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| emwe | hyc: moinsmoins. guess if the rhod survived the night ;) i have no idea what might have fixed it, but it seems to something did. don't wanna call it a day yet, but i have a good feeling. thanks anyway for your great work. | 01:43 |
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| hyc | okeydoke. dunno why it would make such a big difference | 02:30 |
| hyc | i mean, i know the bug caused problems for me, but only when i let a call go unanswered | 02:31 |
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| emwe | hyc: yeah. been running 2011-07-06 before and that's been your only change... who knows. | 02:57 |
| emwe | hyc: btw, do you think it's a good current behaviour, that when in auto-bl mode userland never ever disables keyboard and button lights after a idle timeout? | 02:58 |
| emwe | in non-auto mode it disables both after some short time of inactivity. | 02:58 |
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| hyc | I consider auto mode broken | 03:45 |
| hyc | I made some patches for that, but I don't recall if I requested a merge on that | 03:46 |
| hyc | getting it to actually work right requires a working light sensor | 03:46 |
| hyc | on my patch I just tweaked it so kbd light follows manual behavior | 03:46 |
| emwe | yeah, your patch was pulled to froyo. pulled it to gb as well locally. | 04:26 |
| emwe | and right, we need a working light sensor. | 04:26 |
| emwe | and we should/must extend all kb and button brightness arrays to not contain zeroes at the last indexes. | 04:27 |
| emwe | unless there is working light sensor reporting, we could hack the autobrightnessvalues array to contain 0,0,0,1 and report at least "1" to userland from (fake) light sensor. | 04:28 |
| hyc | hm, if my patch was pulled in then you should not be seeing kbd light always on with auto-bl | 04:29 |
| hyc | kbd light should just fade on and fade off, same as for manual bl | 04:29 |
| emwe | hm. then i need to reverify on frx07 then | 04:29 |
| emwe | it stays on all the time in automode | 04:30 |
| emwe | that's the one patch i know about: http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/commit/4bc885ba07d7f3d201ff9b82c24193149c637f9c | 04:31 |
| emwe | i think there was some "google common, you can't be serious." dunno in what part of the tree that one was for.... | 04:31 |
| emwe | (and if it was related at all to backlight stuff) | 04:31 |
| hyc | hm, that sounds like the right patch | 04:31 |
| hyc | but interestingly enough, it's missing from my repo | 04:32 |
| hyc | ??? | 04:32 |
| emwe | hycdroid or that personal clone on gito? | 04:33 |
| hyc | clone on gito | 04:33 |
| hyc | hmmmmm where did it go... | 04:33 |
| emwe | hyc: https://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-frameworks_base/commit/4bc885ba07d7f3d201ff9b82c24193149c637f9c | 04:34 |
| hyc | strange it's not in my local repo | 04:35 |
| emwe | oh, what's this.... https://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-frameworks_base/commit/58a34149f1698f574300a2ef3673e1a5f7e381fc | 04:35 |
| hyc | yeah, that's what I was looking at here | 04:36 |
| hyc | but I think this particular patch is incomplete | 04:36 |
| hyc | I was in the middle of looking at the light sensor code when I wrote that | 04:36 |
| hyc | and then I stopped because I was sick of writing code for the .27 kernel | 04:37 |
| hyc | so I'm not entirely sure that that patch works as-is | 04:37 |
| emwe | [acl] is looking into LS right now. | 04:37 |
| emwe | i am making up my mind on how to handle the userland. | 04:38 |
| emwe | i dunno even if all our devices can report LS values. | 04:38 |
| emwe | if so, i'd have them always report 255 as the max and we change our autobrightness lumen tables to have 255 on the last index, extend the button and keyboard backlight tables with correct steppings from 25->255 (or whatever) and be done with it. | 04:39 |
| hyc | sounds fine to me | 04:39 |
| emwe | we can do the <whatever-value-from-kernel>-mapping in libsensors and make sure we only report ranges from 0-255 to userland | 04:39 |
| hyc | Ah yes I remember now | 04:39 |
| hyc | I wanted to setup the variable brightness table for the keyboard, since the kernel supports it now | 04:40 |
| hyc | but I never got to that becuase the light sensor is missing | 04:40 |
| hyc | yeah, 0-255 is fine with me | 04:40 |
| emwe | well, there is code in froyo libsensors doing some magic. but i think it always reports 0 now, too like my fake lightsensor in GB does. | 04:41 |
| emwe | we can hack them to report 255 until LS reporting from kernel is working out. | 04:41 |
| hyc | I really liked the idea of the kbd backlight staying off when ambient light is high | 04:41 |
| hyc | oh well | 04:41 |
| emwe | ah, so the kbd and button tables should be reverse you say? ;) | 04:42 |
| hyc | yes | 04:43 |
| emwe | heh. worth a try i'd say | 04:43 |
| emwe | will keep me busy for a while | 04:43 |
| emwe | i am trying to factor out a common led-handling code for .35 | 04:43 |
| emwe | that's gonna be hard | 04:43 |
| hyc | heh. anyway, the commit you linked to, Friday May 20, is gone from my local repo | 04:43 |
| emwe | microp-klt+ksc is a mess | 04:43 |
| hyc | which I think means that I reverted/rebased it out of existence | 04:43 |
| emwe | ok | 04:44 |
| emwe | i can look at it nevertheless | 04:44 |
| hyc | probably because I thought I was getting the light sensor working :P | 04:44 |
| hyc | still, it worked as it was. dunno why it's not working in frx07. | 04:45 |
| hyc | hmmm. then again, my frx06+ build is running my repo as of May 27 | 04:45 |
| hyc | so it doesn't have that patch any more, and backlights work fine for me | 04:45 |
| emwe | that's quite some time. | 04:45 |
| emwe | we only have the latter patch | 04:46 |
| emwe | ehm, the one with the long comment :P | 04:46 |
| hyc | try a build with my May27 stuff instead | 04:46 |
| emwe | nah, i am just going to debug frx07 then if i figured some stuff for GB. | 04:47 |
| hyc | I know stinebd already wrote an equivalent readdir fix, so you don't need that | 04:47 |
| emwe | readdir fix? topic chnage? | 04:47 |
| hyc | https://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-frameworks_base | 04:47 |
| hyc | on May 27 I pushed a set of 3 commits at once | 04:47 |
| hyc | one was a readdir fix, you shouldn't need that one because frx07 already has an equivalent one | 04:48 |
| hyc | 58a34149 is the one you probably want | 04:48 |
| hyc | and revert the 4bc885ba patch | 04:48 |
| hyc | anyway I'm off to sleep, good luck | 04:58 |
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| smiley- | wooo | 05:53 |
| smiley- | the new xperia mini pro is out | 05:53 |
| emwe | don't get distracted :P | 06:10 |
| emwe | did we ever have charging indicator on XDAndroid? | 06:25 |
| emwe | implemented color led setting on .35 kernel via userland hooks and XDAndroid toggles orange/green dependant on charging state. | 06:26 |
| emwe | (on GB that is) | 06:26 |
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| emwe | ai... /proc/sys/vm/block_dump ....neato. | 07:10 |
| smiley- | emwe: already been to MediaMarkt but not until next week ;) | 07:17 |
| emwe | lol, you are german? ;) | 07:17 |
| smiley- | no they did open up here in sweden 5 years ago | 07:20 |
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| weihongcsu | Hello,I am trying to make bcm4329 work on HTC Touch Pro with xdandroid FRX05, but the bcm4329.ko always cannot be insmoded. According to the dmesg of Touch Pro2(with bcm4325), I think the clock rate not right,but I do not know how to set it. Could you do me a favor? Thank you very much! Here are the details: 1. # insmod /system/lib/modules/bcm4329.ko insmod: can't insert '/system/lib/modules/bcm4329.ko': invalid parameter//but | 08:51 |
| smiley- | why FRX05? | 09:06 |
| smiley- | there is FRX07 now | 09:07 |
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| smiley- | I think the battery driver needs to be tuned a bit | 09:54 |
| smiley- | correting max capacity to 1677 mAh | 09:54 |
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| emwe | i can't believe it that weihongscu is still trying to get a broadcom driver to work on a texax instruments device | 10:25 |
| emwe | dunno if he is the same as the guy on the ltg mailing list stating he has a raph800-similar device just with bcm chipset. can't believe that. | 10:26 |
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| smiley- | its strange i did leave the on last night in 7 hours it did conume aboubt half the battery | 10:40 |
| smiley- | and the phone was cold | 10:40 |
| smiley- | now its running hot again.. | 10:42 |
| smiley- | with almost 10 used | 10:42 |
| smiley- | also added the power collapse code to the panel.. seemes to work | 10:43 |
| smiley- | its visible that its turning back on with some garbage the first 300 ms or so | 10:43 |
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| smiley- | hmm.. when it's on USB charging the phone is cold | 11:29 |
| smiley- | when it's not charging it runs a bit hot | 11:29 |
| smiley- | anyone that one to take care of my son and wife for a week so I can hack and fix this? ;) | 11:29 |
| smiley- | s/one// | 11:30 |
| smiley- | s/one/want/ | 11:30 |
| smiley- | can't type | 11:30 |
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| arrrghhh | i heard tv takes care of children nicely | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | as far as wives go... not sure anyone's figured that out | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | hyc: do you have those libs hosted somewheres for video encoding/decoding? not sure why they missed FRX07.. | 11:57 |
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| arrrghhh | fawk | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get connectbot to not crash | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | ro.secure be damned | 12:06 |
| rpierce99 | get logs from the crash, lets see if we can fix it | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | eh i guess that would work :P | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec, break time | 12:10 |
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| arrrghhh | shit, phone seems to go into SoD if i let the screen timeout at all... | 12:13 |
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| rpierce99 | if it's as slow to respond as you say it is, you may need to hold down buttons to simulate a "press" | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea it goes in fits | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | it'll work quickly for a few seconds | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | then a few minutes of... pretty much nothing | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | then a few seconds of functionality. it's fun. | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | i think the RIL is just hammering shit into oblivion. | 12:16 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: got this http://pastebin.com/PB04QvhS | 12:18 |
| SpecR | maybe is of use | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | did you not read what i told you yesterday? | 12:19 |
| SpecR | nop, wasnt here | 12:19 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: what you said_ | 12:19 |
| SpecR | ? | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | "arrrghhhand SpecR - that pastebin couldn't be more useless." | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | you were here | 12:19 |
| SpecR | aight | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | you were signed in at least | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | what would be useful | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | the output from ls /dev | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | do you have ADB on your 800? | 12:20 |
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| SpecR | yes | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | gawd | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | then do this shite for me :P | 12:20 |
| SpecR | but not here (office), at home | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | gimmie the output of... ah shite | 12:20 |
| SpecR | ok | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | i'll keep trying while i'm in training today | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get adb working on this 800 for the life of me. doesn't show in the notification bar or anything | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | this raph is cursed | 12:21 |
| rpierce99 | is adbd running? | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | i can't really tell | 12:23 |
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| arrrghhh | no terminal | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:23 |
| rpierce99 | getlogs has ps in it | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | if i just need to see if smd7 exists | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | i can do this with frx06 | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have to be on ril2 | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | 1267 2000 3324 S /sbin/adbd | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say it's running :/ | 12:30 |
| rpierce99 | not running as root, try adb root from your pc | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | adb root... | 12:31 |
| rpierce99 | root is a parameter to the adb command, like shell | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | fancy | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | haven't used that one before | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if i can install things on this pc... heh | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | seeems "yes" | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | wth, didn't even offer to install anything when the phone was booting... | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | SpecR: do you have to do anything silly like boot with USB cable plugged in? | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | (to get adb working) | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | meh, not surprised | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | if the device isn't thar, adb root won't work | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99: if adb devices doesn't work, something's very wrong. | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | hyc: poop | 13:14 |
| hyc | still no usb huh | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | on this 800 i have smd0,1,27&7 | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | but i went back to 06 and it works fine, so i'm able to use connectbot now | 13:14 |
| hyc | you have smd7 ? ok that throws that out | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | hence, poop | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 13:14 |
| hyc | Hahah. my commit f5ab2645: GSM init still applies to RHOD400/500 even if not used | 13:16 |
| hyc | Need feedback on which commands are rejected by CDMA DIAM/RAPH | 13:16 |
| hyc | nobody ever provided feedback. That was April 15 | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | awesome. | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | sorry dude :/ | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully i can help with this service-less device.. | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | well, data-less | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | service works in that it connects to the towers | 13:18 |
| hyc | can you read /sys/class/htc_hw/radio ? | 13:20 |
| hyc | does it say GSM or CDMA ? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | i'm on 06 w/ the ancient RIL tho keep in mind... | 13:23 |
| hyc | ok. I removed the code that reads that file, but looks like need to add it back | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | lunchtime, bbl | 13:23 |
| hyc | no time right now, need to head out | 13:23 |
| hyc | heh. new ril2-test.zip on my home page | 13:32 |
| hyc | should do correct CDMA detection again | 13:32 |
| hyc | I'm outtahere | 13:32 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc: lol thx | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | gonna try FRX07 with this new RIL bind mounted & hope. | 14:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I can maybe finally help with some testing today if you need. on RHOD 400. Though I have poor signal where I am so I'm not sure if you'll get good logs from me. | 14:18 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'm a bit out of date on testing procedures for you guys though. I'm running basic FRX07 w/ latest kernel & rootfs from autobuilders | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | what do we need tested on that device? | 14:19 |
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| arrrghhh | bootani seems smooth | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | good sign... | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | crap i forgot to boot with airplane mode on | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 14:21 |
| Xofrats | I still haven't figured out what Fn-L was on the rhod100-de layout | 14:22 |
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| arrrghhh_ | stupid webchat | 14:22 |
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| Xofrats | 0x92 produces something funky with Android | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | hyc: phone is freakin usuable again | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | which is great | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm in airplane mode, can't seem to get out of it... | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | let me see what i can turn up | 14:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | doesn't sound that useable.... | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: you don't know what it was before | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | s/what/how/ | 14:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | u must be playing with the experimental stuffs then I take it? | 14:24 |
| rpierce99 | wasn't it fairly usable in airplane mode before? | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99: no | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | it was in airplane mode yet still unusable. | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | but no airplane mode icon in the status bar | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not sure how real it is | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: no i'm not | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | unless you consider RAPH800 experimental | 14:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh | 14:25 |
| Xofrats | arrrghhh is an experiment... | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 14:25 |
| Xofrats | gone horribly wrong *duck* | 14:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | LOL! | 14:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | RUN! | 14:26 |
| Xofrats | I think they put chemical X | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | cat /sys/class/htc_hw/radio returns CDMA | 14:26 |
| Xofrats | btw arrgh, the diam ppl are wondering where /media went | 14:27 |
| Xofrats | in the frx07 package | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | Xofrats: why? what? eh? | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | it's gone | 14:27 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ugh...I need to sit down and look at the audio routing stuff. phone sounds horrible as it is, and first call I made went to speakerphone...for no good reason | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | in the system image | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | connectbot works now | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 14:27 |
| rpierce99 | ril broke connectbot? nice | 14:27 |
| Xofrats | GSM | 14:27 |
| Xofrats | Hmm, mine thinks itKs gsm... | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | baseband version is unknown... | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 14:28 |
| * Xofrats beats the ril like a redheaded stepchild | 14:28 | |
| arrrghhh | well i'm not sure where to go with this | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll just wait for hyc to return :P | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | so no svc, but the phone is actually functional again. kudo | 14:29 |
| Xofrats | BTW, I tweaked lowmemorykiller a bit | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | s* | 14:29 |
| rpierce99 | get logs so he can maybe get you out of airplane mode? haha | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | Xofrats: in init.rc? | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | did it help? | 14:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | odd, my RHOD400 /sys/class/htc_hw/radio returns GSM.... | 14:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, looks like I may need that ril2-test to get proper CDMA detection? | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | mine does too, i'm guessing because the radio is capable of GSM? | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: no | 14:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | quit overthinking shit | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | RHOD400 doesn't really have any outstanding issue | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | s* | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | other than the normal crap | 14:31 |
| Xofrats | sed -i "s%minfree 1536,2048,4096,5120,5632,6144%minfree 1536,3072,8192,10240,12288,20480%" /init.rc | 14:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | except crappy audio | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | well | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | all devices have bad audio routing | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | we know that | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | we know why that is | 14:31 |
| Xofrats | Basically doubled nonfg, and 3x'ed real background | 14:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I don't remember FRX06+ being all fuzzy though | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: i hate you. | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | Xofrats: did it help...? | 14:32 |
| Xofrats | Shame init.rc completely ignores what's in getprop | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I take it the extra audio funness didn't get baked in to FRX07 | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: no | 14:33 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Awww... I hate you too arrrghhh | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:33 |
| NeoMatrixJR | :) | 14:33 |
| Xofrats | Perhaps, but it could be placebo | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: seriously dude wtf | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | Xofrats: hum | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | i want to tweak that crap too | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | see if it helps | 14:33 |
| Xofrats | You can tweak at runtime | 14:33 |
| Xofrats | Since it's sysfs | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | between iowait on the sd card and running out of RAM are probably the main reasons the phone gets crazy slow. | 14:33 |
| Xofrats | Why isn't the sdcard driver running at 50mhz anyway | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 14:34 |
| Xofrats | I thought that was well within the sd specs | 14:34 |
| Xofrats | if we can force it to 50 that alone should improve mmcq by quite abit | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried? | 14:35 |
| Xofrats | I don't see anything obvious I can tweak from at runtime | 14:36 |
| Xofrats | I just go by what msm_sdcc spits out on dmesg | 14:36 |
| Xofrats | btw I'm alot happeier with the 3.0.27 vending | 14:37 |
| Xofrats | less spinning android of death | 14:37 |
| Xofrats | Unlike pretty much every time with the builtin | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 14:39 |
| Xofrats | MemTotal: 175196 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | MemFree: 3460 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | Buffers: 576 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | Cached: 39172 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | SwapCached: 8736 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | Active: 135540 kB | 14:41 |
| Xofrats | That's how it looks on mine right now with the minfree tweak | 14:41 |
| rpierce99 | haven't upgraded my market, is it super simple now? | 14:42 |
| Xofrats | Go to my post on xda | 14:42 |
| Xofrats | Basically, wipe data, ,ache, remount, overwrite, remount, boom | 14:42 |
| Xofrats | Oh and I ended up nuking Maps completely, the 5.0 does waaaay too much stuff in the background | 14:44 |
| Xofrats | 10002 1560 1.7 15.2 199876 26732 ? Sl 13:59 0:50 android.process.acore | 14:45 |
| Xofrats | 10061 2171 3.8 14.4 181252 25360 ? Sl 14:08 1:26 com.opera.mini.android | 14:45 |
| Xofrats | 10066 2295 7.3 7.5 162528 13240 ? Sl 14:13 2:22 jackpal.androidterm | 14:45 |
| Xofrats | 1000 1468 8.5 16.2 248052 28412 ? Sl 13:58 4:00 system_server | 14:45 |
| Xofrats | root 54 10.4 0.0 0 0 ? D 13:57 4:59 [mmcqd] | 14:45 |
| Xofrats | 5min spent on mmcqd.... | 14:46 |
| Detule | Xofrats: how's that meminfo output supposed to differ from the non_tweaked version | 14:49 |
| Xofrats | It should have alot more cached (by linux) than normal | 14:50 |
| Detule | my cached stands at 62700 | 14:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | check out this post about mmc/sd speeds. maybe one of you guys can do something with it: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=24508&postcount=5 | 14:51 |
| rpierce99 | i've noticed maps/latitude all over in my top output lately | 14:51 |
| Xofrats | But then again, I am running bash x2 and epic5 on it | 14:51 |
| Xofrats | Yeah, 5.0 gmm is being evil now | 14:51 |
| Xofrats | Time to set the evil bit | 14:51 |
| Xofrats | ps in debian is nice, shows alot more info and can sort through stuff | 14:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | maybe check this out too: http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg35748.html | 14:53 |
| Xofrats | But as I said, since it's sysfs you could tweak it and see if stuff changes, values are in pages (apparently 4kb each) | 14:57 |
| Xofrats | I think part of the issue is we're relying on somewhat unstable msm_sdcc to do stuff | 15:00 |
| Xofrats | Apparently newer msm doesn't even support dma for the sdcc anymore | 15:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, this might be a REALLY dumb question, but does the hardware in the RHOD *support* (not have slots for) 2 sd cards? dmesg | mmc shows mmc0 (empty) and mmc1 (loaded)\ | 15:13 |
| Xofrats | wifi is a sdio | 15:14 |
| Xofrats | mmc0 is wifi, mmc1 is the microsdhc slot | 15:14 |
| Xofrats | I'd be willing to try a test kernel with msmsdcc_fmax set higher | 15:19 |
| Xofrats | If someone wants to compile one | 15:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | looks like you can set msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=<maxfreq in Hz) in your startup.txt | 15:20 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I don't think it's a freq problem though | 15:20 |
| NeoMatrixJR | seeing a lot of mentions about needing multi-block write support...? | 15:21 |
| Xofrats | They are talking about omap, which this isn't though | 15:30 |
| Xofrats | OK, rebooting with that, see if it works | 15:35 |
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| smiley- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbd_urFh81U | 15:36 |
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| Xofrats | Okay, it seems much happier | 15:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | what about downloading market apps? that always seemed to kill mine | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=680000 physkeyboard=custom msmsdcc_fmax=48000000 | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | [ 3.784515] mmc0: MMC clock 144000 -> 48000000 Hz, PCLK 64000000 Hz | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | [ 4.124786] mmc1: MMC clock 144000 -> 48000000 Hz, PCLK 64000000 Hz | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | [ 5.875152] clock-wince: pc_clk_set_rate: id=21 rate=48000000 | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | [ 95.636749] clock-wince: pc_clk_set_rate: id=19 rate=48000000 | 15:44 |
| Xofrats | 1000 1468 8.9 15.4 242916 27096 ? Sl 15:39 0:46 system_server | 15:48 |
| Xofrats | 10004 1936 12.5 18.2 199940 31960 ? Sl 15:42 0:48 com.android.vending | 15:48 |
| Xofrats | root 54 14.9 0.0 0 0 ? D 15:38 1:25 [mmcqd] | 15:48 |
| Xofrats | Gonna install pandora now | 15:48 |
| Xofrats | 10004 1936 11.4 20.1 204800 35340 ? Sl 15:42 1:05 com.android.vending | 15:52 |
| Xofrats | 1000 1468 9.9 24.7 284292 43416 ? Sl 15:39 1:09 system_server | 15:52 |
| Xofrats | root 54 16.8 0.0 0 0 ? D 15:38 2:07 [mmcqd] | 15:52 |
| Xofrats | Still a bit of slowdown | 15:52 |
| Xofrats | At least mmcqd and system_server isn't peaking together | 15:53 |
| Xofrats | And nothing in dmesg so far, melikes | 15:54 |
| Xofrats | BRB, gonna oc to ~700mhz now | 15:55 |
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| hyc | arrrghhh: got new logs? | 16:15 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc yup | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | i've got a long and a short | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec | 16:16 |
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| arrrghhh | still in training, but i'm so far ahead in these labs it's not even funny. | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | ok, it's a little funny i guess. | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | hyc: pm | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:17 |
| Xofrats | Whee, overclocked cpu and sdcc | 16:18 |
| Xofrats | (well, at least compared to stock) | 16:18 |
| rpierce99 | the new market found 8 apps that needed updated that the previous market didn't tell me about, hmmm | 16:21 |
| rpierce99 | btw there's a slave leia fathead on slickdeals right now :P | 16:22 |
| Xofrats | slave leia? | 16:22 |
| rpierce99 | i spelled that wrong probably, from star wars | 16:22 |
| rpierce99 | btw, 1.6x as fast, or .6x faster, not 1.6x faster | 16:24 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc: how's it lookin | 16:38 |
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| Xofrats | I wonder if setting the sdcc clk higher would reduce the class10 barfs | 16:47 |
| * Xofrats has found that even a class4 usually has no prob writing ~10mb/s | 16:47 | |
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| arrrghhh | hyc: did you get the logs...? | 17:49 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh hasn't been watching the wiki | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | what did i do | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | or not do...? | 17:52 |
| stinebd | not you | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:52 |
| stinebd | had a rare spambot get by | 17:52 |
| stinebd | possibly not automated | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:52 |
| stinebd | another day, another power of two loss in the dji | 17:55 |
| stinebd | how's life arrrghhh | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 19:00 |
| stinebd | i saw that you blocked me on google+ | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | training for this new call center is maddening | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | i blocked you? lolno | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | you're still in mah circles | 19:01 |
| stinebd | neat | 19:01 |
| stinebd | so uh | 19:02 |
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| hyc | new ril2-test.zip uploaded, should not segv now | 19:31 |
| hyc | (for arrrghhh) | 19:31 |
| hyc | (for any other user, it should brick your phone...) | 19:31 |
| Xofrats | the independent and... | 19:32 |
| Xofrats | Is it on the board or do we have to download it from somewhere? | 19:33 |
| rpierce99 | it's fixes for raph800, you probably don't want it | 19:36 |
| Xofrats | Let arrghh's device go boom | 19:39 |
| * Xofrats think it's quite idiotic that Android refuses to recognise ^H... | 19:39 | |
| Xofrats | They have a keycode_del, but no way to map it | 19:40 |
| Xofrats | They used ^I for tab, but not ^H.... | 19:41 |
| hyc | delete should be ASCII 127 | 19:47 |
| Xofrats | Hmm, what would FORWARD_DEL be then? | 19:48 |
| hyc | Ctrl-D | 19:49 |
| Xofrats | It didn't like ^D either | 19:50 |
| Xofrats | Which means no way to remap Fn-Backspace | 19:50 |
| Xofrats | I'm liking the new sdcc clock, wonder why it's left at 32mhz to begin with | 19:53 |
| hyc | does wifi still work? | 20:03 |
| Xofrats | Yes | 20:08 |
| Xofrats | And I don't see those crc errors anymore | 20:08 |
| Xofrats | [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=700000 physkeyboard=custom msmsdcc_fmax=48000000 | 20:17 |
| Xofrats | [ 3.950073] mmc0: MMC clock 144000 -> 48000000 Hz, PCLK 64000000 Hz | 20:17 |
| Xofrats | [ 4.296936] mmc1: MMC clock 144000 -> 48000000 Hz, PCLK 64000000 Hz | 20:17 |
| Xofrats | [ 5.772369] clock-wince: pc_clk_set_rate: id=21 rate=48000000 | 20:17 |
| Xofrats | [ 89.402618] clock-wince: pc_clk_set_rate: id=19 rate=48000000 | 20:17 |
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| Xofrats | I'd try running over spec, but I'd like to back up my files first | 20:20 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i saw your post. just got home... | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | do you want me to sort out commands from winmo or try this new ril? | 20:26 |
| stinebd | both | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:27 |
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| arrrghhh | touche. | 20:27 |
| stinebd | stupid atrix is stupid | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | stupid Moto is stupid | 20:27 |
| stinebd | wish these guys had docs | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i had boobs | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | well, bigger ones at least. | 20:28 |
| stinebd | or an irc channel that wasn't passworded | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | having the phone ring with a blank screen is maddening | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | i want to punch Phone.apk in the face. | 20:30 |
| hyc | try the ril and see if it still segv's | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol reboot within Android | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, tryin it now | 20:30 |
| hyc | ok | 20:31 |
| hyc | stinebd: read some reviews of the droid3, they said they hated its display, using that pentile subpixel matrix | 20:31 |
| hyc | I thought only Samsung's original AMOLEDs used that layout | 20:31 |
| hyc | oh, and they also hated the camera, it was going hyper on blue response | 20:31 |
| hyc | too bad. from the pix, it looks like Moto has nailed the perfect kbd layout | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | kb does look nice on that thing | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | 5-row | 20:32 |
| hyc | yep | 20:32 |
| hyc | too bad the rest of it is ... bleah | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:32 |
| stinebd | i guess i'm gonna have to build a kernel | 20:33 |
| stinebd | stock hangs boot, cm's reboots into recovery | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | zomg hyc | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | i haz service | 20:33 |
| hyc | yeah, those missing commands aren't crucial | 20:34 |
| hyc | just nice to have | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | k | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | i'll see what i can turn up | 20:35 |
| hyc | hm, is data working? I guess it doesn't care about NID/SID, dunno | 20:35 |
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| arrrghhh | sorry dude | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | i can't test data :/ | 20:36 |
| hyc | why? not subscribed? | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | sprint will transfer your service | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | this phone doesn't have service | 20:37 |
| hyc | heh ok | 20:37 |
| hyc | no biggie | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, that sounds like fun | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | if it was a SIM, no prob | 20:37 |
| hyc | we can get some other sucker^H^H^H^H^H^H tester to try it | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | if you tell them you want to do an ESN swap it's pretty easy, but if you don't want to actually help out... :P | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i know exactly how it works | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | it's easy, but takes forever. | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | and do they care how many times i swap? | 20:38 |
| rpierce99 | just giving you crap | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really feel like pushing my luck on this acct :P | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | no i'm serious. | 20:38 |
| rpierce99 | i've swapped one of my accounts 5 or 6 times | 20:39 |
| stinebd | he doesn't want to lose his sero discounts | 20:39 |
| rpierce99 | it's on the 3rd party emp plan, $15/mo | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i'm not on SERO | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | Total Advantage... | 20:39 |
| stinebd | same thing | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | SERO, you get your own account | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | and sign a contract | 20:39 |
| stinebd | don't bore me with your facts | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:39 |
| hyc | ok, patches pushed and new binary uploaded to xda forum | 20:41 |
| hyc | I suppose it really needs to be posted in a raph forum tho huh | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | i can take care of that dude | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | don't sweat it | 20:43 |
| hyc | cool | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | do you want to work thru the rest of these commands? | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | i have some gold here methinks | 20:43 |
| hyc | I think we can parse the version info out of the HTC_RSINFO reply | 20:43 |
| hyc | not entirely sure | 20:43 |
| hyc | what have you found? | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | RSINFO is one of 'em that appears to have baseband | 20:45 |
| hyc | yep | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | i have a bunch of HTC_DM's in my winmo log | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | there appears to be different addresses tho, not sure... | 20:46 |
| hyc | ok. do you happen to know your NID/SID ? | 20:46 |
| hyc | yeah, plenty of addresses | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | no clue on NID/SID | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | have you seen this winmo radio log? | 20:46 |
| hyc | from your rhod400 | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | no from the 800 | 20:46 |
| hyc | no, have you got your NID/SID from your rhod? | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh NID/SID on the 400? i'm not sure, but i bet you could tell me how to find it :P | 20:47 |
| hyc | you could check your radiolog for that HTC_DM command | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 20:47 |
| hyc | it will get logged "Hex SID/NID: " | 20:47 |
| stinebd | atrix bricked | 20:47 |
| hyc | your raph is a native Sprint phone? | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 20:48 |
| stinebd | thank the gods i haves the fastboot | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, it's sprint branded, that's for sure. | 20:48 |
| hyc | ok, then the SID ought to be close | 20:48 |
| hyc | then you'd need to find a similar value in the raph log | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | now i look for a similar SID/NID from the 800's winmo radio log...? | 20:51 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:51 |
| hyc | and possibly it just isn't there | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not finding it... | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | here's something that's *close* (i think) | 20:55 |
| stinebd | the suspense is killing me | 20:58 |
| hyc | naw, I think it's just not there | 21:00 |
| stinebd | we traced the call and it's coming from INSIDE THE RADIO?! | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | spooky | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, did hyc's radio options get slipped in? | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037075 | 21:05 |
| hyc | just run the command and see if it works or gives an error | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh, np | 21:05 |
| * arrrghhh slaps arrrghhh with a wet trout | 21:06 | |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: did the who get what? | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | not sure | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'll let you know when i know | 21:24 |
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| hyc | looks like it's hung trying to setup the data call | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea, since data doesn't work maybe that's causing a problem? i haven't disabled it lol | 21:28 |
| hyc | better disable it | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | done | 21:28 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, thanks again man. thread posted & caveat list updated :D | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | goin for that patch now | 21:53 |
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| Xofrats | arrghh: You know you could most likely have that raph on boost | 22:24 |
| Xofrats | Very cheap way of testing data | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | why would i pay anything to test data | 22:27 |
| Xofrats | *shrug* | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | i think you underestimate how cheap i really am | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | i think an ESN swap would be easier. and free. but i'm not really keen on going thru that. | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | users who want it, can report if there's issues. | 22:28 |
| Xofrats | well, online swap is mostly foolproof | 22:29 |
| Xofrats | As long as you check that it doesn't try to drop soc or change your plan | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i can't do that | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think... | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | did you not read about how it's not really my account? :P | 22:29 |
| Xofrats | Sure you can | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | my name is on the account, but i don't own the 'master account' | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 22:30 |
| Xofrats | You can have the person delegate your linr | 22:30 |
| Xofrats | line | 22:30 |
| Xofrats | Just for online that is | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure you're grasping the issue here... but either way, i don't want to do it. even if i had a regular consumer account. | 22:31 |
| Xofrats | I've always found it useful to have a second "unlimited" device over Sprint's network | 22:32 |
| Xofrats | But I kind of screwed up and lost that line | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | my device is unlimited | 22:33 |
| stinebd | just switch the sim out OH WAIT | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea, been there. | 22:33 |
| stinebd | how's your precious cdma now, smart guy? | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | so in the years that i've had CDMA | 22:34 |
| Xofrats | At least we aren't ma bell... err, at&t | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | this one time, in testing an ancient device, it would be convenient to have a SIM. | 22:34 |
| Xofrats | "let's throttle the top 5%" | 22:34 |
| Xofrats | I like my Sero and I liked having a second device that I could google map/whatever so I could do stuff without killing the main's battery | 22:35 |
| rpierce99 | i just use a car charger, but to each their own man | 22:36 |
| Xofrats | I don't have a car | 22:36 |
| stinebd | i like having phones i can take to other countries and still use | 22:36 |
| Xofrats | Oh the tp2 is world capable ^^); | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, RHOD400 FTW | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:36 |
| stinebd | rhod can hardly be defined as usable | 22:36 |
| stinebd | even in america | 22:36 |
| Xofrats | why? | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:37 |
| stinebd | Xofrats: go try a recent phone | 22:37 |
| Xofrats | Like what? | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | he has an epic stinebd | 22:37 |
| Xofrats | Yeah, epic running gingerbread | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | Galaxy S w/a kbd | 22:37 |
| Xofrats | Othe r | 22:37 |
| stinebd | then you know why | 22:37 |
| stinebd | stop trolling | 22:37 |
| Xofrats | Other than the subpar battery, really nice pbhone | 22:38 |
| Xofrats | KB had some issues but fixed that with some .kl/kcm patching | 22:38 |
| stinebd | i've become decidedly anti-keyboard | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | I <3 the RHOD kbd. | 22:39 |
| stinebd | it's good | 22:39 |
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| stinebd | however, they don't make them good anymore | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 22:39 |
| Xofrats | Rhod kb blows everything away | 22:39 |
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| stinebd | and it's not worth the space it takes up | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | i keep hoping *something* will come out that can rival it. i haven't used an arrive... | 22:39 |
| stinebd | i'd rather have a thin phone than a thick phone with a mediocre keyboard | 22:39 |
| Xofrats | Which is one reason I keep using the rhbod even without service | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, you're entitled to your own opinion. | 22:40 |
| stinebd | i seem to be in the majority | 22:40 |
| stinebd | so it's not really my own | 22:40 |
| * Xofrats smacks his b key | 22:40 | |
| arrrghhh | yea, i'm not sure why people prefer that | 22:40 |
| stinebd | realistically people prefer keyboards that aren't junk | 22:41 |
| stinebd | but companies decided to stop pursuing it | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'd much prefer a real kbd. | 22:41 |
| Xofrats | I also have a optimus | 22:41 |
| Xofrats | If I'm typing something, kb >>>>>>> softkey | 22:41 |
| rpierce99 | i'd trade my keyboard in for a slim phone, I don't type nearly often enough | 22:42 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: note i qualified my opinion, i'm anti-keyboard because the keyboards all suck, not because i'd rather use the screen | 22:42 |
| Xofrats | And thanks to amazone, got my choice of swype/swidtkey/flext9 | 22:42 |
| stinebd | this will all be moot when they introduce brainscan input | 22:42 |
| Xofrats | I don't want it sending everything I think quite honestly | 22:43 |
| stinebd | i don't think that's how it works | 22:43 |
| rpierce99 | after reading about how amazon is screwing over devs with their free app promo I'm hesitating on all the free apps | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | they're screwing devs with free appz?!? | 22:44 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: careful, expressing a negative opinion of the amazon app store is against the amazon app store tos | 22:44 |
| Xofrats | That's the devs decision... I also like that their appstore isn't quite picky about rooted/custom rom | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:44 |
| Xofrats | unlike el goog | 22:44 |
| rpierce99 | http://shiftyjelly.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/amazon-app-store-rotten-to-the-core/ | 22:44 |
| stinebd | picky about custom roms is a dev's decision in android market | 22:45 |
| stinebd | you're free to not filter them out | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i assumed devs wouldn't get paid for the free app day | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't know the opposite was portrayed publicly... | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | man, when the RIL isn't trying to pummel this RAPH into oblivion, it runs pretty well | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:59 |
| Xofrats | Well, I have that app, and I have yet to open it | 22:59 |
| Xofrats | they throw around that 100k number like it's set in stone | 23:00 |
| Xofrats | And yeah, it's a contract matter, settle it in tort court not in a blog post | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | legal issues have been solved outside of court via blogggering | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon now | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | power of then pen | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | or.. keyboard | 23:01 |
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| rpierce99 | i don't think they're even mad about that aspect of it, they knew they were getting screwed when they went into it, they did it for the lulz, I just don't feel like giving the amazon app store the business, not that i've ever actually purchased an app | 23:02 |
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| Xofrats | the only thing I bought was easytether | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | isn't that POS $10? | 23:03 |
| Xofrats | $5 when I bought it | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | still | 23:04 |
| rpierce99 | on the amzn store, where they set the price to whatever they damn well please? lol | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | that seems f-ed up | 23:05 |
| Xofrats | so does wallymart | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | well | 23:05 |
| Xofrats | It's just a lot less publicized | 23:05 |
| rpierce99 | but walmart buys them from you at a price you agreed to | 23:05 |
| Xofrats | no they don't | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | i would assume that devs set the prices of apps | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | and change it at will... | 23:05 |
| rpierce99 | not on amzn | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | without dev permission. | 23:06 |
| rpierce99 | wait huh | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | amazon determines the price outright?!? | 23:06 |
| rpierce99 | yes | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 23:06 |
| Xofrats | wallyworld tells you you need to cut your price by x% or they will no longer buy from you | 23:06 |
| Xofrats | That's each year every year | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | well if that's how the contract crumbles... | 23:07 |
| Xofrats | If they had backend that couldn't handle the load, then they needed to put in sensible limits or hire better programmers | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | not a single RAPH800/DIAM500 user has responded yet lol | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | definitely a popular device :P | 23:31 |
| Xofrats | which post | 23:31 |
| Xofrats | I'll post it on my diam how-to | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203301 | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | basically just a rundown on FRX07 blockers on that device | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | SMD_TTY is still a problem | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | without ADB, i'm fuxxored | 23:33 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: last indented paragraph here: http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/02/amazons-appstore-youll-make-0-when-we-give-your-app-away-and-youll-like-it/ | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | that last line is especially confusing | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | still seems to indicate you'll get 20% of list, even when sold for free. | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | and there is a 'list price' from the dev. | 23:35 |
| rpierce99 | that is a quote from their original article on the subject, which they now know was not true | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | even if they don't adhere to it... certainly not random.. | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. gonna go eat some dinar | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | got some good work done on the CDMA RAPH/DIAM's | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | thanks to hyc ofc :P | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if MMS will now work for 'em | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | along with netloc, and obviously data... | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. cya guys | 23:37 |
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| Xofrats | I posted onto the diam forum | 23:43 |
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