Friday, 2011-07-15

arrrghhhi thought gallery3d was required for Picasa Web Sync in Accounts&Sync00:02
stinebdwho the hell gives a crap about picasa00:03
stinebdhonestly00:03
arrrghhheh, i don't really use the feature but i know there's a bug on the tracker on it00:03
rpierce99just turn on instant upload in google+ app00:03
arrrghhhuh00:03
arrrghhhwhat about the other direction00:03
stinebdwhat other direction?00:03
rpierce99why would you want to download pictures to your phone, that's dumb00:03
rpierce99i don't put pictures onto my camera00:04
arrrghhhlol00:04
arrrghhhi guess you don't show pictures to your friends...00:04
arrrghhhoh wait, you're a mac user.  you have no friends.00:04
rpierce99way to take the mac thing and apply it to anything and everything regardless of any actual relation00:05
stinebdlol arrrghhh00:06
stinebdyou have fan mail00:06
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Fudgelol00:08
arrrghhhrpierce99, you just seem like such an avid mac phanboi, surely all your friends got sick of it long ago :P00:13
Fudgesome mac stuff is really good00:15
Fudgelike the stability00:15
arrrghhhthat's from BSD00:16
arrrghhhnot mac00:16
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arrrghhhmac wasn't close to being considered stable until after OS900:16
Fudgecant argue with that00:19
stinebdarrrghhh: i'll put up another image with gallery3d tomorrow00:25
stinebdit's getting late and i got some action to not get00:25
arrrghhhnp00:26
arrrghhhstinebd, what about the fandangled new market?00:26
arrrghhhthere's like 2 new markets.00:26
arrrghhh...like totally00:26
stinebduntil "they" package up some new gapps for froyo, i can't do anything about it00:27
arrrghhhoic00:27
arrrghhhi thought that was targeted for both gb and froyo00:27
stinebdnope, the cm7 package dies spectacularly on froyo00:28
stinebdthat's part of why i want us to focus on gingerbread after this release00:28
arrrghhhcool00:29
arrrghhhnp00:29
ryannathanshey guys00:30
ryannathanscamera is broeken right?00:36
arrrghhhfor RHOD10000:36
arrrghhhand evidently your trashy 11000:36
arrrghhhseems AUO panel'd RHOD's have messed up cams00:37
arrrghhhthey work in really low light00:37
arrrghhhbut as soon as light hits the aperture, they implode00:37
arrrghhhgo figure, that device would have a different camera setup00:38
arrrghhhdoes yours have a front-facing cam too?00:38
ryannathansfront camera yes00:38
arrrghhhFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU00:38
arrrghhhalthough you have no 3.5mm jack00:38
arrrghhhwhich is way more useful to me.00:39
ryannathanscorrect00:39
arrrghhhi wonder if jb will get the front cam working00:39
ryannathansmy camera works in low light00:39
arrrghhhto my knowledge he hasn't gotten the back one working00:39
arrrghhhryannathans, didn't i just say that00:39
ryannathanswas just confirming ;)00:39
arrrghhhit's a kernel issue too00:39
arrrghhhnot really userland AFAIK00:39
ryannathansahh00:39
arrrghhhso post logs in that boy's thread00:40
arrrghhhsee if he revives himself00:40
ryannathansalready done00:40
ryannathansages ago00:40
arrrghhhin the cam testing thread?00:40
arrrghhhi tried emailing jb, not sure if the email i used was a good one or not.00:40
arrrghhhwasn't about cam tho, i was asking him about his acoustic changes :P00:40
ryannathansyup00:40
ryannathansso i guess all i can do is wait00:42
arrrghhhi guess00:42
arrrghhhyou could always fix it yourself00:43
arrrghhhc'mon guy00:43
arrrghhhfigure out what's wrong :P00:43
ryannathansweb developer != developer00:43
ryannathansxD00:43
* rpierce99 is proof00:43
arrrghhhindeed00:43
arrrghhhi can't fix shit either, so it's cool..00:43
ryannathansanyway, i cant compile anything atm. im on a 1.66ghz netbook00:44
arrrghhhi took some code from acl and hyc and made it work in the rootfs.  w00t.00:44
arrrghhhpoorly, as stinebd will attest to.00:44
ryannathansnice  ;)00:44
arrrghhhbut it worked00:44
arrrghhhlol00:44
arrrghhhcompiling on that would be painful i would imagine00:44
ryannathansim still on hyc's build, has all his changes been merged with frx06 tree and autobuild kernel?00:45
arrrghhhno00:45
arrrghhhhe has many experimental changes00:45
ryannathansI see00:45
arrrghhhlike the acoustic code, not done.00:45
arrrghhhhence me emailing jb00:45
ryannathansgb advertises camera working, does it?00:48
arrrghhhhas for a while00:49
arrrghhhi advertise the hell out of it00:49
arrrghhhi have several dudes on street corners00:50
arrrghhhwith signs00:50
arrrghhhabout XDAndroid00:50
ryannathansahh yeah00:53
ryannathansjust ordered me some room service00:53
arrrghhhmale escorts?00:53
ryannathanshaha00:54
ryannathansbeef burger :D00:54
ryannathansso many damn ladybois in thailand00:55
arrrghhhusually burgers are made from beef.00:55
arrrghhhohfsm00:55
arrrghhhi don't want to know what you're doing with any "ladybois"00:55
ryannathansstaying far away00:56
ryannathansxD00:56
arrrghhhstinebd, so far so good.  Market is acting stupid as usual tho.  On wifi, it hasn't rebooted within Android yet which is a plus - but there's 3 apps that just say "Starting download..." for ... a while now.00:57
arrrghhhbut it managed to download and install 4 updates.00:57
arrrghhhsaw a little popup confirming TB being given root perms00:58
arrrghhhw00t00:58
arrrghhhassuming the liblights stuff is in there, i should test with a kernel that has support for that as well00:59
arrrghhhmake sure it dims all slicklike00:59
arrrghhhoh well, bedtime01:02
arrrghhhg'nite all01:02
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Fudgelol01:55
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proi f**n hate WinMo02:13
proi just wish my sound worked on android then i could get rid of this crap02:13
Fudgepro  why dont you try different kernels?02:27
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proFudge, i have03:00
proi have tried the latest ones03:00
prosame thing03:00
proI just dont know where to start looking03:00
proi have a terminal on the phone now ( and compiled bash 4.1 for arm and for that running ) and i can ssh to my phone, but im not sure what to look at03:01
promy guess is that the sound card module is not loading, i was thinking something like lspci ( but i know there is no pci on this thing ) and then seeing what card it finds and then lsmod to see if its really loading03:13
probut i also only have this phone for 3 days now03:14
proand only saw android about 3 hours after i got the phone, i'll figure it out thuouhg03:14
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smiley-get android sdk03:43
smiley-and the plug the usb cable03:44
smiley-and look at the adb command03:44
prook03:44
proi have the sdk03:44
smiley-adb shell  gives you a shell on the phone03:44
prook cool03:44
smiley-adb logcat     gives you a tail -f   of the logfile03:44
smiley-so if you run that during boot you will see all the logmessages from the bootup03:44
smiley-and dmesg in the shell for the kernel messages03:45
prois there a tutorial or something i can read? cause i typed adb --help and got so much stuff i didnt know where to start03:45
prodo I need to have my sim in to do this?03:45
smiley-no sim needed03:46
smiley-tutorial.. no idea..  I'm learning by trial and error :)03:46
procause im working from home today and the office is calling every 10 mins and I cant 'play' with my phone at the moment but I can use my other one03:46
prook, cool03:46
proi'll charge my other one quick03:46
proi really like this android, if only i could make calls too :D03:47
smiley-sounds works on mine03:48
smiley-but I hardly use the phone as a phone..03:49
proi have an HTC touch HD (blackstone)03:49
smiley-if I could have a SIM with only 3G and no phone number I would be happy ;)03:49
smiley-touch pro 1 here03:49
smiley-raph10003:49
prook03:49
proim still trying to figure all this out never had a 'smart phone' before03:50
smiley-raph100 isnt the fastest phone on the planet..  but it's from 2007 also03:56
smiley-or is it 2008?   can't remember03:56
smiley-I have an Xperia X1 also..  much faster but more unstable03:57
prook, i dont know how old mine is, my friend gave it to me, he has a few iphones and wants me on whatsapp all day, but the phone was never used yet03:57
smiley-ah03:58
smiley-I had a problem with whatsapp03:58
smiley-it did dry the battery very very fast03:58
probut the android is much faster than the winmo thats on there03:58
smiley-same here..  atleast with the TouchFlo3d running on the winmo..03:59
prook, i ran some system info thing i found on marketplace and it killed a full battery in about 30 mins03:59
proand used 6mb of my 3g03:59
proi must set up a wifi AP at home quick too,04:00
proor just use the guy nextdoors one, he has the default password for that make of router :D04:01
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xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Daniele Gaetano C.!04:06
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jacco2Hi there, when I connect my phone to my Linux desktop using USB to charge it, the desktop mounts the SD card. This crashes XDAndroid.05:49
jacco2Is there a setting to ignore mount requests, or something?05:49
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projacco2, what linux you using?06:07
Fudgejacco2  i wasnt aware that you were able to mount the sd whilst in android06:19
Fudgeok here's a question, can android run on linux06:20
Fudgeas i believe  it can run on windblows06:20
proFudge, what do you mean run on linux? it is running on linux06:20
proor do you mean the sdk ?06:20
Fudgeits only using a linux kernel, i mean can you run it inside a real linux install06:21
Fudgeive seen people run android on windows, pc's06:21
prowith the sdk you can?06:21
proyou mean like a 'virtual' phone?06:21
Fudgeyeah pretty well06:22
prook06:22
Fudgewhats sdk, source dev kit06:22
prowell i only use linux and everything is working fine for mw06:22
prowell i only use linux and everything is working fine for me06:22
Fudgeme too06:22
Fudgebut i cant see so it makes getting my droid running again a bit harder06:22
proummm, yeah but it gives you a virtual phone ( you can take an image of your sdcard and use it too )06:23
promine is all great, cept my sound doesnt work, busy figuring that out quick though06:24
Fudgeapparently http://www.usethefuckinggoogle.com/?cx=partner-pub-7949889933715117A7178591449&cof=FORIDA10&ie=UTF-8&q=run+android+in+ubuntu#108806:24
Fudgesounds fun pro , u seem to pick it up pretty fast06:24
Fudgeoh is that link bad?06:24
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proyeah well, i been using linux since jesus was a baby so other than learning the 'android jargon' in right at home on this thing06:25
Fudgesorry about the link06:25
prono problem06:25
proim a big boy06:26
proyou should also try lmgtfy.com06:26
Fudgei didnt actually hear the smart arses link read with the words ran together and was still waiting for it to load06:26
Fudgewhats tha tsite?06:26
proso explain what you trying to do and i'll see if i can help06:26
proits the same kind of thing as usethefuckinggoogle but not as offensive06:27
Fudgeah loL06:27
prohttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+android06:27
Fudgei suspect that maybe the screen calibration came up, but i had a mate here earlier with not much time but i got him to boot android for me and it was setting stuf fup06:28
Fudgei believe06:28
prook06:28
Fudgei lost my old setup but it was unstable06:28
proand it gets to a point and then just stops?06:28
Fudgethen i remembered when my bro-nlaw set it up that  it was o/c'd06:28
Fudgecomplication is pro  i have no usable sight to actually read the screen06:29
proi think i have seen that, you need to have a file called ts-calibration or else after the kernel boots its trying to get you to press some crosses that you cant actually see06:29
Fudgei did grab the file06:29
Fudgeits vibrating couple of time shere so maybe gen.y is booting it06:29
proas in you cant see ( you are seeing impared ) or you just cant see what the screen is saying?06:30
Fudgethe former, blind as a bat, well 2% sight is close enough06:30
prooh, thats gonna be tricky then06:30
Fudgei can see the lines of text on this screen, but not phones06:30
Fudgebut cant read them, hense use screen readers06:30
prooh06:30
Fudgeonce android is setup and i isntall eyesfree shell and get talkback running its ok06:31
prothen download the sdk and you can use it to link to your phone06:31
Fudgethis is vibrating every 10 seconds at the moment06:31
Fudgenot sure what that means06:31
prook, go here06:31
Fudgethe sd card hasnt automounted so guessing its in winmo06:31
proyou on ubuntu hey?06:31
Fudgenot in winmo i mean06:31
Fudgeyeah06:31
pro1 sec06:32
prodownload this http://dl.google.com/android/android-sdk_r12-linux_x86.tgz06:32
Fudgeoh tks :D06:32
proare you ok to work in a console/terminal ?06:33
Fudgeyep06:33
FudgeI use speakup06:33
Fudgeactually its quicker to copy/paste in a console than using normal xwindow keybindings06:34
Fudgei cant cope with gnome-terminal and gnome-orca together, to much lag06:34
Fudge30.8K/s  eta 15m 8s06:34
Fudgeim also throttled loL06:34
prook06:34
Fudgewhen u first set android and it set thigns up was your phone vibrating every 10 or so seconds?06:35
prowell im in south africa, our internet is fraud band06:35
prono mine never did that06:35
Fudgeahaha, i hear its supposed to be really nice there06:35
proin winmo i started the haret then and then it vibrates twice and then a kernel boots06:36
proyeah its a nice country, but there is only one telecoms company so they have a monopoly06:36
Fudgethat sux06:36
proand its a case of take it or leave it06:36
proand cause they think i owe them R10 000 ( about US $ 1500 ) they wont give me service and i have to use some wireless thing thats not very fast06:37
Fudgeno onbudsman?06:38
prowell there is, but the way they want to sort it out is i pay the bill then they will sort out the mistake and refund me06:38
Fudgeis that a lot of money?06:39
Fudgeusd, aud06:39
probut i dont have that kind of money to spend06:39
prousd06:39
Fudgeoh sorry i didnt see the 1500 on the end of ur other line06:39
Fudgethat is a lot06:39
prowhere you from?06:41
proau06:41
Fudgepulled the battery and it doesnt seem to be turning on loL, AU tasmania06:41
prook,06:41
promy one friend is there at the moment, till september (visiting his gf that immigrated there)06:41
Fudgein Tas?06:42
prono sidney i think06:42
Fudgeah rightio06:42
Fudgeok the screen doesnt actually come on and it pulses every 10 seconds, outlook bad06:43
proeven if you reboot it?06:43
prowhat phone is it?06:43
Fudgei pull the battery06:43
Fudgetp2 australia06:43
proi have a touch hd, but i think under the cover just next to the sim/battery there is a little hole with a red button in it, you have to push that with the stylus to reset it06:44
Fudgewith the battery out?06:45
prothen it will boot back into winmo if the android was installed to the sdcard06:45
prommm, not sure, let me check06:45
Fudgedoes it format the scard?06:46
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prono06:46
projust resets back to the winmo06:46
Fudgethink it needs it, its not even turning on again onw06:46
proim just looking for a pic of your phone06:46
Fudgethanks m806:47
prook, if you feel the phone with the cover off there is a battery with the sim under it06:47
Fudgeyup06:47
projust on phone06:48
Fudgenp06:49
prook then you will feel the lens for the camera06:49
projust above the battery, in the middle06:50
proand just below the lens you should feel a little hole06:50
proits the reset, just press that with the stylus or a pen or something06:51
Fudgeso keep the battery in06:53
proyes06:53
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proand just above the battery and below the camera lens will be a little round hole, press that with a pen or a stylus ( if this is the correct phone im looking at in the photo )06:54
Fudgejust trying to find06:55
prook06:55
Fudgei think there is a button under the lense06:57
Fudgewhen the main part of the battery is at the bottom of the phone, looking at the back06:57
proyes thats the one06:58
proif you press that it should reboot back into windows06:59
Fudgehold it in and turn phone or or something?06:59
prono just press it for a few seconds06:59
helicopter88are you talking about softreset button?07:02
Fudgeya07:02
helicopter88you can't find it?07:02
Fudgeim blind and phones doing weird things07:02
helicopter88good :)07:03
Fudgelol07:03
helicopter88http://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hardreset.eu/images/htc_touch_pro_2_hard_reset_soft_reset.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_pro_2_rhodium_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html&usg=__iE43MVp_H1-UFE_njw4jFW1b6VE=&h=164&w=349&sz=11&hl=it&start=1&sig2=mCZ67W7TJ9oFXVDmFwhpmA&zoom=1&tbnid=g8UMq8xCobTjmM:&tbnh=56&tbnw=120&ei=hh4gTqiALs3n-gbq_sS2Aw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtouch%2Bpro%2B2%2B07:03
helicopter88i should have shortened the link..07:04
Fudgetheir images of where the reset button is?07:04
helicopter88yes07:04
helicopter88on diamond it was easy to find07:04
prohelicopter88, hes blind as in he cant see07:04
Fudgeok normally i can see the htc splash07:04
Fudgebut now07:04
Fudgewhen i turn the phone on with usb cable plugged in i do not see any splash and it vibrates every 10 seconds07:05
Fudgei restart the phone by simply pulling the batter in this case07:05
helicopter88have you tried bootloader mode and flash/task 29 from here?07:05
helicopter88hold volume down with phone shutted down07:05
Fudgewhilst pushing reset?07:06
helicopter88On diamond it wasn't necessary07:06
helicopter88just remove the battery,put it back and hold volume down till you see a red green and blue screen07:06
helicopter88and white07:07
helicopter88If you're going to do task 29,make sure that you have hard spl07:07
Fudgehow long07:07
helicopter88a few secs07:08
Fudgedown vol alone?07:08
helicopter88yes07:08
helicopter88to enter bl mode07:08
Fudgeit snot  doing anything, but before it wasnt turning on unless usb was plugged in either07:08
Fudgei dont think its flat, it had full battery earlier07:09
helicopter88You've flashed android to nand,or you're with haret?07:09
Fudgeharet07:09
Fudgeok with lead in the phones booted07:09
Fudgei saw a screen popup and then go away07:10
helicopter88has the phone fallen?07:10
Fudgeyou mean been drpoped?07:10
Fudgedropped07:10
helicopter88yes07:10
Fudgeits been on my desk07:10
Fudgeunless my children got it, ill question them in mornin glol07:10
Fudgethe usb was unplugged07:10
Fudgeso possible i guess07:11
Fudgetheyre very careful usually with tek07:11
Fudgethe screen tha tpopped up was in the middle of the screen similar to size of gen.y07:11
helicopter88so,you can't boot anymore,and you can't access bootloader screen07:11
Fudgeseems that way yeah07:11
Fudgeand it vibrates every ten seconds07:11
helicopter88try to remove the battery and plug in the charger07:12
Fudgedo the down arrow volume again?07:12
helicopter88You can try with it also07:12
* helicopter88 is not a phone fixer,so he's just thinking what could be the cause :)07:12
Fudgenothin07:13
helicopter88does rhod have a led or something similar when chargin?07:14
Fudgethink so yes07:14
Fudgebut not sure where it is, or if i would be able to see it07:14
Fudgei think the battery has to be in the circuit07:14
helicopter88If plugging the charger doesn't do anything even with the battery in07:14
helicopter88probably the battery/charger has problem07:15
proencapsulation ppp07:15
Fudgewell it does do something but what it is who knows loL07:15
Fudgedoes the scren calibration app pulse?07:15
prooh sorry wrong window07:15
helicopter88you mean vibrate?07:15
Fudgeyup07:16
helicopter88as far as i remember no07:16
helicopter88but i'm talking about diamond07:16
Fudgewould it help mayb if removed memcard, if i can find where it is loL07:16
helicopter88under the battery maybe?07:17
Fudgefound it, its hot swappable, half up on left hand side external07:18
helicopter88I can't see why a sdcard can cause those problems07:19
Fudgeso how do u do a hard reset lol07:20
Fudgesame thing with scard out like you say07:20
helicopter88On diamond,i used volume down + ok button in the center of d-pad07:21
Fudgedpad?07:21
helicopter88you don't have it on rhod07:22
Fudgei have four, the middle one is a rocker07:22
helicopter88Rhod has arrows for moving as button?07:24
Fudgeslide qwerty07:24
Fudgethat what you mean?07:24
helicopter88diamond doesn't have a hardware kb,but we had hardware buttons for moving in the pages..07:25
helicopter88http://phonerpt.com/wp-content/uploads/htc-touch-diamond-navi-wheel-close-up.jpg07:25
Fudgeill have to wait till someone can tell me what is happening on the screen07:26
Fudgethanks for trying to help though07:26
helicopter88so i used volume down + the ok button(inside the wheel) to hard reset07:26
helicopter88i'm here to help07:26
helicopter88press and hold the TALK/SEND, END and POWER07:27
helicopter88found how to hr on rhod07:28
Fudgecant get it to do anything accept turn on and vibrate07:31
helicopter88I really can't help you more,sorry07:32
Fudgethats ok, ill let u know how i go though :)07:32
proFudge, dont throw it away, if it vibrates a lot and you have a girlfriend....07:33
FudgeloL, she is overseas ahaha07:33
Fudgecost me 400aud when i bought it 2nd hand07:33
Fudgebut that wasnt long after tp2 was released07:33
helicopter88pro: lol07:33
Fudgewell if its screwed ill buy an actual native droid phone07:35
Fudgethought i read about a 2.8gig phone07:36
FudgeGHZ07:36
proyeah, i want to get a galaxy now with android on it, but im poor so i'll just have to hack this blackstone07:37
Fudgeare u able to dump me a couple of specs?07:43
Fudgeqwerty? ram, cpu-freq xx/xx res07:43
proof what? the blackstone?07:44
Fudgegalaxy07:44
Fudgethey dont have a qwerty if i remember  correctly07:44
helicopter88galaxy s,no hw kbd,1 ghz07:44
helicopter88and wvga07:44
prooh that i dont know, i just heard on an advert on the radio someone won one of those and an ipad 2 in a call in comp after the advert07:45
FudgeloL07:45
promy gf will hit me in the head with a rock if i get a samsung though07:46
procause she has been saying samsung is the best for years and i have always hated them ( just the OS not the hardware )07:47
proand her last 4 phones have been samsung and i always complain how crap they are07:47
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Fudgethey used to make good burners, one of this cd  burner with big cache07:50
proyeah i never liked the OS on the phones though, like her one phone had infared, bluetooth and a usb cable but you couldnt copy pictures off using any of those, i had to mms them all to my phone ( motorola ) to save them07:57
Fudgeyou know though this project could always put in build process a talk back kick back enabled image to atract more blindies08:09
FudgeI reckon Goole would like that, they do heaps of accessibility stuff if u look around08:10
Fudgegoogle08:10
Fudgecant figure out how to create a system with sdk08:28
proyou have to down load them first08:35
Fudgecan i use what i have already for this project/08:36
pronot sure? i only played with it for about 10 mins08:37
prowhat i did was run android binary08:37
prothen i went into available packages and installed them08:38
prowell all the ones in the android repository08:38
pronot the third party ones08:38
proand then went to virtual devices and just made a new one08:39
Fudgesounds easy enough08:42
Fudgesays a target must be selcted08:50
Fudgeselected08:50
prothen select the type of android you want to play with08:56
prousually a 2.2 is good08:56
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Fudgei couldnt access the pull down box though08:58
Fudgeanother thing to wait for eyes!!!08:58
Fudgen ni08:58
Fudgeni ni08:58
procant you get surgery or something to fix your eyes?09:00
Fudgenah its my retina that has basically gone09:01
Fudgewell bluetooth or some kind of technology sometime will help improve them, bypassing the retina09:01
prook09:02
promy dad had a detached retina, he cant see out that eye now09:02
EodunIf the optic nerve or visual brain is intact, there is hope09:06
Eodunlong-time hope though09:07
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Jackson^Calixtohelp?09:35
proyes please09:36
procan you make me a sammich and a cup of coffee... thanks09:36
Jackson^Calixtoproblem on run emulator...09:42
Jackson^Calixto[2011-07-15 10:45:45 - Emulator] invalid command-line parameter: de.09:46
Jackson^Calixto[2011-07-15 10:45:45 - Emulator] Hint: use '@foo' to launch a virtual device named 'foo'.09:47
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SpecR_hey mates, I wander how I can contribute to the XDAndroid project, so any suggestions will be welcomed10:48
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helicopter88SpecR: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page check the contribute part10:50
SpecRok, I will10:51
SpecRIf its donating money, I'm screwed :)10:51
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helicopter88No10:51
helicopter88No money involved :)10:51
SpecRgood :)10:52
SpecRWell, Im not programmer, though I made some linux-sockets-programming back in the day10:54
helicopter88You asked how to contribute,and i linked you that site10:55
SpecRright10:55
proso then if you cant code give us money :D11:02
proim just kidding11:02
pro:D11:02
SpecRhehe11:02
proif you have sisters (18+ years old) i have another plan.....11:03
pro*GriN*11:03
projust kidding again11:03
SpecRIf I had you probably wouldnt know what to do when in her presence11:06
SpecRim just kidding :)11:06
ryannathanscontribute - donate phone. xD11:17
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|Jeroen|or share hot sisters phone number11:25
proor send hot sisters smartphone ( leave all her noodie pix on the sd card when you send it )11:26
pro:D11:26
|Jeroen|yeah good idea11:27
pro./clear b4 my gf sees this and beats me like a daaawg11:28
|Jeroen|lol is she that evil?11:31
prono, im just not allowed to disrespect girls11:32
|Jeroen|ow, a feminist11:32
prono11:33
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arrrghhhlol11:45
ryannathanslol11:55
ryannathansouch11:55
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SpecRI'd like to start programming in order to contribute with xdandroid12:41
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ryannathansgo ahead xD13:29
ryannathansJava, C13:29
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Tandyman100oh lord14:13
Tandyman100my sister is buying a cheapass feature phone14:13
Tandyman100and bitching to me asking what she wants14:14
Tandyman100rather, what a good phone is14:14
stinebddo a search on engadget for KIRF phones and tell her to buy the first result14:14
stinebdhttp://www.engadget.com/2011/04/25/keepin-it-real-fake-nckias-n-gage-knockoff-harkens-back-to-a/14:15
stinebdthere you go14:15
stinebdthat one14:15
stinebdlooks amazing14:15
Tandyman100lolz14:17
Tandyman100Right now she's looking at some $15 motorola14:17
Tandyman100noway, it's a Samsung14:17
Tandyman100nowait*14:17
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arrrghhhTandyman100, why do you care14:46
arrrghhhjust let your sister buy some junk.  not like you have to support it.  tell her she's on her own.14:47
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arrrghhhugh14:49
arrrghhhquit stealing your neighbor's internet.14:49
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Jerk|7540Our wireless gateway just got here15:01
Jerk|7540I'm setting it up15:01
Jerk|7540:315:01
Jerk|7540internet should be active in a day or two15:01
Jerk|7540[13:46] <arrrghhh> Tandyman100, why do you care15:01
Jerk|7540[13:46] <arrrghhh> just let your sister buy some junk.  not like you have to support it.  tell her she's on her own.15:01
Jerk|7540because I will have to support it15:01
Jerk|7540I'm the 'tech guy' in the family15:01
Jerk|7540I get bitched at if I don't help with everyone's issues15:01
fishingmedicjust play dumb and break it, they wont ask again15:04
arrrghhhseriously15:05
arrrghhh^^15:05
Jerk|7540I tried that15:05
Jerk|7540my mom started screaming at me for playing dumb ._.15:05
fishingmedicwork smarter not harder tandyman, you will learn as you get older, there's ways around crap like that lol15:05
Jerk|7540heh15:05
Jerk|7540my sister started basically insisting I put in a ton of work to find her the best and cheapest possible phone for texting.15:06
Jerk|7540I didn't want to, so I said I don't know shit about feature phones.15:06
Jerk|7540Then they both go full retard and insist I know everything about everything and I'm being a lazy fucktard for not helping her.15:06
fishingmedictell her to get an Iphone and leave you alone15:07
arrrghhhJerk|7540, you gotta learn how to work it15:08
arrrghhhor not work it15:08
fishingmedicbetter yet, tell her to buy a TP2, then tell her you bricked it on her, she's SOL and ship it to one of the dev's to keep working on the project ;)15:08
arrrghhhi help my family with computers, but they're on their own with phones.15:08
arrrghhhLOL15:08
Jerk|7540heh15:09
arrrghhhJerk|7540, is your sister older?15:09
Jerk|7540Younger.15:09
arrrghhhaw.15:09
arrrghhhyou're kinda SOL there.15:09
Jerk|7540^15:09
Jerk|7540She's SOL if she starts bitching again.15:09
arrrghhhmy sister is older, so i could get out of *some* of that crap.15:09
Jerk|7540heh15:10
Jerk|7540My sister is a huge airhead.15:10
arrrghhhi couldn't really get out of helping my sister with computer stuff15:10
arrrghhhall sisters are...15:10
Jerk|7540She's worse, actually.15:10
arrrghhhin other words, all women are15:10
Jerk|7540She's an airhead who *thinks* she knows everything.15:10
arrrghhhohgod15:10
arrrghhhthe worst kind15:10
Jerk|7540she doesn't know. what. diesal. fuel. is.15:10
stinebdnot all sisters are airheads15:10
fishingmedicis that the God with a capital G Arrrghhh????15:10
stinebdjust the younger ones15:10
Jerk|7540heh15:10
stinebdmy older sister is very nearly as smart as i am. in fact we keep trying to convince each other to get a masters degree15:11
Jerk|7540I swear, at least seven times during our trip to Niagra my dad sarcastically said to my sister "GEE IT MUST BE NICE TO KNOW EVERYTHING" after she insists her blatantly wrong idea of how things work is, in fact, correct.15:11
fishingmediclol15:11
fishingmedicif I took a trip to Niagara with my sister, I swear that bitch would go over the falls without a freaking barrel15:12
fishingmedicI'd push her ass over15:12
Jerk|7540lol15:12
Jerk|7540I'd push her over with a barrel.15:12
Jerk|7540Providing it had inward-facing spikes inside.15:12
stinebdarrrghhh: new image up, gallery3d totally untested15:13
stinebdin fact i should check to make sure it's actually in the image15:13
Jerk|7540Wait, wait.15:13
Jerk|7540Stine is posting something RELAVENT to the channel topic?15:13
Jerk|7540UNHEARD OF!15:13
Jerk|7540This is BLASPHEMY!15:14
stinebdyeah it's in there, but so is the old gallery15:14
stinebdi'll make installclean for the release image so don't worry about it15:14
stinebdfor gallery3d we're looking for no crashes on rotate, specifically on raph where we had the most issues15:15
stinebdnot only crashes, the scrambled screen thing15:15
Jerk|7540hm15:15
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arrrghhhcrap i gotta see if my buddy brought his old 800 in15:19
stinebdnot a big deal, if it's still a bug you might be able to repro on rhod15:20
stinebdif not i'll try it in about an hour or so15:20
arrrghhhk15:20
stinebdremind me to close bug 111 after release15:20
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=111 enhancement, Normal, ---, developers, NEW , FRX06 Backports for Gallery3D and Phone15:20
arrrghhhevidently my rhod died15:20
arrrghhhawesome15:20
arrrghhhk15:21
stinebdactually i'll write the bug # in the changelog too15:21
Tandyman100Also, I'm going to go shove the wide end of a rake up the butt of 2Wire15:22
arrrghhh2Wire suxxxors15:22
Tandyman100^15:22
Tandyman100And of course, that's what these AT&T internet gateway thigns are15:23
Tandyman100massive modem/router combos made by 2Wire15:23
stinebdif everything is okay with this image, i'm going to build the release image, throw it up for some last-minute testing and we'll do a release tonight15:23
stinebdok?15:23
arrrghhhsounds good15:23
hycwohooo15:23
arrrghhhTandyman100, don't get DSL15:23
arrrghhhyou tool15:23
stinebdbtw how's the keymap looking?15:23
arrrghhhi didn't test every key/fn15:24
arrrghhhbut it worked from what i could tell15:24
stinebddon't need that kind of testing really15:24
hycstinebd: how did you fix rotation in gallery3D?15:24
stinebdjust need to make sure all the distinct input devices work15:24
stinebdhyc: see the link to the commit in bug #111 if gitorious is working15:24
hyccool15:24
stinebdhttp://bugs.xdandroid.com/11115:25
stinebdstupid bot15:25
stinebdwait to back me up there15:25
stinebdway*15:25
stinebdback soon15:25
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arrrghhhstinebd, remember those cocoa puffs browie bite thingys?  my gf made rice krispie treats with them... zomg.15:35
Tandyman100arrrghhh what's wrong with DSL? Because money. Because none of it. Because mom already ordered DSL.15:36
arrrghhhmoney?15:37
arrrghhhcable is cheaper (for me)15:37
arrrghhhyour mom insists you help with tech shit15:37
arrrghhhthen doesn't ask when she orders internet...15:37
arrrghhhlol15:37
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Tandyman100she didn't ask when she bought a phone, either15:46
Tandyman100which is why she has an Optimus C15:46
Tandyman100}:A15:47
Tandyman100erm15:47
Tandyman100wong window15:47
Tandyman100wrong*15:47
emwerelease tonight? hm...ok.15:54
arrrghhhemwe, you got a problem, boy?15:56
arrrghhh:P15:56
emwearrrghhh: nah. surprised it get's that pacy now. :P15:56
arrrghhhLOL15:56
arrrghhhhow long have we been kicking it around?15:56
emwewas about to test some gps stuff on froyo. but htat can wait for frx0815:56
emweyah, let it off and be done.15:57
emweis raph keypad fixed?15:57
arrrghhhindeed15:57
arrrghhhwhat's wrong with it?15:57
arrrghhhor are you talking about that line in rootfs15:57
emwelikely...15:57
emwenavipad didn't work15:57
arrrghhhwha?!15:57
emwewrong keypad file or something. fell back to "stock" whatever.15:57
arrrghhhoh15:57
arrrghhhyea, that's a line in rootfs15:57
arrrghhhIIRC it's fixed.15:58
emweyap, ok.15:58
emwebah, is that second image broken?15:58
arrrghhhit seems to be...15:58
emwenah, its ext215:58
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arrrghhhit almost appears like he uploaded the ext215:58
emwejust named zip. twice the size15:59
arrrghhhand gave it a .zip extension15:59
emweyap15:59
arrrghhhindeedy.15:59
emwesystem-FRX07-20110715.zip: Linux rev 0.0 ext2 filesystem data15:59
arrrghhhfffffffuuuuuu chrome15:59
stinebdlol fail15:59
stinebdsorry15:59
stinebdi forgot a piped command in there15:59
emweheyho bryan.15:59
arrrghhhha, nbd15:59
emwejust push all you stuff to gito so that i can build my own image.16:00
arrrghhhdeal with the binaries16:00
emweand btw... i regret not having tried jit earlier on jb.16:00
stinebdeverything but the manifest is in git now16:00
emweon gb i mean16:00
arrrghhhjit works on gb?16:00
arrrghhhi mean jit works on froyo16:00
emwenot broken/frozen/resetted yet16:00
arrrghhhbut it blows stuff up16:00
emwenot blwon up yet. dunno how :)16:00
stinebdi think the only major issue we had with jit was the volume nonsense16:00
stinebdwhich was still an issue on gb when i tried it forever ago16:00
stinebdmaybe a kernel change mitigated it since16:01
emwei have a volumen nonsense. ringtone is ultra low and i can't change incall speakervol on rhod... but that's likely a rhod+acoustic thingy.16:01
stinebdthe jit issue was that if you spammed volume keypresses it would crash android16:02
stinebdlike say you wanted to mute the phone, keep your finger on vol down and it would kill it16:02
emwefine here. but i drive a quite different setup then from where those setups stem from16:03
emweno .27+froyo16:03
emweman, these rhod speakers are good16:03
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stinebdyeah16:04
arrrghhhemwe, with new acoustic it goes LOUD16:04
stinebdthe earpiece in particular is amazing16:04
arrrghhhbut volume control seems busted in new acoustic16:04
arrrghhhvolume level displayed in userland doesn't seem to match up with actual volume...16:04
emwearrrghhh: ah you got that too? ok. incall earpiece vol isn't changeable imho16:04
emwebug it seems16:04
arrrghhhisn't changeable?16:05
arrrghhhoh... it seemed to be changing16:05
emwei can't change it. always same level16:05
emwehm...16:05
arrrghhhperhaps it was the drugs.16:05
arrrghhhit definitely didn't seem right.16:05
emweheh16:05
emweand that panel suspend on calls is strange. have to use pwr button to get display back16:05
emweis that intended?16:05
emwe(on gb)16:05
arrrghhhi don't think so16:06
arrrghhhi have all sorts of issues answering calls16:06
emwephone app takes ages to load16:06
arrrghhhpanel very rarely wakes & displays a call in time for me to answer16:06
arrrghhhall the while it's ringing & vibing16:06
arrrghhhyes16:06
emweyap16:06
arrrghhhphone.apk is a dog.16:06
emweand all this hogginess started when jonpry and Detule starting figuring these sluggishnesses.16:06
emwewish they had never started... all was fine for me before :PO16:07
arrrghhhso they're to blame?16:07
arrrghhhlol16:07
stinebdarrrghhh: that cereal rocks btw16:07
emwethe onyl similiarity i can see is the smd/tty fixes ... but i doubt it's related.16:07
stinebdbut they don't sell it at my grocery store16:07
arrrghhhstinebd, it's awesome.16:07
arrrghhhrice krispie treats with it is even better16:07
arrrghhhaw...16:07
emwei read monsanto+corn from your words guys :P16:07
emweman, that movie impressed me. sorry. bon apetite.16:08
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arrrghhhheh16:08
arrrghhhemwe, still haven't watched it16:08
stinebdwhich movie?16:08
emwefood inc.16:08
stinebdah16:08
arrrghhhsome depressing documentary on how the US is fucking everything up16:08
stinebdit's on the premium movie channels but i haven't watched it16:08
arrrghhhlike most documentaries.16:08
emweran on a 3rd programme here16:09
stinebdlisten, if it gets me off this mortal coil any faster, i'm all for it16:09
arrrghhhlol16:09
emweone following it's educational task from the non-private ones.16:09
emwesomeone remind me i need to push this kernel stuff on release.16:11
stinebdwhat do you have that requires frx07?16:11
emwethat stuff from hyc.16:12
emweone sec16:12
arrrghhhyea16:12
arrrghhhthe keyboard light stuff16:12
arrrghhhand i guess there's an associated patch that fixed the landscape-on-boot issue.16:13
emweyap16:13
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emwec806571 Fix clamshell initial state16:14
emwe271a6b7 Use variable keyboard backlight brightness16:14
emwea951ef7 Drop keyboard backlight triggering16:14
stinebdbut i don't really see what the first one needs frx07 for16:15
arrrghhhi guess they're dependent on eachother16:15
emwestinebd: might be the other way around i think.16:16
stinebd?16:16
emweman, now let me figure again how it was... one sec...16:17
stinebdboy i'm glad i'm not the only one who confuses himself16:17
arrrghhhlol16:17
emwewithout config.xml change, the kernel patches didn't work. dunno if the other way around works. new kernel old release.16:17
emwewe'll see16:17
emwebtw: cat: can't open '/proc/kmsg': Permission denied16:17
emweanyone can reproduce?16:18
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emweadb wait-for-device shell cat /proc/kmsg16:18
stinebdteehee16:18
stinebdyou need su now baby16:18
emweyou can su'ck my balls now. what?16:18
arrrghhhlol16:18
emwenow doN#t tell me i have to confirm every adb access in ui now?16:19
stinebdnot every16:19
stinebdmake sure "remember" or whatever is checked16:19
emweso just a place a su?16:19
stinebdthen you only need it once16:19
stinebdadb wait-for-device shell su cat /proc/kmsg16:19
stinebdalternatively you could keep a local fork of rootfs and edit init.etc/default.prop, set ro.secure=016:20
emweadb wait-for-device shell su cat /proc/kmsg << doesn't work for me16:21
emwe07-15 20:21:10.400 W/su      ( 1870): request rejected (0->0 /system/bin/sh)16:21
arrrghhhemwe, have you given it permissions?16:22
arrrghhhyou have to give it perms initially, then it'll remember (if you have that box checked, like stine said)16:22
emweyeah, in that ui pupop16:22
arrrghhhyuppers16:23
arrrghhhthen it shouldn't ask again16:23
emwerevoked, tested again, no go.16:23
arrrghhhshould just grant perms16:23
emweit doesn't ask again16:23
emwemichael@think:~> adb wait-for-device shell su cat /proc/kmsg16:23
emwePermission denied16:23
arrrghhhit shouldn't if you've given it permission...16:23
arrrghhhare you doing this on boot?16:24
emweno, just runs.16:24
emwebut that "on boot" is a concern. going to have ro.secure=0 then as stinebd instructed.16:25
arrrghhhOo16:25
arrrghhhlike i said, it should work after you've given it perms16:25
arrrghhheven on boot16:25
emwewith "just runs" i mean... android is up.16:25
arrrghhhbut i haven't tried.16:25
stinebdnot before android is up16:25
emwethen i am either a bad tester or it doesn't work.16:25
stinebdthe su binary won't allow anything until the app runs16:25
emwero.secure=0 is the state we had before that superuser thingy?16:26
stinebdyeah16:26
emwethen i think i need that :)16:26
stinebdjust edit the file i told you and adb will run as root again16:26
emwethanks.16:27
arrrghhhbummer16:27
emwei need/want logs as quickyl as possible on boot. even that 40sec until adbd is up feels like a century.16:27
emweyeah, navibutton back :)16:28
emwei hear rumors end=home?16:29
stinebdfor rhod16:29
emweok16:29
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Tandyman100Finally16:30
Tandyman100I am now on stable wifi16:30
Tandyman100rejoice16:30
stinebdfree samsung flight for a limited time at att16:30
Tandyman100Translation: free shitty phone for a shitty amount of time from a shitty cell carrier16:31
Tandyman100(I actually know nothing about the flight, I just hate at&t)16:31
stinebdi'm just trying to help your sister16:31
Tandyman100:P16:31
Tandyman100oh lol16:31
Tandyman100I thought this was a general suggestion to all of us16:32
arrrghhhthis coming from someone who doesn't have a cell phone on a real carrier...16:32
Tandyman100she just about some $15 crapphone from ebay this morning16:32
Tandyman100fair point, arrrghhh16:32
emweadb wait-for-device shell su -c "cat /proc/kmsg"16:34
emwe^^ worky ^^16:35
emweat least su-ui comes up16:35
stinebdanybody got an android malware apk i could borrow?16:41
arrrghhhlol16:42
stinebdserious request, sir16:43
arrrghhhyou really want to make sure SU works eh?16:43
stinebdthat and the signature permissiosn16:43
stinebdalright gallery3d looks good on raph16:45
emweyap.16:45
Tandyman100lol16:48
emwestinebd: is keyboard backlight turning off for you when sliding out?16:50
stinebdafter 10-15 seconds or so, yes16:50
stinebdwell make that 5 now16:50
stinebdguess she was lagging a bit16:51
emwekernel 1336... did i downgrade? retesting..16:51
hycis this with userland control of kbd light now?16:51
arrrghhhnot pushed yet hyc16:51
stinebd2.6.27.46-01323-g906044416:51
hycok16:51
emwe1340 is that frx07 kernel i posted a while ago.16:52
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emweuh? raph keyboard backlight stays on when not slid-out.17:01
emweand dims when slid.out17:01
arrrghhhstinebd, gallery3d seems great.17:01
stinebdemwe: link me to your kernel17:02
emwemy upload sucks.17:05
emwestinebd: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/kernel-packages/linux-msm-v2.6.27-1340-g2c1d169.zip17:05
stinebdi don't have a topaz17:05
emweok, since when do we sleep when gps is enabled?17:05
emwedl it! :P17:06
emweok, something along the way must have fixed sleep while gps is enabled.17:07
emwedidn't do anything about on gb and surprised it now also sleeps on froyo.17:07
emwethere's one little gps crasher left, though.17:08
emwewhen arm9 dies and pulls the device down with it.17:08
emweapart from that, gps gnav yesterday was fine for ~ 1.5 hours.17:08
stinebdemwe: the only abnormality i see is that the backlight doesn't *immediately* turn off when you close the clamshell17:11
stinebdother than that, it's working fine for me17:11
emwestays on here for 20 secs now when slid-in.17:12
emweslit-in?17:13
stinebddefinitely isn't 20 seconds for me17:13
stinebdjust say closed :P17:13
arrrghhhslide-in17:13
arrrghhhlol17:13
stinebdslid-in is correct17:13
stinebdbut just say closed17:13
arrrghhheh17:13
stinebdalso you should say "near", not "in the near of"17:13
stinebdcrazy german17:13
arrrghhhlol17:14
arrrghhhso g3d looks good17:14
arrrghhhi haz picasa web sync17:14
arrrghhhwhat else to test in this new image?17:14
emwegps sleep?17:14
emwejust that it's not my imagination.17:14
arrrghhhk17:14
arrrghhhfor you emw17:14
arrrghhhemwe,17:14
arrrghhhdamnit17:15
stinebddamn that locked fast17:17
arrrghhhi didn't get a lock17:17
arrrghhhbut it's not sleeping17:17
stinebdnot sleeping for me either17:17
stinebdemwe just imagining things17:17
arrrghhhemwe, this is on your RAPH or..?17:17
emweraph.17:17
arrrghhhhrm17:17
stinebdi'm on raph too17:18
emwelet me get fix and try again.17:18
stinebdlol rebooted17:19
stinebd<3 gps17:19
arrrghhhi've had random SR's with wifi stinebd17:19
arrrghhhi haven't had time to pull logs17:19
arrrghhhi'm neglecting this doc :/17:19
stinebdwtf is sr17:19
arrrghhhsudden reboot17:19
arrrghhhsorry17:19
arrrghhhblame jonpry17:19
emwestinebd: yap, that's the thing left with gps. i times out waiting for data to send off to userland. then it tries to query chip again after 5 seconds timeout and that is what he doesn't like.17:20
emwei am thinking about deinit and reinit of gps-rpc in that scenario.17:21
emwei am relieved topa still has some work to do in that respect and isn't totally paperweight.17:21
hycpretty sure my kbd light patches only affected rhod. possibly kovsky.17:22
hychm, no. never mind17:23
hycit should create /sys/class/leds/keyboard-backlight on all devices17:23
emwewho knows. we'll get back to it.17:25
emweok, so now after gps activity, no sleep anymore.17:25
emweinit,cleanup,start,stop gps hooks where a bit different on froyo.17:25
arrrghhhbut it's fixxxxored on gb?17:26
emwealready got code "ported" back to froyo. we'll see later on.17:26
emweyah, it's fixed. did nothing to it , though!17:26
arrrghhhlol lies17:26
arrrghhhyou did all sorts of horrible things to it17:26
emwemight be the just mentioned hook code differences17:26
emwewe'll see17:26
emwewe need something for frx08 :P17:26
arrrghhhlol17:26
arrrghhhacoustic17:26
emweok, gotta pickup gf just arriving.17:27
emwebrb.17:27
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stinebdarrrghhh17:39
arrrghhhstinebd17:39
stinebdhttp://files.xdandroid.com/.releng/system-FRX07.ext2.zip17:39
stinebdrelease image17:39
arrrghhhOo17:39
arrrghhhso i can bundle this beast up and release it to the masses?17:40
stinebdthat's what's going out, pending a final test17:40
arrrghhhk17:40
stinebda couple notes for the bundle17:40
hycwoohoo17:40
arrrghhhyessir17:40
stinebd1. my announcements has it named bundle-FRX07.zip17:40
stinebd2. it will need the new rootfs, i can give you an early copy (we don't want it hitting twitter and stuff before the system is out)17:41
stinebd3. you should remove the ring tones and stuff from the media directory17:41
arrrghhhi was going to keep the naming convention...17:44
arrrghhhbut you're the boss :P17:44
stinebdthe naming convention blows17:44
arrrghhhput the rootfs on .releng17:44
stinebdif you do that, make it lower case17:44
arrrghhhlol17:44
stinebdand use iso date17:44
stinebd2011071517:44
arrrghhhdoesn't really matter, just nice having the date in thar17:44
arrrghhhk17:44
stinebdthe periods pisses me off17:44
arrrghhhLOL17:44
arrrghhhyes sir.17:44
stinebdlet me know what you name it anyway17:44
stinebdbefore it goes on the mirror17:44
arrrghhhwill do17:44
stinebdi'll build a rootfs quick17:45
arrrghhhhopefully my gf will let me get this done tonight...17:45
Eodungreat... I make a bundle for CWM and it's outdated in 24 hours lol17:45
arrrghhhmight have to chloroform her.17:45
stinebdcareful with the chloroform talk17:45
EodunI know a better way of making gf's shut up17:45
Eodunbut perhaps there are minors here17:46
arrrghhho right17:46
arrrghhhcasey anthony17:46
arrrghhhi g2g17:47
arrrghhhwill build a bundle when i get home (hopefully) and ping ya sir stine before i u/l.17:47
stinebdi'll have a new rootfs up there for you17:48
arrrghhhcool17:48
arrrghhhthx17:48
arrrghhh:D17:48
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Eodunone question, what's the best way of getting the differences between th17:48
Eodunsorry17:49
Eodunbetween the FRX07 system and 06?17:49
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Eodundiff would do the trick?17:49
stinebdif you feel like running a diff on a 2GB source tree, sure17:49
Eodunno, just the uncompressed build17:50
Eodunthe system, in fact17:50
stinebdyou'll be diffing binaries so that won't work17:50
Eodunand to compare dirs?17:50
EodunI want to make an update.zip17:50
Eodunlike arrrghhh did before17:51
stinebd-rw-r--r-- 1 bryan bryan 1.8M Jul 15 17:53 update-FRX07.zip17:53
stinebdlike one of those?17:53
stinebdif whatever you released uses the system image from FRX06 verbatim, that update should work for you17:54
Eodunyeeeeah!17:54
EodunI just repacked frx06 to install with CWM17:54
stinebdwell it checks hashes so if you edited anything it won't work17:55
stinebdand you're on your own then to create an update.zip17:55
EodunI know17:55
Eodunnp17:55
stinebdhowever you can use that zip to see which files changes17:55
Eodunnot even opened files17:55
stinebdchanged*17:55
Eodunso hashes should be identical17:55
stinebdit'll be going on the mirror along with everything else when we release17:56
Eodunyou guys are the best17:56
Eodunthat's it, my first donation18:01
Eodunshould have done that before18:01
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emwestinebd: my thanks for getting that thing tied together.18:05
stinebdwhat thing?18:06
emweFRX0718:06
stinebddon't thank me18:06
stinebdit was you and alex and hyc18:06
prodoes the sound on a blackstone work correctly on frx7?18:06
emwedon't undervalue pulling all the patches together. imho that's a tedious thing to do.18:07
emwepro: nobody knows.18:07
stinebdsound on blackstone seems like it would be a kernel issue, no?18:07
emwelikely.18:07
proi dont think so cause if i reboot some times it works18:08
hycand frx07 doesn't have the new libacoustic stuff anyway18:08
probut i dont really know what to check for18:08
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emwepro: is there some active developer for blac?18:09
stinebdhyc1: pm me your paypal email please18:09
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stinebdemwe: you too18:10
proi dont know?18:11
proi dont know much, just started18:11
emwepro: perhaps you can ask around in the forums on xda and get ahold of someone. or someone temtped to donate his device.18:11
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proyou mean someone could donate a device to me?18:13
emwepro: i rather meant someone who wan'ts to donate it to a developer. you already got a blac if i understand correctly :)18:14
stinebdhyc: check your inbox, and thanks again for everything18:14
prooh, ok18:14
proi though you meant someone will give me a device that actually works so i can dev on it18:15
hyccool.....18:15
probut what better way to learn than to start in the deep end18:15
pro:D18:15
hycholy crap18:15
proanyway, i need to go shower bbl18:15
hycwith that I can go buy a new phone :P18:16
rpierce99damn you stinebd!18:16
stinebdemwe: check yours too18:16
emwedon't dare!18:16
prohyc, emwe, you guys want to donate your old devices to a needy? *GriN*18:17
hycok, mebbe I'll buy that 24" monitor I was thinking about instead.18:17
rpierce99yeah, something to help you write code faster!18:17
hyc:D18:17
emwesheesh! stinebd, thanks!18:17
stinebdthe money's gotta go somewhere :D18:18
emwepro: no, i rahter meant somebody - a user - donating his old phone to a developer so it can be fixed/supported.18:18
hychow many 1cent donations are in this one ;)18:18
stinebdand please don't thank me, that money is all from the users18:20
emwearrrrgh: please add my thanks to release page. think the others would chime in there with me ;)18:21
emweoh, it's so difficult to figure his nick spelling when he's off.18:21
stinebd3 r's, 3 h's18:21
rpierce99only one tougher is manekineko18:22
emwewasn't that manekino? getting old.18:22
hyclol18:22
stinebdmanaconda18:22
emwestinebd: i assume that kernel patches can slowly go out, no?18:41
stinebdyeah18:41
emwebedtime soon.18:41
stinebdbest to push it now so arrrghhh can put it in the bundle18:42
stinebdif autobuild is working18:42
stinebdi haven't checked gitorious lately18:42
stinebdlooks like it's back up18:42
emwepushed.18:43
emwewow, event the main page updated quite fast.18:43
emwesometimes takes a bit until commits are listed there as well18:44
emwearrrghhh: you probably thought of it already... it shouldn't hurt bundling the updated haret binary.18:46
xdandroidNew kernel available (20110716_005117) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110716_005117-package.tar.bz219:02
hycyay, soft kbd backlight fade ;)19:08
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emwehaha19:13
emwei expect a g+ announcement later today :)19:13
hycheh.19:14
Fudgearrrghhh  think my device was knocked of fmy desk19:14
hycfacebook too? don't think I've gone back to that page ever since I stumbled onto it19:14
stinebdi don't have access to the facebook page19:14
emwefb is dead.19:15
stinebdheh19:15
emwei mean, it was never alive because i had no account there.19:15
stinebdtheir pathetic 750 million user count19:16
arrrghhhlol19:17
stinebdarrrghhh!19:18
arrrghhhbundling now19:18
arrrghhhwork just called tho, dicks.19:18
arrrghhhwanting me to do stuff and not get paid for it, as usual.19:18
rpierce99so are we19:18
stinebdarrrghhh: checked your gmail lately?19:18
arrrghhhrpierce99, lol19:19
arrrghhhmy gmail?19:19
arrrghhhnothin new19:20
stinebdno?19:20
stinebdgmail.com gmail, not xdandroid19:20
arrrghhhi'm in it right now19:20
arrrghhhoh19:20
arrrghhhi saw that at work19:21
arrrghhhyea dude, that was a surprise :D thanks!19:21
stinebdthank the users19:21
arrrghhhthey have been donating still19:21
arrrghhhwhich is awesome19:21
emweyeah19:21
arrrghhhi keep a giant donate to XDAndroid link in all my threads19:21
arrrghhhi guess i should make a new thread for 0719:22
arrrghhhi usually just change the crap in the old thread lol19:22
Tandyman100didn't you just start doing that last month?19:22
arrrghhhwhat19:22
hycjust post a link to the new thread in the frx06 thread and then close it19:22
arrrghhhi can't close threads, i'm not a fancy pants dev like you hyc :P19:23
hycor ask a mod to close it I guess19:23
Tandyman100Putting hueg donate links in your threads19:23
arrrghhhja19:23
arrrghhhTandyman100, noes19:23
hyc;)19:23
arrrghhhit's been thar for several months19:23
arrrghhhthere was always a donate link too, i just made it biggar19:23
emweyou +1'd it?19:24
stinebdemwe obsessed with g+19:24
arrrghhhha19:24
emwelol, no.19:24
Fudgeany of u guys know why my phone would turn on, only when plugged in and vibrate every 10 seconds19:24
Fudgethink only the splash is appearing19:24
emweso i gtg. have fun peeps.19:25
stinebdnight emwe19:25
emweand thanks to the users :)19:25
Fudgecya19:25
emwenight19:25
arrrghhhg'nite19:26
arrrghhhFudge, sounds like you killed your batt19:26
hycHTC bummer http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=510919:27
stinebdgotta fix the patent system here19:28
hyctotally19:28
Fudgeit was sitting on  my desk, children knocked it off19:28
stinebdapple yesterday filed applications for a "hinge mechanism" and an "anti-tangle headphone cord system"19:28
stinebdwell they weren't filed yesterday, but they were made public yesterday19:29
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stinebdthe hinge mechanism is for the imac which mostly TVs would infringe on and nobody cares about anyway, and the anti-tangle thing was for multi-layer rubber core wires that at least 4 or 5 other companies already use19:30
stinebdand of course it'll be accepted19:30
hycbrilliant19:30
stinebdat least it's marginally effective19:31
stinebdi had some sennheisers that had that kind of cord, they're a bit thicker but they don't tangle nearly as easily and you can't hear bumps through the wire as well19:32
hycah, well that's a nice feature. anti-microphoning...19:32
stinebdi fear they'll stop making them once apple gets the patent... because apple loves to use their patents19:33
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Fudgearrrghhh  perhaps somethign damaged with internal storage?19:40
Fudgephone could be trying to contulously boot19:40
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arrrghhhFudge, dunno dude19:50
arrrghhhi've only heard that happening when the bootloader is f-ed up and doesn't let the phone charge when off19:50
arrrghhhhappened to a few people that flashed NAND19:50
arrrghhhand rarely to people still on winmo19:53
arrrghhhnot sure why it would effect winmo, but it has before.19:53
arrrghhhstinebd, so i should make that MMS page hmmm?19:53
arrrghhhso users have a central place to go to check APN info19:53
stinebdyeah19:53
arrrghhhk19:54
stinebdhow's that bundle doing?19:59
arrrghhhgreat20:02
arrrghhhwas just going to ask what you want before i up it?20:03
stinebdfilename20:04
arrrghhhoic20:04
stinebdgotta know where my links are going20:04
arrrghhhFRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.201120:05
arrrghhhlol jk20:05
arrrghhhFRX07_Full_Bundle_2011715.zip20:06
arrrghhhis that acceptable?20:06
arrrghhhFRX07_Full_Bundle_20110715.zip?20:07
stinebdyeah20:10
stinebdso you can start pushing it20:12
arrrghhhk20:13
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stinebdi'll start pushing the git stuff and the incremental update20:14
arrrghhhslowly uploading20:16
arrrghhhi think i have this key on my server.... oh well.20:17
stinebdhow big is this bundle?20:17
stinebdshould be quite smaller than frx0620:17
arrrghhh87mb20:17
stinebdhmm20:18
arrrghhh85mb vs 9220:18
stinebdring tones are that small?20:18
arrrghhhyea20:18
arrrghhhmedia is only 9mb20:18
stinebdlame20:18
arrrghhhlol20:18
stinebdrelease manifest pushed20:18
arrrghhhk20:19
arrrghhhbuilding mah posts now20:19
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stinebdhow long you think it'll take the bundle?20:19
arrrghhhlittle less than 10 mins20:23
stinebdwell i'm going to bed so we'll do the release some time next week then20:23
stinebdKIDDING20:23
arrrghhhlolol20:23
arrrghhhi'd still release it20:23
stinebdsure, then tiad could report you for not providing source code and get you banned20:23
arrrghhhyea cuz everything posted on XDA has source....20:24
stinebdalmost everything20:24
Fudgeahahaha20:26
hycunless you wanna reverse-engineer a bunch of proprietary blobs20:27
arrrghhhthis sounds like a job for hyc !20:27
hyc:P20:27
stinebdwe should rewrite the google apps20:27
arrrghhhha20:27
hychehehehe20:27
arrrghhhmake gvoice less dumb plzthx20:28
stinebdusing Py4A20:28
hychm, have they published all the APIs they use?20:28
stinebdnah20:28
hycgvoice is pretty lame on android, yeah20:28
stinebdnot as lame as it is on the other platforms, heh20:28
stinebdhell on winmo you have to use the website20:28
hycI'm pissed off that they shut down grandcentral and gizmo520:29
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hyctheir SIP integration is still basically nonexitent20:30
stinebdarrrghhh: btw i'm making changelog posts on my blargle and the raph and rhod forums in frx0620:31
stinebdshould i hold off on the forums posts until your threads are up?20:31
stinebdor i could give you the bbcode if you want20:32
prois there a site that lists all the different android builds?20:33
arrrghhhgimmie the code pls20:35
arrrghhhmight be a little bit before threads are up, dindin is served20:35
stinebdoops sorry, pm incoming a few seconds ago20:36
arrrghhhlol it's cool20:37
stinebdi'm quite proud of the nested lists20:40
stinebdtook days of research to engineer that20:40
arrrghhhaw20:44
arrrghhhi was going to do a fancy nested list20:44
arrrghhhnot that fancy tho Oo20:44
arrrghhhi need to move it to mirror when it's done and cron'll pick it up right?20:46
stinebdlooks like the bundle is done already20:47
stinebdor do you mean when the thread is done?20:47
arrrghhhno the bundle20:49
arrrghhhthere's a mirror folder20:49
arrrghhhthought i had to move it thar20:49
stinebdyeah20:49
stinebdyou do20:49
stinebdwant me to?20:49
stinebdi'm logged in already20:49
arrrghhhdone20:49
arrrghhhi am as well :P20:49
stinebdgot your threads ready yet?20:49
arrrghhhnot yet20:49
arrrghhhstill eatin20:49
stinebdwell you got 10 minutes before cron kicks it onto the mirror20:50
arrrghhhmeh20:50
arrrghhhthat's fine20:50
arrrghhhi'd rather the link be up before the thread20:50
arrrghhhand no the other way around :P20:50
arrrghhhnot*20:50
stinebdi like it when things happen simultaneously20:51
arrrghhhlol20:51
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arrrghhhah crap21:03
arrrghhhoh well21:03
Fudgesnap to it21:03
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arrrghhhaw it's already outta the mirror dir.21:03
arrrghhhd'oh21:03
arrrghhhi forgot to pull force_cdma outta the startup.txt's21:04
arrrghhhand add a folder for... raph400 i think it was?21:04
arrrghhhsome new raph that 2 people have.21:04
arrrghhhthe force_cdma thing makes me more mad than the RAPH thing.21:04
hycgahh. yeah, gotta get rid of that :P21:05
hycand later mark it obsolete on the wiki etc...21:05
arrrghhhi noes21:05
arrrghhhi mentioned it was deprecated in the changlog i was compiling21:06
arrrghhhand then forgot to remove it... d'oh.21:06
arrrghhhstinebd, too late to pull it back?  :P21:06
stinebddoes force_cdma still do anything?21:06
arrrghhhi guess it won't hurt anything...21:07
arrrghhhbah.  i remembered the user.conf changes i wanted to make21:08
arrrghhhbut spaced the startup.txt ones...21:08
hycmmm, yeah pretty sure it's now a no-op21:08
stinebdit's fine then21:09
stinebdno point reuploading 90MB for that21:09
arrrghhhhrm21:09
arrrghhhi wonder if you calib manually on the newest kernel21:09
stinebd?21:09
stinebdrootfs21:10
stinebdand it's not in there yet21:10
arrrghhhno i know that21:10
arrrghhhi'm talking about the kernel klobbering manual calibration21:10
hycconfirmed: the code for parsing force_Cdma and north_am_dialing is #if 0'd in the ril21:10
arrrghhhcool21:10
stinebdwe done yet arrrghhh?21:11
arrrghhhi think so.  i'm making the threads as we speak21:11
arrrghhhjust occurred to me as i was going thru the thread.21:11
stinebdman i'm gonna sleep well tongiht21:12
stinebdwe finally get this out the door21:13
hycwoohoo!21:13
stinebdyou ever have one of those jobs/projects where you're constantly thinking about what you have to do?21:14
stinebdthat's what frx07 did to me. brain melting21:15
stinebdi hope GRX01 is the same way21:15
stinebdfun stuff21:15
arrrghhhlol21:16
arrrghhhyea this new call center is haunting me21:16
arrrghhhi've been thinking about this release for a loooong time too21:16
arrrghhhhence the reason i'm kicking myself for forgetting the startup.txt changes i wanted to make... d'oh.21:16
hyclol.... yeah, brain melting21:17
stinebdspeaking of grx01 i need to start making the merge list21:17
stinebdwe have a lot of stuff we can forward port21:17
Fudgewhats the atrix like?21:17
stinebdnot bad but i've compromised a fuse on it21:18
stinebdso i don't think i can flash any ota updates now21:18
stinebdi want to make a stock system image for it anyway21:18
stinebdreally can't stand the moto stuff21:19
stinebdi've got their gingerbread test rom to the point where the only moto changes you can see are the theme and the carrier name in the status bar21:19
stinebdplus all the apps still installed21:19
stinebdmaking a proper stock rom will be nice to get rid of all the blur changes21:20
stinebdtheir theme is really pleasant to the eyes but everything else is nasty trash21:20
arrrghhhstinebd, do you have just the system image posted?21:20
stinebdsystem image isn't public yet21:20
stinebdshould i move it to the mirror?21:20
arrrghhhis it up tho?  can you PM me a link?21:20
arrrghhhi link to it in my thread.21:21
hycquick make another blank reply21:25
Fudgehttp://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php21:26
stinebdarrrghhh: i'm gonna make my blarg announcement and retweet it21:26
stinebdand then we're officially live21:26
stinebdalso push the rootfs21:26
arrrghhhhyc, i have to wait 30s between posts :P21:26
arrrghhhkk21:26
hycoops, were you going to make another? I just got in #521:28
stinebdlol21:30
xdandroidNew rootfs available (20110716-8a5419e) at: http://is.gd/5Db0Xa -- Changes at: http://is.gd/2ojp9j21:30
arrrghhhhyc, np21:32
arrrghhhi think that's all i need21:32
arrrghhhthat last one i took will be the caveat list21:32
hyccool21:33
stinebdFRX07 is officially done21:33
hycyay, congratulations all21:34
stinebdthanks again hyc, you were a horse for this one21:34
hycheh, my pleasure. was fun.21:34
arrrghhhstinebd, hyc good work mehn :D21:35
stinebdreally liking the twitter app for android now21:35
stinebdarrrghhh: you too, thanks a lot21:35
arrrghhhnow i need to post 10,000 more threads21:35
arrrghhhmy pleasure!21:35
stinebdthe push updates are really really nice21:36
hyclol... I just edited my last post to the frx06 thread21:36
hycto point to frx0721:36
arrrghhhhaha21:37
stinebdso who's going to start an frx07 thread on tiad8's forums?21:38
* stinebd runs21:38
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hycLOL. rpierce99, right on cue.21:38
rpierce99saywha21:38
hyc:D21:39
stinebdhaha21:39
arrrghhhlolol21:41
rpierce99i hate you guys for releasing this on a night when my wife is dragging me out to a bar, i can't play until tomorrow most likely :(21:42
hycyeah, I'm heading out to carouse now too.21:43
arrrghhhlol21:43
arrrghhhcya guys21:43
stinebdhave fun21:43
stinebdhyc has a lot of money to blow on booze right now ;)21:44
arrrghhhbwhahhahaa21:44
stinebdarrrghhh: pm babijoee to sticky that bastard21:47
arrrghhhyea i never had a sticky in the tp1 section21:48
arrrghhhi got it stickied in the tp2 section...21:48
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rpierce99arrrghhh: you didn't update haret?22:04
arrrghhhno22:04
arrrghhhbroke stupid people's phone's22:04
rpierce99ah22:04
arrrghhhand there's no need22:04
arrrghhhi did think abou tit tho22:05
arrrghhhlol22:05
arrrghhhabout it22:05
Tandyman100lol22:05
Tandyman100how did it break them?22:05
rpierce99i think abou tit all the damn time22:05
Tandyman100and lol tiad8.22:06
* Tandyman100 thinks about tits all the time, too.22:06
Tandyman100SO what's new in FRX07?22:06
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rpierce99touchscreen calibration worked for a second there!22:10
rpierce99if you know the pattern it works22:10
arrrghhhaw poop22:11
arrrghhhoh well i left the caveat22:11
arrrghhhTandyman100, read the thread, ass.22:11
rpierce99yeah it hung up waiting for like 3 seconds then dumped a ton to the screen, tapping the top left where the first point was showed the 2nd point (top right), so i tapped that, 3rd point wasn't visible (middle) but i guessed right and then bottom left and bottom right were visible22:12
rpierce99so it kinda worked22:12
Tandyman100Threads are fantastic things.22:18
Tandyman100the O2 XDA Ignito is just a DIAM100, right?22:19
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Fudgehey arrrghhh22:29
Fudgemy phone was on silent for winmo so no audible feadback22:29
Fudgeerror now booting android is22:29
Fudge/bin/sh cant open tty22:30
Fudgebut it went past it22:31
Fudgepro  :D22:32
Fudgehow to completely baffle a blind person22:32
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Fudgegpio matrix: unmapped key 0-3 (102-122:37
Fudgewhats that?22:37
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Fudgeanything i can try?22:43
Fudgere-rextracted seems to be booting better now23:24
arrrghhhthat sounds good23:38
arrrghhh:D23:38
stinebdit's july23:44
stinebdthat means it's time to nominate for post of the year23:44
stinebdhere's my vote: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15693539&postcount=523:45
arrrghhhlol23:45
arrrghhhwhy did i know that was going to be that post23:45
arrrghhhi read that and thought... wtf.23:45
stinebdshort, simple, to the point23:46
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arrrghhhprobably the most cohernet post that dude's written23:47
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Tandyman100That post is gold.23:57
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