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| Fudge | wake up guys | 06:13 |
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| smiley- | hmm | 06:41 |
| smiley- | [12293.489227] mmc1: Command timeout | 06:41 |
| smiley- | [12293.494262] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 387676 | 06:41 |
| smiley- | [12293.494293] Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0p1, logical block 385628 | 06:41 |
| smiley- | I wonder if it's time to actually start use my new SD-card | 06:41 |
| Fudge | hi smiley- | 06:41 |
| Fudge | you havent figured out to run native yet? | 06:41 |
| smiley- | native= | 06:42 |
| smiley- | ? | 06:42 |
| smiley- | you mean NAND-booting? wiping Windows mobile totally? | 06:46 |
| smiley- | it's funny.. I'm spending so much time on this just because "it works to run android on a winmobile" | 06:46 |
| smiley- | it's not like I don't have money to buy a real one ;) it's just that there isn't any good ones ;) | 06:47 |
| smiley- | Desire Z is close but it has very little memory and people say it's slow | 06:47 |
| local | smiley-, can i whip winmo and put just android on ? (htc blackstone) | 06:49 |
| local | i wont do it now, not until i have one that works 100% ( or close to 100% ) | 06:49 |
| smiley- | local: there is some work being done on it.. but I don't know more | 06:50 |
| smiley- | I think there is problem getting all hardware to initalize correctly on a cold boot | 06:51 |
| local | ok | 06:51 |
| smiley- | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=LK_Bootloader | 06:51 |
| smiley- | there is some info | 06:51 |
| local | ok | 06:52 |
| local | thank you | 06:59 |
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| Fudge | sorry smiley- , yeah that would be the way to go | 08:40 |
| Fudge | but relying on winmo to do it for us is lame loL | 08:40 |
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| Tandyman100 | <smiley-> it's not like I don't have money to buy a real one ;) it's just that there isn't any good ones ;) | 10:36 |
| Tandyman100 | ^this | 10:36 |
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| ryannathans | if there was a new, fast, jizzerific new android phone withh a keyboard like tp2, i would buy | 11:42 |
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| f00bar80 | I'm asking i can install xdAndroid on htc wizard ?? | 13:55 |
| f00bar80 | if* | 13:55 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh has been mysteriously not present in the past few days. hmm. | 13:55 |
| Tandyman100 | f00bar80 from what I can see, it doesn't look like it. | 13:56 |
| Tandyman100 | There might be some non-xdandroid distro that works. | 13:56 |
| f00bar80 | Tandyman100, i've found wing-linux which porting Android 1.5/6 but the project is dead, don't you know what's required to upgrade to android 2.x | 13:59 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Bora Celik, who says: Thanks for developing FRX07. I hope you can find a solution for headphones. | 14:06 |
| f00bar80 | on touchPro2 can't get wifi working ? | 14:08 |
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| f00bar80 | xdandroid comes with which Android version ? | 14:36 |
| rpierce99 | afaik there are eclair, froyo, and gingerbread versions | 14:37 |
| rpierce99 | froyo has the most support, gingerbread is coming up, and eclair is dead | 14:38 |
| f00bar80 | rpierce99, so the last version "2.2.2 FRX07" comes with froyo ? | 14:47 |
| rpierce99 | 2.2 = Froyo | 14:47 |
| rpierce99 | 2.3 = GB | 14:47 |
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| stinebd | **seen arrrghhh | 17:17 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: arrrghhh was last seen in #xdandroid 1 day, 23 hours, 57 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <arrrghhh> oh well, g2g guys. | 17:17 |
| stinebd | yep, he finally snapped | 17:17 |
| rpierce99 | he's been on xda | 17:18 |
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| emwe | he contacted me yesterday saying "DUDE!!!" via gtalk and didn't react anymore. | 17:24 |
| pro | maybe he got abducted by 'nalins ? | 17:26 |
| pro | and he was trying to ask you for help and you didnt reply fast nuff and now hes gone | 17:27 |
| pro | and now im screwed cause he cant fix my sound :( | 17:28 |
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| stinebd | he only says dude when he's super angry | 17:33 |
| pro | oh | 17:34 |
| emwe | then i fscked him off. however. | 17:34 |
| pro | i used to get angry when people called me dude | 17:34 |
| emwe | s/however/how ever i should have done that. | 17:34 |
| pro | cause i was not a ninja turtle or a surfer | 17:35 |
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| kistibi | Hello, does anybody know how to change the LED behavior in FRX07 in a way that of hyc's FRX06+? That is blinking green when sleeping. Thx. | 18:01 |
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| rpierce99 | yeah you write the kernel code to do it, or borrow it from hycs tree and recompile | 18:03 |
| kistibi | Do you think is it available somewhere in source form? | 18:06 |
| rpierce99 | you'd have to take the led state code from hycs kernel, and put it into the main line code from autobuild, but yes both are available | 18:07 |
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| hyc | Or we could convince emwe to just merge my LED changes | 18:42 |
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| kistibi | +1 for convince :) | 18:45 |
| stinebd | netflix on atrix now :> | 18:46 |
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| hyc | at this point I'm about ready to remove those LED hacks tho. Probably leave it on for the wakelock case, and nothing else. | 18:53 |
| hyc | I mean, when the screen is on, the orange LED is redundant. when the phone is actually sleeping, let it be completely sleeping. | 18:54 |
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| rpierce99 | yeah i just really need to see when the screen is off but the phone is still awake | 18:55 |
| rpierce99 | the light to detect SoD situations never helped because the SoD appeared to happen when waking, so the light was normal | 18:56 |
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| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: WB! | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | work's been... overwhelming. plus, they didn't like my ssh tunnel lol. | 18:59 |
| stinebd | run it on port 443 | 19:01 |
| stinebd | that'll learn em | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:01 |
| stinebd | how do you like my https-for-all-you-know bitches | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | they blocked my IP in the IronPort device. | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | that would've been a good idea. i used a high port... d'oh. | 19:01 |
| kistibi | On the sdcard there is an Android/data directory. I use different looped builds (FRX06,FRX06+,FRX07,GBX0A). Before I boot using haret I change the mentioned dir as well (ie. mv Android/data Android/dataGBX0A; mv Android/dataFRX06 Android/data) | 19:01 |
| kistibi | I would like to know whether it is necessary or not? | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | don't think so kistibi | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | i don't do that, haven't noticed any huge issues | 19:02 |
| hyc | pretty sure that directory is for apps to use as they wish. I doubt that any apps will are so version-dependent. | 19:04 |
| rpierce99 | yeah the android getExternalStorage API uses /sdcard/data | 19:09 |
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| kistibi | ok then I get out of the habit of renaming them. | 19:13 |
| * Fudge stabs arrrghhh {ehlo} | 19:19 | |
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| arrrghhh | dudes are not allowed to stab me. | 19:20 |
| Fudge | cmon u big girl u love it :p | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | hey, my name ain't Fudge. | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 19:24 |
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| Fudge | ahaha | 19:26 |
| Fudge | so arrrghhh , whats involved in nand for rhod at this stage? | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | what's involved...? | 19:31 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, was enter key removed from the virtual kb? | 19:33 |
| stinebd | whaaaaaat? | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | i never use the virtual kb | 19:34 |
| Fudge | arrrghhh how far through dev is it? is there a thread | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | Fudge, yes there's a few threads. | 19:34 |
| stinebd | the enter key isn't always visible | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 19:34 |
| stinebd | it interchanges with the action key (which says things like Done or Next) | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | i would assume it would be visible when text messaging? | 19:34 |
| stinebd | i don't even have that forked | 19:35 |
| stinebd | so stop whining to me about it | 19:35 |
| stinebd | it's entirely google's code | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | hey i'm just passing crap on from the forums | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | was there a change in the most recent version tho? | 19:35 |
| stinebd | commit 6558253160e2039c87f424bd814f402ecd31de3b Author: Ken Wakasa <kwakasa@google.com> Date: Wed Aug 4 03:47:42 2010 +0900 | 19:36 |
| stinebd | last commit | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | he's also complaining that enter is send, which has always been the case | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:36 |
| Fudge | im stuck in an app and cant exit it lol | 19:36 |
| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Alberto Lozano Pablo, who says: A small contribution to thank your effort | 19:36 |
| stinebd | i assume 2010 was last year | 19:36 |
| Fudge | walky talky | 19:36 |
| stinebd | hit the end call button | 19:36 |
| stinebd | it's home now | 19:36 |
| Fudge | thats usually the last button isnt it? goes to turn off phone screen | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | Fudge, doesn't in 07 | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | end call is home. button on the far right bottom of the phone. | 19:37 |
| Fudge | i jsut locked my screen | 19:37 |
| Fudge | its 07 | 19:37 |
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| stinebd | which device? | 19:38 |
| Fudge | rhod 110 tp 2 | 19:38 |
| stinebd | end call is definitely home no | 19:38 |
| stinebd | now* | 19:38 |
| Fudge | the one on the other end goes to call log | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's send call | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | answer call, whatever | 19:39 |
| Fudge | oh thats the first key then | 19:39 |
| Fudge | not sure how from call log screen to get to launcher | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | bck | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | back | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | or home (end call) | 19:40 |
| Fudge | pro bend up having to turn phone off | 19:41 |
| Fudge | least i got more of a day uptime this time round | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:41 |
| Fudge | bk jsut takes me back to the app | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | home takes you to the desktop | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | back goes back | 19:42 |
| Fudge | its like not responding but andoid isnt killing it | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | patience is a virtue trying to run Android on such a slow device. | 19:42 |
| Fudge | think def clock is 530 | 19:43 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: bug 140 | 19:46 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=140 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED LATER, Bluetooth dialer issues | 19:46 |
| Fudge | where on forum should i look arrrghhh for nand info | 19:47 |
| stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=589 | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | the thread that says NAND testing maybe? | 19:47 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: see what i mean? | 19:47 |
| stinebd | right up that wall | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 19:48 |
| stinebd | anyway, 140 is an interesting bug | 19:48 |
| stinebd | with a lack of routing i'm surprised it came up with anything | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | well several have said BT works | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | that in calls it's fine | 19:48 |
| stinebd | they're lying | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | but several have said it doesn't... | 19:49 |
| stinebd | those guys are tellin gthe truth | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't get it to work | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | *shrug* | 19:51 |
| stinebd | you get an atrix yet? | 19:54 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna need a tester | 19:54 |
| stinebd | don't wanna brick mine | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | no kb | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | no cdma | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | you can buy me one to brick, yes pls :D | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol sorry 'bout that stupid report earlier. | 19:56 |
| stinebd | which? | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | "Chomp sms remaps it to have the return key." <-- wtf | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | that enter key one | 19:56 |
| stinebd | oh | 19:56 |
| stinebd | don't trust users | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea i usually don't | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | i tested it myself, i thought there was supposed to be an enter key under messaging | 19:57 |
| stinebd | i should fork it and remove all the vowels | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 19:57 |
| stinebd | or have it assign a random keymap (with qwerty labels still) every time it loads | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | april fools build? | 19:57 |
| Fudge | lol | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, guess what. | 20:25 |
| Tandyman100 | Guess what's arriving Monday or Tuesday? | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | some old winmo phone | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 20:26 |
| Tandyman100 | bzzt | 20:26 |
| Tandyman100 | a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | congrats on your horrible decision. | 20:26 |
| Tandyman100 | Amazing hardware keyboard, here I come. | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | you got one w/o the 3.5mm jack | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | or CDMA... but i guess if you're fine GSM only. | 20:26 |
| Tandyman100 | it was all I could find for under $50 | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | don't judge | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | ;P | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | hope you get the extUSB plug | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I have a 3.5mm adaptor from my Diamond | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | if not, order one. they're like $2 | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | there you go | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | pretty shitty tho, i really like having the actual jack :D | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I didn't know the sprint version had a 3.5mm plug. Hmm | 20:27 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, I've gone through two of those adaptors | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | vz does as well | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | but, hell. WVGA. \m/ [>_<] \m/ | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | all the CDMA devices do basically | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | well bla bla :P | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | well don't expect android to run well | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | you're a winmo phanboi so you can probably deal. | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | I found one that was in almost perfect condition, except it was "slow and lagged" | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | but I already bid on the one I ended up with | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | so I was stuck with it :\ | 20:28 |
| Tandyman100 | I think it was even the Sprint version | 20:29 |
| Tandyman100 | Damn my luck. | 20:29 |
| Tandyman100 | I wasn't even expecting to win it, I just bid 8 hours before it ended and forgot about it. | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | you had a RAPH right? | 20:31 |
| kistibi | I'am a little bit confused regarding XDAndroid file system layout. Generally I think I am aware of an average Linux FS: /bin,/etc,/lib, /usr,... | 20:33 |
| kistibi | Here /etc is symlinked to /system. And there are /bin and /system/bin and /lib and /system/lib. How can I imagine this /system thing. Is it like a chrooted environment? | 20:33 |
| kistibi | The last line of init is exec init.android. Is init.android belongs to XDAnroid or is it already AOSP? | 20:33 |
| kistibi | Why are there two libhtcgeneric-ril.so? One is in ./lib/froyo/libhtcgeneric-ril.so the other one is ./system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so. Which one is used? | 20:33 |
| kistibi | Why are there two sqlite3? One is in /bin the other one is in /system/xbin. They are different. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 20:33 |
| kistibi | Where can I find further documentation/rationale about it? Sorry for the long question. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | kistibi, WTF | 20:33 |
| kistibi | patience,tolerance | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | usually when people ask a question | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | they don't paste 15 things | 20:34 |
| kistibi | ok, thats right I admit. | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | that's just rude. ask one simple question, get a simple answer. ask 15 questions all at once you'll get nothing. | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | but /lib/froyo/libhtcgeneric-ril.so is no more | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | (or should be no more...) | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | i can't quite explain the rest. why? what's the problem? | 20:35 |
| kistibi | Just tried to paraphase the situation. No problem to solve. Just finding info | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | for? | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | usually when people ask specific questions like that, they're trying to solve a specific problem. | 20:37 |
| kistibi | for deeper understanding of XDAndroid. | 20:37 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh Yes, I had a raph. Right now I have a diamond. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | so if there's no problem then i don't think there's any reason to ask such questions... i certainly don't have answers for you. at least not that you'd be satisifed with :P | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, well RHOD is probably slower because of the higher res lol. | 20:38 |
| Eodun | grrr sorry, I have to ask | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | although maybe "turbo" mode makes up for that | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | cuz my RHOD didn't really feel any slower than my RAPH from what i can recall. | 20:39 |
| Eodun | I restored something I shouldn't with TB and now I'm getting this error in logcat again | 20:39 |
| Eodun | D/Tethering( 1335): interfaceAdded :tiwlan0 | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | Eodun, what did you restore | 20:39 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, my diamond is plenty fast. I just want WVGA. | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | why not just remove it lol | 20:39 |
| Tandyman100 | Noone makes crap for VGA anymore | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, no one makes crap for WinMo anymore. | 20:39 |
| Tandyman100 | fair point | 20:39 |
| Eodun | bc I would have to restore everything | 20:39 |
| Tandyman100 | well, some do. | 20:39 |
| Tandyman100 | there's the occasional "game" made for it | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | Eodun, eh? just remove the app you resstored. | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, lies | 20:40 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, truth. | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | prove it. | 20:40 |
| Eodun | arrrghhh: will try to remove everything again... | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | show me something that was developed for winmo in the last 12 months. | 20:40 |
| Tandyman100 | K, brb. XDA-Dev blog. | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | Eodun, why everything? | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get it. | 20:40 |
| stinebd | new haret! | 20:40 |
| * stinebd runs | 20:40 | |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol | 20:40 |
| Eodun | bc it must be some system settings | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | Eodun, i don't know what to tell you | 20:41 |
| Eodun | It was working perfectly and I had to mess with it... | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | you're making assumptions based on... i don't know really. | 20:41 |
| stinebd | working perfectly is boring | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 20:41 |
| Eodun | Perhaps a place to check where tiwlan is called? :D | 20:41 |
| Eodun | arrrghhh: either it's an app that messed with supplicant (strange) or it's system settings. I didn't restore anything more | 20:42 |
| Eodun | anyway | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | bummer | 20:42 |
| Eodun | trial and error for some time | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:42 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, I found three games made recently (very recently) before giving up. Here ya go: http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/supermariobros-run-for-windows-mobile/ | 20:42 |
| Tandyman100 | http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/supermeatboy-saws-of-death-for-windows-mobile/ | 20:43 |
| Tandyman100 | http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/angry-birds-option-for-windows-mobile/ | 20:43 |
| Tandyman100 | Suck it. | 20:43 |
| Tandyman100 | They're really rubbish, but they're games. | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | gawd | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | they're all horrid | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | ok, you proved me wrong in the worst way imaginable. | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | kudos | 20:44 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:44 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 20:44 |
| Tandyman100 | they SUCK | 20:44 |
| * Tandyman100 gratefully accepts praise from arrrghhh, for it is a rare thing indeed. | 20:44 | |
| arrrghhh | i would say find an app/utility but i don't really care. | 20:44 |
| Tandyman100 | That I can do as well, but I'm too lazy. | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i stopped caring after the first link | 20:45 |
| Tandyman100 | Someone made a launcher utility for flash games, someone else made ANOTHER wp7 lookalike app. | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | not really sure what compelled me to click on the other two. | 20:45 |
| Tandyman100 | I think another guy made a forum reader. | 20:45 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:45 |
| Fudge | mm | 20:45 |
| Tandyman100 | probably the "Saws of death" | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | hahah | 20:45 |
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| arrrghhh | angry birds reeled me in | 20:47 |
| stinebd | ok chat poll | 20:49 |
| stinebd | vagisil vs monistat, GO | 20:49 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:49 |
| Tandyman100 | I am a man. | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | i prefer yogurt on my vag | 20:50 |
| Tandyman100 | I perffer bbq sauce | 20:50 |
| Tandyman100 | prefer* | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | zomg garlic. | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | no | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | fucking | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | joke | 20:50 |
| Tandyman100 | FISH TACOS | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | "I use garlic. I actuall make a tampon out of it. I wrap it in a bit of gauze (from a bandage) then just tie some sewing thread around it. I change it every day. I have to see if I can find a link... had lots of useful stuff. Garlic always works for me!" | 20:50 |
| Tandyman100 | ...wtf? | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | google is evil | 20:51 |
| stinebd | interesting | 20:51 |
| stinebd | but the smell? | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | better than the normal smell | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | plus, it wards off vampires and other Twilight wannabe's | 20:52 |
| stinebd | depends on the woman | 20:52 |
| stinebd | garlic is pretty damn strong | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | mmmhmmmm | 20:52 |
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| Fudge | i hate forums | 21:00 |
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| Fudge | takes for ever to findstuff | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | there's this amazing thing called search | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | it helps you find stuff much faster | 21:03 |
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| Fudge | yes arrrghhh , i did try that. for myself forums take a long time for me to read, taht is why I prefer IRC. | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | well there are a lot of irrelevant posts in forums | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | c'est la vie | 21:06 |
| Fudge | I know its best way to get info so channels like this dont have to repeat stuff etc | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 21:07 |
| Fudge | downloaded mobilespeak from codefactory so i can launch haret for when somethign unexpected happens | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | ok? | 21:08 |
| Fudge | even though we ppinnted it at top of start menu, but e.g at moment its not openning, something likely very simple but when you cant read the screen pft | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | reading the screen does seem to be a pretty essential feature of using a phone, yes... | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | honestly you're probably making it a lot more difficult on yourself trying to run this poop on that old phone :P: | 21:09 |
| Fudge | is it that old? | 21:16 |
| Fudge | thought was less than 18 months | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | TP2? | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | it was released in May 2009 | 21:16 |
| Fudge | so it sjust over 2 years old | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | which is like 2 decades in phone time. | 21:16 |
| Fudge | point taken | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | plus the hardware in it was already pretty old | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | they used the same processor, same ram, etc as the tp1... | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | even the same stupid camera, but REMOVED the LED flash. | 21:17 |
| Fudge | loL | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | so even when this device was brand new, it was outdated... :/ | 21:17 |
| Fudge | are you familiar with any newer similar ones, off the top of your head. need slide out qwerty | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | there's nothing good really | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | g2/dz is alright i guess | 21:18 |
| Fudge | i looked into it a fair bit when deciding but didnt have guys like here as a resource | 21:18 |
| Fudge | what's that? | 21:18 |
| Fudge | dezire? | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | desire Z | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | the "Z" hinge seems dumb | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | but other than that, seems like a good phone | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | mytouch 4g slide or whatever poop tmo is pumping out | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | looks alright | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | i hate the mytouch line tho | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | the phones are full of feces | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | heh, MSM7200A was released in 2007 | 21:20 |
| Fudge | oh gosh | 21:20 |
| Fudge | plug a sim into a netbook and carry that around lmao | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | so yea. suffice to say htc just looked around and picked up some crap lying on the floor to make the TP2 | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | put it in a good lookin shell tho. not sure what they were thinking, other than MONEYMONEYMONEY | 21:21 |
| Fudge | my bro inlaw has some desires, but their are a few models arent there? | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | you mean original desire vs desire hd? | 21:23 |
| Fudge | yep | 21:23 |
| Fudge | think the org had 1 and 2? | 21:24 |
| Fudge | btw whats the gir repo | 21:24 |
| Fudge | git | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few | 21:24 |
| Fudge | rhod? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | no | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | we support many phones, there is no 'rhod' repo. | 21:24 |
| Fudge | ahk | 21:24 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid | 21:25 |
| stinebd | that should keep you busy for a few weeks | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | basically all the repo's | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:25 |
| Fudge | ku | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't include the kernel tho does it? haha | 21:25 |
| stinebd | let's not fly through space before we learn how to open our eyes | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like fun | 21:26 |
| stinebd | userland is hard enough | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | true | 21:26 |
| Tandyman100 | woah | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | WOAH | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | calm down | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | the EnergyROM for the Victor was updated. | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | Victor? | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I didn't think NRGZ28 gave a shit about those any more | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | the Diamond | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't know that was its codename | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | this is the Maxsense one | 21:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I didn't know Maxsense was given any attention anymore | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | he updates the old builds randomly | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | No kidding | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | but not nearly as frequently as he does the other builds | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | which i still wonder why he updates. | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | he's dedicated, if nothing else | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see how he manages it all... Energy covers so many damned phones. | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | and his ROMs are probably the most popular | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | no kidding | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i look at all the threads i 'maintain' | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | puh | 21:28 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 21:29 |
| Tandyman100 | six phones, I think | 21:29 |
| Fudge | omg | 21:29 |
| Fudge | thats a lot | 21:29 |
| Fudge | i went to use headset other day but no go | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | Fudge, extUSB? | 21:29 |
| Tandyman100 | My phone is being homosexaul. | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | no comment. | 21:34 |
| Tandyman100 | No matter what ROM I use, it's complaining about unsigned .exes | 21:34 |
| Tandyman100 | weird | 21:34 |
| stinebd | there's a cab for that | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like a winmo problem | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | begone | 21:34 |
| Tandyman100 | (r) | 21:34 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 21:34 |
| Tandyman100 | stinebd there is? | 21:35 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, it's relavent because I can't run haret :P | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | still sounds like a winmo problem. | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 21:35 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 21:35 |
| Fudge | arrrghhh yeah usb headset | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | Fudge, broken in the latest kernel. revert to before the 3.5mm commit | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | you really don't read forums do you :P | 21:36 |
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| arrrghhh | I/RILC ( 1320): RIL Daemon version: HTC Vogue Community RIL hyc 1b08e13 2011-06-07 01:54:08 -0700 | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | new RIL in use for sure... fawk | 22:22 |
| stinebd | eh? | 22:26 |
| stinebd | was i not supposed to merge it? | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | no... | 22:26 |
| stinebd | crap | 22:26 |
| stinebd | i knew i screwed something up | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | hyc said there's an older version of the RIL in rootfs still | 22:27 |
| rpierce99 | what's wrong with the new ril | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | /lib/froyo | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i'm having service issues | 22:27 |
| hyc | yeah, emwe was running into it on his gb build | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | along with a ton of other tards along with me | 22:27 |
| rpierce99 | right, but what was changed | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i don't know | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | other than it's now all integrated | 22:27 |
| hyc | the new ril should be fine with the new rootfs | 22:27 |
| hyc | the old ril should be trashed | 22:27 |
| Fudge | nah im bad | 22:28 |
| Fudge | i read first like 12 pages of fr6 then gave up | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | i hardly ever outright dropped calls, and now i'm constantly dropping calls. i've watched the radio go into no service mode just randomly | 22:28 |
| stinebd | probably sprint's fault | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | it's not just sprint users... | 22:28 |
| stinebd | that should stop when verizon buys them | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure it's only a matter of a few years | 22:29 |
| stinebd | months | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'm thinking the unlimited data plans might start swaying things in their favor | 22:30 |
| stinebd | they'll drop them soon enough | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | for their sake, i hope not. | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, forgive me. i'm opening threads in the TOPA section | 22:31 |
| Fudge | the radio is the gsm/3g stuff | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | radio = anything cell related | 22:32 |
| Fudge | ah yeah i was dropping out heaps other day | 22:32 |
| Fudge | but i couldnt tell | 22:32 |
| stinebd | white or red cells? | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | black | 22:32 |
| Fudge | unless i open market or something then get the error | 22:32 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, apps requiring root on install seem to fail | 23:52 |
| stinebd | dont care | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:52 |
| stinebd | a) why would an app need root on install? b) why doesn't it use the superuser app then? | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | a) it's complaining about / being RO usually b) you tell me | 23:53 |
| stinebd | root isn't going to solve that problem | 23:53 |
| stinebd | i would consider it malware | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | what about /system? | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to dig up a post here... | 23:53 |
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| stinebd | it's the same on retail devices | 23:54 |
| stinebd | both / and /system are mounted read only | 23:54 |
| stinebd | find me an app | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | even on stuff that's "pre-rooted" if you will? | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to find this post... gimmie a min | 23:55 |
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| stinebd | prerooted? | 23:55 |
| stinebd | now you're just spouting random terms | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:56 |
| stinebd | all of our builds have always been pre-rooted | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | cm stuff | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 23:56 |
| stinebd | it's not cm stuff | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | ...i know | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | but it comes 'rooted' out of the box | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | no? | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | just like cm... | 23:56 |
| stinebd | ok step back a bit here | 23:57 |
| stinebd | on a running device, /system is always mounted read-only | 23:57 |
| stinebd | the end | 23:57 |
| stinebd | an app does not need to remount on install | 23:58 |
| stinebd | if it does, i would consider it malware | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 23:58 |
| stinebd | something like tibackup does all its work on startup for instance | 23:58 |
| stinebd | you start tibackup, it spams you with these toasts about checking for superuser blah blah blah | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15738230&postcount=82 | 23:59 |
| stinebd | then you tell it what you want, tell it to do its thing and THEN it runs su and remounts | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | some poop called Allstays Camp & RV lol | 23:59 |
| stinebd | let me try it on atrix | 23:59 |
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