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arrrghhh | hyc, ping | 01:04 |
smiley- | hyc: the raph100 is now on about 70 hours uptime with the smd-patch :) | 01:07 |
arrrghhh | nice | 01:08 |
arrrghhh | well hyc it was re: the whole rev.0 and rev.a thing | 01:10 |
arrrghhh | i'll try to find where it is in winmo to see if i am truly in a rev.a or 0 area. Not sure WinMo even shows that info... | 01:11 |
arrrghhh | and in reality the issue is probably cosmetic | 01:11 |
arrrghhh | i doubt it would affect xfer speeds drastically. | 01:11 |
arrrghhh | if at all for that matter :P | 01:12 |
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hyc | i doubt it makes any difference | 01:49 |
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emwe | hyc: heyho. does this look like a smd tty alloc fix candidate? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/dot35/logs/rhod_ramconsole_last_smdtty_alloc.txt | 04:29 |
emwe | never seen this ever on .35. | 04:29 |
emwe | was with rhod... SOD (but sleeping, not wake). didn't like to wakeup no matter how long i pressed the buttons. neither did wake on ac-plug. | 04:30 |
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smiley- | emwe: I have over 70 hours uptime on my RAPH100 now with latest kernel and hyc smd tty pppd blahblah patch :) | 04:35 |
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emwe | smiley-: 70 hours with one charge? i assume no :) | 05:26 |
smiley- | hehe.. no :( | 05:26 |
smiley- | probably 7-8 charges ;) | 05:26 |
smiley- | but moving from wifi->3G->E alot | 05:27 |
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hyc | emwe: page allocation failure? it sure does look like it | 06:06 |
emwe | yah, looks like it. | 06:07 |
hyc | so you haven't applied that fix to .35 yet? | 06:07 |
emwe | nope. never had it | 06:08 |
emwe | never seen this and i am "running" .35 for quite some time. | 06:08 |
hyc | sounds like it's time to do so ;) | 06:08 |
emwe | i saw no need yet | 06:08 |
hyc | either way the original code is terrible | 06:08 |
emwe | is that patch applicable right away to autobuild .27? i think so yes, or? | 06:08 |
hyc | pretty sure yes | 06:09 |
emwe | i mean, it can go out already i take it? | 06:09 |
emwe | ok | 06:09 |
hyc | nobody has reported any problems on kernels with that patch | 06:09 |
hyc | it has no downside at all, all win. | 06:09 |
emwe | yah, rather the other way around. problems without it. | 06:09 |
emwe | iirc never had it though with .27 either. | 06:10 |
emwe | btw, you ever looked into fn+caps controlled by userland? wasn't there some htc-extension to lights service exactly for that? | 06:10 |
hyc | you were pretty lucky then. It wasn't frequent for me, but often enough that I recognizedi t whnever it hit. | 06:10 |
hyc | I don't know of any htc extensions | 06:10 |
emwe | ok. is aosp capable of doing so? iirc the api to liblights got extended to do so. pushing some more events... | 06:11 |
hyc | would be happy to rig something up though | 06:11 |
emwe | need to look again. | 06:11 |
hyc | I've seen nothing in froyo source that could do it | 06:11 |
hyc | mebbe gingerbread | 06:11 |
emwe | perhaps cyano has something already. | 06:12 |
hyc | I looked extensively in the froyo code | 06:12 |
hyc | hm, didn't look there | 06:12 |
emwe | i wouldn't even know where to start. frameworks/base? | 06:12 |
hyc | probably | 06:12 |
hyc | powermanager service lives there I think | 06:12 |
hyc | and that's what invokes liblights | 06:12 |
emwe | ah, thanks. | 06:12 |
emwe | private LightsService.Light mCapsLight; private LightsService.Light mFnLight; | 06:15 |
emwe | ^^ on cyanogen that is | 06:16 |
hyc | oh ho | 06:16 |
hyc | froyo? | 06:16 |
emwe | looking at their ginger. but we don't have it. in either branch | 06:18 |
emwe | so they likeley extended like htc used to | 06:18 |
hyc | will have to see what kernel interface they used too | 06:20 |
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emwe | hm, no fn/caps in their hw-msm7k liblights but i'll take a look at it then. "just" a matter of adding to liblights when PowerManagerService is updated. | 06:28 |
hyc | hm if not in their msm7k, then what phone did they implement it for? | 06:44 |
emwe | don't they do their dist for a shitload of devices? perhaps some non-htc keyboard phone. | 06:45 |
emwe | or for evo-shift e.g. some samsung are with keyb iirc too | 06:46 |
hyc | ah | 06:46 |
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emwe | hyc: just to make sure... you were seeing the same stack traces before the smd/tty patch fixup? or do "mine" rather look like it can't allocate the memory requested? (asking as jonpry has seen some memory allocation pressure on .39 initially) | 07:46 |
hyc | I never saw a trace like this, but it matches the description jonpry gave | 07:58 |
hyc | But I used to see other smd_tty panic traces frequently on my phone | 07:58 |
hyc | of course, this raises the question of whether there's a memory leak in .35 and/or .39 | 07:59 |
hyc | I mean, thus far, the only kernel crashes I've had with .27 on my rhod have been triggered by manually enabling 2G-only mode. | 08:00 |
hyc | the modem command to change modes causes the radio to disconnect and reconnect, and sometimes (but not every time) this interacts badly with smd and pppd ... | 08:01 |
hyc | note that simply roaming between 2G and 3G has no such problem | 08:01 |
smiley- | after the patch my raph is very stable (if it's the same patch we talk about) | 08:02 |
hyc | yep, same patch | 08:02 |
hyc | note that there are two aspects to the patch - jonpry's original patch which fixes the memory buffer stupidity | 08:02 |
hyc | and my patch which adds tty hangup support to smd_tty | 08:02 |
hyc | I'm pretty sure my tty hangup patch fixed my 2G/3G toggling problem. | 08:03 |
smiley- | cpuspy says 4h on 691MHz, 43h on 128MHz and 31h deep sleep :) | 08:03 |
hyc | for me jonpry's patch was simply an opportunity to optimize the driver and increase the efficiency | 08:03 |
smiley- | the reason for high number on 128MHz is because I have left it in the charger over night | 08:04 |
hyc | cool | 08:04 |
hyc | sounds like it's all healthy | 08:04 |
smiley- | very :) | 08:04 |
hyc | what kind of battery life do you get from winmo? comparable, or very different? | 08:04 |
smiley- | very different :( | 08:05 |
smiley- | 8h-10h at most | 08:05 |
hyc | really. so winmo is worse? | 08:05 |
smiley- | oh | 08:05 |
smiley- | I mean in android | 08:05 |
smiley- | on winmo.. I can't remember.. it's 2 years ago since I used it ;) | 08:06 |
hyc | heh ok | 08:06 |
smiley- | but more than 8h-10h | 08:06 |
hyc | I've never tested battery life on mine, just installed xdandroid as soon as the phone arrived. | 08:06 |
smiley- | this one has been on the shelf for 1.5-2 years | 08:06 |
smiley- | but I'm running gingerbread on it.. not sure if that drains more battery | 08:07 |
hyc | well, LiIon batteries only have a useful life of ~3 years before they're all oxidized | 08:07 |
hyc | so you might have gotten more than 10 hours 2 years ago | 08:07 |
hyc | but not any more | 08:07 |
smiley- | yeah true | 08:08 |
hyc | I get 14-16 hours on my rhod210, no real trouble | 08:08 |
hyc | if I just leave it idling it will last a few days | 08:09 |
smiley- | ok | 08:14 |
smiley- | yeah that will not happen with this one :) | 08:14 |
smiley- | the Kovsky has a bit better battery time.. currently I'm trying it out with the same kernel as on RAPH100 and same gingerbread build | 08:15 |
smiley- | so far it behaves nice | 08:15 |
smiley- | did port alex charger code so it's actually charging when USB is plugged in | 08:16 |
hyc | I'm sure that makes life better :P | 08:16 |
smiley- | but still needs to be booted with wall charger plugged for activating the charge | 08:16 |
smiley- | and apparently that also helps to prevent the panel from freezing | 08:16 |
hyc | weird. I guess device init in the kernel is still missing a lot | 08:17 |
smiley- | yeah.. looking forward to the 2.6.35 he is working on :) | 08:17 |
smiley- | have tried it and it works but no wifi so far | 08:18 |
smiley- | the ti-driver compiles but it can't load it because of symbols missing.. probably lot of old code has been refactored and the wl12* is gonna be used instead | 08:19 |
hyc | wl1251 has been split out from wl12xx in latest linux-wireless source | 08:19 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, re: SoD on .35... unfortunately they were all with the old kernel, before you had hacked in the sleep LED... | 09:04 |
arrrghhh | hyc, re: battery life on RAPH - they don't have panel collapse... :/ | 09:06 |
arrrghhh | i think every device supported in our port does, except DIAM/RAPH. actually, i don't know about BLAC... | 09:06 |
hyc | ah, that explains a lot | 09:08 |
smiley- | collapse? | 09:08 |
hyc | LCD powerdown | 09:08 |
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smiley- | ah | 09:08 |
smiley- | well it gets completly dark.. but maybe there is power still going there | 09:09 |
smiley- | (any parameter in /sys /proc that shows it?) | 09:09 |
arrrghhh | yes | 09:09 |
arrrghhh | so backlight is shut off smiley- | 09:09 |
arrrghhh | and brightness is set to 0 | 09:09 |
arrrghhh | but panel is still sucking powa | 09:09 |
smiley- | ok | 09:09 |
arrrghhh | i want to say wistilt2 figured out how to collapse the panel | 09:10 |
arrrghhh | but they had a ton of issues when he would try to bring it back to life :P | 09:10 |
smiley- | hehe | 09:11 |
smiley- | D/lights ( 211): Setting brightnessMode=0 brightness=0 | 09:11 |
smiley- | I/power ( 211): *** set_screen_state 0 | 09:11 |
smiley- | D/Sensors ( 211): LightSensor::enable(4, 0) | 09:11 |
smiley- | is whats visible when it's shutdown | 09:11 |
arrrghhh | i wouldn't like smiley- | 09:11 |
arrrghhh | ;) | 09:11 |
arrrghhh | der | 09:11 |
arrrghhh | s/like/lie/ | 09:11 |
smiley- | the kovsky says something about epsonpanel also | 09:12 |
smiley- | lie? :) | 09:12 |
arrrghhh | yes :P | 09:12 |
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smiley- | no.. I believe you ;) | 09:12 |
smiley- | from time to time the backlight on the keyboard isn't shut off either.. that can drain battery very fast too | 09:16 |
arrrghhh | not sure that LED will pull that much power | 09:17 |
arrrghhh | honestly, the panel is probably the #1 drainor | 09:17 |
smiley- | yeah | 09:17 |
smiley- | I hope alex gets the 2.6.35 kernel working and I will use the kovsky instead :) | 09:17 |
arrrghhh | i honestly thought kovs was farther than it is | 09:18 |
arrrghhh | but so few people talk about them here | 09:18 |
arrrghhh | it's like they're not a part of the project, but are :P | 09:18 |
arrrghhh | just like blackstone users... | 09:18 |
smiley- | hehe | 09:23 |
smiley- | actually the gingerbread build works great on it after replacing the libsurfaceflinger libs | 09:23 |
smiley- | the panel is mounted upside down on the kovsky.. so you get a 180° rotated image on the LCD ;) | 09:24 |
smiley- | without the fixed lib | 09:24 |
hyc | Funny, i would have thought setting the screen calibration would tell it the screen orientation too | 09:25 |
smiley- | all the cordinates gets right on the screen.. but not the image itself | 09:26 |
emwe | arrrghhh: thx for the info. | 09:41 |
arrrghhh | np mate | 09:41 |
emwe | btw, my raph100 survives 24h with ease :P | 09:44 |
emwe | ok, idling... but nevertheless. way bettern then my topa idling. | 09:44 |
arrrghhh | really!?!? | 09:44 |
emwe | so panel collapse seems - at least for my variant - quite good | 09:44 |
arrrghhh | i thought TOPA had panel collapse | 09:44 |
emwe | yeah. 27 idle with wifi last great. | 09:44 |
emwe | yeah, but topa's been a bitch ever | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | lol | 09:45 |
emwe | ok, then 1350mAh battery in raph makes it go better too | 09:45 |
emwe | topa has only 1100mAh. | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | heh | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | TOPA is a bastard child | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | does it have a front-facing cam? | 09:45 |
emwe | already exchanged the battery topa battery from the tattoo hand-me-down from my gf | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | nice | 09:45 |
emwe | no change. both still in good shape imho | 09:45 |
smiley- | hehe.. is there a way to check if it has collapsed or not? in /proc /sys whatever | 09:46 |
emwe | no sleep led? ;) | 09:46 |
smiley- | hmm | 09:46 |
smiley- | I never get that.. but I have ledeffects installed | 09:46 |
emwe | alternative: pm.debug_mask=2 and then dump dmesg after some sleep without cable. | 09:46 |
emwe | ledeffects is useless | 09:46 |
emwe | especially when it comes to sleep | 09:47 |
emwe | with pm.debug_mask=2 you should get sth like: [ 2031.124725] msm_pm_collapse(): returned 1 | 09:47 |
smiley- | pm.debug_mask=2 sounds like I have to reboot.. ;) | 09:47 |
emwe | yap. | 09:47 |
emwe | ths is kovs? | 09:47 |
arrrghhh | LEDEffects is only useful for DIAM/RAPH | 09:47 |
arrrghhh | i wish it worked for other devices | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | was great software. | 09:48 |
smiley- | yeah this is on the raph | 09:48 |
emwe | well, but it will never informed about sleep the last time (about a year ago) i checked. | 09:48 |
smiley- | the kovs is switched off right now.. making a noise in the speaker when LED is flashing | 09:48 |
smiley- | LEDs | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | lol | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | that's a feature | 09:48 |
emwe | audiovisual sleep indicator. | 09:48 |
smiley- | it sucks.. there are kernels that doesnt do that on the xdadev-forums.. but looks like they never sent any patches back for all the tweakings they have done | 09:49 |
smiley- | duckly something.. familiar name? | 09:49 |
emwe | hyc: jonpry confirmed the stack trace to be his issue on .39 and is also positive your smd tty fixes are gonna fix it. | 09:49 |
emwe | (or rather your combined effort to name it correctly) | 09:50 |
smiley- | because if that kernels could be compiled with the smd tty fix that would be a quite stable 2.6.27 for kovs | 09:50 |
smiley- | that/those | 09:50 |
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smiley- | uninstalled ledeffects and emwe seems to be right.. no sleep led | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | heh | 10:12 |
arrrghhh | i thought you'd still get sleep LED on RAPH w/o LEDEffects | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | i just thought it helped customize it | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | but perhaps it is more than just customizing... | 10:13 |
smiley- | yeah.. we do get that | 10:13 |
smiley- | maybe the ledeffects settings is still active | 10:13 |
smiley- | thats one reason I installed it.. i didn't want the flashing light ;) | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | hehe | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | i like having an indicator of sleep | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | if all the sleep bugs get squashed | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure how i'll deal :P | 10:14 |
smiley- | then you will love the Macbook ;) | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | at first i don't think i'll like it | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | bwhahahahaha | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | like other laptops don't indicate they're sleeping :P | 10:14 |
arrrghhh | oh and my new laptop should be here tomorrow. it's at some sort facility, thinking about trying to pick it up today :D | 10:15 |
arrrghhh | work tiem | 10:21 |
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emwe | sleep on raph is "circling led" on that circle control thingy on navipad | 10:29 |
emwe | gtg, laters. | 10:29 |
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smiley- | something seems to keep wifi alive | 11:00 |
smiley- | connectbot offcourse | 11:06 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, howdy | 16:15 |
emwe | getting nuts about rhod ;) | 16:17 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | did you get my mail? | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | i hope the log was helpful | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | the ends of those ramconsole logs are always full of such garbage. | 16:22 |
emwe | i've seen thos msm_72k errors before i think. at least used to. not recently. nothing like i had here though. | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:24 |
emwe | that wake_lock: alarm_rtc looks familiar honestly. | 16:25 |
emwe | it *might* be insta-plug related. | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | well it happeend while on usb/adb | 16:25 |
emwe | oh usb? hm. | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | yes | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | i was using adb, checked something | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | it fell asleep while on usb/adb (thought that was odd) | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | got the ding it d/c'd too | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | and then i was unable to wake it | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | solid green light, no kbd backlight or anything would respond. | 16:26 |
emwe | it fell asleep on usb? uhoh | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | oddly the PC recognized a USB device, but it didn't know what to do with it. | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | so i rebooted, and pulled ramconsole. | 16:26 |
emwe | but green=on and nothing would wake is what i had too this morning | 16:27 |
emwe | first time ever. | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | i had a few of those before, but no sleep indicator. | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | just wouldn't wake, no response. | 16:28 |
emwe | if nothing helps i'll have to disable that dex isr again like on .27 :/ | 16:29 |
arrrghhh | bummer | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | i like that feature | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | but if it blows stuff up, not worth it | 16:30 |
emwe | it perhaps just needs to be finetuned. i have a feeling that battery-smem code might have an influence. not sure. always easy to blame something else ;) | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 16:33 |
smiley- | my raph still up without reboots :) | 16:35 |
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emwe | ok, smd/tty fix pushed to .27 autobuild. | 16:37 |
smiley- | yay :) | 16:40 |
emwe | you wouldn't mind to test this one out, no? ;) | 16:40 |
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smiley- | haha ;) on next reboot ;) | 16:41 |
smiley- | in 2013 | 16:41 |
smiley- | ;) | 16:41 |
emwe | arrrghhh: you had "random" data loss during sleep, recovering on resume? | 16:41 |
xdandroid | New kernel available (20110627_223755) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110627_223755-package.tar.bz2 | 16:47 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, sorry, didn't see your message | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | i blame work | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | by data loss, you mean connectivity? | 17:10 |
emwe | np | 17:10 |
emwe | yap, like seen before the panel vreg-fix for rhodw on gsm | 17:11 |
emwe | i think i saw this after resume several times this afternoon | 17:11 |
emwe | but it got never broken like before the vreg-fix | 17:11 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | nothing like that, but our setups are different. | 17:12 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: 2 little commits to .35. autobuild should popup soon if you are still giving .35 a go. | 17:59 |
emwe | auto-bl and lcd-backlight. | 17:59 |
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arrrghhh | cool | 18:00 |
emwe | and smd tty ported from htc ace rather identical to .27. strangely hycs tty hangup fix closes smd channel immedately. perhaps it's that flush of the workqueue in tty_close() which emulates the same. hyc, feel free to comment ;) | 18:00 |
arrrghhh | emwe, did you post 20110627_223755 on .27? | 18:00 |
emwe | arrrghhh: well, it's just a copying of the .27 stuff | 18:00 |
arrrghhh | commit log is... non-existant. | 18:00 |
emwe | oh, that is broken then. | 18:01 |
emwe | GlemSom: if you read logs... commit-log fetching broken :) | 18:01 |
arrrghhh | heh | 18:01 |
arrrghhh | the 6/22 kernel is fine | 18:01 |
emwe | 6/22 from autobuild .35? | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | .27 | 18:02 |
emwe | ah heh :) | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | the production tree ;) | 18:02 |
emwe | had you tried earphones with .35? | 18:02 |
emwe | somehow my audiorouting is broken again | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | w/extUSB? | 18:03 |
emwe | yap | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | no... i can tho | 18:03 |
emwe | as if it starts after using a fresh data.img for some time... | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 18:03 |
emwe | been making jb crazy already with telling broken/fixed/broken/fixed | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | lololol | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | i haven't talked to that dude in ages | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | how is his stuff going? | 18:04 |
emwe | said he's going to do some forum testing before his patches to kernel should be applied | 18:04 |
emwe | or well.. he just wan'ts to be sure | 18:04 |
emwe | need to get him in one room with stinebd. | 18:04 |
stinebd | tell him to come here | 18:05 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 18:05 |
arrrghhh | i never see that cat on IRC | 18:05 |
emwe | we mail quite regularly :) | 18:06 |
emwe | stinebd: heyho. | 18:06 |
emwe | so ok... earphone detection is rboken. doesn't recognize 35mm plug via extusb | 18:06 |
emwe | wtf... | 18:06 |
arrrghhh | weird | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | just fix the actual 3.5mm jack | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | /done | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | :P | 18:07 |
emwe | stinebd: i'd like to break stuff again. one little pending change from alex to gb-gps freeing a stack allocated object. can i merge? so one less merge request. | 18:07 |
emwe | arrrghhh: well, that work branch got it going since saturday. but it's a bit of a mess. | 18:08 |
stinebd | the gb stuff is fluid so go ahead | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, how is TI wifi goin? | 18:08 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: fighting with wpa_supplicant | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | damn | 18:08 |
emwe | stinebd: you got that power.c issue sorted, right? strangeness it didn't work for your rhod. raph was all i tested and fine... | 18:08 |
stinebd | emwe: it's all good here, he was writing the wrong thing to sysfs (mem vs off or whatever) | 18:09 |
emwe | stinebd: if you need some help, how about pushing what you got and for rootfs to another prerelease branch so we can chime in testing? | 18:09 |
emwe | stinebd: strangeness though it worked on raph... | 18:09 |
stinebd | what i'm fighting with is in libhardware_legacy | 18:09 |
stinebd | emwe: it was broken on both my raph and rhod | 18:09 |
emwe | stinebd: really? man, i did a full rebuild of froyo just to make sure. then i am not trustworthy anymore and you should revoke my commit rights. damn build system driving me nuts | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:10 |
emwe | ofc this was a joke! | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | hehehe | 18:10 |
emwe | no, that buildsystem is a pain | 18:10 |
stinebd | it is | 18:10 |
emwe | change on thing, think it's picked up and nada. or at leat it does not land in system.img reliably imho | 18:11 |
emwe | perhaps i am just too dumb... | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | emwe, so far new .35 is great on batt life | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | phone isn't getting hot either | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | i think before something was keeping it awake, and i had no clue. | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | brb | 18:12 |
emwe | if you have watched it more closely, i am always eager about some subjective comparisons. as you know them all. ( the kernels i mean) | 18:12 |
emwe | stinebd: so if you need any help with some pre FRX07 testing, please don't hesitate. | 18:13 |
emwe | at least the raph with wifi and SIM is setup quickly. can do testing with topa and rhod then as well if required. | 18:13 |
emwe | always a pita to backup data and system images, though. | 18:14 |
emwe | arrrghhh: if bored, try the .35 autobuild. | 18:16 |
emwe | so, gtg. gnight. | 18:16 |
hyc | emwe: re: smd_tty hangup - dunno what you're seeing, a dmesg might help | 18:17 |
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