| arrrghhh | heh | 00:00 | 
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| arrrghhh | success! it did nothing. | 00:00 | 
| Entropy512 | ok back to watching some TV while I test tiad8's Market APK again to see if it goes splodey splodey again | 00:03 | 
| odz | heh | 00:03 | 
| rpierce99 | the RIL we're using today is the vogue community ril 0.8, the one we're looking at here is 1.6 | 00:05 | 
| arrrghhh | damn | 00:05 | 
| arrrghhh | so we've missed a few patches. | 00:05 | 
| odz | maybe the ril taid8 replaced in his "final" rom is just a updated vouge ril? | 00:07 | 
| arrrghhh | he claimed to have kanged from hero folk | 00:08 | 
| arrrghhh | but, ofc he never provided me source | 00:08 | 
| odz | well after a few days of trying it def seems different | 00:08 | 
| odz | still cant get it to sod or reboot | 00:09 | 
| Entropy512 | <arrrghhh> success! it did nothing. - pretty much what our GPS code does whenever an app does loc/time injection. :P | 00:09 | 
| Entropy512 | ok, on its own, the Market APK from tiad8's FRX RED is a steaming turd reliability-wise - but the build may also have something else the APK wants to work properly. | 00:10 | 
| Entropy512 | this time around it asked for me to accept the TOS again | 00:11 | 
| Entropy512 | then it died | 00:11 | 
| rpierce99 | gogo stubs for everything! Bool stub() { return true; } | 00:11 | 
| Entropy512 | and repeatedly FCed thereafter | 00:11 | 
| Entropy512 | forum posts for other ripped "market updates" kinda implied that they required other libs - specific details unknown | 00:11 | 
| Entropy512 | gonna watch TV while googling on the netbook | 00:12 | 
| Entropy512 | and tomorrow the old market is going back until I figure this out (prolly not for a while - out tomm night, cleaning Thurs, likely family visit until Tues after that) | 00:12 | 
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, yea i tried to get cotulla to look at gps stuff | 00:13 | 
| arrrghhh | xtra, etc. | 00:13 | 
| arrrghhh | he didn't seem interested | 00:13 | 
| arrrghhh | told me to read a book for the 15 minutes it takes to get a lock :P | 00:13 | 
| odz | hah | 00:14 | 
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| Entropy512 | write once run anywhere my fucking ass | 00:52 | 
| Entropy512 | how many different variants of market 2.3.4 can there be? | 00:52 | 
| Entropy512 | it's supposed to be Java | 00:52 | 
| Entropy512 | back to TV | 00:52 | 
| Entropy512 | this night is proving to be epic fail | 00:52 | 
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| hyc | There are different apks for different screen rez. Aside from that, 2.3.4 ought to be 2.3.4 everywhere | 04:01 | 
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| Recnamoruen | anybody alive? | 05:42 | 
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| Entropy512 | hyc: thanks for the info. So far I don't think I've had any 2.3.4 APK work - they either don't appear in the apps drawer at all, or they insta-FC. tiad8's is a bit older and sort of works, but FCs often | 07:42 | 
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Scott C.! | 09:28 | 
| hyc | looks like forcing 2G stops SoD for me. | 10:08 | 
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| hyc | OK, our ril and the one on sourceforge diverged after 2009-10-11 | 12:13 | 
| hyc | they were identical up to that point | 12:13 | 
| hyc | but it looks like there may be overlapping fixes from various people since then | 12:13 | 
| hyc | don't think I can just do a git merge | 12:14 | 
| arrrghhh | bummer | 12:14 | 
| hyc | and not sure how to cherry pick stuff so I don't lose the original history | 12:14 | 
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| arrrghhh | all part of the fun i guess. | 12:19 | 
| hyc | heh | 12:19 | 
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| hyc | I may just toss everything in and damn the history | 12:19 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:19 | 
| hyc | yeah, there are multi-chunk commits in both repos that just say fixes from some other tree | 12:30 | 
| hyc | so they didn't preserve histroy either | 12:30 | 
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| Edwin__ | hi | 13:03 | 
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| hyc | I have a mostly merged libhtcgeneric-ril now | 17:24 | 
| hyc | and now the 2G checkbox works, yay | 17:24 | 
| hyc | will take a few hours of idle time to see if it affects the SoD | 17:25 | 
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| hyc | what do you CDMA users see for data icons now anyway? 3G, what else? | 17:38 | 
| arrrghhh | E | 17:39 | 
| arrrghhh | i've seen G sometimes, very rarely. | 17:39 | 
| hyc | there are more fixes in the androidhtc branch for CDMA | 17:39 | 
| arrrghhh | but that's all gsm crap | 17:39 | 
| hyc | I dunno if I should pull them in, if your data indicators are already working | 17:39 | 
| arrrghhh | well | 17:40 | 
| arrrghhh | working... yes | 17:40 | 
| arrrghhh | correctly? no. | 17:40 | 
| arrrghhh | they display gsm statuses | 17:40 | 
| hyc | well, that's probably all that your theme icons supply | 17:41 | 
| hyc | mebbe not | 17:41 | 
| hyc | I see the values ranging from 1 to 9 so maybe there are more icons too | 17:41 | 
| hyc | What does a native android CDMA phone display? 1X etc? | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | 1x | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | ev | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | that's all i see in winmo at least :P | 17:42 | 
| hyc | yeah but that's winmo | 17:43 | 
| arrrghhh | why would it be different in android? | 17:43 | 
| arrrghhh | radio tech is the same :P | 17:43 | 
| hyc | if the framework guys never allocated an icon for those statuses | 17:43 | 
| arrrghhh | considering stine's hatred for cdma | 17:44 | 
| hyc | also found some bugs in the androidhtc code, a switch case missing a break. silly stuff. | 17:45 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | that's... kinda sad. | 17:46 | 
| hyc | yeah | 17:46 | 
| hyc | so what does your /sys/clas/htc_hw/radio say? | 17:47 | 
| hyc | and is yours a world phone? or CDMA only? | 17:47 | 
| arrrghhh | world phone | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | all CDMA RHOD's are 'world phones' fyi ;) | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | GSM | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | you missed an s :P | 17:48 | 
| hyc | oh, ok | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | but i figured that out all on mah own.' | 17:48 | 
| hyc | heh | 17:49 | 
| arrrghhh | however, when i boot the phone says "GSM PHONE FOUND" | 17:49 | 
| arrrghhh | when obviously it's not a gsm phone. | 17:49 | 
| hyc | well.... it's got both, how does it know which network to try... | 17:50 | 
| arrrghhh | magic | 17:50 | 
| arrrghhh | black magic probably. | 17:50 | 
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| odz | hyc can i test your merged libhtcgeneric-ril? | 18:11 | 
| hyc | sure | 18:11 | 
| hyc | where should I upload it? | 18:11 | 
| odz | http://www.zshare.net/ | 18:12 | 
| hyc | what type of phone / network are you on? gsm? | 18:12 | 
| odz | rhod400 cdma | 18:12 | 
| odz | boost mobile | 18:12 | 
| hyc | ok | 18:12 | 
| hyc | I haven't pulled in all of the patches yet | 18:12 | 
| hyc | will probably recompile in a little while | 18:12 | 
| odz | once you pull in everything i'll be glad to help you test it :) | 18:13 | 
| hyc | eh... here: http://highlandsun.com/hyc/libhtcgeneric-ril.so | 18:13 | 
| hyc | this is what I'm running at tyhe moment | 18:13 | 
| odz | where are you pull patches from? vouge? | 18:13 | 
| odz | pulling* | 18:14 | 
| hyc | http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/ril.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/gingerbread | 18:14 | 
| odz | nice | 18:14 | 
| odz | i've always wonder if those patches would make any difference for tp2's | 18:14 | 
| hyc | like I said earlier in this chat, ours was identical up to 2009-10-11 | 18:14 | 
| odz | damn thats old | 18:15 | 
| hyc | I've pulled in most of the later ones already | 18:15 | 
| hyc | some were already fixed in our current one. but several months later. | 18:16 | 
| odz | oh | 18:16 | 
| hyc | does CDMA even have a 2G checkbox? | 18:18 | 
| odz | ya | 18:18 | 
| hyc | ok | 18:18 | 
| hyc | looks like it's unsupported on this code tho | 18:19 | 
| odz | oh :/ guess ill wait for you to recompile with more patches than | 18:20 | 
| hyc | ok | 18:20 | 
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| odz | hyc check this out http://87.238.52.168/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril | 18:31 | 
| odz | http://87.238.52.168/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril/commit/26f93dbfb6fa8914d84cfd76845c33ea97305fa9 | 18:34 | 
| hyc | yes | 18:34 | 
| odz | has tp2 support | 18:34 | 
| hyc | yes, that's the tree where xda's ril comes from | 18:34 | 
| odz | oh | 18:35 | 
| hyc | all of that is already in the ril that's normally distributed | 18:35 | 
| hyc | sigh, just found a memory leak in this ril | 18:35 | 
| arrrghhh | our | 18:36 | 
| arrrghhh | s | 18:36 | 
| arrrghhh | or your new hodgepodge :P | 18:36 | 
| hyc | everyone's | 18:36 | 
| hyc | no, not the new stuff | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | o | 18:37 | 
| hyc | NITZtime, whenever we get an unsolicited time report from the network, it can leak | 18:37 | 
| hyc | depending on the format of the msg from the network | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:37 | 
| hyc | so, maybe there is no leak, if we never get the wrong msg type ;) | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | i hope wistilt2's new code drops soon | 18:38 | 
| arrrghhh | soooo much cdma crap to flesh out, guy's a saint considering he has no CDMA device to test with. | 18:38 | 
| hyc | RSSI also has a leak | 18:38 | 
| hyc | so whenever the modem reports signal strength... | 18:38 | 
| Entropy512 | oooh that's not good | 18:40 | 
| Entropy512 | since we get that any time our bars change on GSM | 18:40 | 
| Entropy512 | @HTCCSQ unsols | 18:40 | 
| Entropy512 | hyc: xda's ril isn't from http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_xdandroid-ril ? | 18:42 | 
| hyc | yes it is | 18:42 | 
| hyc | but if you look at the history, it came from the other | 18:42 | 
| Entropy512 | ah, that's what you meant above | 18:43 | 
| arrrghhh | yea our RIL is from the vogue folks. | 18:43 | 
| hyc | http://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-hardware_xdandroid-ril/commits/androidhtc1 | 18:46 | 
| hyc | now you can grab the source that I'm working on | 18:46 | 
| Entropy512 | as to the leak, is that because char * line = NULL is not declared static? | 18:46 | 
| Entropy512 | so * line keeps getting allocated by strdup() w/o getting freed? | 18:46 | 
| hyc | even if it were static it wouuld still get overwritten | 18:47 | 
| Entropy512 | hmm, yeah good point | 18:47 | 
| hyc | if you don't free first before you overwrite, you still leak | 18:47 | 
| hyc | this is all pretty sloppy code... | 18:47 | 
| hyc | like they forgot they weren't in java any more :P | 18:47 | 
| Entropy512 | hahahah | 18:48 | 
| odz | looks like the xdandroid ril got a few commits today | 18:49 | 
| hyc | arrrghhh: pretty sure Android doesn't have any types for CDMA networks | 18:49 | 
| hyc | grep'ing the source tree for NETWORK_TYPE_ constants | 18:50 | 
| Entropy512 | odz: hyc's branch did, not the mainline ones | 18:50 | 
| Entropy512 | wonder if CM adds them on CDMA devices | 18:50 | 
| hyc | they're all EDGE/GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA | 18:50 | 
| Entropy512 | even in cyanogenmod for CDMA devices? | 18:52 | 
| Entropy512 | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/vendor/st-ericsson/u300.git;a=summary - this is supposedly a fork of our RIL according to http://mcbridematt.dhs.org/mobile/blog/?p=39, but it's heavily rearchitected. | 18:53 | 
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea cmda has nothing | 18:55 | 
| arrrghhh | really amazed it worked at all, no joke. | 18:56 | 
| hyc | heh | 18:56 | 
| hyc | ok, I'm gonna ignore y'all for a while and finish this patch | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | cdma | 18:57 | 
| arrrghhh | sorry | 18:58 | 
| Entropy512 | ok heading out for a while | 19:00 | 
| stinebd | netbooks are so slow | 19:34 | 
| stinebd | i need a fast netbook | 19:34 | 
| arrrghhh | notbook | 19:34 | 
| arrrghhh | as engadget likes to say | 19:34 | 
| stinebd | engadget is a bunch of tartcakes | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i had a question for you. probably a retarded one, related to compcache. | 19:35 | 
| stinebd | wtf do i know about compcache | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | ok, nothing evidently. | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | i figured you'd know something | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | pros/cons etc. | 19:35 | 
| stinebd | modprobe ramzswap | 19:35 | 
| stinebd | the end | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess there's some other modules too? | 19:35 | 
| stinebd | thats why you modprobe and not insmod | 19:36 | 
| arrrghhh | related to lz compression or some such nonsense. | 19:36 | 
| stinebd | pros = you gain the difference in ram created by compression | 19:36 | 
| stinebd | cons = it's actually swap and compression isn't as fast as ram | 19:37 | 
| stinebd | it's fairly pointless on our hardware | 19:37 | 
| hyc | the lz code is built into the kernel now, not a separate module | 19:37 | 
| hyc | ramzswap is still separate | 19:37 | 
| arrrghhh | hyc, ah good to know. | 19:37 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, which we enable. | 19:38 | 
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| stinebd | so | 19:40 | 
| hyc | OK, there's a bunch of info available for CDMA, none of it is present in the current ril | 19:41 | 
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5836166&postcount=800 | 19:41 | 
| arrrghhh | hyc, wistilt2's ril has that already. | 19:42 | 
| arrrghhh | the BSINFO stuffs | 19:42 | 
| hyc | ok | 19:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i've seen valid data spat out in mah logs from testing his RIL | 19:42 | 
| arrrghhh | valid netloc data sorry | 19:42 | 
| hyc | good, then I'll ignore it here | 19:42 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:42 | 
| hyc | since I don't know what each number means | 19:43 | 
| stinebd | hyc: fair warning, wistilt2 has professional ril slaves at work, so whatever you're doing is likely to be unmergeable | 19:43 | 
| hyc | but in fact the RIL header file does define EVDO and other CDMA types | 19:43 | 
| hyc | stinebd: that's fine | 19:43 | 
| hyc | sounds like he's doing a ground up rewrite tho | 19:43 | 
| stinebd | not quite, but our ril is so fucked that it'll seem like it | 19:44 | 
| hyc | which means none of this line of development will go any further forward | 19:44 | 
| hyc | but in the meantime, I have something to work with... | 19:44 | 
| arrrghhh | he'll make the RIL OS | 19:44 | 
| stinebd | os? | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | he legally has to :P | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | open source | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | OSS didn't seem to apply | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | although you probably would've known what i meant | 19:45 | 
| hyc | and right now, no SoDs with my ril on my phone after 90 minutes. woohoo | 19:45 | 
| stinebd | he's not legally obligated to open-source it actually | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | the RIL? | 19:45 | 
| stinebd | yes | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | i thought our RIL was GPL? no? | 19:45 | 
| stinebd | it's apache | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | oh. | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, he doesn't then. | 19:46 | 
| stinebd | please don't tell him | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol i won't | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | i really want this code to be open. | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lots of other devices will probably benefit | 19:46 | 
| stinebd | sometimes i hate linux desktop apps | 19:47 | 
| stinebd | if i right click on a system tray icon and hit close, I FREAKING MEAN IT DONT ASK ME | 19:47 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:47 | 
| hyc | ok, now to leave it in 3G mode and see if it dies | 19:56 | 
| hyc | If anyone wants to give it a spin, attached here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12334841&postcount=13 | 20:08 | 
| odz | awesome | 20:08 | 
| arrrghhh | i sees | 20:08 | 
| hyc | I doubt it will actually be much better on CDMA | 20:09 | 
| arrrghhh | good stuff, thanks hyc | 20:09 | 
| arrrghhh | probably not :P | 20:09 | 
| hyc | all that netloc stuff is missing | 20:09 | 
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| hyc | interesting. the phone was asleep for an hour and then something woke it up. orange LED, black screen. but this time no hang. | 21:32 | 
| hyc | so I think this RIL is working better | 21:32 | 
| hyc | logcat shows a CheckinTask that keeps trying to connect to google | 21:33 | 
| hyc | and failing, since my SIM card has no data plan | 21:33 | 
| Entropy512 | I think that's market-related | 21:33 | 
| hyc | well, this might be the periodic wakeup | 21:33 | 
| hyc | and I thought I turned all of these background update checks off already | 21:34 | 
| Entropy512 | you can force checkin with *#*#CHECKIN#*#* - consistently fails on my phone | 21:36 | 
| hyc | I'll switch wifi on for a few minutes and see if that makes it go away for a while | 21:36 | 
| Entropy512 | grr for some reason Firefox considers our devices to be incompatible | 21:47 | 
| arrrghhh | i noticed that | 21:47 | 
| arrrghhh | i wonder if market enabler will help... | 21:47 | 
| hyc | oh, dmesg still shows that "END CALL triggered without being in a call!" | 21:50 | 
| hyc | but now it no longer hangs. | 21:51 | 
| hyc | mebbe some process's alarm clock is getting wires crossed? | 21:51 | 
| arrrghhh | i wonder what that error means | 21:53 | 
| Entropy512 | aaaaaaaahhh figured it out (Firefox, that is) | 21:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i know wistilt2 put it in thar | 21:53 | 
| Entropy512 | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#System_Requirements | 21:53 | 
| arrrghhh | but wtf does it mean | 21:53 | 
| Entropy512 | Firefox only supports ARMv7 | 21:53 | 
| Entropy512 | we're on an ARMv6. :( | 21:53 | 
| arrrghhh | aw | 21:54 | 
| arrrghhh | recommends 512mb of ram too | 21:54 | 
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| Entropy512 | I wish parallel kingdom ran faster on my Tilt2 | 22:00 | 
| Entropy512 | it's almost unplayable - guessing probably memory | 22:00 | 
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