| ryannathans | check carriers site | 08:29 |
| t0gus4 | but google is my friend | 08:29 |
| ryannathans | indeed | 08:30 |
| t0gus4 | =] | 08:30 |
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| t0gus4 | got it now thanks | 09:17 |
| mgross029 | Anyone know what was included in the new Kernel that was pushed early this morning? Just curious... | 09:17 |
| t0gus4 | quick answer is no | 09:18 |
| mgross029 | lol... good answer... | 09:19 |
| helicopter88 | nothing changed in source.. | 09:20 |
| t0gus4 | I meant to say I don't know. | 09:21 |
| t0gus4 | =p | 09:21 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, changelogs are there for a reason... | 09:21 |
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| ryannathans | ^^ | 09:22 |
| arrrghhh | ACL said he removed some unused code. he was working on prox sensor, so he's probably preparing for that push. | 09:22 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh beat me to it | 09:22 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 09:22 |
| t0gus4 | heh | 09:22 |
| * ryannathans has finally got python working smoothly on mobile devices such as ours | 09:22 | |
| * ryannathans party time | 09:22 | |
| mgross029 | Yeah... Didn't get out to git yet... Only looked at the show comments on incremental updates... | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | just what i always wanted. | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, ditto | 09:23 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: opens opportunity for me to make apps ;D | 09:23 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, thanks | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | python, on my phone! how useless. | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, lolwut | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | you already can | 09:23 |
| ryannathans | I want to make app in python. | 09:24 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 09:24 |
| ryannathans | "Funny - considering how much Google loves Python, one might have thought it would be part of the standard Android install." | 09:25 |
| arrrghhh | and heli was right, the source hasn't changed. i don't see ACL's change in GIT... aruuuuuu | 09:25 |
| ryannathans | oh | 09:25 |
| ryannathans | Making an app in a familiar lanaguage would be better than learning something totally new | 09:25 |
| arrrghhh | holy crap | 09:25 |
| arrrghhh | emwe pushed 1100+ commits. i guess he's back from vaca | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, meh | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno what "apps" you want to make... | 09:26 |
| ryannathans | o.0 | 09:26 |
| ryannathans | 1100?! | 09:26 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: I am interested in android app development, such as that garage door opening | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, ha | 09:27 |
| ryannathans | that was python iirc | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | not sure that requires android app dev | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | maybe on the phone | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | that requires some crazy shite | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | my garage door opener doesn't have a webserver | 09:28 |
| t0gus4 | any suggestions for IRC apps? | 09:28 |
| arrrghhh | or a nic card | 09:28 |
| ryannathans | irssi connectbot | 09:28 |
| arrrghhh | t0gus4, andchat | 09:28 |
| t0gus4 | I wonder if there is a quassel client | 09:28 |
| ryannathans | irssi connectbot is only good if ya have a server with irssi | 09:28 |
| ryannathans | quassel isn't ported for apple products :D | 09:28 |
| t0gus4 | ofc | 09:28 |
| * ryannathans private celebrations | 09:29 | |
| t0gus4 | I remember seeing posts about work on a quassel client for android | 09:29 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, he wrote the android app in java | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | as every other android app is writeen | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | written* | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | http://brad.livejournal.com/2397080.html | 09:30 |
| ryannathans | odd | 09:32 |
| ryannathans | I saw something cool in python | 09:32 |
| ryannathans | can't remember what it was | 09:32 |
| arrrghhh | some of the controller might be python, i dunno | 09:33 |
| arrrghhh | but every android app seems to be java. | 09:34 |
| * ryannathans is not a big fan of java | 09:34 | |
| ryannathans | I had a java game server once | 09:34 |
| ryannathans | not again. | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | last i used java, it wasn't too bad. not that i was 'fluent' in it or anything. | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | don't get me wrong, python is fun | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't know about writing Android apps in it :P | 09:36 |
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| Detule | arrrghhh, fwiw that fb patch seems to make a difference on my phone | 11:15 |
| Detule | but then it could all be placebo | 11:15 |
| Detule | fb patched kernel&modules http://bit.ly/nPy8Qn | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | a difference for the better i assume? | 11:20 |
| Detule | right | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea i notice occasional slow wakes | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | anything to make those disappear is good to me :D | 11:22 |
| Detule | not sure if this will make a difference with those failed, or "almost" failed wakes, but in general it should make the screen wake up faster...from what i can tell wistilt just shortened the duration of a few wakelocks | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | hah | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | whatever works | 11:23 |
| Detule | wake ups are now reminiscent of his test kernels, ....as in sometimes i see the desktop before the lockscreen engages | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 11:25 |
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| arrrghhh | Detule, you thar | 13:34 |
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| Detule | arrrghhh, what's up | 14:33 |
| Detule | emwe, hey how was vacation | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec. want to see if you can whip up a prox sensor kernel for me. | 14:34 |
| emwe | Detule: was fine. crappy net and no working usb tether in gb. fixed that though ;) | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | Detule, basically ACL wrote the prox sensor for NAND | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm hoping you can snag his patch and port it to HaRET | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | so that it may be tested :D | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | sorry for not making that clear Detule :P | 14:46 |
| Detule | no worries this might take me a day or two | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | np | 14:49 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: anything "agreed upon" in the speed testing thread stuff? some min_free everybody is happy with? | 14:50 |
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| arrrghhh | well the one starfox suggested seemed good | 14:50 |
| emwe | ok. | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | but that supercharger script does wonders to be honest. | 14:51 |
| emwe | it's doing ioscheduler magic and tuning as well iirc | 14:51 |
| emwe | whonder how much we can extract. | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | sounds about right | 14:51 |
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| emwe | is there ever gonna be a summary about all tweaks or are people gonna live with that unhandy script? | 14:53 |
| emwe | btw, i wen't ext4 with 4096blocksize but nothing fundamentally better. | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | if you read the thread that dude created, you can get the jist of what the script does | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | it just seemed easier for the end users to show them that script | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | then showing them how to do it manually... | 14:53 |
| emwe | k | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | sorry mate. sometimes i have to sacrifice crap for the ease of the end-users... | 14:54 |
| emwe | total understanding. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 14:56 |
| emwe | hm... did alex answer now or not... arrrghhh, alex' .27 acoustic kernel got fixed up and is working now for rhod? (had to do find some setup bugs in the holidays and then got it to work with alex code) | 14:56 |
| emwe | i read in the logs you tested some builds | 14:56 |
| emwe | and totally offtopic... staying "offline" was quite relaxing. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:57 |
| emwe | apart some rl stuff kicked in this sunday.... storm with tornado nearby and ice balls(?) ruining my car. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | ice balls = hail | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | but anyhoo | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | acoustic is not fixed for RHOD | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | same issues | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | audio randomly dies | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | speakerphone mic doesn't work in-call | 14:58 |
| emwe | ah, but it got up? | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 14:58 |
| emwe | ok, then it's some other stuff then perhaps | 14:58 |
| emwe | dunno what his code state is then. | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | alex gave me a kernel and his libs | 14:58 |
| emwe | regarding hail, the whole region here got fscked up. | 14:58 |
| emwe | know nobody who hasn#t had trouble with damages to houses and cars. | 14:59 |
| emwe | might actually be a full financial damage as the repair costs can likely be higher then the cars value... | 14:59 |
| emwe | garage where are you... | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | hah | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | i haz garage | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | one of the requirements when i bought my house :P | 15:00 |
| emwe | just flat for rent here | 15:01 |
| emwe | and 2 parking lots inside the yard. | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | i got sick of renting | 15:02 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, Still don't have the audio issues you were seeing with Alex's kernel and libs... | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | stfu | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:03 |
| mgross029 | lol | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, they happened on multiple occasions | 15:03 |
| mgross029 | I think it is all of the code you've thrown at that phone... Probably getting tired... :p | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 15:04 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, forgot to ask... Did you ever put those volume cabs from vzihome's thread in WM? | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | no | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | did you? | 15:05 |
| mgross029 | Hmmm... Wonder if that is the issue then... | 15:05 |
| mgross029 | Yes... | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 15:05 |
| mgross029 | Audio has been loud as hell since... | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | that would be retarded, but i guess plausible. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | even without the new acoustic? | 15:05 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: if the 6125 amss code isn't fixed up the acoustic memory offsets are wrong, so that could explain some weirdness | 15:06 |
| mgross029 | Just with FRX7.0... | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | too many variables | 15:07 |
| mgross029 | emwe, wouldn't that be similar to what QuickGPS in WM does to the GPS chip to update it's info? | 15:08 |
| emwe | mgross029: i talked about acoustic, not gps. | 15:09 |
| * emwe is confused | 15:09 | |
| mgross029 | Yes... Understood... | 15:09 |
| mgross029 | If those cabs update something in the 6125 amss chips which would adjust the audio in Android... | 15:10 |
| mgross029 | Then the same would be for the QuickGPS app updating the satelite info in the GPS chip... | 15:11 |
| mgross029 | Sorry for confusion... | 15:11 |
| emwe | i didn't even grasp the .cab stuff right. what do these contain? | 15:12 |
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| emwe | just the acoutic .csv files? | 15:12 |
| mgross029 | Hmmm... I would have to look... | 15:13 |
| emwe | if can, would be interessing. these csv files control pretty much anything audible related. | 15:13 |
| emwe | s/anything/everything | 15:13 |
| emwe | only JB could tear them apart and understand, though ;) | 15:14 |
| mgross029 | Yeah... Noticed that... When I took JB's libaudio and tied it into my WM .CSV files... | 15:15 |
| mgross029 | One cab installs this - <characteristic type="AudioPara3_TP2Max.csv" translation="install"> | 15:16 |
| mgross029 | Then does some registry entires... | 15:17 |
| mgross029 | - <characteristic type="AudioPara3_TP2Max.csv" translation="install"> <parm name="AttenuationCategory" value="1" datatype="integer" /> <parm name="InitVol" value="7" datatype="integer" /> | 15:18 |
| mgross029 | - <characteristic type="HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev"> <parm name="AcousticFile" value="\Windows\AudioPara3_TP2Max.csv" datatype="string" /> | 15:18 |
| emwe | ok, so it is an adjusted AudioPara3.csv it seems then which is then set in the registry to be picked up over the old one it seems. | 15:20 |
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| emwe | if you like, share the csv from the cab somewhere. or mail. | 15:21 |
| emwe | not that i can do sth with it. ;) | 15:21 |
| emwe | i can compare to the stock one. | 15:21 |
| mgross029 | Here is a paste bin of the xml of the second cab http://pastebin.com/Q5ztZ2t0 | 15:22 |
| mgross029 | I can pull the CSV file from the WM side of my phone... Anywhere in particular you prefer me to send or post them? | 15:25 |
| emwe | mgross029: nah, i meant csv :) | 15:25 |
| emwe | mgross029: mweirauch _at_ xdandroid _dotttt_ com | 15:25 |
| emwe | mgross029: should be in /windows/ | 15:25 |
| mgross029 | Ok... will send them there... | 15:26 |
| mgross029 | Yep... Pulled them before... :) | 15:26 |
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| mgross029 | emwe, I sent all of the csv files over to you... | 15:41 |
| emwe | mgross029: cool, thanks. so audio has improved in wince and android for you? | 15:42 |
| mgross029 | emwe, yes... Although since audio routing to BT works for me... I have no need for WM anymore... LOL... | 15:44 |
| emwe | :) | 15:45 |
| emwe | ah, another Michael. welcome on board. | 15:45 |
| mgross029 | thx... | 15:46 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: if you are bored, give the recent .35 autobuild a try and just let me know how much it sucks compared to .27. (io)speedwise, usability. | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol bored? | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | i'm so slammed at work right now man... | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | so you think it'll be worse than .27 on io? why? | 15:48 |
| emwe | dunno. i don't have any froyo to compare to. just interessted. | 15:49 |
| emwe | but really, no biggi if you are not bored. | 15:49 |
| mgross029 | emwe, I threw the 9/12 .35 into a build earlier today and it blew up... Couldn't even boot into Android... | 15:49 |
| emwe | it needs acoustic userland. | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:50 |
| emwe | the "old" one so to speak | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i might be bored later today. | 15:50 |
| emwe | not the latest alex' libs. | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | but work is insane right now... | 15:50 |
| emwe | yah, work always has precedence. lol. | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | unfortunately. | 15:51 |
| emwe | Detule: you got some "random usage" latencytop dump of yours around? | 15:53 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, how's that new call center going? | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i'm slammed with :P | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | proof of concept group is in | 15:54 |
| Detule | emwe, random usage? | 15:54 |
| emwe | Detule: well, install, or deinstall an app, start apps, sth like that :) | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | but now we have to ensure that every point of proof is checked... fun times. | 15:55 |
| mgross029 | Ahh... Fun... I've done some Disaster Recovery planning/testing for Call Centers before... IVR testing was always a fun thing... :) | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | we haven't even gotten to the IVR stage yet | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | we need to tho. | 15:56 |
| Detule | emwe, i can get them if you mail me that binary i sent oyu, my latencytop binary is different it outputs live statistics rather than scrolling output | 15:56 |
| emwe | oh, that livestats would be more handy for me too, i think. :) | 15:57 |
| emwe | Detule: http://pastebin.com/nVvik3V6 | 15:58 |
| emwe | sync_page and jbd2(ext4 related) are quite painful | 15:58 |
| emwe | well, anything up there it seems | 15:58 |
| mgross029 | Wow! really...? My last job at a bank we had several call centers with redundant IVRs... | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, well we have 2 IVR's for the existing call center | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | but there are many pieces to this call center. there's several groups on it. | 15:59 |
| mgross029 | Understood... Well good luck with getting them up to speed... :p | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | thanks | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | so far so good | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | we have a pretty good vendor too | 15:59 |
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| emwe | Detule: if you find some time in the future, just send me that other binary without scrolling output. | 16:00 |
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| Detule | emwe, it's a debian binary, you need to get that chroot installed | 16:01 |
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| emwe | Detule: ah that stuff again. i always forget. sorry. | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | so, good vaca emwe ? | 16:02 |
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