| manekineko | when creating a partitioned build, is there a better way to turn our system/data/root images into files on the partitions than mounting them and then doing a cp -p ? | 00:11 |
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| hyc | if the partition is the exact same size as the image's filesystem you can just dd it | 00:11 |
| hyc | if the partition is smaller you will destroy something | 00:12 |
| hyc | if the partition is larger you will waste some space | 00:12 |
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| manekineko | hmm maybe not as noob friendly then. thinking about writing a tutorial on that | 00:13 |
| manekineko | anyone remember the startup.txt command to tell a build not to boot partitioned even if there are partitions? | 00:38 |
| hyc | no_partitions | 00:38 |
| manekineko | thanks | 00:39 |
| manekineko | just like that on its own? no =true or anything? | 00:39 |
| hyc | on itso wn | 00:39 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, or someone else with wiki access should probably update this page to include that http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Kernel_boot_command-line_parameters | 00:40 |
| hyc | not likely to happen | 00:40 |
| manekineko | oh? | 00:40 |
| hyc | since officially, partitioned builds are unsupported | 00:40 |
| hyc | They are undocumented so that users don't try it. | 00:40 |
| hyc | nobody wants to answer the questions when they run into trouble. | 00:41 |
| manekineko | well, it's not supporting the partitioned build, just adding a recognized command to their wiki list of commands that can go in startup.txt | 00:41 |
| hyc | There's no reason to document it. | 00:41 |
| hyc | if you want to go down an unsupported route, you should now how to support yourself. | 00:41 |
| hyc | know | 00:41 |
| manekineko | I don't really get why everyone seems to be so anti-partitioned layout, plenty of other devices and builds do this | 00:42 |
| manekineko | including Vogue that we forked | 00:42 |
| hyc | I'm not against, obviously. | 00:42 |
| hyc | but the position has already been stated a few times in conversations here. just relaying to you what I heard. | 00:43 |
| manekineko | fair enough | 00:43 |
| hyc | likewise I don't advertise the stuff I've built. I don't want to support newbies. | 00:44 |
| hyc | If you are smart enough to read and install it correctly yourself, have fun using it. | 00:44 |
| hyc | if you have to ask how to get it or how to install it, you shouldn't be using it. | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | i think that option should be added | 00:46 |
| hyc | I make sure all of the essential facts are present. | 00:46 |
| hyc | i make sure the code works as described. | 00:46 |
| hyc | beyond that, if you make a hash of it, it's your problem... | 00:46 |
| manekineko | hey arrrghhh, do you use a colorizer with your ADB command line at all? | 00:47 |
| manekineko | or moreover, do you have those hideous color codes when you use ls with ADB shell? | 00:47 |
| manekineko | such that it's hard to use without a colorizer? | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'd assume not | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i don't know what you're talking about :P | 00:47 |
| manekineko | hmm odd, wonder why my ADB is so fancy that it's sending over all this extraneous color coding, making a mess of everything | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | i need to sleep tho, g'nite guys. | 00:48 |
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| manekineko | yeah I should head out now too | 00:48 |
| hyc | nite | 00:48 |
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| hyc | ugh. Android seems to think that because you have a light sensor and automatic screen brightness, it doesn't need to turn on keyboard or button lights for you | 10:15 |
| hyc | stupid.... | 10:15 |
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| hyc | OK, I have userland keyboard and buttonlights working now | 10:19 |
| hyc | will see if the key repeat bug is still present or not... | 10:20 |
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| hyc | emwe: I get the feeling that the fb patch never does anything useful. at most it sits in a loop with mutexes held, preventing other stuff from progressing. | 10:37 |
| emwe | hyc: hey. dunno if you read logs when i was talking with wistilt about it. that panel->unblank(panel) just always returns =! 0 no matter how often i iterate. topa and raph reproducable. i have not been able to track down where that can happen. | 10:38 |
| emwe | neither board panel file nor mddi client ever return something != 0. | 10:38 |
| emwe | so there must still be sth betweend msm_fb and mddi_client_xyz | 10:39 |
| hyc | I recall some of that conversation | 10:39 |
| hyc | so failcnt is always zero, or always equai to limitcnt? | 10:39 |
| emwe | equal limitcnt | 10:40 |
| emwe | i had it loop 10 times, so 11 calls to unblank, it always hit the limitcnt | 10:40 |
| emwe | i haven't investigated further, but the panel->unblank() is "unknown" to me from which component it comes from | 10:41 |
| emwe | mddi client itself eg. the novatek one mddi_client_novb6foobar.c returns the board-panel return code. so that's not it. | 10:41 |
| emwe | haven't followed that though. | 10:41 |
| hyc | at this point I'm seeing: long delay, backlight comes long, long delay, display is drawn | 10:41 |
| emwe | i just see it repeating very quick the limitcnt+1 times | 10:42 |
| emwe | and after that panel unblanks of what i recall | 10:42 |
| emwe | i think that stuff - same like pm patch - is fighting windmills/sd/non-and or whatnot | 10:43 |
| emwe | non-nand i mean | 10:43 |
| hyc | perhaps | 10:43 |
| emwe | i think that panel->unblank() is the key to the real thing | 10:43 |
| emwe | but i am busy with other stuff | 10:43 |
| hyc | but we know that he had a good test kernel in March/April timeframe with none of these issues | 10:43 |
| emwe | well yeah, but it's perhaps the wrong approach | 10:43 |
| emwe | instead of finding the real cause | 10:44 |
| hyc | ah. fair enough. | 10:44 |
| emwe | can you repdocude the limitcnt+1 calls to panel->unblank()? | 10:44 |
| hyc | I haven't checked | 10:44 |
| emwe | it's just an assumption of mine it might be the wrong place. so no offencse to anyone | 10:44 |
| hyc | are you debugging the kernel to check the value, or just printing it? | 10:44 |
| emwe | if you have a chance, put limitcnt to 10 and add some output | 10:44 |
| hyc | ok | 10:44 |
| emwe | printk() ;) | 10:44 |
| emwe | did i mention JB is my hero ;) | 10:45 |
| hyc | oh? | 10:45 |
| hyc | did he fix your incall bug? | 10:45 |
| emwe | he just sent me an arm9 diag driver and a little app | 10:45 |
| emwe | which fetches arm9 debug log so to say | 10:45 |
| hyc | ahhh, I saw those commits in his diag branch | 10:45 |
| emwe | just need to integrate it. then i can hopefully find sth useful out of the logs | 10:46 |
| hyc | cool | 10:46 |
| hyc | might help with the remaining radio hang bugs? | 10:46 |
| hyc | or why smd_tty seems to lose characters? | 10:46 |
| emwe | that as well. there's different subsystem logs one can request if i got it right... | 10:46 |
| emwe | *clueless* | 10:46 |
| emwe | you always mention that smd bug? | 10:46 |
| emwe | what is it? | 10:46 |
| hyc | lemme find the line number | 10:47 |
| emwe | and btw... can we drop that /dev/smd7 hack? | 10:47 |
| hyc | yes | 10:47 |
| hyc | with newest init anyway | 10:47 |
| hyc | new rootfs + ril2 | 10:47 |
| emwe | ehm? autobuild initramfs + rootfs? | 10:47 |
| emwe | sorry, sometimes i don't get the short english sentences right :) | 10:47 |
| hyc | smd_tty.c line 81 | 10:47 |
| emwe | ah yeah, seen this one... at least on .27 ;) | 10:48 |
| hyc | quite often after this message is printed, the kernel panics in tty_ldisc.c with a null pointer deref | 10:48 |
| emwe | not sure i got that one on .35 ever | 10:48 |
| hyc | gah. i really need to get a .35 running on rhod. | 10:48 |
| hyc | hate this .27 junk | 10:48 |
| emwe | i need a rhod first | 10:48 |
| emwe | gf just came home. be back in a bit. | 10:49 |
| hyc | ttyl | 10:49 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yes, you do need to get .35 running on RHOD :D | 10:53 |
| * arrrghhh whips hyc | 10:53 | |
| hyc | :P | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | hehe. how you doin? | 10:53 |
| hyc | pretty good | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | schweet. | 10:53 |
| hyc | until you reminded me about that caps/fn thing :P | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | so there are no userland hooks | 10:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm saying they need to be made | 10:54 |
| hyc | ugh... | 10:54 |
| arrrghhh | WisTilt2 put kbd bl and caps/fn lights in kernel knowing that's not where they were going to stay | 10:54 |
| arrrghhh | obviously the kernel will still turn them on/off, but userland should tell the kernel when to do so... | 10:54 |
| hyc | yes | 10:55 |
| hyc | that'd be ideal. I have that working now for keyboard and button | 10:55 |
| arrrghhh | orly? | 10:55 |
| hyc | will send a new patch to ML soon to rip out the unnecessary kernel bits | 10:55 |
| arrrghhh | it'd be nice to have those userland hoooks. | 10:55 |
| hyc | read back a bit in the log. It ought to have Just Worked from day one but... | 10:55 |
| hyc | as usual Android is stupid | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what that entails tho, i'm just spouting info i heard from other devs. | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | "With my system specs how many websites do you think I could run and still be able to browse the internet, watch moviess, and play games like sims3, warband, sim city 4?" | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | wtf are you running a web server on a machine you play games on... oy. | 10:59 |
| hyc | lol | 11:03 |
| nautis | wow | 11:09 |
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| manekineko | hyc, what is required to have USB mass storage remount working? I'm on a partitioned build with your latest system (modified), one of your older rootfs, and the audio kernels, but mass storage only works once | 11:12 |
| hyc | hmmmm. sorry can't remember what else at the moment | 11:13 |
| hyc | I think you should have all the right elements | 11:13 |
| hyc | oh | 11:13 |
| manekineko | hmm odd | 11:13 |
| hyc | you also need the initramfs | 11:13 |
| manekineko | the initrd.gz? | 11:14 |
| hyc | yes | 11:14 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:15 |
| manekineko | where can I get a modified one of those from? | 11:15 |
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| arrrghhh | so much for supporting your build hyc | 11:15 |
| manekineko | lol sorry | 11:15 |
| hyc | it's the latest autobuild | 11:15 |
| manekineko | oh really? is USB working with latest autobuild everything? | 11:15 |
| manekineko | on partitioned builds? | 11:15 |
| hyc | yeah, I really shouldn't even be helping such a frankenstein patchwork | 11:15 |
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| manekineko | lol sorry | 11:15 |
| hyc | let's see.... | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:16 |
| hyc | autobuild initrd, autobuild kernel, definitely good | 11:16 |
| hyc | the rest, dunno | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | you WILL support your frakenbuild! | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:16 |
| manekineko | did you manage to get p2 rootfs working or are you using loopback for rootfs still? | 11:16 |
| hyc | I think rootfs is still missing a bunch of patches | 11:16 |
| manekineko | this time will partitioning I tried p2 rootfs and it didn't work for me | 11:16 |
| hyc | I still use a loopback but I don't see any reason why p2 wouldn't work | 11:17 |
| manekineko | odd, I'll double check that then | 11:17 |
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| hyc | do all of these phones have ambient light sensor? | 11:19 |
| hyc | topaz, kovbsky, etc? | 11:19 |
| hyc | kovsky | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think so, but i'm not positive. | 11:20 |
| hyc | ok | 11:20 |
| hyc | our userland is compiled with auto-brightness always enabled | 11:20 |
| hyc | and auto-brightness basically disables Android's control of keyboard/button lights | 11:21 |
| manekineko | quick search says both of those have sensors | 11:21 |
| hyc | so perhaps that setting should remain as-is | 11:21 |
| manekineko | so on native devices, when you turn on auto-brightness keyboard/button lights stop working? | 11:21 |
| hyc | I guess so. G1 has no auto setting, no light sensor. | 11:22 |
| hyc | and it's not just when you set it to auto mode. When the userland is compiled with auto support at all, it's all disabled. | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | but it has a digital compass! | 11:22 |
| hyc | thus my comment about how stupid this stuff is. | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | heh, that is stupid. | 11:23 |
| hyc | obviously they should only be changing behavior if the screen is currently set to auto mode. | 11:23 |
| hyc | if it's set to a manual brightness level, it should just behave normally. | 11:23 |
| manekineko | that doesn't sound like desired behavior really, would it be possible just to comment out the part where it disables the lights? | 11:24 |
| hyc | that's pretty much what I've done. | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:24 |
| hyc | in auto mode, it actually has a table of brightness values. | 11:24 |
| hyc | our config.xml had bogus values there | 11:24 |
| hyc | (in device/.../overlay/...) | 11:25 |
| hyc | so currently we have 4 auto brightness levels | 11:25 |
| hyc | the idea seems to be, in the two dimmest levels, also enable the key/button lights | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 11:25 |
| hyc | in the brighter levels don't bother, because you're probably in daylight. | 11:26 |
| manekineko | do the keys/button lights have adjustable brightness? | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that makes a little more sense | 11:26 |
| hyc | but our overlay appears to have been copied from the nexus-1, which has no keyboard | 11:26 |
| hyc | so the table for keyboard brightness was all zeros | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, AFAIK wistilt2 said yes but didn't bother with it. | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | i think he said it had more levels than the backlight lol | 11:26 |
| hyc | funny... | 11:27 |
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| hyc | I think userland just toggles 0/255 though | 11:27 |
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| manekineko | yep, updated initrd.gz and everything is working for USB mass storage now | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | "One of the biggest insurance companies in the world held a party for salesmen where they were rewarded with the services of prostitutes. " | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | sign me up | 11:43 |
| |Jeroen| | yeah lets drop those dinner checks and replace them with prostitutes | 11:46 |
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| hyc | ok, kernel patches for keyboard lights posted. userland patches posted, merge requests updated. | 12:07 |
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| NevroPus_ | Hi. I have a GSM touch pro 2, I have set force_cdma=0, but still can't get a signal. Any ideas why? And, is it fixed so the external speaker works along with the internal? So I can have a ringtone and still talk privately with someone? | 12:11 |
| NevroPus_ | saw that the sound was marked green, so guessing it should work, but have to check | 12:12 |
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| arrrghhh | NevroPus_, does sound not work...? | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | what build are you using? | 12:24 |
| Detule | omg i hate ubuntu | 12:27 |
| Detule | that's all | 12:28 |
| toadlife | n00butu? | 12:28 |
| toadlife | What's not to like? ;P | 12:28 |
| * toadlife says as he set's up his Ubuntu machines | 12:28 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:28 |
| Detule | wasted a day of my life trying to compile something on an ubuntu box | 12:29 |
| toadlife | Debian FTW | 12:30 |
| Detule | finally switched to my fedora box where i have no root access and it worked first try | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:31 |
| toadlife | or that.... | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | user error. | 12:31 |
| toadlife | :) | 12:31 |
| toadlife | On n00butu they are called 'luser errors' | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:32 |
| Detule | could be, i never thought i would run into a compiler error that would throw up 0 hits on google, but it happened on ubuntu | 12:32 |
| Detule | so it's likely my box wasn't setup correctly | 12:33 |
| toadlife | Detule, no surprising. Nobody compiles software on Ubuntu | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | i do | 12:34 |
| toadlife | The signal to noise ratio in Ubuntu focuses forums is way too high, so it's really hard to find solutions to actual problems | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | when i have to. | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | and i use ubuntu for that reason | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | because i can usually find solutions to my problems. | 12:34 |
| toadlife | lol | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | for better or worse, a lot of people use it. | 12:34 |
| toadlife | Yeah. I'm just being non-conformist | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:35 |
| toadlife | I use it. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really care. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | i use what works fo rme. | 12:35 |
| * toadlife ducks his head in shame | 12:35 | |
| arrrghhh | for8 | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean :P | 12:35 |
| toadlife | I've always hated Ubuntu's security setup with root disabled and wide open sudo. It | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea that didn't make any sense to me. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | meh. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's better than wide-open root :P | 12:35 |
| toadlife | Actually it's pretty much the same as wide open root. | 12:36 |
| toadlife | That's why I hate it | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's supposed to make ppl stop and think | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | if i'm putting sudo in front of this, what will it do | 12:36 |
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| arrrghhh | problem is, everyone puts sudo in front of everything. | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | no thought goes into the process | 12:36 |
| toadlife | Their default sudo setup is set to cache credentials for a few minutes. That means that any malware could lurk in the bakground and wait for the user to invoke sudo and then grab root | 12:36 |
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| arrrghhh | also, i'm a noob - how would root NOT be wide-open access? i thought that was the point of root. | 12:37 |
| toadlife | I wasn't saying users should log in as root for every day use. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | k. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | they would, i think is ubuntu's point. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | i see all sorts of posts on why can't i be root for this or that. | 12:38 |
| toadlife | heh | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | i want to log my DE in as root, what gives | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | dumb. | 12:38 |
| toadlife | usually the first thing I do in Ubuntu is sudo passwd root | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:39 |
| toadlife | Each to their own though | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 12:40 |
| toadlife | I've brought up the security vulnerability in their default sudo setup (any process running under the users account being able to lurk and grab root) in several discussions and every time it was like I walked into a baptist church and praised satan. | 12:41 |
| hyc | lol | 12:42 |
| hyc | they have some pretty odd notions about security... | 12:42 |
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| hyc | I'm personally annoyed at AppArmor, and their default policy preventing you from gdb'ing other processes that have your uid | 12:43 |
| hyc | totally ridiculous... | 12:43 |
| toadlife | gbs = debug? | 12:44 |
| toadlife | gdb | 12:44 |
| hyc | debugger, yes | 12:44 |
| hyc | normally you can debug any process you own | 12:44 |
| hyc | they change the default so that you can only debug a child process | 12:44 |
| toadlife | yeah, it would seem rational to be able to debug your OWN processes. ;P | 12:44 |
| hyc | which generally means, a process that you started in the debugger | 12:44 |
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| emwe | holy cow... | 13:09 |
| emwe | (0000/00000004) htcdataex.c [Line 624]: process_dataex: cmd=138, cntr=153, data=-100 | 13:09 |
| emwe | (0000/00000004) htcdataex.c [Line 192]: BATT_ALL: (data_1) = 19, (data_2) = 884, (data_3) = 3245, | 13:09 |
| emwe | (0000/00000004) htcdataex.c [Line 193]: BATT_ALL: (data_4) = 1131, (data_5) = 0 | 13:09 |
| emwe | arm9 diag output | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 13:09 |
| toadlife | This will of course, fix all of our problems, right? 'P | 13:13 |
| nautis | is it done yet?! | 13:14 |
| hyc | lol | 13:14 |
| toadlife | 10:17AM and my radio hasn't gone comatose yet. ;P I flash the latest Rhodium radio (*.95) last night. | 13:18 |
| hyc | cool | 13:19 |
| hyc | i'm not sure i'm getting valid results from the ambient light sensor | 13:20 |
| toadlife | Auto backlight is flaky. In daylight the screen does not brighten up like it should | 13:21 |
| hyc | tried in a completely dark room, no key/button lights | 13:21 |
| hyc | yeah, i noticed it's pretty flaky | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | don't tell WisTilt2 that :P | 13:22 |
| hyc | it's completely hw controlled? no sw intervention at all? | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | not sure | 13:24 |
| hyc | panel seems to vary even when ambient light is constant.... | 13:24 |
| hyc | well, seems like i'm not getting autorepeat bugs any more | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | i was pretty sure that bug NEVER happened before the kbd bl code. | 13:25 |
| hyc | cool | 13:25 |
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| Detule | Do you guys get adb functionality on a virtualbox guest (assume no root access on linux host/no adb)? | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | are you using the OSS version? | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | or the binary version | 13:52 |
| NevroPus_ | Damn, sound isn't working on touch pro 2 gsm. That is, I can call, but no ringtone. Any ideas | 13:53 |
| NevroPus_ | ? | 13:53 |
| NevroPus_ | Do I have to add external.rhod_speaker=1? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | do you have any ringtone selection? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | are you just making up options? | 13:53 |
| Detule | binary | 13:55 |
| NevroPus_ | external.rhod_speaker is a valid options. At least according to the wiki | 13:55 |
| NevroPus_ | but just makes the speaker noisy | 13:56 |
| nautis | rhod_everything_work=1 | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | it's a deprecated option if anything | 13:57 |
| NevroPus_ | I'm using the newest build, that is 2.2.2 FRX06 and XDANDROID.2.2.ASOP.29.7.10.RC2.1 | 13:57 |
| NevroPus_ | nautis: is that really an option?:P | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | NevroPus_, yea why don't you have that option :P | 13:58 |
| nautis | yes it isnt | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | NevroPus_, check the ringtones | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | is silent the only option? | 13:58 |
| NevroPus_ | arrrghhh: I have, non of them are playing | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | so they're there but they don't play? | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | you have the volume turned up!??! | 13:58 |
| NevroPus_ | No, I can set the sound on, put I don't hear anything | 13:59 |
| NevroPus_ | volume on full | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | this is clean | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | FRX06 | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | no changes | 13:59 |
| NevroPus_ | yes | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | that other one you listed i hop you're not running | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | july 29th is ancient. | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | hope* | 13:59 |
| NevroPus_ | yeah, but was the one listed in wiki, so I used that. | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | NevroPus_, you're the first to ever experience this issue. | 14:00 |
| NevroPus_ | Was also the newest I could find with ASOP | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | wait are you on that build now? | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | AOSP | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | you're a dangerous user it seems. | 14:00 |
| NevroPus_ | yeah, but switched system.ext2 with the one in version 2.2.2 FRX06 | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | knowledgeable enough to poke around, but dangerous in what you do. | 14:00 |
| NevroPus_ | nah, as long as I don't kill my phone I don't find it dangerous. Anything that can be fixed is safe:D | 14:01 |
| rpierce99 | NevroPus_: you should update to an all together new build, the system image is one thing but if you are running a rootfs and kernel from july of last year, you're going to have problems | 14:02 |
| NevroPus_ | ok, then I'll do that | 14:03 |
| NevroPus_ | thanks;) | 14:03 |
| NevroPus_ | but should I still use the ASOP builds? | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | AOSP | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | why not | 14:06 |
| NevroPus_ | Then the newest AOSP build is from November, which also seems quite a while ago | 14:07 |
| Detule | NevroPus_: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/140848-build-complete-froyo-bundle-frx06-stable-minor-fixes.html (Download full bundle and read carefully, come back thank arrrghhh and rpierce99) | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | NevroPus_, it's from March 2011 | 14:10 |
| NevroPus_ | yeah, that one, but not the AOSP build, but downloaded the full bundle now, so thanks for the help. Now I'll try it out | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | your words confuse me. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | (Updated Mar. 25 2011) | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | FRX06 | 14:12 |
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| toadlife | Linux weenies here: Where is a/the standard place on our phones to store a pid of a process in a file for later reference? '/data/misc/*' perhaps? | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | sounds dangerous | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | what are you doing? | 14:49 |
| toadlife | lol | 14:49 |
| toadlife | dangerous? | 14:50 |
| toadlife | Fixeing my dumplogs.sh script | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 14:50 |
| toadlife | It don't work so work so well since I switch to a partitioined build | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:50 |
| toadlife | I'm fixing once and for all | 14:50 |
| toadlife | I having the shell sript record it's shells' pid so that I I launch the script again it can kill the other instance of the script | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure where you stuff it for android | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't it usually go in like /var/run or smth? | 14:52 |
| toadlife | Well wifi, dhcps, bluetooth all keep their dynamic config stuff in folders under /data/misc | 14:53 |
| toadlife | lol Doe we even have a var? | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | stuff in in /data/misc, see what happens. | 14:54 |
| rpierce99 | wow this villa15 guys just keeps saying the same thing, you see it plays the HD videos but it's just in black and white | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | one track mind | 15:01 |
| toadlife | yeah I saw that. Had hyc laid into him good yet? | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | eh kinda | 15:01 |
| * toadlife gets popcorn | 15:01 | |
| arrrghhh | just said it probably won't work :P | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | i love how the dude refuses to test on XDAndroid build | 15:02 |
| toadlife | I tried that cyanogen build, and yeah there were some nice features, but not THAT nice. | 15:14 |
| toadlife | stock AOSP build is more than good enough for me | 15:14 |
| NevroPus_ | just wanted to thank the developers for making android run on my TP2. Now I can use a good OS on my cellphone the last three months of its life | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | last 3 months of its life? | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | you're planning on murdering your phone? | 15:31 |
| toadlife | Send it to me!! | 15:32 |
| NevroPus_ | arrrghhh: Yeah. It's almost dead, just have to wait untill I start working to change it | 15:32 |
| NevroPus_ | toadlife: You pay the transport? | 15:32 |
| toadlife | Where are you? | 15:33 |
| NevroPus_ | oslo, norway | 15:33 |
| toadlife | LOL. Nevermind | 15:33 |
| toadlife | Norway to CA might cost a bit | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | i have some friends in Norway | 15:33 |
| NevroPus_ | some, not too much though, if I send it as a letter. Don't have the box:P | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:35 |
| toadlife | No. It's okay. There are no phone carriers here that it would work with. Is it a stock TP2? | 15:36 |
| toadlife | No phone carriers that I would want anyway | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | he's probably got a RHOD100 | 15:36 |
| toadlife | *cough* At&T-Mobile | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | you're already there | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | you whore | 15:37 |
| toadlife | Just waiting for my contract to expire in August | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | contract. | 15:37 |
| toadlife | August 13th | 15:37 |
| toadlife | Well when T-Mo contracts expire you automatically go month-to-month but get to keep the contract terms/plan | 15:39 |
| toadlife | They only require you sell your soul when you buy a subsidized phone from them. | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | ofc | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | that's how all carriers work | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | well, in the US at least. | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i think that slickdaddy guy is a lost cause. | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | you can't fix stupid. | 16:03 |
| rpierce99 | man after using the bt/audio testing kernel for a few days it's sure nice to be back on the wistilt2 4/15 kernel, wake is sooooo fast | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | i noes | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | he needs to get that to the autobuild | 16:07 |
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| rpierce99 | i don't think anyone in this NAND thread speaks english, geeze | 16:09 |
| rpierce99 | well except for the devs | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:10 |
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| toadlife | Doh! no need to store the pid of my script. "pgrep" command has me covered. | 16:13 |
| dieter1981 | hello | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | dieter1981, hi. do you have a question? | 16:15 |
| dieter1981 | yes | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:15 |
| dieter1981 | i think it has been probably asked a thousand times | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 16:15 |
| emwe | this is a good opening :) | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | search turned up nada eh? | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, no joke :P | 16:15 |
| dieter1981 | but will there be a xdandroid version for imagio because i cant find anything | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | no | 16:16 |
| emwe | imagio? was that whitestone? | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 16:16 |
| dieter1981 | yes | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | dieter1981, no | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | not unless a dev pops up with the device... | 16:16 |
| emwe | it just misses kernel support no? wasn't it identical hw-wise? | 16:16 |
| dieter1981 | ooh ok isn't it possible . | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | and ports it | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i don't know what it's missing TBH | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | to my knowledge, no one has the device. | 16:16 |
| dieter1981 | aah ok | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | but the hardware is similar | 16:17 |
| emwe | so yeah, then it just misses support in the kernel. | 16:17 |
| dieter1981 | yeah i have no understanding on how to program stuff that's why i asked to you guys | 16:18 |
| dieter1981 | but thanx for the answer then i maybe better start looking for another pone if i want android not ? | 16:18 |
| emwe | hm, or get into kernel ;) | 16:18 |
| emwe | hm, that thing looks like a wrhod without keyb | 16:19 |
| dieter1981 | wrhod ? | 16:19 |
| emwe | world rhodium | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | dieter1981, have you tried booting it? | 16:19 |
| emwe | rhod400/500 | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | does it just fail..? | 16:19 |
| emwe | it likely will fail. there's no single line for the whitestone | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | but if the hardware matches... | 16:20 |
| emwe | no board files, nothing. whonder if it has a machine type assigned | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it won't be identical. | 16:20 |
| dieter1981 | i wanted to try the blackstone build but i was afraid of bricking my device | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | dieter1981, you can't brick it | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | unless you flash it | 16:20 |
| dieter1981 | aah ok | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | DON'T flash anything | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | if it's running off the SD... really no chance for brick. | 16:20 |
| dieter1981 | is it best that i return to stock rom to try it or could i do it with a custom rom | 16:21 |
| emwe | dieter1981: you won't get anywhere without kernel support. and all "builds" share more or less the same kernel | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | ROM doesn't matter | 16:21 |
| dieter1981 | ok | 16:22 |
| emwe | bad somehow | 16:22 |
| rpierce99 | some guy with a whitestone came in here a while back asking about haret machine type settings and such | 16:22 |
| rpierce99 | so someone has at least attempted | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:22 |
| rpierce99 | don't think he got very far | 16:22 |
| dieter1981 | yeah i read that some tried it but stopped or something | 16:22 |
| dieter1981 | it's a shame because i saw that lots of people like to try android on their imagio | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | not many people have that device... | 16:24 |
| dieter1981 | really i dunno | 16:24 |
| dieter1981 | i think i'm the only one in belgium lol because it didn't came in stores here | 16:24 |
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| emwe | oh eh, there is apparently people having android already up | 16:46 |
| emwe | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-imagio/104666-whitestone-android-booted.html | 16:46 |
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| stinebd | morning folks | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | afternoon stine | 18:39 |
| stinebd | live from taito, tokyo | 18:39 |
| rpierce99 | how's rapture day treating you | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it just hit | 18:40 |
| stinebd | it's not rapture day | 18:40 |
| stinebd | that was yesterday | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | the 21st? | 18:40 |
| rpierce99 | no it's saturday | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea dude, it's tomorrow. well, for you it's today. | 18:40 |
| stinebd | oh i thought it was the 20th | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | no | 18:40 |
| stinebd | shows how much i know about insane christians | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | evidently it ends on October 21st | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | so we'll surely all be dead by then. | 18:41 |
| stinebd | that's one hell of a long rapture | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'm glad the rapture will be long and drawn out. | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't want a quick apocalypse | 18:41 |
| rpierce99 | if people start dissappearing is it too late to start being good? or can you catch the tail end | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | good question | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | is there an #insane_christians or something? | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | #the_end_is_nigh | 18:42 |
| toadlife | Well it's the 21st over in Australia and according to reports no one has been raptured. I knew those Aussies were a bunch of heathens. | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | kiwis too eh? | 18:46 |
| toadlife | Kiwi's? Their "relations" with sheep will keep them out. | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | o right. | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | buncha sinners | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | aussies are just english people that couldn't pay their bills | 18:47 |
| toadlife | lol | 18:48 |
| toadlife | So I finished me logging script. Spent WAY to much time on it. It's a rare slow day here at work. | 18:49 |
| toadlife | I not only logs, but makes your bed, rubs your feet and makes angry birds run at 40fps | 18:49 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: did you ever find out if your pops flew my plane? | 18:50 |
| stinebd | if he did, tell him good job on the landing | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | he doesn't fly the 777 any more | 18:51 |
| stinebd | aww | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | so no mo narita | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea, oh well. | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | would've been funny :P | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | he still flies outta newark | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | just on the 757 mostly. sometimes the 767 | 18:52 |
| stinebd | tiny little things | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | he does miss the 777 | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | nice airplane. | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, you thar? | 19:21 |
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| arrrghhh | hmph | 19:21 |
| toadlife | YOU KILLED HIM! | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | first to be raptured | 19:22 |
| toadlife | heh | 19:22 |
| toadlife | Oh gawd. That guide by manekineko is going to confuse the hell out of the n00bs | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | the su one? | 19:23 |
| toadlife | yeah | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | he can have fun supporting it :P | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | it shouldn't be that difficult to implement. | 19:24 |
| toadlife | I think hyc said that all you have to do is delete the su from/bin and put the new one in /system/bin or /system/xbin | 19:24 |
| toadlife | Much simpler | 19:25 |
| toadlife | The bind mounts in /init are still an issue though | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | those need to be cleaned up | 19:28 |
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| ryannathans | arrrghhh> aussies are just english people that couldn't pay their bills - rofl | 21:51 |
| stinebd | haha | 21:52 |
| ryannathans | I worked out how to fix the letter repeating problem after spending a few days on it, then as soon an im finished i get an email from the mailing list and someone had already done it and was commiting... D: | 22:00 |
| rpierce99 | suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrreeeee ya did | 22:00 |
| ryannathans | :P was easy | 22:00 |
| ryannathans | but never got kernel to compile | 22:01 |
| ryannathans | took quite some time to work it out | 22:01 |
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| ryannathans | Whats up with some people talking about testing BT? | 22:16 |
| slickdaddy96 | What's up with people talking crap about people on here would by my question. :-( | 22:18 |
| ryannathans | did you end up getting that fixed | 22:18 |
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| ryannathans | ohai toadlife | 22:21 |
| toadlife | hey | 22:21 |
| slickdaddy96 | working on it as we speak no thanks to them, I was just asking for a link. All that crap cost them a donation from me. | 22:22 |
| ryannathans | whats up with some people claiming they have bluetooth working? | 22:22 |
| ryannathans | I haven't seen any threads on it 0.o | 22:22 |
| toadlife | slickdaddy96: The devs here aren't doing it for the money. | 22:23 |
| toadlife | ryan: It;s in the audio routing thread. | 22:24 |
| toadlife | BT working like a champ! | 22:24 |
| toadlife | apologies for the rude comments slickdaddy96. Us IT nerd types are assholes. arrrghhh especially | 22:25 |
| toadlife | In fact, I bet arrrghhh has an extra asshole just in case he runs out. | 22:26 |
| slickdaddy96 | no problems... | 22:26 |
| ryannathans | win. | 22:27 |
| ryannathans | after i come back from cricket I shall have BT working. mwahahaha | 22:27 |
| toadlife | TIP: Don't bind mount the files. Remount your filesystems and copy them in. bind mounting seems to cause it to not work for some unknown reason | 22:28 |
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| toadlife | arrrghhh >slickdaddy96 as usual is failing at life. | 22:34 |
| toadlife | Yeah, that was harsh. ;P | 22:34 |
| jcmsVEN | hi...I receive android.process.acoreunespected error continuely | 22:34 |
| jcmsVEN | Any ideas? | 22:34 |
| rpierce99 | jcmsVEN: corrupted permissions in android most likely, grab the fix_permissions script from cyanogenmod and run it with ADB | 22:34 |
| jcmsVEN | mmmm How-to-do it URL please....sorry | 22:35 |
| slickdaddy96 | toadlife: he was just pissed about me going off in him the forums for being an asshole earlier. I got thick skin, I just think he thought I was so stupid I couldn't use IRC? :-) | 22:36 |
| rpierce99 | !g cyanogen fix_permissions | 22:36 |
| rpierce99 | damnit what is xdandroids google command | 22:37 |
| toadlife | is is just me, or is Android is kind of fragile. :\ Is there a more robust filesystem that we could use? | 22:40 |
| rpierce99 | i don't think it's android, pretty sure if we were able to cleanly dismount the file system every shutdown we wouldn't have half of these problems | 22:40 |
| toadlife | I'm not blaming Android. I'm blaming ext2 | 22:41 |
| jcmsVEN | using startup file? | 22:41 |
| rpierce99 | jcmsVEN: you talkin to me? | 22:41 |
| jcmsVEN | LOL....I suposed.... | 22:42 |
| rpierce99 | then you're going to have to try again, no idea what you just asked | 22:42 |
| jcmsVEN | (I don't know) | 22:42 |
| toadlife | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cyanogen+fix_permissions | 22:43 |
| toadlife | jcmsVEN - you will need to run teh script via adb | 22:44 |
| toadlife | Your other option is to delete yolur data.img. You will lose your custom settings/apps if you do that | 22:45 |
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| hyc | well it's my work and my webserver. I don't want those urls posted in the forums. | 23:05 |
| hyc | I put files up for testing here, that's it. | 23:06 |
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| hyc | if random people who weren't helping me test are downloading them I'll simply delte the files. | 23:07 |
| hyc | when I hae something to share with the public I post it on the forums. If I don't post, then it means it's not ready. | 23:08 |
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| hyc | And yeah, that's why my rootfs has a shutdown service, to cleanly unmount /data. | 23:15 |
| slickdaddy96 | I completely understand what you are saying hyc, my issue was them leading me along just to waste my time and piss me off really on purpose. What you just said is all they had to say to me, and I wouldn't have pursued it anymore. | 23:18 |
| slickdaddy96 | For the record I am not some dumb newb. I have been on here since 2009, and never usually have that much issues patching stuff or testing stuff, but I have big problems when people don't give full information to me or at least explain to me that they can't give me the full info and waste my time. | 23:20 |
| * nautis eats popcorn | 23:27 | |
| nautis | really looking forward to the new FRX release | 23:42 |
| nautis | things seem to be really clicking | 23:43 |
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| hyc | at any rate, I've submitted my source patches to gitorious. I'm as eager to see a clean new release as anyone. | 23:53 |
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| stinebd | not gonna happen this week ;) | 23:57 |
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