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| hyc | something's fishy with FRX07 signal loss. nobody reported problems like that with hacked FRX06 + new ril | 01:52 |
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| hyc | heck, even arrrghhh has been running the FRX06+ stuff for a long time with no reports of that, but now with FRX07 it's happening? | 01:53 |
| hyc | makes no sense | 01:53 |
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| emwe | hyc: heyho. yeah, i got two "wake SODs" twice in a row this morning. | 04:19 |
| emwe | i got better with the correct RIL in place on gb, but something is fishy. | 04:19 |
| emwe | i don't wanna say it's RIL+smd related right now... as i got JIT and JIT_TUNING enabled... | 04:19 |
| emwe | been running with JIT for a week already and enabled JIT_TUNING two days ago. no userland issues. | 04:20 |
| emwe | hyc: you know of some kernel malloc tuning options? | 04:20 |
| santhu | gps code not working in android | 04:22 |
| santhu | can i get some help | 04:22 |
| santhu | ? | 04:22 |
| phh | define not working ? | 04:26 |
| emwe | phh: i heard arrrghhh telling leo guys got xtra working. will yet have to be directed to their code and how they did it... | 04:37 |
| phh | perhaps they used loc_api | 04:37 |
| phh | if they got it to work with their previous code, it's good for us :D | 04:37 |
| hyc | emwe: kernel malloc tuning, no idea | 04:43 |
| hyc | I took a look at the Leo git repo | 04:44 |
| hyc | really no idea how much of it is usable, it all depends on AMSS implementing the same RPCs | 04:44 |
| hyc | The last time I tried to use their rmnet stuff I of course got nowhere since that's all absent from our AMSS | 04:45 |
| hyc | https://github.com/tytung/android_hardware_leo_libgps | 04:46 |
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100114 | 04:46 |
| emwe | hmhm, they got smd27 and rpc stuff according to that forum. | 04:50 |
| emwe | hyc: are you going to look into this? at least it souns like that... | 04:50 |
| hyc | also I'm not sure why that thread claims "AGPS Development is finished" - look at the code, several of the agps functions are null stubs | 04:51 |
| hyc | Unfortunately no, I don't have time to get into it right now. Working on another project that I have to present at a conference in October | 04:51 |
| hyc | and it's barely off the ground | 04:51 |
| emwe | hyc: i locally started pulling my gps stuff from gb to froyo. haven't given it a try, but i'd like to keep the code "similar" | 04:52 |
| emwe | ok, i see | 04:52 |
| emwe | i think there's more pressing issues then xtra. apart from the fact, i dunno all the details : ) | 04:52 |
| hyc | heh | 04:52 |
| emwe | btw, you had been reporting still one issue with SMD_DATA1 wakelock? do i remember that from the irclogs correctly? | 04:53 |
| hyc | wakelock? | 04:54 |
| hyc | I don't remember which you're referring to | 04:54 |
| emwe | then i must have misread it. | 04:56 |
| emwe | two days ago or so you said, there might be one issue left regarding smd. | 04:56 |
| emwe | can't renarate(?) what it was exactly :) | 04:56 |
| hyc | heh. honestly can't remember anything like that. | 04:57 |
| hyc | but apparently raph800 and some others are having smd_tty blow up on them | 04:57 |
| hyc | I was thinking we should build a test kernel using jonpry's original patch, before I modified it | 04:58 |
| phh | hyc: they used our code as base for their gps | 04:58 |
| phh | changes where minor | 04:58 |
| hyc | phh: that sounds like good news then | 04:58 |
| phh | you can't use it as is though | 04:58 |
| hyc | heh, no surprise | 04:59 |
| smiley- | emwe: I had my first kernel panic in over a month yesterday | 04:59 |
| smiley- | https://gist.github.com/1097138 | 04:59 |
| hyc | I recall in my various googling, I found a patched repo that ignores the RPC versions, so a single piece of code will work against multiple AMSS versions | 05:00 |
| hyc | or somesuch | 05:00 |
| phh | meeh | 05:00 |
| phh | that doesn't look like my code at all | 05:00 |
| phh | https://github.com/tytung/android_hardware_leo_libgps/commit/be0b0942aee89eb6f5bdb97fbfe8e28b86e968ee that's were they got off :/ | 05:03 |
| smiley- | I wish I had more C knowledge.. I'm all posioned by java ;) | 05:03 |
| hyc | wishing doesn't do much | 05:04 |
| hyc | If you want more knowledge, you go get it. | 05:04 |
| smiley- | ok.. I wish I didn't have a family keeping me from playing with C all the day! better? ;) | 05:04 |
| hyc | dunno. I act on my wishes. Not sure I could get rid of my family, in your position :P | 05:05 |
| hyc | hm first crash in over a month. null pointer. kind of implies running a read operation on an SMD channel that's gone. | 05:07 |
| hyc | but the log shows the channel is being opened, not anywhere being closed. | 05:07 |
| smiley- | it crashed when I did move the computer togheter with the phone about 3m away ;) | 05:08 |
| smiley- | it was plugged in charging | 05:08 |
| hyc | well, there are two USB status changes right ahead of that | 05:11 |
| hyc | perhaps the cable got disturbed | 05:11 |
| hyc | dunno. that's 13 seconds earlier, shouldn't have an effect | 05:11 |
| hyc | smd_close(7) 10 seconds earlier | 05:12 |
| hyc | so connection was lost and then attempted to re-establish again | 05:12 |
| hyc | would have been good to have logcats from this too. both main and radio. | 05:12 |
| smiley- | yeah.. I unplugged the power cable from the computer when moving it | 05:13 |
| hyc | but I guess they're gone | 05:13 |
| smiley- | yeah they are :( | 05:13 |
| hyc | too bad. it seems a little bit strange to me that it would get a read request immediately after opening | 05:15 |
| smiley- | can I pull a logcat after a panic? | 05:15 |
| hyc | dunno, doubt it has been saved anywhere. | 05:15 |
| smiley- | I need a syslogd somewhere ;) | 05:16 |
| hyc | look at that timestamp, device open at 89431.265899, crash at .265960 | 05:16 |
| hyc | and typically .000030 seconds between consecutive log msgs | 05:16 |
| hyc | there's not enough time for it to have done any major commands yet | 05:17 |
| hyc | ohhh. | 05:18 |
| hyc | 265869 "kernel BUG at..." | 05:18 |
| hyc | there was a read in progress while it was opening. | 05:19 |
| hyc | that shouldn't be possible | 05:19 |
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| hyc | hmmm. perhaps we need to grab the smd_lock in smd_readx() | 05:30 |
| hyc | oddly enough, none of the reader functions grab the lock. huh? | 05:32 |
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| santhu | i am getting null from location when i am trying with gps | 05:47 |
| santhu | i ve taken locationlistne | 05:47 |
| santhu | but i am getting nul | 05:47 |
| santhu | can i get any help | 05:48 |
| smiley- | hyc: hmm.. atleast it's not occuring very often | 05:59 |
| smiley- | I sent a message on forum.xda to the guy that has done alot of work with the kovsky kernel (not alex) and asked if the source is available somewhere so it can be patched with the smd_tty patch.. but haven't got any response :( | 06:07 |
| Fudge | smiley- ask someone to dcc some my C knowledge to you | 06:11 |
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| emwe | santhu: if your agps data is out of date (not update in wince) it's likely that you need to wait a very long time to get a lock. also, if you are inside i building, getting a fix/lock is seriously making it worse. so if you got a chance, try getting a lock outside and be patient. | 06:20 |
| emwe | smiley-: oh, i dunno where i have seen that already. not on .35 iirc. | 06:20 |
| smiley- | emwe: no it's on frx07 with the bundled kernel | 06:21 |
| santhu | emwe what is out of date | 06:42 |
| santhu | ? | 06:44 |
| emwe | santhu: your AGPS data. there's a windows mobile which allows you to update that. it assists the gps chip finding satellites and getting a fix faster. | 06:51 |
| emwe | (windows mobile app i meant) | 06:51 |
| emwe | don't remember how it's called. | 06:51 |
| smiley- | is that data also used in android? | 06:52 |
| smiley- | QuickGPS or something | 06:52 |
| emwe | it's the general assumption that the chip is working with that data. so it stores it somewhere and uses it as long as it's valid. | 06:52 |
| smiley- | ok | 06:52 |
| smiley- | 7 days or something | 06:53 |
| emwe | likely in a little flash memory i think. know too little yet about that. | 06:53 |
| emwe | yap | 06:53 |
| emwe | when i did that gb gps stuff, i got usually fixes within seconds. but the longer it's not being used, the longer it takes to get a fix. especially inside buildings. | 06:53 |
| smiley- | yeah | 06:54 |
| smiley- | I wonder if I should go back to gb or not ;) | 06:54 |
| smiley- | been testing frx07 now and gb has been more stable for me | 06:55 |
| smiley- | but on the other hand frx07 isn't going to lag hell quite as often as gb does | 06:55 |
| emwe | you get that spontaneous lag with .27? | 06:57 |
| emwe | gb+.27 i mean | 06:57 |
| smiley- | gb+.27 yes | 06:57 |
| smiley- | but it's the SD-card | 06:58 |
| smiley- | io-wait killing it | 06:58 |
| emwe | i think so too. it's huge loop0 or loop1 + mmcqg | 06:58 |
| emwe | do you have some special tools detecting that? | 06:58 |
| emwe | iotop something? | 06:58 |
| smiley- | nope | 06:58 |
| emwe | top isn#t that spectacularly narative | 06:58 |
| emwe | i mostly get huge cpu spikes after resume ... | 06:59 |
| emwe | (seepu is quite helpful there) | 06:59 |
| smiley- | oh | 06:59 |
| smiley- | gonna try that one | 06:59 |
| smiley- | did just plug in the gb-sdcard | 07:00 |
| emwe | it's just a little tray app showing cpu+mem | 07:00 |
| emwe | just plug in? | 07:00 |
| smiley- | well.. rebooted with it ;) | 07:00 |
| emwe | ah sorry, read that as a question :) | 07:00 |
| emwe | are you building gb yourself? | 07:01 |
| smiley- | yeah | 07:01 |
| emwe | ok, might be you need to switch system/wlan/ti to the froyo branch i think | 07:01 |
| emwe | otehrwise the wlan0 isn#t gonna be around. not tested, as i got no wifi on .35 ;) | 07:01 |
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| smiley- | yeah.. I remember having problem with that.. I changed the dhcp-stuff in init | 07:03 |
| smiley- | if I remember correctly | 07:03 |
| smiley- | back in May when I did build it | 07:03 |
| emwe | will talk to bryan this evening if i can/shall/should/am allowed to get gb a bit up on par with frx07 | 07:04 |
| emwe | was freaking wasting two days figuring why i got sudden SOD again... rild was told to use the old ril from rootfs... | 07:04 |
| smiley- | also there is something strange with dns when booting gb | 07:05 |
| emwe | oh it is? dunno. ;) | 07:05 |
| smiley- | it gets the ip, the dns settings.. everything but everything gives hostnotfound exceptions | 07:05 |
| emwe | does it fix itself when home is up? | 07:05 |
| smiley- | nope.. switching wireless of and back on | 07:06 |
| smiley- | off | 07:06 |
| smiley- | then it solves itself | 07:06 |
| emwe | i only use mobile data. ;) | 07:06 |
| emwe | perhaps you can verify at least wifi wokring with building system/wlan/ti after switching to the froyo branch when building your gb | 07:06 |
| emwe | so bryan or i can get that rectified for gb. | 07:07 |
| smiley- | ok.. I will give that a try a bit later.. | 07:08 |
| smiley- | my girlfriend wants us to finish Portal 2 now while our son is sleeping ;) | 07:09 |
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| emwe | lol | 07:22 |
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| DoerOfThings | Is there a Touch Pro 2 Android Nand IRC? | 11:08 |
| rpierce99 | that's a little specific don't you think? there'd be like 2 people in there | 11:09 |
| DoerOfThings | True. Well then is there an Android Nand IRC | 11:10 |
| rpierce99 | well stock android phones run off nand, so i guess that would be #android ? | 11:10 |
| DoerOfThings | Ok thanks for the help. Not quite what I was looking for. | 11:11 |
| rpierce99 | what are you looking for | 11:11 |
| rpierce99 | other than an irc director | 11:11 |
| DoerOfThings | updates on the touch pro 2 android nand situation. just wondering what is going on with it. forums have been pretty silent | 11:12 |
| rpierce99 | that discussion would happen here or in #htc-linux depending on what is being discussed, but i think they took their convos to IM | 11:13 |
| DoerOfThings | thank you that is what i was looking for. many thanks | 11:14 |
| rpierce99 | [acl] just posted an updated to the nand thread on ppcg today though | 11:14 |
| rpierce99 | not so much an update, but a post! | 11:14 |
| DoerOfThings | it would be sweet if they could get nand working. i would love to run android natively | 11:16 |
| DoerOfThings | i have a touch pro 2 | 11:16 |
| rpierce99 | have any skill to help them out? | 11:16 |
| DoerOfThings | i know a little java but still trying to learn as much as i can about the code | 11:17 |
| DoerOfThings | i can look at code and understand what is going to an extent | 11:18 |
| rpierce99 | most of what they are doing is either cooking (linux, init, bash scripts, etc) or kernel | 11:18 |
| DoerOfThings | i have attempted cooking but never got anywhere. | 11:19 |
| f00bar80 | i have a xdandroid on a touch pro2, when i go Settings>wireless and netoworks>mobile networks>access point names, i found it empty and there's no way to set it, any comment ? | 11:21 |
| rpierce99 | cdma or gsm | 11:22 |
| DoerOfThings | menu>new apn | 11:22 |
| DoerOfThings | i am currently runing frx07 OC to 748 MHz very stable for me | 11:25 |
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| stinebd | rpierce99: cooking implies that we're mashing binaries together -- we're doing actual development | 11:42 |
| DoerOfThings | yeah i dont know anything about cooking so i wouldnt be any help | 11:47 |
| DoerOfThings | except for testing i am will to flash any test rom. i dont care if it bricks my phone | 11:48 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: the nand team is more trying to pull together pieces from xdandroid and nand builds to make something, right? not actual development | 11:49 |
| rpierce99 | except for kernel | 11:49 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not speaking of xdandroid itself when i say cooking | 11:50 |
| DoerOfThings | does anyone see the android nand build going anywhere or is it a lost cause | 11:53 |
| rpierce99 | it's slow because there's like one guy doing it, and he's doing it part part part time | 11:55 |
| DoerOfThings | i have wanted to help but he would have to teach me alot. i am only good at testing really. why isnt the community more focused on nand? | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | because until recently there were so many features that were completely broken for most to run it full time | 11:58 |
| DoerOfThings | i appologize for noob questions | 11:58 |
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| rpierce99 | frx07 switching cdma users to true cdma mode, and therefore fixing netloc, mms, etc is a giant step forward i think | 11:59 |
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| rpierce99 | and it has never worked properly for gsm users and no one has figured out why | 11:59 |
| rpierce99 | so those who did have a mostly complete build couldn't use nand anyways | 11:59 |
| DoerOfThings | that is a huge step and its far above nand | 11:59 |
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| DoerOfThings | its a shame i would love to run android natively. | 12:00 |
| rpierce99 | there's still the battery problem with nand, not recharging once the phone goes completely dead | 12:00 |
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| DoerOfThings | i have actually experienced that and its a huge pain to get it working again. had to flash back to windows mobile to get a charge just so i could flash back to nand build. not very effective | 12:02 |
| DoerOfThings | if by some miricle he does get it working i am definitely going to switch to it | 12:07 |
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| f00bar80 | how to open a root terminal from xdandroid | 13:22 |
| rpierce99 | from adb or connectbot? | 13:22 |
| f00bar80 | rpierce99, it's in settings or where | 13:22 |
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| rpierce99 | huh? | 13:24 |
| rpierce99 | i was asking which way you're trying to to do it | 13:24 |
| rpierce99 | i guess assuming you were already trying was my bad | 13:24 |
| rpierce99 | you either need to set up adb or install a terminal app | 13:24 |
| f00bar80 | rpierce99, can i find any on terminal app in market ? also what's root password for xdandroid ? | 13:25 |
| rpierce99 | you just type su | 13:25 |
| rpierce99 | most people use connectbot | 13:26 |
| f00bar80 | rpierce99, type it where, i'm on the home screen | 13:26 |
| Tandyman100 | into your terminal application | 13:26 |
| Tandyman100 | f00bar80, the first thing you need to do is download a terminal app. Try the market first. Once you have a terminal app working, open it and type "su" and you'll have root access. | 13:27 |
| f00bar80 | what's the difference between connectBot and ADB , i know ADB is the debugger isn't it ? | 13:28 |
| rpierce99 | connectbot runs on your phone, adb runs on your computer | 13:28 |
| Tandyman100 | adb is root on your phone, accessed through your... yeah. What rpierce99 said. | 13:29 |
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| f00bar80 | It's a really very n00bie question. The ring tone ring once, is there anywhere i can let to be more/continus | 13:45 |
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| f00bar80 | any comment ? | 14:02 |
| rpierce99 | is it a custom tone or the built in tones | 14:03 |
| f00bar80 | rpierce99, all of the builtin tones , ring once | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | FRX07? what device? | 14:04 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: dude we need to talk about the mms wiki | 14:05 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, FRX07_Full_Bundle_20110715 , touch pro 2 | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | talk | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, which RHOD? this doesn't happen on my 400... | 14:05 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, rhodium touch pro 2 by Tmobile | 14:05 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: it's misleading, US users will always use 310 00 even if their carrier says otherwise | 14:06 |
| rpierce99 | MCC is country code (310) | 14:06 |
| rpierce99 | MNC is network code, which we can't pull | 14:06 |
| rpierce99 | or don't | 14:06 |
| rpierce99 | not sure if we can't | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:07 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, any comment ? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea and that's populated already eh | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, you didn't answer my question, but i'd assume RHOD210 | 14:07 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, yea | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. have you updated at all? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | dunno why that would help | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | just makes me feel better | 14:08 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, what's a name of any default ringtone? | 14:09 |
| rpierce99 | chimey phone | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, was anything upgraded? | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | like did you start fresh with FRX07 or try to keep an old data.img for example? | 14:11 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, this one ring continuously .. why not the others | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | mine rings continuously | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i can't always answer it, but it rings continuously lol | 14:12 |
| rpierce99 | i think the audio file has to be constructed in a loop | 14:12 |
| rpierce99 | i thought i heard that somewhere | 14:12 |
| rpierce99 | so the stock ones should all work | 14:12 |
| rpierce99 | but custom ones often don't | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's... dumb. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | if true | 14:13 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, like i said, faint memory of some random hearsay | 14:13 |
| rpierce99 | nothing concrete | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:13 |
| DoerOfThings | arrrghhh QQ (quick question) about android nand. what is the latest? | 14:14 |
| rpierce99 | don't cry | 14:14 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, is there a working NAND for the t-mobile TP2? | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | DoerOfThings, the NAND threads have information | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, THE NAND THREADS HAVE INFORMATION | 14:15 |
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| Tandyman100 | :P | 14:15 |
| Tandyman100 | I know | 14:15 |
| Tandyman100 | I felt like annoying someone. | 14:15 |
| Tandyman100 | You were an easy target. | 14:15 |
| DoerOfThings | i have read all and wonder if there is any more news? | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 14:16 |
| DoerOfThings | i see that acl is going to attempt to port another rom to rhod. do you think that is going to work? | 14:17 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, I'm looking in the rhodium forums, and I've tried googling, but I can't find a NAND thread... | 14:18 |
| DoerOfThings | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/134598-nand-testing-05-25-update-new-lk-recovery-img-kernel-updates-through-recovery.html | 14:19 |
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| arrrghhh | lolol | 14:20 |
| Tandyman100 | Ah. PPCGeeks. | 14:20 |
| Tandyman100 | I was looking on XDA-Devs | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | there's a thread on xda-devs too | 14:20 |
| Tandyman100 | silly me. | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870081 | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | now what | 14:21 |
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| Tandyman100 | ah, thanks. | 14:23 |
| DoerOfThings | frx07 crash. probably due to OC | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | DoerOfThings, there's random chatter about what needs to be done on NAND "behind the scenes" if you will | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | but nothing tangible | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | stuff goes up on the threads if it's important, usually before i know about it. | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | the kernel really needs some lovin. it seems like they have the partitioning and layout stuff down. | 14:25 |
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| DoerOfThings | it would be nice to get nand workign | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | wait for the next build | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | they've made some userland progress | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | and i know acl is working on getting the kernel up to snuff | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | but it still seems like the kernel has a looooong way to go. | 14:27 |
| DoerOfThings | yeah its a shame there isnt more community support | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really appreciate unsolicited PM's, unless i know you. | 14:28 |
| Tandyman100 | The kernel needs some lovin'? So do I. We could go on a date. Does the kernel like chinese? | 14:28 |
| DoerOfThings | probably but it might like japenese more | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | stabstabstab | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | you just have to spend time with the kernel | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it really likes food :P | 14:29 |
| DoerOfThings | are you sure? | 14:29 |
| Tandyman100 | Then again, the kernel is on a lot of people's phones... | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | my computer gets mad when i spill things on it that are liquid | 14:30 |
| Tandyman100 | last thing I want is a slutty kernel. | 14:30 |
| DoerOfThings | true that does make things awkward | 14:30 |
| Tandyman100 | When Gentoo found out I was dual-booting with Debian, it was pretty pissed. | 14:30 |
| DoerOfThings | what did Gentoo find out? | 14:31 |
| DoerOfThings | how? | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100 - says a lot of things. very few of them useful. | 14:31 |
| DoerOfThings | but most of them funny | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's subjective | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | objective? | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. something. | 14:32 |
| DoerOfThings | oh its definitly something | 14:33 |
| Tandyman100 | subjective. | 14:33 |
| Tandyman100 | I usually try too hard. | 14:33 |
| DoerOfThings | frx07 and OC.... What are your thoughts | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | OC in general - not worth it. | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | it makes the phone lag faster - hooray.... | 14:34 |
| Tandyman100 | I agree. It kills my already crappy battery life in android. | 14:34 |
| DoerOfThings | i am running at 720 MHz and its quite stable and faster | 14:34 |
| Tandyman100 | DoerOfThings, what device is this? | 14:34 |
| DoerOfThings | rhod 400 | 14:35 |
| DoerOfThings | its roughly 200 MHz faster than stock | 14:37 |
| Tandyman100 | nice | 14:38 |
| DoerOfThings | It works. | 14:38 |
| Tandyman100 | could you PM my a paste of your startup.txt? | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | good for e-penis | 14:38 |
| Tandyman100 | ^that | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | make those silly benchmark apps go slightly higher | 14:38 |
| Tandyman100 | You should see my facebook profile pic. | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, wtf | 14:39 |
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| arrrghhh | startups are included | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | OC -> FAQ | 14:39 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, I know | 14:39 |
| Tandyman100 | but I'm lazy | 14:39 |
| Tandyman100 | :P | 14:39 |
| * Tandyman100 bounces off to the wiki | 14:40 | |
| Tandyman100 | Time for overcocking | 14:40 |
| DoerOfThings | do you need the code or are you going to find it | 14:40 |
| Tandyman100 | I found the code | 14:41 |
| DoerOfThings | kk | 14:41 |
| Tandyman100 | acpuclock.oc_freq_khz= something | 14:42 |
| Tandyman100 | what do you have yours set to? | 14:42 |
| DoerOfThings | 720000 | 14:42 |
| Tandyman100 | ok | 14:42 |
| Tandyman100 | And that's generally safe? | 14:42 |
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| DoerOfThings | yes. generally anything from 748 and down | 14:43 |
| DoerOfThings | 748 MHz | 14:43 |
| Tandyman100 | Ok. | 14:43 |
| DoerOfThings | 748 MHz is not stable at all though | 14:43 |
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| arrrghhh | some dude claimed he hit 820 | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | e-peeeeeeeeeeeeeenis | 14:44 |
| stinebd | i hit 128 once | 14:45 |
| DoerOfThings | not possible. i have done 128 too but in windows mobile | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried 600, 614, 650, 690, 700, and they all seemed to hurt more than help | 14:45 |
| DoerOfThings | it really didnt like it | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | DoerOfThings, it is possible lol | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | and i think the processor hits that anyways as it scales | 14:45 |
| DoerOfThings | yeah if you want to break your phone | 14:45 |
| stinebd | it really screams at 19.2 | 14:45 |
| DoerOfThings | lol | 14:46 |
| DoerOfThings | i bet | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | the first increment | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | you rebel stinebd | 14:46 |
| DoerOfThings | i bet at 820 Mhz you have the best battery life | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, you can enter whatever number you want | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | but the clock will only go in 19.2khz steps. it'll automatically adjust to the closest step down i believe... | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | ie, 700000 is 692.x | 14:47 |
| DoerOfThings | that is correct | 14:47 |
| DoerOfThings | is gingerbread build any good? i want to give it a try | 14:48 |
| stinebd | no | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | you can have as many builds as your little mSD card can hold | 14:49 |
| DoerOfThings | well seeing how its a 16gb that should be quite a lot | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea i've got a hodgepodge of poop on my 8gb card | 14:50 |
| DoerOfThings | if i switch builds do i have to delete data | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | i've wasted a good chunk of the card partitioning it so it'll work on cwm and XDAndroid dedicated partition builds | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | data.img between gb and froyo would not work | 14:51 |
| stinebd | why not? | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | it would? | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i assumed that definitely wouldn't work | 14:51 |
| stinebd | i've done it | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | considering hyc said 06->07 data.img wouldn't work... | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 14:52 |
| stinebd | not sure why he said that | 14:52 |
| DoerOfThings | i will try it and get back | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think the apps would be compatible | 14:52 |
| stinebd | which apps? | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, he had a list of reasons. | 14:52 |
| stinebd | no he had like two questionable reasons | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | hahah | 14:52 |
| stinebd | involved the dalvik cache and something else | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i don't remember | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'd have to look at forum posts or something. | 14:52 |
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| DoerOfThings | we will know the truth in about 16 minutes. stupid internet | 14:53 |
| stinebd | i don't think current rootfs will work with gingerbread | 14:54 |
| bluenote | hey arrrgh you around | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | no | 14:54 |
| DoerOfThings | does that mean i have to download the whole bundle. as tobyturner would say GOD DANG IT | 14:55 |
| bluenote | I've got my diam500 and I have a bit to test the FRX07 stuff | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | a brave soul | 14:55 |
| bluenote | but released kernel and latest kernel both wont boot with the smd_tty errors | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried 1276? | 14:55 |
| bluenote | Im afraid Im going to show my ignorance here but | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | it's uh... ancient. kernel released with frx06 | 14:56 |
| bluenote | 1227 works fine, I will go back to that | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | or what was it | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | 0622 | 14:56 |
| bluenote | but I want to know what part is actually frx07 | 14:56 |
| bluenote | yes 0622 sorry | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | 1227 is really ancient | 14:56 |
| bluenote | brain fart, 0622 | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | 20110622_180615 | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | aka 1332 | 14:57 |
| bluenote | does the frx designation refer to rootfs.img or is it system.ext | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | system.ext2 | 14:57 |
| bluenote | ok I'll go back to my working backup with 0622 and just replace the system file then | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | although some rootfs' have been released with a system image | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | they complement eachother | 14:58 |
| bluenote | I think there's actually two problems with the released frx07 package for diam500 -- one is the smd_tty buffer issue, but I believe there's a secondary issue which is what people report when they bump the kernel back but still cant use the phone | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | so the newest rootfs probably won't work with the gb release | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | the phone is so slow it's unusable? | 14:59 |
| bluenote | yes | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:59 |
| bluenote | and/or, the touchscreen doesnt react very well | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | i want to know why i guess | 14:59 |
| bluenote | or at all | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | adb | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | look at top | 14:59 |
| bluenote | well Im going to try and narrow it down right now | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | what's soaking up all the damned cpu cycles | 14:59 |
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| stinebd | system_server is back! | 14:59 |
| bluenote | I dont have adb or any of that stuff setup but I should be able to identify the area at least | 15:00 |
| bluenote | gotta test the system file with my old working setup first | 15:00 |
| DoerOfThings | i wish you could download individual parts of the builds like rootfs, modules, etc | 15:00 |
| stinebd | yes i wish that as well | 15:01 |
| stinebd | perhaps some sort of http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs | 15:01 |
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| arrrghhh_ | wtf router | 15:01 |
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| DoerOfThings | worked but which one to download | 15:01 |
| DoerOfThings | got it | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | i g2g | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | bluenote, good luck | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | let me know what you find in the thread or on here or somewhere. | 15:04 |
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| DoerOfThings | confirmed you can use the data from frx07 in gingerbread build | 15:42 |
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| f00bar80 | Calls now have something wrong , I can't hear the recipient, neither he, is there any relation with the issue if I'm enabling 3G nor the battery is too low? this is on touch pro2 RHOD210 | 15:50 |
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| Xofrats | any kernel ppl here? | 16:25 |
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| DoerOfThings | android youtube? | 17:21 |
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| Xofrats | wonder if busybox mount supports multiple -t options | 17:44 |
| Xofrats | And who was it that said the new market was working on frx, I tried the version posted on androidcentral but it wasn't happy being installed | 17:46 |
| DoerOfThings | i also tried using adb no success | 17:55 |
| DoerOfThings | no success installed the newest market on frx that is | 17:57 |
| DoerOfThings | installing* | 17:57 |
| Xofrats | Yeah, it hates our device, not that the current one likes us much | 17:58 |
| Xofrats | smiley apparently did it, but we need to hunt down the version he used | 17:58 |
| DoerOfThings | true i have noticed search is quite laggy on current | 17:58 |
| Xofrats | new market works fine on an epic, wonder if I should try on my optimus | 17:59 |
| DoerOfThings | worth a shot | 17:59 |
| Xofrats | current one acts braindead once an app is installed, and leaves files all over | 17:59 |
| DoerOfThings | what device are you using? | 17:59 |
| Xofrats | rhod400 | 18:00 |
| DoerOfThings | off subject but have you tried OC | 18:00 |
| Xofrats | yeah | 18:00 |
| DoerOfThings | what freq? | 18:00 |
| Xofrats | I posted on that thread | 18:01 |
| Xofrats | right now 660, at 640 the bottom started to get warm | 18:01 |
| DoerOfThings | i am at 710 MHz not warm at all | 18:02 |
| DoerOfThings | battery life not bad | 18:02 |
| Xofrats | each device is different | 18:02 |
| DoerOfThings | true i am also using a rhod400 | 18:02 |
| Xofrats | that and around here it's 100F | 18:02 |
| DoerOfThings | enough said :p | 18:03 |
| Xofrats | I'll see how stable it's at 652 | 18:03 |
| Xofrats | maybe bump it up once I track down how to recompile the kernel | 18:03 |
| DoerOfThings | i have only run into one crash at 710. | 18:04 |
| Xofrats | well, it's the silent corruption that kills you | 18:04 |
| Xofrats | My old optimus would run fine at 768 | 18:04 |
| Xofrats | but once you started cpu intensive stuff, bam | 18:05 |
| DoerOfThings | hmmm havent seen that yet | 18:05 |
| Xofrats | I like to do thermal migration exercise anyway | 18:06 |
| DoerOfThings | thermal migration? | 18:06 |
| Xofrats | yeah, basically atoms rearranging itself due to heat | 18:06 |
| DoerOfThings | got it | 18:07 |
| Xofrats | overclocking tends to be much smoother if you ramp your oc | 18:07 |
| Xofrats | instead of trying it all at once | 18:07 |
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| Xofrats | emwe | 18:08 |
| Xofrats | you there? | 18:08 |
| DoerOfThings | interesting | 18:08 |
| emwe | stinebd: just fyi, current rootfs works with gb. | 18:08 |
| emwe | Xofrats: a short bit, why? | 18:08 |
| Xofrats | know what I need to compile the current git of .35? | 18:08 |
| DoerOfThings | i havent tried the new rootfs but i will take your word for it | 18:08 |
| Xofrats | finally got git and build-essential on my rhod | 18:09 |
| emwe | Xofrats: same as you would with .27 ;) | 18:09 |
| Xofrats | so I figured I'd try and get ext4 on it | 18:09 |
| Xofrats | ... there's no instruction for .27 either | 18:09 |
| Xofrats | there's for the system and root and initrd, no hable kernel | 18:10 |
| Xofrats | I just need to know what to run as git to get the kernel source | 18:11 |
| emwe | Xofrats: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=394317262428&topic=14012 start with this | 18:11 |
| Xofrats | k | 18:11 |
| emwe | Xofrats: if you don't intend to do actual kernel development, there's an autobuild page as well | 18:11 |
| Xofrats | autobuild doesn't sprechen ext4 | 18:12 |
| Xofrats | I intend to go with ext4 data.img, getting sick of corrupting it | 18:12 |
| emwe | phh: you got any idea why a readl() during machine init would cause a freeze on boot? | 18:12 |
| emwe | phh: same code (monodie detection) works on .27. am a bit puzzled. | 18:13 |
| emwe | hm, bbl... | 18:13 |
| * Xofrats is extremely happy with how things look with no lcd.density= (aka 210) | 18:14 | |
| Xofrats | ok, time to free this term... brb if I have issues | 18:17 |
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| Xofrats | Does git clone actually expect me to store a 700M file just to be able to pull files? | 19:16 |
| stinebd | it's a 700MB tree, and yes | 19:18 |
| Xofrats | ... | 19:18 |
| Xofrats | any way to short-circuit that? I'm trying to compile .35 with ext4, not clone a whole cd | 19:19 |
| stinebd | it has the entire history in there... | 19:19 |
| * Xofrats might just end up downloading the tarball on every update... | 19:20 | |
| stinebd | what, do you have a 20GB hard drive? | 19:20 |
| Xofrats | Try a 4gb rhod400 | 19:21 |
| stinebd | ? | 19:21 |
| Xofrats | I'm doing this on my rhodium | 19:21 |
| stinebd | you're... building a kernel on your rhodium? | 19:21 |
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| Xofrats | yes | 19:21 |
| stinebd | why? | 19:21 |
| Xofrats | because I can? | 19:22 |
| Xofrats | I've got ubuntu running on it just fine | 19:22 |
| Xofrats | in fact, that's what I'm on right now | 19:22 |
| Xofrats | Linux localhost 2.6.27.46-01342-gb9e00e1 #30 PREEMPT Mon Jul 18 22:34:22 CEST 2011 armv6l GNU/Linux | 19:22 |
| stinebd | well if you're bent on doing it, that's fine. but if all you want to do is build a kernel for it, that's the worst possible way to do it. | 19:23 |
| Xofrats | what's a better idea then? | 19:23 |
| stinebd | use a desktop and a cross compiler | 19:23 |
| stinebd | or a laptop of course | 19:23 |
| stinebd | a pc of any kind | 19:23 |
| Xofrats | haven't had a computer since feb | 19:23 |
| Xofrats | all the stuff I do it's been through my mobile devices | 19:24 |
| stinebd | oy vey. have fun then. | 19:24 |
| Xofrats | how apart is the .35 tree from .27 tree? | 19:27 |
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| stinebd | very | 19:32 |
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| * Xofrats wonders if it's worth trying .35 just for ext4 | 19:37 | |
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| hyc | i wonder if there's even enough ram to run the compiler with optimization enabled | 19:40 |
| hyc | not bloody likely | 19:40 |
| Fudge | anyone know what sonyerricons x10 is like? | 19:42 |
| Xofrats | so does someone wanna let me have an acct on a shell so I can git and compile? | 19:42 |
| stinebd | vps prices are very reasonable | 19:44 |
| Fudge | u dont have a linux box? | 19:44 |
| Xofrats | Sure I do... Running one right now | 19:45 |
| Xofrats | aka rhod400 running xdandroid | 19:45 |
| stinebd | running ubuntu | 19:46 |
| Xofrats | well, chroot ubuntu | 19:46 |
| Fudge | why couldnt tha tcompile then | 19:47 |
| Xofrats | I tell you, for something this size, it's got a killer keyboard, once the right .kl and .kcm.bin files are loaded | 19:47 |
| stinebd | sigh | 19:48 |
| Xofrats | borders is liquidating everything, didn't they have an android ereader? | 19:51 |
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| phh | [00:16:03] <emwe> phh: you got any idea why a readl() during machine init would cause a freeze on boot? <----- well it doesn't actually freeze, it's just that you get an exception error. | 19:59 |
| phh | of course it won't be handled in init code | 19:59 |
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| stinebd | why? | 20:06 |
| stinebd | hyc: i accidentally close the gingerbread merge request but it's in locally anyway | 20:07 |
| stinebd | so i won't bother reopening | 20:07 |
| phh | why which part ? | 20:12 |
| stinebd | why would readl() except? | 20:12 |
| stinebd | curious, i don't know the mechanisms at work | 20:12 |
| phh | (ok sec, my brain is sleepy, i can't remember words.) | 20:12 |
| phh | for readl to work, you need virtual memory to be done | 20:13 |
| stinebd | i see | 20:13 |
| phh | I mean the mapping between physical address and virtual | 20:13 |
| phh | it's done quite soon | 20:13 |
| phh | but there isn't much things done before machine init | 20:13 |
| stinebd | i was going to ask at which point it's done heh | 20:13 |
| phh | i'm checking | 20:13 |
| stinebd | but he's trying to do something for machine detection i believe | 20:14 |
| phh | msm_map_common_io() | 20:14 |
| phh | it's called in machine init itself actually | 20:14 |
| phh | ah no | 20:15 |
| phh | in "map_io" function | 20:15 |
| phh | (what, it doesn't help ? oh right :D) | 20:15 |
| stinebd | i wonder what emwe is doing | 20:16 |
| phh | ok | 20:17 |
| phh | so the order is fixup then map_io then machine_init | 20:18 |
| phh | so readl should actually work in machine_init | 20:18 |
| stinebd | so is he hitting a bad address or something then? | 20:19 |
| phh | next idea is that he is trying to read memory from a device that isn't powered on yet | 20:19 |
| phh | idea++; is that he is trying to access to lower SBL, which is protected until later in the boot | 20:22 |
| stinebd | protected from reads? | 20:22 |
| phh | mmmm | 20:23 |
| phh | perhaps only writes | 20:23 |
| phh | i'm not sure | 20:23 |
| phh | nowadays i'm working on devices with serial | 20:25 |
| phh | it's soooooooooooo much easier | 20:25 |
| phh | (and next year it will even be less fun, i'll have jtags) | 20:26 |
| phh | btw, i had to reverse part of TI's gps driver. it was easier than understanding their sourcecode | 20:27 |
| stinebd | gps is TI? | 20:28 |
| phh | on archos' devices | 20:31 |
| phh | i'm speaking unrelated sometimes you know :D | 20:31 |
| stinebd | which archos are you playing with? | 20:33 |
| phh | next generation | 20:34 |
| phh | (i'm working for them atm) | 20:34 |
| stinebd | ah ok | 20:34 |
| stinebd | docs and everything, that is indeed too easy | 20:34 |
| phh | i hadn't any docs ... | 20:35 |
| phh | only source code | 20:35 |
| phh | and "this code works for us, have fun!" | 20:35 |
| phh | well, for GPS, to be more precise, i had "ormal operating mode code, but i was supposed to write a testing mode app | 20:35 |
| phh | and for the testing mode, well... there is only a windows app. | 20:36 |
| phh | stinebd: ah and i've seen their camera code. assuming qualcomm is mostly the same, i'm still wondering how the hell you got camera working without AMSS' sourcecode. | 20:37 |
| stinebd | wasn't me ;) | 20:38 |
| phh | yeah well "you" here means xdandroid :p | 20:38 |
| stinebd | jerome spent a lot of time on that | 20:39 |
| stinebd | maybe he has the source code somewhere though, heh | 20:40 |
| phh | the bad thing in company compared to nice reverse engineering, is that you don't take time to understand stuff, you just get them to work :/ (well, because you can, when REing you mostly have to understand) | 20:42 |
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| hyc | gahhhh, gitorious messenger spam | 21:30 |
| stinebd | sorry | 21:31 |
| hyc | ;) | 21:31 |
| stinebd | i'm seeing a commit in gingerbread that emwe shouldn't have made | 21:31 |
| stinebd | and i'm not sure why he did | 21:31 |
| stinebd | https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_msm7k/commit/aa01920dcb372839a43d86bfb8c31eb4e2d05108 | 21:32 |
| stinebd | it actually _decreases_ it by my count | 21:32 |
| stinebd | and changes it from what's in froyo | 21:33 |
| stinebd | so i'm very confused by that commit | 21:33 |
| hyc | 3000*1024 | 21:33 |
| hyc | and what's the oem.h that the comment refers to? | 21:33 |
| stinebd | some upstream crap | 21:33 |
| stinebd | no idea | 21:34 |
| stinebd | maybe the source of the gl driver | 21:34 |
| hyc | ah | 21:34 |
| stinebd | anyway it's 0x2ee000 after the commit | 21:34 |
| hyc | yeah | 21:35 |
| stinebd | when the driver was hacked to be 0x2f... | 21:35 |
| hyc | down by 10K or so | 21:35 |
| stinebd | i think i should revert it | 21:35 |
| hyc | sounds like it | 21:35 |
| hyc | add a note about matching the driver ... | 21:36 |
| stinebd | yeah | 21:36 |
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| stinebd | epic gingerbread merge | 23:27 |
| stinebd | maybe it'll build | 23:27 |
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