| hyc | *blacklisted | 00:00 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 00:01 |
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| HELP | helo is any one listining i have a problem | 00:03 |
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| arrrghhh | classy | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea sure what's your prob | 00:03 |
| Guest84130 | um well i have xdandroid frx06 on my us cellular touch pro 2 and i cant get service | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | did you read the FAQ/ | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 00:04 |
| Guest84130 | no | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | might want to do that. | 00:05 |
| Guest84130 | where is that (srry im somewhat a new be) | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | where did you get FRX06 from? | 00:06 |
| Guest84130 | o srry FRX04 | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | that's ancient | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | where did you get it from | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | how did you find it | 00:07 |
| Guest84130 | um well i searched it on google | 00:09 |
| Guest84130 | i got ppcgeeks | 00:09 |
| Guest84130 | (also its 2.2Blazin | 00:10 |
| Guest84130 | ) | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | unsupported | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | and look at ppcgeeks | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | you don't see any links to FRX06? | 00:10 |
| Guest84130 | no well i could just get it here | 00:11 |
| Guest84130 | right | 00:11 |
| Guest84130 | ? | 00:13 |
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| arrrghhh | guess not | 00:16 |
| jonpry2 | 2.2blazn will catch your phone on fire | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | don't i know it | 00:19 |
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| korn | its the guy that needed help with no service on xdandroid | 00:21 |
| korn | im back | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | great. | 00:22 |
| korn | anyone ther | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 00:23 |
| korn | well i have restarted my phone and for a bit in wm it says no sim then gets service thts on wm tho | 00:24 |
| korn | then tht means i cud change the setting in xdandroid! but launcher pro expired and i cnt get it without an internet connection | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | can't help you | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | you're using an outdated unsupported build | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | and you still haven't read the FAQ | 00:28 |
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| korn | wheres the "faq" | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | you said you found a build on PPC Geeks? | 00:32 |
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| toadlife | How goes it everyone? | 00:41 |
| toadlife | Thought about buying another TP2 (saw a nice used one for $60 on ebay), but I ended up signing up with Spring and ordering the Epic 4g. | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | aw | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | sellout | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 00:43 |
| toadlife | I know someone at work who has had a TP2 (sprint I think). I'm gonna ask him if he still uses it and offer to buy it off him if he doesn't and still has it. | 00:43 |
| toadlife | So I can still play wit you guys | 00:44 |
| toadlife | ;) | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | giggity? | 00:44 |
| toadlife | I'm having serious smartphone withdrawals. | 00:46 |
| toadlife | My current phone: http://tecnicalia.com/imagenes/www.tecnogadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/samsung-sgh-t409.jpg | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | my condolances | 00:46 |
| random_n | I don't mean to sound terribly needy, but is there a newer build of hyc's RIL available anywhere? I've just jumped back into this, and my RHOD500 on Telus CDMA can usually only get one call off without losing the connection and getting the same error that looks like it was resolved here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13748605 a couple of days after the f45b767 2011-05-11 build from post 6. | 00:55 |
| random_n | The build it yourself option seems a bit... daunting. I do have logcats if that's helpful. | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | if you're intimidated by it | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | then wait for the next build release | 00:57 |
| random_n | Alright. Been this long with ol' winmo, might as well keep going a little while longer. Thanks! :-) | 00:58 |
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| dhjfdhfhfhf | dear all... i followed the guide to setup frx06, but it doesn't boot, returning rootfs missing | 02:22 |
| arrrghhh | were you reading a thread? | 02:22 |
| arrrghhh | define: 'the guide' | 02:22 |
| dhjfdhfhfhf | i unzipped the frx06 folder in the zip to /andboot and moved the startup for raphael | 02:23 |
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| dhjfdhfhfhf | the installation guide | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | well at any rate | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | if you put everything in andboot | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | then you need to put a rel_path=andboot in your startup.txt | 02:24 |
| arrrghhh | after set cmdline=" | 02:24 |
| arrrghhh | within the quotes | 02:24 |
| dhjfdhfhfhf | ok, I think that's it | 02:25 |
| dhjfdhfhfhf | thanks! | 02:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 02:25 |
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| ultradj83 | 1st boot running... what's "mdp_dma busy"? | 03:12 |
| arrrghhh | something that can be safely ignored | 03:13 |
| ultradj83 | mmmh... I'm waiting for the screen calibration but... | 03:13 |
| arrrghhh | did you follow the directions? | 03:13 |
| arrrghhh | gotta be on an older kernel | 03:13 |
| ultradj83 | the installation guide? | 03:14 |
| arrrghhh | bleh depends on which one | 03:14 |
| ultradj83 | xdandroid.com | 03:14 |
| arrrghhh | i don't even know where to start on fixing that beast | 03:14 |
| arrrghhh | what device do you have? | 03:14 |
| ultradj83 | touch pro / raphael gsm/wcdma | 03:15 |
| arrrghhh | froyo? | 03:15 |
| ultradj83 | frx06 | 03:15 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 03:15 |
| ultradj83 | ok, downloading link from 1st post | 03:16 |
| arrrghhh | did you follow the directions on calibration? | 03:16 |
| arrrghhh | there's a couple of options. | 03:16 |
| ultradj83 | no, my fault, I was expecting it was like previous releases... | 03:17 |
| arrrghhh | well it depends on what kernel you're using | 03:18 |
| arrrghhh | some kernels it works fine on, others it's busted | 03:18 |
| ultradj83 | i run haret from /FRX06, do I have to put ts_calibration in the same folder? | 03:22 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 03:23 |
| arrrghhh | put ts-calibration wherever you run haret.exe from | 03:24 |
| ultradj83 | i think this is calibration setting for raphael, so that i won't have to do it on my own... | 03:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea i've included one in the post | 03:30 |
| ultradj83 | will a XDA ROM ever exist? | 03:31 |
| ultradj83 | I've been using XDA for several weeks, but anytime there's something to be loaded from SD it's slow... | 03:31 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 03:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure all the slowness is from being on SD | 03:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure some of it is, but there's other factors. | 03:32 |
| ultradj83 | it seems ok when SD is not involved | 03:32 |
| ultradj83 | running!! | 03:34 |
| ultradj83 | I have to refresh my linux experience... it's becoming out of date... | 03:37 |
| ultradj83 | can I load contacts from WM?° | 03:40 |
| arrrghhh | read the FAQ pls | 03:44 |
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| ultradj83 | Dear all.. does anybody know why the back button acts as the hang up button? | 04:19 |
| ultradj83 | I have no way to back to previous menu... | 04:19 |
| GPFerror | use the spare part apk to assign the button | 04:38 |
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| ultradj83 | can anybody help me to find the "back" button? | 07:16 |
| ultradj83 | i'm on touch pro... | 07:16 |
| ultradj83 | at the moment back button acts as the hang up button... | 07:17 |
| ultradj83 | anybody there? | 09:01 |
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| ultradj83 | anybody there? | 09:17 |
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| ryannathans | yeah.. use spare parts as already suggested | 09:43 |
| ryannathans | I think it has been removed from frx06... sigh, search for it | 09:44 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: regarding that slowness from sd, seems to be 'other things' also. hycs system with partitions on still the same sd (class 4) and speed is incredible, responsiveness, just wow. | 09:45 |
| hyc | yeah, I never understood what people are talking about, froyo is not a slow OS... | 09:49 |
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| ryannathans | Must be the loopback filesystems they are using ;P | 10:05 |
| ryannathans | I guess I will get to work on those wiki pages | 10:05 |
| ryannathans | AFAIK It is probably that the loopbacks are fragmented over the FAT32, we don't experience this because we would be on ext2 partitions | 10:07 |
| ryannathans | yes, fragmentation occurs and affects performance on an SD :) | 10:08 |
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| hyc | true, but it occurs regardless of partitioning | 10:16 |
| smiley_ | hello.. discovered the XDAndroid project a few days ago and it brought back life to my not-used-anymore HTC Touch Pro :) great stuff | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | the only problem I have is to carry around three phones now ;) | 10:19 |
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| smiley_ | but one question.. system.ext2 builds on the forums for Gingerbread is from March. Is working being done on that one and is there any updates out there? | 10:24 |
| smiley_ | I have updated kernel, initrd and rootfs | 10:25 |
| ryannathans | yes, both | 10:42 |
| ryannathans | there are 'test' builds and there is FRX07 coming out soon, I also believe there is another gingerbrad update in the works but I know nothing abou tit | 10:42 |
| ryannathans | huge amounts of work have been doing/still being done | 10:43 |
| ryannathans | massive changes | 10:43 |
| ryannathans | unless you get into testing and logging there isn't much to do but sit around and wait ;) | 10:43 |
| ryannathans | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/ if you look there, there is a gingerbread that seems to be later than the one on the forums, I would have no idea, I only use Froyo | 10:46 |
| ryannathans | try it if you want | 10:47 |
| smiley_ | ah | 10:49 |
| smiley_ | no | 10:50 |
| smiley_ | that's the one I'm using | 10:50 |
| smiley_ | the full bundle with the system-gingerbread-testing update | 10:50 |
| smiley_ | is the testing builds out there somewhere? or do I have to download from git and compile myself? | 10:51 |
| emwe | there's no official testing builds out there apart from those you see there. | 10:53 |
| ryannathans | I don't know all that much about builds for TP. I own a TP2 | 10:54 |
| ultradj83 | hi | 10:59 |
| ryannathans | yes? | 11:00 |
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| ryannathans | where should beginners be asking for help if they run into problems setting up xdandroid? | 11:03 |
| helicopter88 | nowhere,the search button is there for helping. | 11:04 |
| helicopter88 | *to help | 11:04 |
| ultradj83 | guys, how can the sd be connected to the PC? | 11:06 |
| ultradj83 | mass storage doesn't work... | 11:06 |
| ryannathans | use ADB | 11:06 |
| ryannathans | DroidExplorer if using windows | 11:07 |
| ultradj83 | it cannot find the device | 11:07 |
| ultradj83 | or better | 11:07 |
| ultradj83 | win7 x64 cannot find drivers | 11:07 |
| ryannathans | install PDAnet, it contains the required drivefrs | 11:07 |
| ryannathans | drivers** | 11:07 |
| ultradj83 | isn't it a tethering sw? | 11:08 |
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| ryannathans | still used adb... | 11:11 |
| ryannathans | still contains the drivers we need | 11:11 |
| ryannathans | just install it and be done with it | 11:11 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: the wiki hates me. Been redoing the pages for extracting and 'installing' xdandroid. Apparently the server hates it when i try to preview | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | ok? | 11:12 |
| ryannathans | dw, working now :P | 11:12 |
| ultradj83 | i installed adb, but nothing changes... | 11:13 |
| ultradj83 | i also downloded drivers .zip from adb, Win7 says in the x64 folder there's no x64 driver... | 11:14 |
| ryannathans | I am with windows 7 64bit and works fine. | 11:15 |
| ryannathans | 1. Installed Android SDK | 11:15 |
| ryannathans | 2. Installed DroidExplorer | 11:15 |
| ryannathans | 3. Installed PDAnet | 11:15 |
| ryannathans | 4. Done | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | you don't need step 1 | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | and you only need step 3 if you have issues with drivers | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | and step 4, that's just useless :P | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | like this guy is :P | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | (step 3) :P | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | k | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get step 1 tho, that's not necessary. | 11:17 |
| ryannathans | when i installed droid explorer it cried because i didn't have android sdk installed and apparently it wasn't going to autodownload it anymore | 11:17 |
| ryannathans | maybe they rethought it | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | it usually just downloads the necessary piece | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | usually the full SDK is unnecessary. | 11:18 |
| ryannathans | usually. | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | unless you're developing... | 11:18 |
| ryannathans | When I installed I needed ADB from it because DE wasn't going to supply it anymore, they must have changed their mind | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:20 |
| ultradj83 | can i download pdanet from market to phone? | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | no | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | you download pdanet for your PC | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | did you not read my adb how-to thread for windows? | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | or the more complex how-to adb | 11:21 |
| ultradj83 | no, where's it? | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | xda-devs | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099481 | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | here's my simple thread on the topic | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849718 | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | let's see how you're destroying the wiki | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | so hyc you think partitioning nets that much speed? | 11:26 |
| ryannathans | moving, editing, and doing quite a bit | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't notice any speed different when i ran on partitions. | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, just don't fuck it up. | 11:26 |
| ultradj83 | nothing to do | 11:26 |
| ultradj83 | driver installed | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | i had to freakin pillage the FAQ because someone went thru and raped it. | 11:26 |
| ultradj83 | but pdanet says it's unable to open device | 11:27 |
| ultradj83 | and rolls back automativally | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | don't use pdanet | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | you just use it for the driver.... | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | don't actually use the pdanet software. | 11:27 |
| ryannathans | just use drivers from it | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 11:27 |
| ryannathans | BLOODY RECAPCHA CRAP | 11:28 |
| ultradj83 | the drivers are installed | 11:28 |
| ultradj83 | got it on droid explorer | 11:28 |
| ryannathans | working> | 11:28 |
| ultradj83 | works | 11:28 |
| ryannathans | told ya | 11:28 |
| ryannathans | :P | 11:28 |
| ultradj83 | but how can I read the whole sdcard? | 11:29 |
| ryannathans | I think i will leave configuring android till tomorrow, it's getting late | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, i don't see any changes | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | ultradj83, DroidExplorer is fake mass storage support | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | it's not true mass storage support... | 11:30 |
| ryannathans | the folder sdcard is your sd | 11:31 |
| ryannathans | everything else is a mix of system.ext2 rootfs and data.img | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol /system is system.ext2 and /data is data.img | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | you make it sound like a jumble | 11:32 |
| ultradj83 | this maybe why win doesn't mount it | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 11:32 |
| ryannathans | hehehe brings back memories | 11:33 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: been through and did minor changes to Downloading and Unpacking as well as the incremental updates section | 11:34 |
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| ryannathans | doing most of the heavy work tomorrow | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | did you commit them? | 11:34 |
| ryannathans | get this operational again :P | 11:34 |
| ryannathans | of course | 11:34 |
| ryannathans | "Changes will be published once an authorised user reviews them." | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | i'm lookin | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | don't see any | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to rewrite the install guide | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | that seems to be where most people are Fing up. | 11:36 |
| ryannathans | that was my job :O | 11:36 |
| arrrghhh | well you're failing | 11:36 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:36 |
| ryannathans | http://xdandroid.com/w/index.php?title=Installation_Guide&oldid=899&diff=cur&diffonly=0 | 11:36 |
| smiley_ | argh.. I accidently clicked Enable bluetooth when I was gonna scroll in the settings tab = android crashed and restarted and now Wireless says error ;) | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | ah i do see changes there | 11:37 |
| ryannathans | :P | 11:37 |
| ryannathans | cache is a bitch | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | i was looking at the other pages | 11:37 |
| ryannathans | ahh | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | you said you changed some other pages | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | that's the main page i want to modify | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | the install guide | 11:37 |
| ryannathans | going to do the bulk tomorrow, configuring | 11:37 |
| ryannathans | yeah all that | 11:37 |
| smiley_ | I'm only using wireless.. looks like GSM is still eating lot of battery even when I dont have a SIM-card inserted | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, that's not possible | 11:38 |
| ryannathans | battery meter is stuffed | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | GSM can't eat any battery if you have no SIM installed | 11:38 |
| smiley_ | I guess its still trying to locate best provider for emergency calls? | 11:39 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:39 |
| arrrghhh | just turn off the phone's radio if you're not using it | 11:39 |
| smiley_ | now I rebooted but battery usage said 79% cell standby | 11:39 |
| smiley_ | yeah airplane mode.. but that means no WIFI ;) | 11:39 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | turn of the phone's radio | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | not every other radio. | 11:40 |
| ryannathans | Im going to finish this tomorrow | 11:41 |
| ryannathans | night | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 11:41 |
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| tallnerd1985 | Hello everyone!! | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | hi, do you have a question? | 11:49 |
| smiley_ | ok.. I'm testing Airplane mode wi-fi from market now.. enables the wifi but keeping everything else switched of | 11:52 |
| smiley_ | off | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 11:53 |
| tallnerd1985 | arrrghhh: Sorry, I was looking thru xda but I have one question. How does xdandroid run on the DIAM400 from Verizon? | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | you tell us | 11:57 |
| tallnerd1985 | Haha, I have the xv6900 with the original android port but I am researching for a coworker to see if the Verizon DIAM is capable | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | should be | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | i know the VZ RAPH is crippled | 11:58 |
| tallnerd1985 | All seems geared for the DIAM500 for some reason | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | and doesn't run Android so well | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | I've never heard of the DIAM400 | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | but new devices always seem to come out of the woodwork | 11:59 |
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| tallnerd1985 | Good ole Verizon with their weird model numbers | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | and it seems no one uses vz's devices | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | because for all the sprint RHOD's we have, there's only a handful of VZ RHOD folk | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | we get one RAPH user every 6-8 months lol | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | don't think i've ever had a VZ DIAM user | 12:01 |
| tallnerd1985 | Haha, I would think after the vogue port, there would have been more Verizon users | 12:01 |
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| arrrghhh | eh | 12:02 |
| tallnerd1985 | Oh well, I will give it a shot then later to see how it goes | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea, diam500 startup will probably work | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i need to add a folder for the diam400 :P | 12:04 |
| tallnerd1985 | Haha, I will report back later with my findings | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | good luck! | 12:05 |
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| bfizza83 | hello? | 12:28 |
| hyc | no, idon't believe partitioning has any effect on performance | 12:29 |
| hyc | it improves stability | 12:29 |
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| arrrghhh | ok | 12:29 |
| bfizza83 | can someone please help me out with speeding up the performance? | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, hi do you have a question? | 12:29 |
| bfizza83 | yes | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 12:30 |
| bfizza83 | I am running into some problems | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:30 |
| bfizza83 | I just installed this program last night, and not everything is working like I planned | 12:30 |
| bfizza83 | I am getting a lot of "foreclose" problems when trying to download stuff from the android market | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | did you let it sit after the first boot? | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | let it work out its demons? | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | or did you just go straight to the market and download 15 apps... | 12:32 |
| bfizza83 | well, on the original first boot | 12:32 |
| bfizza83 | I think it was stuck on the Xdandroid statup screen | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | i'm talking about after the UI comes up | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | you need to let it sit | 12:32 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | keep in mind this hardware is ancient | 12:32 |
| bfizza83 | fair enough | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | and our port is far from perfect | 12:33 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 12:33 |
| bfizza83 | so, roughly how long should I let it sit before being able to do stuff? | 12:33 |
| hyc | you need to let it sit thru the initial boot animation too. if you interrupted that, your data.img is probably corrupted. | 12:33 |
| bfizza83 | ah... | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | heh, didn't even think about that. i assumed you let it go thru the bootani | 12:34 |
| bfizza83 | should I just clear the SD card and start it over again? | 12:34 |
| hyc | delete data.img | 12:34 |
| hyc | no need to remove anything else | 12:34 |
| bfizza83 | ok, where do I locate this file? | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | whereever you run haret.exe from | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | root of SD | 12:35 |
| bfizza83 | in the winmo platform? or can I access it though the android part? I am in no way a computer programmer ya know haha | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | if you're in Android | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | it kinda needs to use that file | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | to run? | 12:35 |
| bfizza83 | ok, that makes sense | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | so for now, boot back to WinMo to make any modifications to the Android system | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | there's some more advanced methods, that we won't address now where you can update pieces from within Android. | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | although anytime you're deleting and creating a new data.img, gotta go back to windows. | 12:37 |
| bfizza83 | so, correct me if I am wrong, but I am going to take the SD card out, so that it can boot up normally...then I will erase the data.img? | 12:37 |
| hyc | right | 12:37 |
| hyc | eh? no | 12:37 |
| bfizza83 | and then run haret.exe again? | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | no | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | delete the data.img file | 12:38 |
| hyc | you don't need to remove the sd card | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | you do the deleting of the file | 12:38 |
| bfizza83 | where is the data.img file located? | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | where you run haret.exe from | 12:38 |
| bfizza83 | sorry | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | as i stated previously. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | it's just i already answered that question :P | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | one thing at a time | 12:38 |
| bfizza83 | fair enough | 12:39 |
| bfizza83 | ok, | 12:39 |
| bfizza83 | let me erase this data.img and I will let it sit through all the animations, until it starts up by itself | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | k | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | let it sit for several minutes after you see the unlock screen | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | lots of crap happening in the background | 12:40 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | if you try to do too much right at the beginning, it'll be a painful experience. | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | also i've found using the market on a new data.img is painful... | 12:41 |
| bfizza83 | yeah, I am kinda feeling that right now...even though it is acting much better than early last night | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | it tries to download too many updates and there's something up with our market app, or how we download from the market. | 12:41 |
| bfizza83 | so I am not supposed to go to the marketplace in the beginning? | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just telling you that it might have issues the first time you go to the Market | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | regardless | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | usually after you get that first Market visit out of the way (might need to reset the phone after it, heh) it gets better. | 12:43 |
| bfizza83 | cool...I don't know if this is supposed to happen or not, but the keyboard and hardkeys on the phone don't light up like they used to...is this a problem that I am stuck with? | 12:44 |
| bfizza83 | or should I wait to ask about that after I am done with this first problem? | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | so kbd backlight *should* work | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | button lights was in a newer kernel than is in the bundle i think... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | you have a RHOD right? | 12:47 |
| bfizza83 | correct | 12:48 |
| bfizza83 | HTC Touch Pro 2 | 12:48 |
| bfizza83 | Rhod400 | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | same phone as moi | 12:48 |
| bfizza83 | nice | 12:49 |
| bfizza83 | and I take it that you don't have nearly as many problems as I am having right now? | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | i've been running Android for a while | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | there's certainly some tricks and just general usage things you can do that improve the experience. | 12:50 |
| bfizza83 | I am all about that right now...this phone is actually for my girl, and I am trying to make it as user friendly as possible for her | 12:52 |
| bfizza83 | I don't want her to be frustrated with her phone, ya know what I mean? | 12:52 |
| hyc | frx07 should be a lot better overall | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't know if i'd throw this on someone's phone yet | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | there's still a lot of crap that can break | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | and be frustrating | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | but i guess that describes WinMo too | 12:53 |
| hyc | lol. but our crap is getting fixed... | 12:53 |
| bfizza83 | very nice | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, it is getting a lot better thanks to you sir. | 12:54 |
| hyc | ;) | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure how i can help stine with the rest of your madness | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm kinda lost as to where i left off that testing lol | 12:54 |
| hyc | dunno either | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | last i spoke to him about it he seemed to think i should just pull all of 'em | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | and make some unholy image of merge requests | 12:55 |
| hyc | fine with me ;) | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:55 |
| hyc | if you've tried out my latest build, then you've pretty much seen the end result already | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | but he wants me to pull the requests against the tree to prove out the actual merge requests | 12:56 |
| hyc | you just need to verify that you get the same result when you build it | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | or he just likes trying to make me learn this stuff :P | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, alright don't touch the damned install guide. | 12:57 |
| hyc | so it shouldn't be too bad. after you pull it all and build it you can easily tell if it's intact | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:57 |
| hyc | because you know how it worked on mine... | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | you've also added a lot of madness | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | libacoustic stuffs | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | bt stuffs | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | which i don't think'll make FRX07... unless jb has something new? | 12:58 |
| hyc | true, I've added stuff that's not in my merge reqs | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't seen any ML posts | 12:58 |
| hyc | yeah, thought he was a lot closer to done already | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm running your newest stuff, working great. | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | other than the busted speakerphone, it all seems to 'just work' | 12:59 |
| hyc | but he said the ol' microphone + speakerphone thing just isn't supported yet, and he needed to figure out how to do it. | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure he's hacking away at it heh | 12:59 |
| hyc | probably | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | i've been meaning to ask someone in the know - does cam still have a lot of debugging crap enabled? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | it seems... for lack of a better word 'inconsistent' | 13:00 |
| hyc | dunno, haven't looked | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough | 13:00 |
| hyc | what debug crap? kmsg stuff? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea. anything that would slow down or create inconsistent performances | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes the cam seems to work great. other times... it's painful. | 13:01 |
| hyc | ah. dunno. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | i know you said .27 seemed to have a lot of debugging stuff still enabled that probably didn't need to be. | 13:01 |
| hyc | yeah, like those dumb mdp msgs | 13:01 |
| bfizza83 | hey, sorry to ask dumb questions, but the data.img file, is that the same thing as the zimage file? | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | data.img is /data - where all your userdata goes. | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | zImage is the kernel | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... it's a file that loads drivers for Linux basically | 13:02 |
| bfizza83 | ok, is it a .zip? | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | not if you're getting it from the autobuild | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | it's a .tar.gz IIRC | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | .tar.bz2 :P | 13:03 |
| bfizza83 | I am just having a hard time finding it...I am in the folder where the haret.exe is, but cannot find anything like that | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | you don't see a data.img file...? | 13:04 |
| bfizza83 | I am viewing it on my computer | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | should be just like that - data.img | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it would be hidden... | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | but make sure all that stuff is visible | 13:05 |
| hyc | nah it's a regular file | 13:05 |
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| hyc | but mebbe his extensions are hidden | 13:05 |
| bfizza83 | hmm...maybe I will put the SD card into the phone, and see if it shows up there | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | did you take the SD out and put it in your PC? | 13:07 |
| bfizza83 | yup | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | you can use the phone as a usb mass storage device in WinMo | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | there's a way to get it in Android as well, but that's complicated :P | 13:07 |
| bfizza83 | well, I don't have the USB cable for it | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 13:07 |
| bfizza83 | I just got it like a day ago | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:07 |
| bfizza83 | so I am using an adapter for my microSD card | 13:07 |
| bfizza83 | kinda a pain in my ass lol | 13:08 |
| bfizza83 | wow, so I actually see the data file when the card is in my phone | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea that does suck | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | delete it | 13:09 |
| bfizza83 | I am going to delete it right? | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:09 |
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| bfizza83 | cool | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | you'll lose ANYTHING | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | you changed | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | any contacts | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | SMSes | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | you received, added, etc in Android | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | it's basically all your userdata in one file. | 13:09 |
| bfizza83 | I only was able to download 2 things to the phone | 13:09 |
| bfizza83 | no contacts or anything | 13:09 |
| bfizza83 | I am actually unsure where to put the contacts on the SDcard | 13:10 |
| bfizza83 | so, I haven't much to lose :) | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | didja read the FAQ? | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | it goes thru that | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | easiest way is to sync your contacts with your GMail account to be hoenst. | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | honest* | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | this way if you still use winmo, the contacts stay in sync with both systems without any fuss. | 13:11 |
| bfizza83 | I have read a TON of FAQs, but I haven't seen the FAQs on this particular wiki site before | 13:11 |
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| arrrghhh | assuming you have a data plan and keep both systems in sync with your gmail acct.... | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize there were a ton of FAQ's | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | there's reef's | 13:12 |
| bfizza83 | no | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | the one on XDAndroid | 13:12 |
| bfizza83 | I misspoke | 13:12 |
| bfizza83 | lol | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | then some thing ryannathans wrote on XDA | 13:12 |
| bfizza83 | I was on a bunch of other websites, with their FAQs, and I had read all of theirs...Just haven't read the ones on this site | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i want to know what sites you were on | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | although i like trying to drive people to our stuff | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | since i feel ours is 'official' | 13:13 |
| bfizza83 | yeah, they were forums | 13:13 |
| bfizza83 | just stuff that would popup when I did a google search | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | which ones showed up? | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | i would hope xda-devs were near the top | 13:14 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | good | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | most of that stuff funnels back to us | 13:14 |
| bfizza83 | but I'll save that for after this current problem ok? | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol sure | 13:14 |
| bfizza83 | I am about to run the haret.exe now, and I deleted the data file | 13:15 |
| bfizza83 | I will keep you posted as I go through this process | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 13:15 |
| bfizza83 | thank you so much for your help by the way | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | np | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | donations welcome :P | 13:17 |
| bfizza83 | I am super happy that people like you are accessible | 13:17 |
| bfizza83 | I will donate if you want | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/w/donate.php | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | it's not obligatory | 13:18 |
| bfizza83 | I saw a donate button with paypal on one of the forums or something...but the forum I happen to be on, was one that said development will no longer be happening | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | don't feel like i'm forcing you, but donations are always welcome. | 13:18 |
| bfizza83 | and I kind of didn't want to donate to a shutdown development thing | 13:18 |
| bfizza83 | does that make sense? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea, there's a lot that drive donations to individual sites... | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | or individuals rather | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | i put giant donate links to XDAndroid | 13:19 |
| bfizza83 | so are you one of the developers? | 13:19 |
| bfizza83 | or just a translator in a way lol | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | the latter | 13:20 |
| bfizza83 | I am happy that you are here to help me | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | np | 13:20 |
| bfizza83 | I was wanting to rip my hair out the past couple of days...trying to do this by reading people's messed up FAQs, and installing people's messed up files | 13:21 |
| bfizza83 | all of that and not actually seeing this website until about 11pm last night | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:22 |
| bfizza83 | ok update | 13:22 |
| bfizza83 | I waited through the boot screen | 13:22 |
| bfizza83 | and theough the animation | 13:22 |
| bfizza83 | through* | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | k | 13:23 |
| bfizza83 | now I am on what I think to be the default screen...which is the internet browser | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | it should be a lock screen | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | probably in landscape mode | 13:23 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 13:23 |
| bfizza83 | oh sorry | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | alright hit the back key | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | it should go portrait | 13:23 |
| bfizza83 | done | 13:23 |
| bfizza83 | should I unlock the phone? or just leave it to do all the background stuff? | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | alright unlock it, might still be a little slow | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | unlock it but let it sit until it sleeps | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | solid green LED | 13:24 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 13:24 |
| bfizza83 | I unlocked it | 13:24 |
| bfizza83 | and it is on the browser that tells me that launcherpro is out of date or something | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | oy | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | you installed BLAZN didn't you | 13:25 |
| bfizza83 | yeah... | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't sound like FRX06 | 13:25 |
| bfizza83 | dammit | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | that's from september 2010 | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | FRX06 is from March 25th 2011 | 13:25 |
| bfizza83 | I have FRX0 | 13:25 |
| bfizza83 | 06 | 13:25 |
| bfizza83 | but I haven't gotten it to work | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | you have it, but you're not running it? | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | ok follow the install guide i just made | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | or fixed up rather | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 13:26 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | go thru it, see if you can manage FRX06 | 13:26 |
| bfizza83 | does it include adjustments to misplaced startup.txt and all of that good stuff? | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, did you hear about kernel 3.0? | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, it should include everything you need | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | let me know if something doesn't make sense or needs to be added | 13:27 |
| bfizza83 | ok...I am pulling out the SDcard, and starting it over lol | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's pretty complete, but there's usually some step i forget about or don't explain well enough | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | that's fine | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | might want to give it a good format, per the guide :P | 13:27 |
| bfizza83 | yes sir | 13:27 |
| bfizza83 | ok I will be doing that, and I will let you know when I get back on track | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | sounds good | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | i hope that guide is thorough, it looks good to me :P | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | the rel_path thing was the hardest for me to write... i wanted to be complete, but not ramble. | 13:32 |
| hyc | yeah, but haven't heard much about it | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | madman jonpry is talking about running it on RHOD since he's already got .39 up. lol | 13:37 |
| hyc | "up" is .. rather loosely termed... | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | it boots | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | i can swipe around | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 13:39 |
| hyc | heh | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | drain is kinda out of control | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | i doubt cam works... | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | installing apps just fails, but the system doesn't freak out when it downloads 6 at once | 13:40 |
| hyc | i guess it's a start | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | seems whatever happens, we need to rebase. .27 is long in the tooth and full of spiderwebs. | 13:40 |
| hyc | too bad nobody ever finishes what they start | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | that wouldn't be any fun. | 13:41 |
| hyc | eh, i think having a fully working port would be great fun. | 13:41 |
| hyc | and far less frustrating | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i would too. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | unless this was just some throwaway third phone | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | which for a lot of the devs that's what it is at this point... | 13:43 |
| hyc | i guess | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | but this is my only phone. i wish the port was more complete, for sure. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | i'm tryin to help us get to FRX07 | 13:43 |
| hyc | not just complete - correct. ugly hacks... | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:44 |
| smiley_ | Im testing Android just to see how it is on this old Touch Pro.. my main phones is an iPhone3G and an iPhone4 | 13:45 |
| smiley_ | but might get a real Androidphone later.. so far I like it :) | 13:47 |
| smiley_ | and I work as a javadeveloper so easier to dev on Anroid than having to learn Objective-C ;) | 13:48 |
| bfizza83 | Ok, so I am extracting the FRX06 onto the SDcard now | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | no comment to all of it | 13:48 |
| bfizza83 | I will let you know more in a little bit | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | k | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | seems i might have a tester device real soon... | 13:52 |
| bfizza83 | one more quick question before I do this thing | 13:53 |
| bfizza83 | how do I/should I overclock? | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | and read the FAQ | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | deal | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | I just didn't know if it was built into the .zip or not | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should've said that the other way around. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | sorry for being lazy | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | it's a startup.txt option | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | I remember that much | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | its cool | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't really condone it :P | 13:54 |
| bfizza83 | so, it is on the sd card | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | you're more than welcome to try it tho | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | the startup.txt is on the SD card yes... | 13:55 |
| bfizza83 | I made an "andboot" folder on the sd card, and put all the stuff in it | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | k | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | did the rel_path stuff make sense? | 13:55 |
| bfizza83 | I am on that part not | 13:55 |
| bfizza83 | now* | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | k | 13:55 |
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| toadlife | arrrghhh , re_path does not need to be set if files are in andboot | 14:04 |
| bfizza83 | ok, so let me see if I did this right | 14:05 |
| toadlife | Shame on you for not reading through the entire /init file like I did. ;p | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, orly? | 14:06 |
| bfizza83 | in the quotes after the cmdline, I put rel_path=andboot\FRX06 (and a spacebar after it) I did this because I created an "andboot" file where I extracted the FRX06 files to on the Sdcard | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | well i err'd on the side of caution then. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, that's right | 14:06 |
| bfizza83 | sweet | 14:06 |
| toadlife | If rel_path is not it work with the files in andboot or the root of the sdcard. The only time rel_path must be set is when you put the files in a folder not named andboot | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, good to know. | 14:07 |
| bfizza83 | so, now, all I should have to do is put the sdcard in there, and run the haret.exe? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, yup | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | how was the guide? | 14:07 |
| bfizza83 | ok...doing this now, Ill let you know if I run into any errors | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | assuming it works lol | 14:07 |
| bfizza83 | yes, dear god, lets hope it works | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 14:08 |
| toadlife | anyone have any recommendations for desktop/window managers besides gnome or KDE? I've always despised gnome and liked KDE, but KDE 4.x is a mess - half the features in it are incomplete or broken. | 14:11 |
| hyc | I've been running xfce for a while | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, i found KDE4.6 has finally been stable enough for me to use full time. | 14:11 |
| toadlife | Don't lol at me! | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | but i kinda wish they kept 3.5.10 around for a little longer. | 14:11 |
| toadlife | Humm; I'm on KDE 4.5.5 | 14:11 |
| toadlife | That's what's available in FreeBSD's ports | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i'm on 4.6.2 | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not cool enough to use FreeBSD :P | 14:12 |
| toadlife | It's like Linux from 1999, with better documentation. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i know you've said that. | 14:13 |
| toadlife | I used to use fluxbox, but that's a little too minimalistic. | 14:13 |
| toadlife | I'll look into xfce | 14:14 |
| bfizza83 | ok I guess I must have done something slightly wrong | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, and you said no DE :P | 14:14 |
| bfizza83 | do I need to change the name of the zimage in the startup.txt to match the actual zimage file name that is the updated one? | 14:15 |
| hyc | I said vi and a lot of terminals | 14:15 |
| hyc | how do you get a lot of terminals on sceeen at once without a gui... | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, did you update the bundle at all? | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | if so you need to read the incremental updates page | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, that's what i was wondering, i figured you screen'd a boatload lol | 14:15 |
| hyc | I do that too | 14:16 |
| bfizza83 | I didn't update anything yet...just extracted to the sdcard, and tried to run it like it was | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, then you should be fine | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | why, what's wrong? | 14:16 |
| bfizza83 | are you asking me what's wrong? | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | yes.. | 14:16 |
| bfizza83 | when I run haret.exe | 14:17 |
| bfizza83 | it says cannot find the path | 14:17 |
| bfizza83 | or...excuse me | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | haret.exe along with everything else is in /sdcard/andboot/FRX06 rigth? | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | right | 14:17 |
| bfizza83 | it says Failed to load file\Storage Card\ANDBOOT\FRX06\ | 14:18 |
| bfizza83 | correct | 14:18 |
| toadlife | rel_path set to andboot\FRX06? | 14:18 |
| bfizza83 | yup | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | he said it was earlier | 14:18 |
| toadlife | sorry | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | haret.exe is saying this? | 14:18 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | so you never see the flying text? | 14:18 |
| bfizza83 | it doesn't get to that part | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | you're running haret.exe from this same folder, right? | 14:19 |
| bfizza83 | correct | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | you don't have any other haret's floating around | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | and you have a startup.txt file where you're launching haret from? | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's not renamed anything | 14:19 |
| bfizza83 | no other harets...I did format of sdcard | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | or startup.txt.txt or something silly like that :P | 14:19 |
| bfizza83 | it just says startup | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | did you edit the startup with word? | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | and save it as a word doc? | 14:20 |
| bfizza83 | nope | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | what did you edit the startup.txt with/ | 14:20 |
| bfizza83 | on my computer | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | using? | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | notepad? | 14:20 |
| bfizza83 | when it was reading the sdcard | 14:20 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 14:20 |
| bfizza83 | sorry | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | that program can add the second .txt extension | 14:21 |
| bfizza83 | do you think I need to change the name in the startup.txt to the updated zimage name? | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think you updated the zImage | 14:21 |
| bfizza83 | no, I didn't | 14:21 |
| bfizza83 | but in the .zip | 14:21 |
| bfizza83 | the zimage is named zimage with a bunch of numbers | 14:22 |
| bfizza83 | zImage_20110522_213148 | 14:22 |
| bfizza83 | that is the name of the zimage that was in the .zip file | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | what?!? | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | no... | 14:23 |
| bfizza83 | what did I do wrong? | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | you updated the kernel manually | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | there's no way the bundle included zImage_20110522_213148 | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | you downloaded http://files.xdandroid.com/FRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.2011.zip, right? | 14:25 |
| bfizza83 | yes sir | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | there's no way zImage_20110522_213148 is in that bundle. | 14:25 |
| bfizza83 | and I wouldn't lie to you when I tell you the name of the files on there | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | that bundle is dated march 25th | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | yet you say there's a kernel from may 22nd in there? | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | that defines... time | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 14:26 |
| bfizza83 | if kernel is the same thing as zimage | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | if you only downloaded the full bundle | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | and are only dealing with the full bundle | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | then you'd never see zImage_20110522_213148 | 14:26 |
| bfizza83 | ok, so with this being said....what should I do? | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | so you had to have downloaded something manually | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | well which kernel do you want to run? | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | i wish you would've just ran what was in the bundle | 14:27 |
| bfizza83 | I want the one that works the best lol | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | but you can run whatever kernel you want | 14:27 |
| bfizza83 | I would like to run it the way you are telling me | 14:27 |
| bfizza83 | I can start it over again if you want | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | the one in the bundle works pretty well, there's just some newer fixes in the newer kernels. they just sometimes aren't as stable | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't see how you got zImage_20110522_213148 mixed up in there. | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 14:27 |
| bfizza83 | but believe me when I am telling you that I didn't add anything to this .zip I just downloaded | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | well i'm downloading it just to be sure | 14:28 |
| bfizza83 | I put ringtones, and photos in the extracted .zip on the SDcard, and that is all | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | but it's dated 26-Mar-2011 on the site. | 14:28 |
| bfizza83 | yeah I know | 14:28 |
| bfizza83 | I am unsure what happened | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | so there's no way zImage_20110522_213148 is in that bundle. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | impossible. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | so look at the andboot\FRX06 directory | 14:28 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | how many files do you have that are labeled zImage<anything> | 14:29 |
| bfizza83 | on the phone? or on the actual .zipfile on the computer? | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | on the phone | 14:29 |
| bfizza83 | only one | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | on the .zip file there will only be one | 14:29 |
| bfizza83 | and it is the one with all the numbers on it | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | you downloaded that one | 14:30 |
| bfizza83 | do you think I extracted the wrong one onto the sdcard? | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | separately | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | go back to the FRX06_Full_Bundle | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | look at the .zip file | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | you should see a folder, FRX06 | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | within that, just a zImage file - no numbers. | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | you should also see a modules-xxxxxx.tar.gz | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | you want to delete those files from the phone | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | and grab those from the .zip and put them on the phone, in that andboot\FRX06 directory. | 14:31 |
| hyc | no need to delete extra modules-xxx files. they just take up space, but do no harm. | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | they just confuse teh noobs | 14:32 |
| bfizza83 | sorry man | 14:32 |
| bfizza83 | I hate being a noob | 14:32 |
| bfizza83 | I like to think that I can follow directions though :) | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still scratching my head on how you got that new kernel mixed up | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | and the old kernel... just gone. | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | that's a pretty intentional act... | 14:33 |
| bfizza83 | I'm going to do a quick format on the sd card, and then extract the .zip to it again, and see what happens | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 14:34 |
| bfizza83 | this is why I could not be a programmer...things that should happen, end up not happening because of some stupid shit lol | 14:35 |
| bfizza83 | not your fault...my fault somehow | 14:35 |
| bfizza83 | just wish it was easier ya know? | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how to make it easier. | 14:36 |
| bfizza83 | not your fault bro | 14:36 |
| bfizza83 | so hey | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | there's this startup app that seemed like a good idea | 14:36 |
| bfizza83 | I just extracted the files | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | but it broke a lot of stuff, and ended up causing more trouble than it's worth IMHO | 14:36 |
| bfizza83 | and I don't see the zimage with all the numbers | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | i told you :P | 14:37 |
| bfizza83 | yeah, I know | 14:37 |
| bfizza83 | so anyway | 14:37 |
| bfizza83 | do I need to delete and add stuff? | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | you had me second guessing my bundle there :P | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, just the startup.txt | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | copy it to where you run haret from | 14:37 |
| bfizza83 | should I replace the zimage with a newer version or something? | 14:37 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | and if it's in a folder, adjust rel_path | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | let's get you booting first | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | then we can worry about updates. | 14:38 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 14:38 |
| bfizza83 | let me fix the startup.txt | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | k | 14:38 |
| bfizza83 | rel_path=andboot\FRX06 is in the quotes, after the cmdline | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | k | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | if the startup.txt is where you run haret from, you should be able to go ahead and run haret. | 14:40 |
| bfizza83 | ok, should I worry about adding photos and ringtones now or later? | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | for? | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | oh personal stuff | 14:40 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | let's leave that for later. | 14:40 |
| bfizza83 | ok | 14:40 |
| bfizza83 | cool | 14:40 |
| bfizza83 | as long as you can help me with that, I will be straight | 14:41 |
| bfizza83 | putting in the sdcard now into the phone | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | i've never actually put different ringtones in Android yet | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | how lame of me. | 14:41 |
| bfizza83 | and Boom goes the dynomite | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | pictures... i guess it depends on what you want to do with 'em. | 14:41 |
| bfizza83 | use em as wallpaper | 14:42 |
| bfizza83 | and as contact icons | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | never done either of those things :P | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | wallpapers in Android are weird too | 14:42 |
| bfizza83 | I think I can just copy ringtones into the media folder | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | they span across all desktops | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | no matter what AFAIK | 14:42 |
| bfizza83 | same thing with pics...I think... | 14:42 |
| bfizza83 | I don't kno what AFAIK means | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | as far as i know | 14:42 |
| bfizza83 | ah | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | gotcha | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | I am on the boot screen on the phone | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | not the animation screen | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | still on the boot | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea still | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | farther than you made it before :P | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | lol true | 14:43 |
| bfizza83 | seems to be taking longer than the time when I actally got to the animation screen | 14:44 |
| bfizza83 | I know that a ton of people have been saying stuff gets stuck, but I have the patience to keep waiting | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | Oo ts-calibration | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | ? | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | did you copy that file? | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | LOL | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | if you don't have a ts-calibration file | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | you have to build one | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | that could be why this is taking so long lol | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | which normally works | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | but some kernels it doesn't show on | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | do you see any boxes? | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | I think this one is broken | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | that look like calibration points | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | nope | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:46 |
| bfizza83 | just the boot screen still | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | well give it a minute or two | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | if you still see nothing | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | reboot and copy a good one | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | or you'll have to go to an older kernel, create a ts-calib file, then go back to the newer kernel. | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | kinda sucks, but i think the newer kernels it works on now as well. | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | FRX07 is going to be so much better... | 14:47 |
| bfizza83 | whichever way gets me to having a version of android that doesn't crash all the time....that is the goal right? | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | depending on what you expect the phone to do | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | it might still crash all the time :P | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | don't expect to play Angry Birds at 60fps hahaha | 14:48 |
| bfizza83 | I def don't want that....I want my girl to be able to not be frustrated with her phone | 14:48 |
| hyc | just leave it on vibrate ........... | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | WinMo might be the best option until it settles. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | giggity | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, android on a winmo device isn't exactly straightforward. | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | we're getting a lot better (again much in part to hyc's work) but there's still quite a ways to go | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | before i could say 'my mom can use this' | 14:49 |
| bfizza83 | yeah | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | although i don't know if she could really use Android, lol. she has issues with WinMo, but who doesn't... | 14:49 |
| bfizza83 | well, if she can make phone calls, texts, and internet/camera stuff, that is mostly what she does | 14:50 |
| bfizza83 | no, I have issues with winmo | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, ok either i'm nuts or there's something wrong with your new system image. | 14:50 |
| bfizza83 | it is a horrible, not so user friendly OS | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:50 |
| toadlife | My Mom got a blackberry and that was too much for her. I can't imagine her trying to use WinMo or Android. | 14:50 |
| bfizza83 | By the way, I am still on the boot screen | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | android is better on user-friendly for the most part... but our port isn't perfect. | 14:50 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: always possible. the new image I uploaded isn't from a full copy of my build | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | far from it in fact. | 14:50 |
| hyc | it's just the 0523 image with some files rpelaced. | 14:50 |
| hyc | *replaced | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, the reason i say that is the date on the .ext2 file is 5/21 | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | but the 7z has 5/28 as the date. | 14:51 |
| hyc | eh, that probably doesn't mean much. I decompressed the file, mounted it, replaced stuff, unmounted, recompressed. | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i *thought* that would update the modified time on the file... | 14:52 |
| bfizza83 | so, should I just exit here and try something else? | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if i should include ts-calib files in the bundle | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, still at the flying text? | 14:52 |
| bfizza83 | yes sir | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | either download a ts-calibration file | 14:55 |
| bfizza83 | should I just type | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | or revert to an old kernel and create one yourself. | 14:55 |
| bfizza83 | "exit" and try again | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | you have to soft-reset | 14:55 |
| bfizza83 | dunno how to do that | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developershttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | grab a ts-calib file from there | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | put it where haret.exe is | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | bfizza83, soft reset? take the stylus and hit the reset pin under the battery cover. | 14:55 |
| bfizza83 | I have just found out that typing "exit" on the flying text screen, reboots the phone lol | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | on the volume rocker side, left side. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | never tried that lol | 14:56 |
| bfizza83 | ok, so the ts calibration .zip file | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:57 |
| bfizza83 | I had gotten one of those and it was a good one I think | 14:57 |
| bfizza83 | still have it in my downloads folders | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | save it | 14:58 |
| hyc | if typing anything has an effect on the screen, that means the init script died because it couldn't find rootfs or data or system, something like that | 14:58 |
| bfizza83 | do I need to put this file in the sdcard also? htc-msm-linux-20110522_213148-package.tar | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's the kernel update | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's what was tripping you up before | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | do you want me to put it in there or no? | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | oh | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | no | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | not yet | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | ok, so don't use it | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's a kernel update | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | one thing at a time | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | ok cool | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | let's get you booting first... | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | I copied the ts calib | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | extracted it? | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | can't be .zip | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | needs to just be ts-calibration, no file extension. | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | I should leave it as .zip or extract it | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | where you run haret.exe from | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | yes extract it | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | oh ok | 14:59 |
| bfizza83 | one sec | 15:00 |
| bfizza83 | ok I extracted the tscalib, and now it is a file in the sdcard | 15:00 |
| bfizza83 | same place as the haret | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | boot again | 15:01 |
| bfizza83 | attempting that now | 15:01 |
| bfizza83 | flying wordddddddddssssssssssss | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:02 |
| bfizza83 | stuck now, I will let you know if/when it starts to do something else | 15:03 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: any opinions, "regular" screen protector for 42, or matte/anti-glare for $5? | 15:03 |
| hyc | $2 vs $5 | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | regular | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | matte/anti-glare messes with the screen | 15:03 |
| hyc | ok | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | at least i didn't like it | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | not quite as bad as the mirror finish, but kinda the same effect. | 15:04 |
| hyc | heh ok, don't need to re-live that... | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | $2 is cheap tho mang! | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i buy that name-brand crap :P | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | or at least i usually do. it's just so freakin expensive. | 15:05 |
| hyc | http://cgi.ebay.com/2-CLEAR-Screen-Protector-T-Mobile-HTC-Touch-Pro2-Pro-2-/300359763382?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45eed645b6 | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | tmobile, that won't work | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 15:05 |
| hyc | eh? that's my phone | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea i know, i meant my phone :P | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | actually i was joking | 15:06 |
| hyc | there's plenty of listings for sprint | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | but looking at it | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | it probably won't work for my phone... i didn't realize the designs were so different. | 15:06 |
| hyc | yeah, button layouts | 15:07 |
| hyc | also my reset button is on the side of the phone, but under the battery cover | 15:07 |
| hyc | s/but/not/ | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 15:08 |
| hyc | yeah | 15:08 |
| hyc | can't imagine why they would tweak the thing so much | 15:08 |
| bfizza83 | still on flying words, but the words aint moving | 15:08 |
| hyc | drives up their cost to go with many different case molds, etc. | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | where's it stuck bfizza83 | 15:08 |
| hyc | post up a photo of the screen | 15:09 |
| bfizza83 | 439.6109001 r5:00000000 | 15:09 |
| bfizza83 | something like that | 15:09 |
| hyc | that's a crash | 15:09 |
| hyc | again, take a picture of the screen and post it up | 15:09 |
| bfizza83 | so, do I need to do something else? | 15:10 |
| hyc | don't know | 15:10 |
| hyc | can't read your screen from here. | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't really know what you did bfizza83 | 15:10 |
| bfizza83 | dont know either man | 15:11 |
| bfizza83 | I was fucking around with it by reading different FAQs and somehow I got it to work | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:11 |
| bfizza83 | something about the new kernel or something | 15:11 |
| bfizza83 | It was like cut and paste from other people's problems lol | 15:12 |
| bfizza83 | I wish I can fix this damn thing though | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | i wish you'd just keep it simple. | 15:12 |
| bfizza83 | it has been like over 12 hours trying to do this | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | you probably mixed something again. | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | my bundle "just works" | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | assuming you follow the directions and don't mix stuff... | 15:13 |
| bfizza83 | yeah, I have followed the directions | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | most people run into issues when they update | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | try the directions in that thread | 15:13 |
| bfizza83 | If I am getting it to the flying words screen, I think I am doing something right | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | where i pointed you to the ts-calibration file | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | well you've done something right, but if you don't see the boot animation, you've still done something wrong. | 15:14 |
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| bfizza83 | yeah I guess | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | unfortunately there's many wrong ways... and only one right way. | 15:14 |
| bfizza83 | ok, so you wanna try and walk me though this again? | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather you read that thread i linked you | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | and focus ONLY on that bundle | 15:15 |
| bfizza83 | I couldn't access the thread...says not found? | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | ah that link i posted above was mangled, sorry 'bout that. | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | no need to redownload FRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.2011.zip | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | but focus on it, don't use any other files. well, except ts-calibration. | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | follow that step-by-step | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's a little more concise than that install guide | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if that'll be good or bad for you tho lol | 15:17 |
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| bfizza83 | well | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, seeing kexec in the power menu is schweeeeet | 15:19 |
| bfizza83 | I am thinking that I have done everything the way it said to...But would you think that if I get the newest kernel, that would help? Or should I not even try it? | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get the phone out of landscape mode, i'm retracing my steps. | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like to get the full bundle booting | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | as i've said i think you need to focus on the basics first | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | if you really want to | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | and at this point i kinda want to | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | setup a teamviewer session | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | and i'll setup your SD card | 15:20 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: open/close keyboard twice | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | 2x? | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i didn't think about that...? | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | is that the new hooks? :P | 15:20 |
| hyc | i haven't figured out why yet. I patched it and it boots up in portrait mode but then quickly switches to landscape. | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:21 |
| hyc | dunno if it's kernel or userland that is confused at that point. | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | well libsensors is definitely busted | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | because in gb there is no landscape issue on boot | 15:21 |
| hyc | libsensors doesn't read this, it's signalled thru the keyboard driver | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | teamviewer session postponed, i'll brb | 15:22 |
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| serren | hyc, did I read in the logs that you are going to package your files? | 15:32 |
| mes | hyc, is this correct? Howard Chu pushed 218 commits to ~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-system_core:froyo | 15:34 |
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| hyc | no, and no. | 15:36 |
| hyc | 218 commits is counting from the beginning of the froyo branch | 15:36 |
| hyc | not only my commits | 15:37 |
| madplaya1 | I got a question, I don't know if this is normal but in WinMO i get 2 bars of signal, but full bars in android ? | 15:37 |
| Serren | madplayer, i dont think it means anything one way or another. | 15:40 |
| hyc | android probably interprets signal strength on a different scale from winmo. meaningless. | 15:40 |
| madplaya1 | Oh alright, because i replaced the antenna couple days ago. | 15:41 |
| hyc | oh, did you get the android-optimized antenna? :p | 15:41 |
| madplaya1 | haha, nah just a replacement lol. | 15:42 |
| Serren | hyc, I was running all your latest files, and noticed there is an issue with the phone ringing. Not asking for support, just letting you know there may be a bug somewhere. | 15:42 |
| madplaya1 | thanks for the android port everyone, really appreciate it keep up the good work everyone | 15:43 |
| hyc | Serren: don't waste your time. I'm not listening for bug reports. if it doesn't work for you, too bad. | 15:44 |
| Serren | fine. | 15:45 |
| Serren | thanks for all your work though | 15:45 |
| Serren | :-) | 15:45 |
| hyc | It works for me. That's all I ever claimed. | 15:45 |
| Serren | i understand. | 15:46 |
| bfizza83 | ok, I def don't know how to do this | 15:48 |
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| bfizza83 | I got the flying words to get to a farther point than before, but then the words said something about couldn't find system.img? | 15:49 |
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| arrrghhh | bfizza83, do you want to do a teamviewer session? | 15:50 |
| bfizza83 | I don't know what that is...I think I will give something else a try, and then if that don't work, I think I am gonna have to try to do this another time | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | teamviewer is a way for me to remotely assist you | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | you would put the card in the PC and i would setup the card for you basically | 15:52 |
| bfizza83 | oh yeah | 15:52 |
| bfizza83 | I would love for you to do that | 15:52 |
| hyc | like vnc or rdp | 15:52 |
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| bfizza83 | that would eliminate the errors that might happen from me | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | punches thru firewalls like they're bitches | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | lord i am white. bfizza83 go to teamviewer.com | 15:53 |
| bfizza83 | ok, | 15:54 |
| bfizza83 | should I install, or just run it? | 15:54 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, the kbd backlight fade is niiiice | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i like it. classy ;) | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | haven't seen it flicker at all, i'm sure this is a better implementation. | 16:34 |
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| hyc | it's pure hardware | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:40 |
| hyc | yeah I tried to do it in software at first, it flickered a lot... | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | so no userland? | 16:44 |
| hyc | then I figured out how the hardware actually works :p | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:45 |
| hyc | userland just tells it to change. the actual changes are done in hardware. | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that's what i figured. | 16:46 |
| hyc | wistilt's description of the controls were wrong too, so I had to keep experimenting... | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | what about caps/fn? did you leave that in the kernel? | 16:46 |
| hyc | yes | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | those need a place to hook into userland... | 16:46 |
| hyc | yeah, dunno where. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:47 |
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| arrrghhh | i think stinebd does | 16:47 |
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| hyc | in fact I never even found the userland code that manages capslock | 16:47 |
| hyc | this keyboard behaves differently than G1. here, you press shift and let go, and the next key you type will be shifted. | 16:48 |
| hyc | on G1 you hold down shift. | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 16:48 |
| hyc | if yyou let go, it's gone. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | i prefer the way the TP2 does it.. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | i guess cuz that's how all my other phones have done it. | 16:50 |
| hyc | I guess. Unfortunately the kernel LED driver is not in sync with the actual shift/alt function. | 16:50 |
| hyc | If you hold down shift long enough, it will register as auto-repeat and go to shiftlock. | 16:51 |
| hyc | but the LED state doesnkt know that... | 16:51 |
| hyc | so it's very easy for the shift/fn LEDs to get out of sync with reality. | 16:52 |
| manekineko | yeah, the userland and the kernel is completely disconnected, so that's only expected | 16:52 |
| hyc | very annoying... | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:52 |
| manekineko | are we really the only Android device with lights for those things? | 16:54 |
| manekineko | I would have thought that would be very common | 16:54 |
| manekineko | and there would be hooks setup for them | 16:54 |
| hyc | very few android devices even have keyboards.. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how the epic treats it | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | or the milestone/2 | 16:55 |
| hyc | it probably doesn't have caps led | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it did | 16:55 |
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| hyc | dunno | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | i think you're right | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | caps lock i guess is displayed on the UI only? | 16:56 |
| hyc | g1 doesn't | 16:56 |
| hyc | probably | 16:56 |
| manekineko | hmm weird you're right none of these seem to have lights | 16:56 |
| manekineko | I would have thought the ligihts would be common | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | looking at the epic's kbd, no lights | 16:57 |
| hyc | nope | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | droid2, same... bleh | 16:57 |
| hyc | when I switched from the G1 I totally ignored those thing, didn't even know they were LEDs | 16:57 |
| hyc | until later when they showed up in the kernel | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:58 |
| hyc | most android users would never miss them, they never had 'em to begin with. | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:00 |
| manekineko | aha found one | 17:04 |
| manekineko | the Geeksphone One | 17:04 |
| manekineko | never even heard of it before... | 17:04 |
| hyc | lol, neither have I. what LEDs does it have? | 17:05 |
| manekineko | caps and fn | 17:06 |
| hyc | cool. and runs android? | 17:06 |
| manekineko | they had to alter the framework to add support it seems like | 17:06 |
| manekineko | heh, yes | 17:06 |
| hyc | yeah, figures | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | great | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | this sounds like a job for hyc! | 17:06 |
| hyc | then we could just grab their source tree and pull some patches | 17:06 |
| manekineko | seems like a cool little product | 17:07 |
| manekineko | wish more companies cared about geeks issues as much as these guys | 17:07 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: haha. and I'll have it in my build while the world waits for frx07........ | 17:07 |
| manekineko | I suppose that could be related to why no carriers carry them as well | 17:08 |
| manekineko | they certify ROMs and will give support for certified community ROMs | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, frx07 is going to be a doozie | 17:08 |
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| hyc | hm, geeksphone looks like a slightly updated G1 | 17:16 |
| hyc | newer MSM chip | 17:17 |
| hyc | not much else | 17:17 |
| hyc | oh, that was the zero, not the one | 17:17 |
| manekineko | no I think that's the one, the zero looks to have no keyboard | 17:21 |
| stinebd | [16:47:27] <hyc> in fact I never even found the userland code that manages capslock << generally there is none. it's apparently done in kernel on retail devices. cm has a framework modification that allows liblights to do it. | 17:21 |
| manekineko | very different slider mechanisms | 17:21 |
| manekineko | other than the Geeksphone One, which does it with an altered framework, I don't think there are any other retail devices with caps/fn lights | 17:22 |
| manekineko | no, I am wrong | 17:22 |
| manekineko | MyTouch Slide has them too | 17:23 |
| stinebd | honestly, i'd rather see it done in kernel given the fact that it would require a frameworks modification to do it in userland | 17:23 |
| manekineko | kernel could never keep the states in sync properly though | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | it is done in kernel | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | it just gets out of sync | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:24 |
| stinebd | last time i tried it on rhod it was fine | 17:24 |
| stinebd | with a wis kernel | 17:24 |
| stinebd | but he didn't like it in the kernel | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | it can get out of sync | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | even tho most of the time it did work | 17:24 |
| manekineko | it keeps generally in sync, since he counts button presses I believe and changes lights based on what Android does as a result | 17:24 |
| manekineko | but if you do anything unusual like tap on the screen, cancelling out of fn- mode, the lights will be out of sync | 17:24 |
| stinebd | then don't do that | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | doc, it hurts when i go like this | 17:26 |
| manekineko | heh can not do that, but it's still a bug | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, i g2g. cya guys later! | 17:26 |
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| manekineko | stinebd, do you know any framework reason XDAndroid wouldn't support multitouch? | 17:26 |
| stinebd | uh | 17:27 |
| stinebd | none of the devices support multitouch in hardware | 17:27 |
| manekineko | yes, but at the framework level | 17:27 |
| stinebd | wtf | 17:27 |
| manekineko | I was trying to hack at the zoom bar so that it sends multitouch events to the framework | 17:27 |
| manekineko | emulating pinch to zoom | 17:27 |
| manekineko | but even though I think I'm sending the correct events, nothing ever seemed to happen | 17:27 |
| manekineko | I see a lot of random stuff online, like sticking a android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.xml file somewhere, but they didn't seem to do it for me | 17:28 |
| manekineko | the basic idea being you only need to track one point to emulate a kinda pinch to zoom if you know touches to the zoom bar are only for that | 17:29 |
| stinebd | you need this in PRODUCT_COPY_FILES: frameworks/base/data/etc/android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.xml:system/etc/permissions/android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.xml | 17:29 |
| hyc | stinebd: it will get out of sync if you even hold the shift key for a bit too long. | 17:29 |
| hyc | I think the auto-repeat triggers too soon.... | 17:29 |
| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Brandon Fortner, who says: Thanks SO much to <arrrghhh> He saved my ass, and I helped him also! :) | 17:30 |
| manekineko | hmm yeah, that would be the xml file I stuck in | 17:30 |
| stinebd | you're on your own with that | 17:30 |
| stinebd | have fun | 17:30 |
| manekineko | so that's the only framework related issue that you know of | 17:30 |
| manekineko | alright, thanks for the input | 17:30 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:30 |
| stinebd | it might end up being that the device has to claim multitouch abilities or something | 17:31 |
| manekineko | yeah I added that | 17:31 |
| manekineko | or at last I believe I did | 17:31 |
| manekineko | I dunno, thanks for the input though | 17:31 |
| stinebd | you could always check your code against a real driver's and see what might be different (passion would be a good base) | 17:32 |
| manekineko | I based it off of the Nexus S atmel driver | 17:32 |
| manekineko | why do you recommend passion? | 17:32 |
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| stinebd | because it's not samsung junk, i guess | 17:32 |
| manekineko | heh | 17:32 |
| stinebd | i don't know about the ns but at least n1's touchscreen device is more limited so they might be using a similar trick to what you're using | 17:33 |
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| hyc | geksphone one says WQVGA screen. that's tiny. | 17:46 |
| hyc | 432x240? what's the point... | 17:46 |
| stinebd | it's made in venezuela, they can't afford wvga there. | 17:53 |
| hyc | har har. the company is in spain, and manufacture is in China (of course) | 18:01 |
| hyc | they should have stuck with HVGA instead | 18:01 |
| hyc | what self-respecting geek would own a phone with such a low rez screen... | 18:02 |
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| manekineko | heh worse than that even | 18:11 |
| manekineko | 400 x 240 according to Wikipedia | 18:12 |
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| ryannathans | good old arrrghhh, fixing that wiki up while I was sleepin | 19:59 |
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| hyc | ok, fixed the booting-in-landscape bug | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 23:32 |
| hyc | new kernel posted... | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | libsensors bug? | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | new kernel...? | 23:32 |
| hyc | nope | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | the bug isn't present in gb.. | 23:32 |
| hyc | nothing to do with libsensors | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i figured it wasn't a kernel bug | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | since gb doesn't exhibit the behavior | 23:33 |
| hyc | it's a kernel bug. the driver didn't actually read the state of the switch to know its initial state. | 23:33 |
| hyc | Android asks for the initial state when it boots up | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:34 |
| hyc | the driver returned false info since it hadn't gotten an initial state itself | 23:34 |
| hyc | possibly GB bheaves differently and just reads the accelerometer | 23:34 |
| hyc | haven't looked... | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough | 23:34 |
| hyc | also I've cut down some of the dmesg spam | 23:35 |
| hyc | so theoretically, this one should be quiet enough for calibration to be legible | 23:35 |
| hyc | haven't tried it | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 23:35 |
| hyc | anyway, it's 1333 on my page if you want to give it a spin | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | so excuse my noobness but can i replace the kernel live and then just run kexec, or is there something i have to do especially for kexec to pickup the new kernel...? | 23:38 |
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| hyc | nope, just install and kexec | 23:42 |
| hyc | nothing special | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i didn't realize i could replace the kernel live | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 23:42 |
| hyc | the file is completely read into RAM for booting | 23:43 |
| hyc | after you boot, the file is irrelevant | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 23:43 |
| hyc | so yeah, you can modify it, delete it, whatever, the running system won't care | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | i guess that makes sense, the kernel is loaded entirely into RAM | 23:43 |
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