| odz | ya | 00:00 |
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| arrrghhh | Oo | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | using acl's recovery? | 00:00 |
| odz | http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6495 | 00:00 |
| odz | ^ | 00:00 |
| odz | one of the mods want you to test :P | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | always on his forum tho :P | 00:01 |
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| arrrghhh | not even sure if i have a user acct there | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | i probably do | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | knowing me | 00:01 |
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| arrrghhh | lol, i was just about to tell him to go away. | 00:01 |
| odz | heh | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | skia-bug | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | ?? | 00:01 |
| odz | *shrugs* crazy talk | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | heh i haz login | 00:04 |
| odz | he has some pics up of it here http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6486 | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | CM has some interesting things | 00:04 |
| odz | ya | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd has a rabid hatred for it, but there is something nice about clean AOSP | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | always good to have options too :D | 00:05 |
| odz | yep :P | 00:05 |
| rpierce99 | they really need to get the panel fixes into the nand kernel, he seems to be hating the wake issues | 00:05 |
| odz | ya that seems to be what hes stuck at | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 needs to clean up his fixes and commit | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | he hasn't completely resolved the wake issues | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | but they're certainly better. | 00:07 |
| rpierce99 | but from the sounds of it nand doesn't even have the most recent batch of panel fixes that are in the autobuild kernels | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | there's a lot the nand tree doesn't have | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK acl is the only one pushing commits to that tree | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol that was my 4th post on the neopeek forums. | 00:08 |
| odz | what i've found is the 30secs to sleep problem happens only when data is enabled. if i run a build that needs data enabled manually i get instant sleeps even after making calls sending txt and wifi on | 00:10 |
| rpierce99 | yeah its the switching of data modes, 3g to E | 00:11 |
| rpierce99 | happens on cdma every time you make a call | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | odz, you gsm? | 00:11 |
| odz | without data everything is super stable with very little failed wakes over a 12hr period | 00:11 |
| odz | nope rhod400 | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | the RIL is a huge issue | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | and from what wistilt2 has found, there was basically no code for CDMA | 00:12 |
| odz | im using taid8's 2.2.2 crap | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | he said he kanged the hero RIL for his newest mess | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | looks like it's having a ton of issues with audio | 00:12 |
| odz | i got lazy and didnt setup the apn and notice how stable it was | 00:12 |
| odz | oh | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | his 'final build'? | 00:13 |
| odz | ya | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling he's going to pull another favre again. | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | not on xda :{ | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | err | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | :P | 00:13 |
| odz | "FROYO X GINGER CDMA" <--data | 00:14 |
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| odz | that* | 00:14 |
| odz | o.O | 00:14 |
| rpierce99 | wtf is with the naming on that build, is it froyo, or gingerbread, who knows | 00:14 |
| MassStashMobile | yaaic has a koo ui... | 00:14 |
| rpierce99 | congrats on getting your env set up MassStashMobile | 00:15 |
| odz | well i had only 2 failed wakes in 12hrs of heavy usage with that build so i guess he must have kanged some pretty good stuff for that build | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | does the kernel blink green when going to sleep? | 00:16 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: lol | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99 knows where i'm going with this | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen a lot of noobs asking about why their phones are doing that | 00:17 |
| rpierce99 | wouldn't that be a lovely parting FU to arrrghhh and WisTilt2 | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | and that really makes me wonder what tiad8's been bundling... | 00:17 |
| odz | nah lol im using the latest xdandroid autobuild | 00:17 |
| MassStash | rpierce99, thank you sir. definately digging the home key = end and endcall = back mute button | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | odz, i mean on tiad8's build | 00:17 |
| odz | nope it goes from orange to green | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | k | 00:18 |
| odz | no blinking | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's odd | 00:18 |
| odz | its not instant tho | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | the failed wake issue... | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder. | 00:18 |
| odz | maybe 1-2secs | 00:18 |
| odz | it even sleeps for hours with wifi enabled which i found really odd | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | how's battery life | 00:20 |
| odz | awesome | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | eh i need data. | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | i wish that little bastard would tell us where he is getting his shit from. outrageous. | 00:21 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: there aren't many people out there calculating % drain/hr on a regular basis :) | 00:21 |
| odz | 12hrs android says 50% | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | although stine makies a good point, we probably can't use it | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | a lot of it | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea... it's hard to tell | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | but they sure do complain if the battery life is poor, that's the diff rpierce99 :P | 00:21 |
| odz | arrrghhh give his build a try and you see what im talking about | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | odz, that goes against a lot i stand for. | 00:23 |
| odz | i know :/ | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:24 |
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| arrrghhh | maybe we can kang his crap | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | and improve it | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i f-ing want to do | 00:24 |
| odz | now i see why you dont like him | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | just need to know where he's getting his shit from. | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 00:24 |
| odz | hes doing shit but not saying how he did it | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | i PM'd him | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | and he told me he got it from the hero | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | but that's it | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | that he 'modded' a RIL from the hero | 00:26 |
| odz | the cdma one? | 00:26 |
| odz | or gsm? | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | i assume both? | 00:26 |
| odz | that would explain it then | 00:26 |
| rpierce99 | that's probably why he split his builds | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | he made a gsm and cdma build for his final crap | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | didn't he? | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:26 |
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| odz | he still put warez in those builds tho | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | dumbass. | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | they're gonna get pulled | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | surprised they haven't already tbh. | 00:28 |
| odz | tapatalkpro lgCamera fxcamera Titanium_Backup | 00:29 |
| odz | he has them in \files\APPS | 00:30 |
| odz | ohh but wait! | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | titanium backup? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's free | 00:32 |
| odz | its ok he made a build without paided apps | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | unless he bundled the donate version? | 00:32 |
| odz | stock apps only. very clean build (NO PAID APPS) | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | but he still has builds with paid apps | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | he really doesn't get it. | 00:33 |
| odz | heh so theres 2 builds, one with paided apps and another without | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | jeez. | 00:34 |
| odz | http://www.zshare.net/download/880577486f5b9b70/ | 00:37 |
| odz | thats the ril hes using | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | that's just the so tho | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | .so that is | 00:39 |
| odz | its dated 3/1/11 compared to 3/18/11 for everything else so he definitely replaced it | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | he definitely said he did. | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i could instruct people how to kang his crap and put it into XDAndroid. perhaps none of it will officially make it into XDAndroid. | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | because with some of those proprietary libs... | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 00:50 |
| odz | i mean it works reallly good | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | I WANT SOURCE | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 00:50 |
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| arrrghhh | damn | 01:08 |
| odz | ? | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | neopeek's cm7 failed to boot | 01:08 |
| odz | damn | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | he didn't include the android update | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | just the install | 01:08 |
| odz | :/ | 01:09 |
| arrrghhh | and it coughed up an error, i was just using the update from the NAND autobuild. | 01:09 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder why it failed on that tho | 01:09 |
| arrrghhh | i would think it would continue and wifi would just be borked... hrm. | 01:09 |
| odz | what was the error? | 01:09 |
| arrrghhh | Moduesl are not installed. Download the matching androidupdate.tgz and put it in your andboot folder. | 01:10 |
| arrrghhh | then it's cycling some jibberish, can't make heads or tails of it. seems borked tho. | 01:10 |
| odz | ya | 01:13 |
| odz | looks like hes using a dif kernel o.O | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | he's on GSM too, that could be deadly. | 01:13 |
| odz | i see 2.6.29.6-CyanogenMod | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 01:13 |
| odz | in \system\lib\modules\ | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | android installing... | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | trying frx05 this time. | 01:20 |
| odz | wonder how much it has improved since | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | we shall see | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't seen acl's new recovery either. | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | new script installs it for me. | 01:20 |
| odz | nice | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | those guys are doin great work on NAND | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | hoping it'll revitalize development. | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | need to get wistilt2 to look at .35 as well | 01:21 |
| odz | ya 2.6.27 is getting pretty dated | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | plus our tree is a mess | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | lots of messy commits | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | need to start with a new base | 01:22 |
| PHiZ_ | Launch every zig | 01:23 |
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| arrrghhh | d'oh | 01:40 |
| arrrghhh | odz, i thought that was a NAND build for some reason. | 01:40 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 01:41 |
| arrrghhh | that would've been awesome if it worked tho lol | 01:41 |
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| hyc | shit. AT&T is going to buy T-Mobile? I hate AT&T | 02:41 |
| hyc | er, Cingular. those guys totally sucked. | 02:42 |
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| eee | hi | 02:50 |
| eee | i downloaded FRX05 | 02:50 |
| eee | n there is no terminal emualtor installed | 02:50 |
| eee | How do I access tis or is there a workaround? | 02:51 |
| eee | .. | 02:51 |
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| testasdf | hello | 06:39 |
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| Entropy512 | looking at some of the questions above | 07:47 |
| Entropy512 | someone should post a FAQ about how to get Spare Parts back | 07:48 |
| Entropy512 | and as far as the terminal emulator | 07:48 |
| Entropy512 | ... market dude | 07:48 |
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| emwe | Entropy512: hi andy. your gps fix fix is perceived well and working just fine? | 10:19 |
| rpierce99 | emwe: it works as advertised for me, doesn't lock in africa any more | 10:23 |
| emwe | rpierce99: nice. if no one beats me to it, i am going to take a look at it. | 10:24 |
| emwe | but i first have to get sth fixed on .35 | 10:24 |
| rpierce99 | really there's only one line of substance, the rest is logging output | 10:24 |
| emwe | can't really test on ginger+35. too lazy to switch setup. :) | 10:26 |
| rpierce99 | did you get your new rhod emwe? | 10:29 |
| emwe | rpierce99: no, not yet. it's likely being treated in the toll office again. | 10:29 |
| emwe | like the raph. | 10:29 |
| emwe | hopefully it goes through without fees. | 10:29 |
| rpierce99 | seems odd to charge fees to import something, but a mogul of international tax law I am not | 10:30 |
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| Tandy|7540 | what's an ETA on netloc and GPS in Gingerbread? | 10:52 |
| rpierce99 | cdma netloc doesn't even work in froyo | 10:53 |
| rpierce99 | libgps needs rewritten for gingerbread, i'm not sure there is an eta | 10:54 |
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| Tandy|7540 | ah | 10:58 |
| Tandy|7540 | So my phone was using the gps instead of netloc? | 10:58 |
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| * Tandy|7540 wonders if "Don't pull a Tandyman" will ever catch on | 11:23 | |
| Tandy|7540 | 'cos I just did. | 11:23 |
| Tandy|7540 | Earlier, I'd tried out gingerbread, and went back to froyo because gingerbread kept crashing | 11:23 |
| Tandy|7540 | ...it was crashing because I was a retard and was trying to do a bunch of stuff IMMEDIATELY after first boot, so I'd run out of resources, stuff would crash, and I'd give up in frustration. | 11:23 |
| Tandy|7540 | Now that I know better, and have left it running for about 10 minutes then rebooted, gingerbread is AMAZING | 11:24 |
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| rpierce99 | tiad8 and all his builds just got kickbanned from ppcg also | 12:33 |
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| odz | yep | 12:38 |
| odz | he still had a few paided apps in his "final" release | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | i'm just glad all of the begging tiad8 to stay posts are going to stop | 12:39 |
| odz | ya | 12:39 |
| Tandy|7540 | awesome | 12:44 |
| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh will be pleased :P | 12:44 |
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| kanox | hello everyone | 12:55 |
| kanox | tandyman you here? | 12:57 |
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| Tandy|7540 | yeah kanox, I'm here | 13:48 |
| Tandy|7540 | Did you hear AT&T is buying TMobile? | 13:48 |
| Tandy|7540 | They're going to monopolize GSM now :( | 13:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:48 |
| * TheDeadCPU loves his regulated market | 13:48 | |
| Tandy|7540 | heh | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | Our main carrier tried to buy the one with like 100k less customers | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | The gov was like "no u" | 13:49 |
| Tandy|7540 | lol | 13:51 |
| Tandy|7540 | woah | 13:51 |
| Tandy|7540 | There's a 300 baud dial-up Compuserv node here in wichita | 13:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:52 |
| * Tandy|7540 grabs his Model 100 | 13:52 | |
| TheDeadCPU | We have a working morse network here | 13:52 |
| Tandy|7540 | wow | 13:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, it's epic | 13:56 |
| Tandy|7540 | There's a program for the model 100 that will code/decode morse code in real time. | 13:57 |
| Tandy|7540 | Just craft a cable for in/out and boom | 13:57 |
| Tandy|7540 | you can type stuff in, and it will send it at a certain speed. | 13:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | I can do that | 13:57 |
| Tandy|7540 | AMAZE YOUR FRIENDS WITH 30WPM MORSE CODE | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've got this thing called a laptop | 13:58 |
| Tandy|7540 | lol | 13:58 |
| Tandy|7540 | yeah, well. This is a 1983 laptop. much more impressive :P | 13:58 |
| Tandy|7540 | plus it runs for 30+ hours on four AA batteries | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've got the one of the first laptop that was even in Norway | 14:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's HUUUUUUUUUUGE | 14:01 |
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| Tandy|7540 | Brand/model please? | 14:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | I have no Idea | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | Think it's a HP | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's in the basement lol | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | Lol, my 6 year old cousin is so awesome. She was like "Did you know we're in space? Because earth is in space therefor are we" | 14:06 |
| Tandy|7540 | lol | 14:06 |
| Tandy|7540 | that's awesome | 14:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | She's now talking about time travel oO | 14:07 |
| Tandy|7540 | O_O | 14:20 |
| Tandy|7540 | tell me if she makes a time machine out of legos, play-doh, and rubberbands | 14:20 |
| Tandy|7540 | I have some things I need to do... | 14:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:29 |
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| machiche | Hi my name is Lucas i'am from Venezuela, i'm starting to develop Android OS for the HTC Whitestone (Dual CDMA/GSM) | 14:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | Cool. | 14:38 |
| machiche | thx, any advice? it's a MSM7600 | 14:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | I don't have any though | 14:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'm a noob | 14:39 |
| rpierce99 | do you have a kernel? | 14:40 |
| machiche | Ok, thx either | 14:40 |
| rpierce99 | machiche: kernel? | 14:42 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, what type of dev machiche ? | 14:44 |
| machiche | not yet, there was some tests past year using the FRX03 | 14:44 |
| rpierce99 | you have userland but no kernel? | 14:44 |
| machiche | it's a Mtype: 2514, but it booted using the TP Mtype (i think because of the kernel compilation) | 14:46 |
| rpierce99 | if it's a 7600 not a 7600a wouldn't it be more like the Vogue? | 14:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 14:46 |
| machiche | yes i need the compile kernel for that device, a MSM7600 | 14:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nothing is like the vogue | 14:46 |
| machiche | not really, because it's dual | 14:47 |
| rpierce99 | well we have a dualmode RIL that we are using, that's not kernel though | 14:47 |
| rpierce99 | i'm just looking at htc-linux.org and it says the 7600 is seperate from the 7600A | 14:47 |
| machiche | there's not a 7600a but the 7200 (only GSM) | 14:50 |
| machiche | or am i wrong? | 14:50 |
| rpierce99 | sorry it's 7XXX vs 7XXXXA | 14:51 |
| rpierce99 | http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Qualcomm_MSM7xxx_.28non-A.29 | 14:51 |
| rpierce99 | i just wanted to make sure you had a good kernel, if you had frx03 working on it i'd say it's a yes | 14:52 |
| machiche | i haven't been able to run linux on the pda, there's a thread in ppcgeeks about it, but i think may be better to compile a kernel | 14:55 |
| rpierce99 | TheDeadCPU: looking at the above link am I right that it should use the vogue kernel? | 14:55 |
| machiche | well, the Vogue has a msm7500 but that kernel will work with msm7600 as well, i'm wondering about GSM capabilities | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Google it | 14:56 |
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| rpierce99 | well, the kernel may not support the sim card slot the way the TP2 kernel does, honestly kernel questions belong in #htc-linux, a lot more help there than here | 14:57 |
| machiche | thx rpierce99 | 14:57 |
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| natemcnutty | MassStash: you there? | 16:09 |
| MassStash | yup | 16:13 |
| MassStash | what up? | 16:13 |
| MassStash | so taken sdcard makdir line of init doesnt work | 16:14 |
| MassStash | renders roecovery failed | 16:14 |
| MassStash | so i kept it the same and tried removeinge /sdcard right before android | 16:14 |
| MassStash | but thats a temp fix i imagine | 16:14 |
| MassStash | natemcnutty,yo | 16:15 |
| natemcnutty | hey sorry, was helping someone | 16:18 |
| natemcnutty | was wondering if you are compiling your own right now | 16:18 |
| natemcnutty | if you can try this mtdparts | 16:18 |
| natemcnutty | mtdparts=msm_nand:0x4800000@0x0(protected),0x80000 0@0x4800000(recovery),0x0A000000@0x5000000(system) ,0xF000000@0xF000000(userdata),0x2000000@0x1E00000 0(cache) | 16:18 |
| MassStash | yup | 16:19 |
| MassStash | n i will when back from store | 16:19 |
| MassStash | brb | 16:19 |
| natemcnutty | cool | 16:19 |
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| odz | arrrghhh you must be happy :P | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 16:27 |
| odz | taid8 getting banned | 16:27 |
| Tandy|7540 | taid8 got banned. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | i predicted this | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | Tiad8 WHERE ARE YOU? | 16:27 |
| Tandy|7540 | haha, odz ninja'd me. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | that's a thread | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | already. | 16:28 |
| Tandy|7540 | THat's pathetic. | 16:28 |
| odz | ;O | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | i predicted that people would be posting threads like that. | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | didn't really have an option tho. | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | we'll see. i have a feeling he'll be back when the bans are lifted. | 16:28 |
| odz | yep | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | if he does return, fine. | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | just cough up sources | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 16:29 |
| odz | ya this build is still running | 16:29 |
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| odz | no sod yet | 16:29 |
| Tandy|7540 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12268488#post12268488 | 16:29 |
| Tandy|7540 | I am laughing | 16:29 |
| Tandy|7540 | very hard | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | retarded. | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | odz, i never really get SoD's either.. so.. | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | it seems highly dependent on environmental factors. | 16:30 |
| odz | well i live in nyc | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | hell jonpry was getting them even while in airplane mode, so it seems like there's radio issues and potentially clock issues. | 16:30 |
| odz | im constantly losing/weak signal when i go in and out of the subway everyday | 16:31 |
| odz | so far its been handling like a pro | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | well that's great. so you have something that potentially fixes a huge issue, and it's useless to us. | 16:32 |
| odz | ya :/ | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | really do not like that guy, tiad. | 16:32 |
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| arrrghhh | if you kang our shit, at least let us kang back :P | 16:32 |
| odz | lol | 16:33 |
| odz | its a shame this build is pretty slow tho | 16:33 |
| odz | or maybe its a kernel thing | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | what kernel are you on | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | you can see in about phone | 16:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | heh, I'm getting smarter. I upgraded to Gingerbread today. It's really good once you reboot a couple times after 10 minutes or so :D | 16:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | Last time I tried it it was boot->install tons of stuff -> it inevitably crashes -> wipe SD and install froyo | 16:35 |
| odz | 20110317_184049 | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | odz, did u install that or is it just part of the build? | 16:35 |
| odz | install | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 16:36 |
| odz | it comes with ones from 2/28 | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:36 |
| odz | i notice it has pmem.extra=1 | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | he also used to put 0,1,2,3 or something in for the sleep_mode | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | 1276, first kernel that had cam enabled from the autobuild | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | so he kinda listened to me.. | 16:37 |
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| odz | well he has pm.sleep_mode=1 | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | at least in once instance it would appear that he did take my advice. | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | hey, 2 instances. | 16:37 |
| odz | lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock_7x00.grp=0xa99 hw3d.force=1 board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=1 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=rhod400 | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | still has the msmts_calib | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | and the clock_7x00 | 16:38 |
| odz | thats not needed anymore? | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | neither | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | hw3d isn't either | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | technically | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | or board-htcrhodium... IIRC | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | that was only in the cam testing thread | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | but ofc, tiad8 kanged that kernel posthaste! | 16:40 |
| odz | whats pmem.extra anyways? | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | deprecated | 16:42 |
| odz | oh | 16:42 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: you on NAND right now? | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, not presently... why what's up? | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | testing cm7 :P | 16:44 |
| odz | how did you get it working? | 16:44 |
| natemcnutty | ah, nice | 16:44 |
| natemcnutty | if you are on haret, don't worry about it | 16:44 |
| natemcnutty | have a new mtdparts I'm trying to have someone test :) | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea i saw that | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | do you have something rolled? i can test for ya | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | odz, neopeeks magic hands. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i won't take any credit for cm7, i'm just testing. | 16:47 |
| odz | hows it so far? | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | says i have no SIM | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | despite the correct force_cdma setting :P | 16:56 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 117 filed... | 16:56 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=117 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Camera works, but not in third party apps which utilize camera (google goggle, bar scanner, etc) | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | but they do | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | BUT CAMERA DOES | 16:57 |
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| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, sorry 'bout that this lappy sux. so do you have something rolled i can test? | 17:11 |
| natemcnutty | not yet, LMiller threw a wrench into the mix | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol i saw the posts. | 17:18 |
| natemcnutty | I don't like the cat method because it f's up the partition table | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:18 |
| natemcnutty | the nbtools are there for a reason | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 17:18 |
| natemcnutty | I just want to maximize the amount of NAND we can use | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:19 |
| natemcnutty | because the more limited we are on space, the less wear leveling we get to do | 17:19 |
| natemcnutty | the sooner everyone's NAND is dead.. | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | considering we don't have a ton | 17:19 |
| natemcnutty | and I still can't get recovery to work anymore | 17:20 |
| natemcnutty | not sure what changed | 17:20 |
| natemcnutty | it's not on a git, so I can't look at that either :( | 17:20 |
| MassStash | where are we with the sdcard? | 17:24 |
| MassStash | should i try those mtdparts still? | 17:24 |
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| natemcnutty | I'm not even sure what they are talking about with the sdcard | 17:24 |
| natemcnutty | I don't see the symlink ACL is talking about | 17:24 |
| MassStash | something is making /mnt/sdcard be the sdcard thing read by sys | 17:25 |
| MassStash | but everything shows up in /sdcard | 17:25 |
| MassStash | fn works for once android loads btwe | 17:25 |
| natemcnutty | that's because /sdcard is marked as external storage | 17:25 |
| natemcnutty | export EXTERNAL_STORAGE /sdcard | 17:25 |
| natemcnutty | in init.rc | 17:25 |
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| natemcnutty | I'm not seeing anywhere we are referencing /mnt/sdcard | 17:26 |
| natemcnutty | and don't bother with the mtdparts yet. LMiller has a different one that I'm going to try out here in a sec | 17:26 |
| MassStash | k | 17:27 |
| MassStash | what about export>? saying its in there or i need to add it right quick? | 17:27 |
| natemcnutty | no, it's in there that way right now | 17:27 |
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| MassStash | ok | 17:28 |
| MassStash | uhm... | 17:28 |
| natemcnutty | what I'm saying is, I'm not sure why that would mess up recovery. I can't get into recovery anymore | 17:28 |
| natemcnutty | just sits at the splash screen | 17:28 |
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| MassStash | and he told me to just type in rm -R /sdcard before android boots, but fn doesnt work when lincode is onscreen before bootani | 17:29 |
| MassStash | really? ima reboot to see if i can... | 17:29 |
| MassStash | nah i got recovery still | 17:32 |
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| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: if you don't mind, would you grab the latest files from the 1st post on NAND and let me know if you can get into recovery? | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | just so i'm clear - recovery is used instead of the install script? | 17:38 |
| natemcnutty | yeah | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i used the install script last time, and never saw any recovery... | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 17:38 |
| natemcnutty | basically, the way it is on autobuild right now, holding the volume up key will kick you into recovery | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | ah right | 17:38 |
| natemcnutty | but on my phone, it never loads in. just hangs on the splash screen | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | like the old menu | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | hrm, ok. | 17:38 |
| Tandy|7540 | xdandroid has recovery? | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | it does now, bitches | 17:39 |
| natemcnutty | on NAND we do | 17:39 |
| Tandy|7540 | damn | 17:39 |
| natemcnutty | thanks to ACL | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, just testing it | 17:39 |
| Tandy|7540 | you Touch Pro 2 people have all the good stuff :P | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, damn you and your multiple users!!$@!!@$ | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | autocomplete FAIL | 17:39 |
| Tandy|7540 | lol | 17:40 |
| MassStash | i can get into recovery with latest commits | 17:40 |
| MassStash | do you hit end key natmcnutty? | 17:40 |
| MassStash | it just chills and does nothing | 17:40 |
| MassStash | end key brings up menu n hides | 17:41 |
| MassStash | you knows i assumed but double checkin... | 17:41 |
| MassStash | got me for a min to | 17:41 |
| MassStash | too | 17:41 |
| MassStash | nah, HD2 people have ALLLLLL the good stuff | 17:41 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, I tried every key combo you could think of ;) | 17:42 |
| natemcnutty | just in case he changed something | 17:42 |
| natemcnutty | testing again now though | 17:42 |
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| MassStash | yea i just fresh installed from tring ripping sdcard line outa init so everything should work fine | 17:44 |
| natemcnutty | formatted my card, reloaded it all, and now it works... | 17:46 |
| natemcnutty | what the f | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | winnar | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | i love when problems get fixed for no reason.... hooray. | 17:46 |
| natemcnutty | well, I've only plugged and unplugged this card about 50 times today | 17:48 |
| natemcnutty | and probably about 50 times last night | 17:48 |
| natemcnutty | poor phone is up to 4 bad blocks of memory now | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | didn't you start with 2? | 17:49 |
| natemcnutty | lol, just 1 | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | damn guy. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | i started with 2 :P | 17:49 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, I actually have the partition layout figured out so I can avoid them now | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | do you know how many is survivable? | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | damn i thought SPL took care of badblocks | 17:50 |
| natemcnutty | intersting note, if you use the mtdparts where we specify a partition as the whole NAND, it will give you which blocks are bad | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:50 |
| natemcnutty | I can't wait for recovery to have wifi | 17:51 |
| natemcnutty | ACL did a damn fine job on that recovery :) | 17:51 |
| natemcnutty | would love to see the ability to grab the latest files off autobuild from within recovery | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol that would be sliiiick | 17:52 |
| Entropy512 | crap forgot to set /away | 17:52 |
| Entropy512 | so emwe thought I was around. :) | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:53 |
| Entropy512 | someone compared us to communists? | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | pretty sweet | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | pretty sure that thread is going to disappear soon. | 17:54 |
| Entropy512 | actually, in some ways that is correct, open source is technically a form of real working communism | 17:54 |
| natemcnutty | why communists? wouldn't anarchists be closer? | 17:54 |
| Entropy512 | but Soviet communism isn't actually true Marxist communism | 17:54 |
| Entropy512 | true communism = failure in nearly all cases except very small communities | 17:54 |
| Entropy512 | I should probably follow up to my message with a link to the testing thread - I've got positive confirmed feedback from 2-3 people and no negative feedback | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol i saw "Give me NAND or give me death! right before recovery logo :D | 17:56 |
| Entropy512 | and emwe is correct - other than one line, it's almost all logging and commenting (and in one small case an attempt to start cleaning up some of the RPC registration/unregistration stuff) | 17:56 |
| Entropy512 | looks like someone over on the neopeek forums got neocore HW3D working in GB? | 17:57 |
| Entropy512 | but no details of how | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | yes there were details | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | i read that too | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, basically took some libs from froyo... | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | let me find the "proof" 1 sec | 18:00 |
| MassStash | fuk no sdcard n off to work.... bringing laptop.... muuuuahahahahahahahahaaa | 18:00 |
| Entropy512 | ah, the details are elsewhere I guess - was reading ... dammit closed the window. :) | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, there's a whole thread on it in fact :P http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6500&p=11574#p11565 | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | i was reading that as well, weird that worked... | 18:02 |
| Entropy512 | hmm... my guess is | 18:02 |
| Entropy512 | our HW3D lib needs a change to fit in with GB's new 3D structure, | 18:02 |
| Entropy512 | but the other option | 18:02 |
| Entropy512 | take the whole GB 3D subsystem and replace it with froyo's | 18:03 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol the lack of a progressbar on recovery is nerve racking :P | 18:03 |
| Entropy512 | to make it compatible with the one lib we can't change | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't know | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | looks like he's using CM too | 18:03 |
| Entropy512 | I guess the thing to try would be to try taking the same files from an xdandroid froyo build and plopping them into a GB build | 18:04 |
| Entropy512 | I haven't messed with GB yet | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea i haven't done much with gb tbh | 18:04 |
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| arrrghhh | the call completely killing data is rough. | 18:04 |
| Entropy512 | I'm leaving the "major bug squashing" to the experts | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:05 |
| Entropy512 | focusing on polishing up the small stuff in Froyo | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | join the fun :P | 18:05 |
| Entropy512 | well that isn't GB-specific, that's CDMA-specific | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | stine needs some help rewriting libgps | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | GB has data issues for GSM | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | just not as pronounced on CDMA, dick :P | 18:05 |
| Entropy512 | hahah | 18:05 |
| Entropy512 | I'd need a good migration guide or something detailing what changed between FR and GB | 18:06 |
| Entropy512 | although | 18:06 |
| Entropy512 | I tend to such at major architectural overhauls | 18:06 |
| Entropy512 | suck | 18:06 |
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| Tandy|7540 | ooh, this is interesting | 18:10 |
| Tandy|7540 | watching you guys get hw3d working in GB | 18:10 |
| Tandy|7540 | ...or at least talk about it : | 18:11 |
| natemcnutty | haha, arrrghhh if you like give me NAND or give me death, you should try the advanced menu | 18:11 |
| Tandy|7540 | :P | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | data still just goes up | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | arrow never goes down, data doesn't work... :/ | 18:12 |
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| * CDMA_users demand development! | 18:13 | |
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| arrrghhh | uh | 18:13 |
| Tandy|7540 | </joking? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | we're getting a TON of help from a GSM-only dev. | 18:13 |
| Tandy|7540 | </joking>* | 18:13 |
| Tandy|7540 | Sweet! | 18:13 |
| Tandy|7540 | I'll be getting a GSM phone soon, so you won't have to worry about me bothering you all as much :P | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, do you have data on your device? | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, not like it's going to get so much easier if you have a gsm tp2.. | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | what are you getting? hd2? | 18:14 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: sure do | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. did you have to do anything to enable it? i'm not sure what i'm missing. | 18:15 |
| natemcnutty | although, I did have issues when I tried to start using data too soon after Android loaded for the first time | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | i let it "sleep" | 18:15 |
| natemcnutty | I found that I have to let it sit for a minute before I go launching things | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | although it doesn't really seem to sleep... | 18:15 |
| natemcnutty | a reboot fixed it for me when that happened last time | 18:15 |
| natemcnutty | also, if you want to try my new mtdparts, here's the link: | 18:16 |
| natemcnutty | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11790134/newmtdparts.zip | 18:16 |
| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh I'm hoping to get a GSM TP2. At least it'll be better-supported, faster, and the WVGA screen means more apps will correctly work on it. | 18:16 |
| odz | why doesnt nand have the panel fixes yet? | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | odz, acl is the only guy working on the kernel | 18:16 |
| natemcnutty | just not all | 18:16 |
| natemcnutty | it has some of them | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | panel fixes aren't complete for any device | 18:17 |
| natemcnutty | also, arrrghhh , don't forget that our button mappings and led's are different than Haret :) | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, so what represents full sleed? | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | er | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | sleep | 18:17 |
| natemcnutty | orange I believe | 18:19 |
| natemcnutty | it will blink green when something wakes it | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 18:19 |
| natemcnutty | when the screen is off | 18:19 |
| natemcnutty | it stays orange most of the time even when the screen is on though | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's solid orange in wake | 18:19 |
| natemcnutty | ACL doesn't really use it | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:19 |
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| natemcnutty | but it will blink green when the screen is off if it gets woken up | 18:20 |
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| odz | now thats gonna be confusing | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | it blinks constantly lol | 18:20 |
| odz | lol | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | the newest kernel on GIT is messed up tho | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | from the autobuild | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | it does that too | 18:20 |
| odz | hmm? 3/17? | 18:21 |
| odz | eh nvm *was confused* | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | my SD card says it's not available | 18:21 |
| Tandy|7540 | what on earth? The Touch Pro is in Legacy Devices on XDA Developers but the TP2 isn't? | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, yea... | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | so? | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | tp2 is still being sold | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | new | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | on contract | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, lol @ advanced menu | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | well nbh flashed | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | applied update via recovery | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | rebooting now | 18:27 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: that's because ACL changed the path for EXTERNAL_STORAGE to /mnt/sdcard | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea i saw that post | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | was he going to symlink it? | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get that. | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | but perhaps it's better? lol | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | symlinks everywhere | 18:27 |
| natemcnutty | he did symlink it | 18:27 |
| natemcnutty | but it fails because the directory exists when it is made by init | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i halted | 18:28 |
| Entropy512 | Yup - sprint still has TP2, AT&T still has Tilt2 | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | said i didn't update the modules | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | but i did | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | i went into recovery and applied the update... | 18:28 |
| natemcnutty | Ahh, you have to boot into recovery first | 18:28 |
| * arrrghhh did... | 18:28 | |
| natemcnutty | hehe | 18:28 |
| natemcnutty | you typed it as I did :P | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | did i miss something else? | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:28 |
| natemcnutty | renamed the files, right? | 18:28 |
| natemcnutty | oh, nm | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | i was gonna say | 18:28 |
| natemcnutty | I'm retarded, I already named it that | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | i extracted, they were named correctly... | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | put update in andboot | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | and rhodimg at root of sd | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | applied update | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | reboot | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | fail... | 18:29 |
| natemcnutty | ahh | 18:29 |
| natemcnutty | you just applied the update to the existing system? | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | yea should i redo it all? | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | i did just do the update | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, when you flash a NBH, it actually wipes all NAND | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | i said yes to wipe user data tho | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | there was like 4 no's | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | so you no longer have a system | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | o | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | :( | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec :P | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | ACL's working on that too | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | he's got kexec working so he can update the kernel and modules without losing system | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | that way we never have to flash the NBH again | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | oh NAND | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | noobs think it's so easy. | 18:30 |
| natemcnutty | haha | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | there's so many things to think about... | 18:31 |
| natemcnutty | Yeah, checkpoints are crazy important for NAND too | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | alright | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | so goin for the install | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | then the update | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | then reboot | 18:32 |
| natemcnutty | no need to update | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | o | 18:32 |
| natemcnutty | full install does that for you | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:32 |
| natemcnutty | ACL just wanted to get it out, then worry about wording later :P | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't want to make any assumptions :P | 18:32 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, I don't think it would have mattered | 18:32 |
| Entropy512 | taker2 = tiad8 I'm fairly certain | 18:32 |
| natemcnutty | HAHA | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | kinda seems like it | 18:33 |
| natemcnutty | tiad cracks me up | 18:33 |
| natemcnutty | every new file is the bestest | 18:33 |
| natemcnutty | don't even know where half the crap comes from | 18:33 |
| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh you should make a video of the current state of Android on NAND | 18:33 |
| Entropy512 | did you notice that in addition to the grammatical similarities already mentioned | 18:33 |
| Tandy|7540 | sort of a 10 minute teaser :D | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, that sounds boring. | 18:33 |
| Entropy512 | his join date is equal to tiad8's ban date? | 18:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | to some people maby | 18:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | maybe* | 18:34 |
| Entropy512 | so of all of the tiad8 supporters for tiad8 to PM - why taker2? | 18:34 |
| Entropy512 | and how did someone who is banned PM taker2? | 18:34 |
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| natemcnutty | I'll do a walkthrough of install on NAND for TP2 once we get things ironed out | 18:34 |
| natemcnutty | still have to remove install-seq.sh stuff, fix the sdcard thing, and fix modules | 18:35 |
| natemcnutty | after that, I think initrd will be done permanently | 18:35 |
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| Tandy|7540 | I love how taker2's profile pic is one of the wallpapers in android :P | 18:36 |
| Tandy|7540 | and how he keeps heaping on the praise to tiad8 | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | all 26 posts are suspect. | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | what an idiot. | 18:38 |
| Tandy|7540 | real subtle :P | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | Tandy|7540, i forgot you have an 800 | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | does wifi tethering work for you ? have you tried it...? | 18:41 |
| Entropy512 | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/140339-sense-x-2011-02-10-eta-project-soon-discontinued-14.html#post2069404 - would be nice if there were truth to this one | 18:42 |
| Entropy512 | probably half that shit is worthless | 18:43 |
| Entropy512 | but it would be nice to know what he did to tweak market performance | 18:43 |
| Entropy512 | since that's one of the deficiencies in FRX04/05 | 18:43 |
| Entropy512 | market = epic cpu hog when downloading | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | but isn't it in his build as well...? no? | 18:44 |
| Entropy512 | technically yes | 18:45 |
| Entropy512 | but | 18:45 |
| Entropy512 | i'm assuming he grabbed shit from somewhere | 18:45 |
| Entropy512 | don't know where | 18:45 |
| Entropy512 | but would be nice if that "somewhere" had a source tree. :) | 18:45 |
| natemcnutty | actually, there are two helpful things for market | 18:46 |
| natemcnutty | one is having a cache | 18:46 |
| natemcnutty | a real cache that is | 18:46 |
| natemcnutty | the other one has to do with cyclical mounts and stuff on /data | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, seems good | 18:47 |
| natemcnutty | excellen | 18:47 |
| natemcnutty | t | 18:47 |
| natemcnutty | :P | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | data still just goin up | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | no down arrow love | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | giggity | 18:48 |
| Entropy512 | so, if I enable JIT, will things explode? | 18:48 |
| natemcnutty | shouldn't | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, maybe | 18:48 |
| natemcnutty | and JIT should be moved to /cache | 18:48 |
| Entropy512 | natemcnutty: cyclical mounts, do you mean loop mounts of image files? | 18:48 |
| Entropy512 | real cache as opposed to? | 18:48 |
| natemcnutty | I mean all the bind mounts that refer back to themselves | 18:48 |
| natemcnutty | and loop mounts certainly don't help | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | Loop mounts = not my problem | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | I actually partitioned my SD card | 18:49 |
| natemcnutty | nice | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | didn't help market performance | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | did get my semi-working USB mass storage | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | me | 18:49 |
| natemcnutty | sadly, sdcard doesn't have a controller | 18:49 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 18:49 |
| natemcnutty | so it can't disperse reads/writes across different blocks | 18:50 |
| natemcnutty | we have a 32 MB cache on NAND, and I noticed a big difference in downloading multiple apps at the same time | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Don't make me challenge you to a dance off! | 18:50 |
| Entropy512 | um, no - smartmedia and xD memory are the only ones that expose bare NAND flash, SD has a wear leveler. Do you mean we have no filesystem cache for stuff mounted on the SD? | 18:51 |
| natemcnutty | by FS cache, you mean journaling? | 18:51 |
| natemcnutty | and what I meant was, we don't have a dedicated controller that is optimized for reads/writes on sd cards | 18:52 |
| natemcnutty | on NAND, it will purposefully spread work out to multiple blocks for better performance | 18:52 |
| natemcnutty | but on sdcards, it doesn't do that due to being CPU intensive | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | no, journaling is generally bad for performance | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | I mean a filesystem cache - don't write stuff out immediately to disk when the userland app says to | 18:54 |
| Entropy512 | store it in cache, write to cache either when you have too much unwritten data, or time goes by | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | stupid data. | 18:55 |
| Entropy512 | "on NAND, it will purposefully spread work out to multiple blocks for better performance" - sounds like you are describing a typical wear leveller/controller, which is internal to the SD card itself | 18:55 |
| Entropy512 | That's why you never see yaffs or the like on SD cards - yaffs is intended for bare NAND without any abstraction layers | 18:55 |
| Entropy512 | hmm, curious to see /proc/meminfo now. :) | 18:56 |
| natemcnutty | I was always under the impression that the sd card had no controller | 18:58 |
| natemcnutty | that's why you have the sd host controller | 18:58 |
| Entropy512 | well, the host controller can do extra stuff like DMA to offload the CPU | 18:59 |
| Entropy512 | and provides an additional abstraction layer | 19:00 |
| Entropy512 | but if you command an SD card to write to sector N - that won't always write to the same memory location | 19:00 |
| Entropy512 | because the SD card has an internal controller that abstracts the NAND away a bit and does wear leveling and block read/modify/write ops when the external device only writes a little bit | 19:00 |
| natemcnutty | hmm | 19:01 |
| Entropy512 | do you mean to say that our internal SD controller doesn't do DMA? | 19:01 |
| Entropy512 | or that we're bitbanging stuff out the GPIO port? | 19:01 |
| natemcnutty | Nah, haven't looked at that | 19:02 |
| Entropy512 | heheh | 19:02 |
| Entropy512 | man, our mount table is a mess! | 19:02 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 19:02 |
| Entropy512 | TheDeadCPU just regulated on tiad8/taker2's ass | 19:05 |
| natemcnutty | From reading through previous discussions about NAND vs SD cards at various places (like XDA), it was mentioned that the NAND has a controller that has been optimized for the type of use expected by an OS | 19:05 |
| natemcnutty | Whereas the sd cards tend to be tweaked for high throughput for both read and write, and I was under the impression that the host controller handled the wear leveling and all that | 19:06 |
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| Entropy512 | nah wear leveling is in the card itself - but sometimes it is beneficial if the host can control their own destiny | 19:06 |
| Entropy512 | which is the case for NAND | 19:06 |
| Entropy512 | however if we have a proper filesystem write cache | 19:07 |
| Entropy512 | we should be able to batch out writes | 19:07 |
| Entropy512 | unless market is doing some stupid shit like forcing sync writes | 19:07 |
| Entropy512 | anyone have a good guide for using the toolchains in our source tree to compile other binaries? | 19:08 |
| Entropy512 | the busybox version of dd doesn't print throughput statistics | 19:08 |
| Entropy512 | dd_rescue does. :) | 19:08 |
| natemcnutty | like you want to build your own busybox? | 19:08 |
| natemcnutty | cause they have the make menuconfig where you can browse through and add/remove any applets you want | 19:08 |
| stinebd | taker2? | 19:09 |
| TheDeadCPU | Entropy512, teehee | 19:09 |
| natemcnutty | lol, stinebd | 19:09 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, tiad8 made a puppy | 19:09 |
| TheDeadCPU | After I banned him | 19:09 |
| stinebd | oh it was you who banned him? | 19:09 |
| stinebd | i didn't even know you were a mod | 19:10 |
| Entropy512 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002454 | 19:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol stinebd | 19:10 |
| stinebd | nice to know i have connections at xda now | 19:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:10 |
| stinebd | could you accidentally give me access to the moderators lounge? | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, has been using me for weeks | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | I can not | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | But you don't want to | 19:11 |
| stinebd | i wanna see all the dirty moderator secrets | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's way to off-topic | 19:11 |
| Entropy512 | arrrghhh: do you know if wistilt2's 3/11 kernel includes those audio routing updates someone mentioned went into the autobuilds? | 19:11 |
| Entropy512 | or did those go in post-autobuild | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | Dude, one of the posts in the mod section is tagged "sexual videogame cosplay" | 19:11 |
| Entropy512 | not sure if I did my speakerbuzz test with 3/1 or 3/11 | 19:11 |
| natemcnutty | haha, Entropy512, that thread is so full of win | 19:12 |
| natemcnutty | even Charlie Sheen says, winner | 19:13 |
| Entropy512 | as soon as someone commented on the grammar similarities | 19:13 |
| Entropy512 | I checked his join date and posts | 19:13 |
| Entropy512 | and | 19:13 |
| Entropy512 | it had to be tiad8 | 19:13 |
| natemcnutty | no IP access huh? | 19:13 |
| natemcnutty | I mean, of course there are ways around that, but something tells me he's not that smart :) | 19:14 |
| stinebd | LOL | 19:14 |
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| stinebd | Guys, I lived under communist regim until the age of 18... Guys, what are you doing to Tiad8 is very close to that ideology | 19:15 |
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| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, he had warez | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | And was being a dick | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | and spammed | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | and kanged | 19:16 |
| stinebd | TheDeadCPU: that's a paste from the thread actually | 19:16 |
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| stinebd | i was laughing at the assertion | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | oh lol | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | LOL | 19:16 |
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| Entropy512 | can a mod give someone a custom title? | 19:17 |
| Entropy512 | like | 19:17 |
| Entropy512 | LORD KANG! | 19:17 |
| natemcnutty | rofl | 19:17 |
| TandyMobileMan | raph800 gingerbread bug report: after wake, hardware keys *sometimes* don't light up on finger passing over them or dont repond to presses. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | i can't believe he opened a poser account like that... | 19:18 |
| natemcnutty | doesn't surprise me | 19:19 |
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| natemcnutty | when he passed off ACL's 3d files as his own | 19:19 |
| stinebd | why embarrass yourself? cut your losses, forget about it and get back to work in a month | 19:19 |
| TandyMobileMan | it is funny though | 19:19 |
| TandyMobileMan | in a desperado-immature-teenager sort of way | 19:19 |
| stinebd | maybe it's his wife | 19:20 |
| stinebd | that would be an interesting twist | 19:20 |
| TandyMobileMan | I sorta think that those "posts" from his wife were just him trying to garner attention/sympathy | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | he does do a lot of that | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, to answer your question, yes his kernels should have the audio routing fixed. | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 said they were on his local repo for a while, and forgot to push them. | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, have you tested that bug on GB? | 19:23 |
| Entropy512 | will try again then | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | on gb pls :D | 19:23 |
| Entropy512 | no, someone claimed GB fixed it | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | i want you to confirm | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | i guess if you want to try again on froyo | 19:24 |
| Entropy512 | curious if it was userland or the kernel | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | but i want to confirm if it is fixed in gb. | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | triage! | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:24 |
| Entropy512 | gonna retry on froyo | 19:24 |
| Entropy512 | haven't run gb at all yet | 19:24 |
| Entropy512 | tbh should buy an extra microsd card | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | folders | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | big sd | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | so what do you want the LED to indicate Entropy512 ? | 19:25 |
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| natemcnutty | lol, arrrghhh I loved that thread too. guy blows up at you for asking a question about the GSM buzz | 19:26 |
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| natemcnutty | you were nicer than me. I would have told him to slap a ferrite core inside his phone | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | i was kinda a dick | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | but that is me. | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | his winmo sig was comical | 19:26 |
| Entropy512 | brb - but when in deepsleep it seems like current approach wastes power. May be negligible - but still. | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't help it. | 19:26 |
| Entropy512 | back in a few | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, you're not one of those guys are you! | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. | 19:27 |
| natemcnutty | hypermiler? | 19:27 |
| natemcnutty | man I have to get wifi adb back up and running | 19:27 |
| natemcnutty | hate this no adb thing | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, i see what you mean about holding end to bring up the panel | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | i've only had like one or two failed wakes, where touching the panel fixed it | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | odd. | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | TandyMobileMan, Tandyman100 Tandy|7540 how many users now? | 19:28 |
| natemcnutty | it's so weird | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | did you ever answer my question on the hotspot tandy? | 19:28 |
| natemcnutty | I'm test to see if radio matters for it too | 19:28 |
| stinebd | i played with a 3ds today | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol stine | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | did it blow you away!??! | 19:29 |
| stinebd | it was cool | 19:29 |
| natemcnutty | headache? :) | 19:29 |
| stinebd | nah | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:29 |
| stinebd | slight facemelt | 19:30 |
| stinebd | i have a feeling i'm going to be one of those people that can play it for hours on end and have no issues | 19:30 |
| stinebd | i believe we're called 3d snobs | 19:30 |
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| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh what question about the hotspot? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | does it work? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried it using the built-in method | 19:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | What hotspot are you referring to? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | or any apps like barnacle or the official XDAndroid wifi tethering app? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | wifi tether | 19:34 |
| Tandy|7540 | I've never used it before O-o | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | damnit man | 19:35 |
| Tandy|7540 | I guess I'll try it though. I totally forgot about that :P | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | you must try | 19:35 |
| Tandy|7540 | For SPARTA! | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | i had someone who wanted to use it | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | and said it didn't work for raph800 | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | and i went thru every hoop i could think of | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | and couldn't get it working for him. so i want to see if it is user error, or if there is a problem. | 19:35 |
| Tandy|7540 | Official XDA tethering app? I'm guessing that's not built in. I'll go search a bit. | 19:36 |
| Entropy512 | back | 19:36 |
| Entropy512 | some things I don't care about - but something obvious (and tbh a bit annoying) like a fullbright light on constantly... :) | 19:36 |
| Entropy512 | I tried to find the LED code once and failed. :) | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, i like that i have an indicator for sleep | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | why don't you get LED Effects working for RHOD? | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | seems like the simpler solution. | 19:38 |
| Entropy512 | I assume both that and our current control code are layered over the same low-level stuff | 19:38 |
| Entropy512 | which I haven't found yet. :P | 19:38 |
| Entropy512 | just don't know the tree well enough yet | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | tbh | 19:39 |
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| arrrghhh | led effects worked a treat when i had mah RAPH | 19:40 |
| Entropy512 | I'm assuming that we have everything in place, it's just the PM code has hijacked the interface. :) | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | who knows | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | can't really rule anything out with this project :P | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | after all, it was made and assembled by a bunch of priorityless slackers. | 19:41 |
| * arrrghhh runs | 19:41 | |
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| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: how much free memory you have on your NAND install? | 19:42 |
| natemcnutty | RAM | 19:42 |
| natemcnutty | not storage space :) | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | free -m the best way for that? | 19:42 |
| natemcnutty | dunno, I use OS Monitor | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | i haz no data | 19:43 |
| natemcnutty | just curious what you're at | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | crap | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't put anything out | 19:43 |
| natemcnutty | wonder why you can't get data | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | oo | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | free looks like 4.5mb | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | 175mb total | 19:43 |
| natemcnutty | ouch | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | you? | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | this is using free | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | /bin/free worked | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | /bin/free -m did not. | 19:44 |
| natemcnutty | gonna try a terminal emulator | 19:44 |
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| natemcnutty | cause OS Monitor says 55 MB | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | holy hell | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | unless that's 43mb | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:45 |
| Entropy512 | i wish gitorious search weren't sucky | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't add up. | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, there is a way to view in settings | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | manage apps | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | running services | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | 58mb | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | why is free so different? weird. | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | i feel like a noob all over again with this nand stuff :P | 19:47 |
| Entropy512 | hmm, is there any significant buffers/cached? | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | 20 | 19:48 |
| Entropy512 | linux uses spare memory for filesystem cache | 19:48 |
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| arrrghhh | why oh why did i have to backup my SD at work. | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | well i'd be willing to troubleshoot this data issue | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | it all seems up to me, i have an ip but i can't ping. | 19:54 |
| Entropy512 | gonna need to get an extra SD card for GB testing | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | outta space? heh | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | don't wanna mess with my FR setup! :) | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | it works! | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | mess up? | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | folders? | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | i have so many builds | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | even a partitioned card so i can mess with neopeek | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | tons of space but I happen to have data and system on SD card partitions | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | not in image files | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | lets me sort of use USB MS | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | you just won't be able to test out gb like that | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | you'll have to stick with the boring ole loop mounts | 19:56 |
| Entropy512 | yeah, changes too much | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't change anything? | 19:57 |
| Entropy512 | so gonna use a diff SD for that | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | put it in a separate folder | 19:57 |
| Entropy512 | what doesn't? | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | if you really want to | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just saying that it really doesn't | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few folders it creates at the root of the SD | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | but they're relatively meaningless across builds. | 19:57 |
| Entropy512 | I'll look into the init script to see if I can make it ignore the partitions when I don't want to use them | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | if you're running a completely unique | 19:58 |
| Entropy512 | can't remember if it's partition before loop image, or loop before partition | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | intact build | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | it shouldn't matter | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | i thought the startup.txt parameters determined that | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | or are they not necessary anymore? | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | the root= etc | 19:58 |
| Entropy512 | nope, if you want to run from partition | 19:58 |
| Entropy512 | it's automatic | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | weird... | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | that's probably going to screw up my setup. | 19:59 |
| Entropy512 | the startup params might affect what happens if you only have images | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | oh well i guess we'll see what happens tomorrow. | 19:59 |
| Entropy512 | but I think the init scripts look for a partition, and if it exists, use it | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | that kinda sucks | 19:59 |
| Entropy512 | or they might look for an image first, then partition, then bomb out | 19:59 |
| Entropy512 | I need to look again. :) | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | i was hoping the startup.txt parameters would specify it | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | regardless of how it thinks it should go :P | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | i tell it how it should go. damnit. | 20:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | night | 20:02 |
| Entropy512 | hmm | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | nn | 20:02 |
| Entropy512 | looks like no_partitions might cause it to ignore partitions | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | i figured there was a way :P | 20:03 |
| Entropy512 | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init - line 74 | 20:03 |
| Entropy512 | hmm | 20:04 |
| Entropy512 | one could probably create a startup.txt option that determines data.img creation size | 20:05 |
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| arrrghhh | orly | 20:05 |
| arrrghhh | oh create | 20:05 |
| arrrghhh | i need to read the complete statement before finishing it | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | or rather responding to it | 20:06 |
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| Entropy512 | as in put some logic in the init script that looks for a new option which affects the size given in line 84 | 20:06 |
| Entropy512 | so people don't have to constantly resize-after-create | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | if they want to make a bigger one, startup.txt option would be tits | 20:07 |
| Entropy512 | maybe in a week or two I'll look at it | 20:07 |
| Entropy512 | my shellfu is rusty | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 20:07 |
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| stinebd | stupid orbitz | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | kustomkookedkernel | 20:43 |
| stinebd | they didn't let me pick my seats when buying the plane tickets | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | bastards. | 20:43 |
| stinebd | and for the past two days i've been trying to switch to the center section on their website | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | but kustomkookedkernel just seems like a bad idea. | 20:44 |
| stinebd | and the site says "Thank you, we'll forward your request to the airline" | 20:44 |
| stinebd | bullshit assholes | 20:44 |
| stinebd | so i said screw it and did it through continental myself | 20:44 |
| stinebd | that's what i thought bitches | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | when are you leaving? | 20:44 |
| stinebd | i wish tomorrow | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | may? | 20:45 |
| stinebd | yeah | 20:45 |
| Nautis | yeah be careful my gf and I were seated apart when we flew using orbitz.. didnt find out until we got there never again | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | i should ask my dad if he's flying to narita in may. | 20:45 |
| stinebd | if he wants to split a cab to asakusa let me know | 20:45 |
| stinebd | (lol that'd be like 400 bucks) | 20:45 |
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| stinebd | what's this custom cooked kernel | 20:46 |
| stinebd | i refuse to use that spelling due to my ethnic heritage | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | MassStash and his way with words... | 20:47 |
| stinebd | **seen massstash | 20:47 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: massstash was last seen in #xdandroid 2 hours, 47 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <MassStash> fuk no sdcard n off to work.... bringing laptop.... muuuuahahahahahahahahaaa | 20:47 |
| stinebd | i wonder if he's always stoned | 20:48 |
| stinebd | not that there's anything wrong with that | 20:48 |
| stinebd | unless he gets caught | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say he's stoned most of the time. | 20:49 |
| Nautis | hah just read that tiad thrad on xda | 20:49 |
| stinebd | the doppelganger one? | 20:49 |
| Nautis | yeah funny stuff.. I figure hes in here too | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | he never came on irc really | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | couple of times, said one or two things | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | that was it. | 20:50 |
| stinebd | **seen tiad8 | 20:50 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: I have not seen tiad8. | 20:50 |
| stinebd | :( | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | htc-linux | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 20:50 |
| stinebd | shut up baby i know it | 20:50 |
| Nautis | im sure hes not using tiad | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | Nautis, when he came on IRC he did | 20:51 |
| stinebd | yeah he's not on | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's possible he also signed on with aliases | 20:51 |
| stinebd | at first i felt a little bad about him being banned for a month | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | man i'm hungry. need to go make my gf cook faster. | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol i didn't. | 20:52 |
| stinebd | but seeing that thread, i'd say it's about right | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | he was banned for a day | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | and that's when he flipped out and put the PROJECT DISCONTINUED all over the place | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | bunch of idiots said they're getting rid of their phones because the project is stopping | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | oy... | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | he really is/was a drama queen. | 20:52 |
| stinebd | get them to donate the phones to us | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | i do my best man | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | i was supposed to get another 210 | 20:53 |
| rpierce99 | i just think it's hilarious that he was like "i'm leaving" then they banned him, then he sneaks back in, like dude, you were "leaving" already, seems like a great opportunity to leave when you've been banned | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | but that washed | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, he really doesn't want to leave | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | he wants to throw a big stink | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | and make his junk look better than mine, because i'm a meanie. | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | he did this before | 20:53 |
| stinebd | yours? | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much the exact same thing. | 20:53 |
| stinebd | whatevah | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | all mine | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | the bundle poop i post | 20:54 |
| rpierce99 | i assume TheDeadCPU checked the ip logs before locking that thread, so i guess it's confirmed | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | that appears to have been posted by me. | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, he said he checked 3/3 ips matched. | 20:54 |
| Nautis | well none of his thread titles folowed posting protocol either | 20:54 |
| stinebd | we should probably take the warez out of our stuff | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, warez!?? lol | 20:54 |
| stinebd | gapps | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | that's warez? | 20:54 |
| stinebd | technically | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | i guess CM can't include it | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | he got a cease & desist for it. | 20:54 |
| stinebd | google knows all about us btw | 20:55 |
| stinebd | and never said a word | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure they do | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | our junk helped them push more android phones | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | at this stage, probably not | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | but early on lol | 20:55 |
| stinebd | i asked the one girl and she didn't really say anything useful about it | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | the one girl? | 20:55 |
| stinebd | someone on the android team | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | tell her to help | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:56 |
| stinebd | i talked with a few of them when i kept getting the interview invitations | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure that would break an NDA or two. | 20:56 |
| stinebd | non-compete if anything, but it's open source | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | true | 20:56 |
| stinebd | i have to announce my vacation via twitter more often | 20:58 |
| stinebd | i've been getting all kinds of replies there and on facebook about it | 20:58 |
| stinebd | apparently my world travels are an interesting subject | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | anyone's world travels are an interesting subject | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | because it's not where ever we are :P | 20:59 |
| Nautis | any requests to bring back radioactive milk? | 20:59 |
| stinebd | it doesn't go well with spinach | 21:01 |
| stinebd | has Entropy512 finished porting libgps to gingerbread? | 21:01 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | he wants migration docs | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | fr -> gb | 21:02 |
| stinebd | so does everyone else | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | not sure how to break the news to him that he's SOL | 21:03 |
| stinebd | but it's java, the code is self-documenting! | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | not like he had much to go off of other than the code | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:03 |
| stinebd | well guys, best buy is closed | 21:05 |
| stinebd | time to go execute my well-planned heist | 21:05 |
| stinebd | oh god logged | 21:05 |
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| rpierce99 | i didn't hear that | 21:06 |
| stinebd | it's irc | 21:06 |
| stinebd | you have to plug your eyes | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | camel time? | 21:06 |
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| odz | why is it sms doesnt suffer from the 30secs to sleep problem? doesnt it switch from 3G to 2G to send the msg just like when you make a call? | 21:22 |
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| stinebd | if it does, then lol@cdma | 21:24 |
| Entropy512 | you running CDMA? SMS doesn't switch to 2G on GSM | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, neither for a phone call | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | on gsm | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | but on cdma it kinda has to in its current implementation. | 21:25 |
| stinebd | i don't know how you guys use that stuff | 21:25 |
| stinebd | can't even internet while you talk | 21:25 |
| Entropy512 | right - might not need to drop to 2G for SMS | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | i live in the 12th century stinebd | 21:25 |
| stinebd | lies | 21:25 |
| Entropy512 | It's odd that BOTH GSM and CDMA have 30 sec to sleep when in a 2G mode | 21:25 |
| stinebd | cdma text messages are encoded in hieroglyphics | 21:26 |
| Entropy512 | even though the 2G modes are completely different | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:26 |
| Entropy512 | unless it's related to being in a mode that can't do simultaneous voice and data | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, it's a command that's being passed and isn't receiving a response. 30s is the timeout | 21:26 |
| stinebd | 2g on gsm can do voice and data | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ how wistilt2 explained it to me. | 21:26 |
| stinebd | i bet wistilt2 is just tiad8ing it | 21:26 |
| stinebd | talking up big about his ril | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol right | 21:27 |
| stinebd | and then his patch will be a huge binary diff to make it the htc ril | 21:27 |
| Entropy512 | stinebd: it's supported by the standard, but to my knowlege, almost no handsets or carriers support it. | 21:27 |
| Entropy512 | gotta look that up again | 21:27 |
| odz | edvo to 1x* | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, what's your feeling on the modprobe ipv6 in the froyo.user.conf | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | any negative side effects? | 21:47 |
| stinebd | no | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | if not i think i'll just bundle it like that, unless there's some 'better' way to enable it thru init | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno what the proper method for enabling that. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | would be | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | if that's where you want me to put it | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | it shall be so in the next bundle | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i think people loved tiad because he would bundle crap constantly | 21:50 |
| stinebd | it's fine there | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | always saying he fixed this or fixed that, but he really just changed the look of the ui | 21:51 |
| stinebd | if you seem emwe bug him to build it into .35 | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if he got his RHOD yet | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 21:51 |
| rpierce99 | he didn't, i asked him this morning | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | :( | 21:51 |
| rpierce99 | he said it's likely stuck at the place where they charge the import fees | 21:52 |
| rpierce99 | whatever the hell that racket is called | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | customs | 21:52 |
| rpierce99 | here yes, there no | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | o yea | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | poopensteinburg | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | in german | 21:52 |
| Entropy512 | ok back to tv | 21:53 |
| Entropy512 | :P | 21:53 |
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| Entropy512 | whoa omg holy text delay... Either a friend's text just reached me after 2 days, or mine just reached them | 22:00 |
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| arrrghhh | GSM SMS messages travel via pony express nowadays | 22:00 |
| rpierce99 | or they sat on it for 2 days because they don't like you | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | at&t is all out of money after buying tmo | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | telegram! | 22:01 |
| Entropy512 | Nah, the wording is such that it's clear something got delayed. | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | t....telegram? | 22:01 |
| Entropy512 | "Are you coming to wine club tonight?" (sent from event referenced Sat night) - Just got a reply "Are you going?" | 22:02 |
| Entropy512 | holy crap - our bootanimations are just a series of PNGs in a zip? | 22:04 |
| Entropy512 | or is that just tiad8's bootanim? | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | nope, thats how they're made afaik | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | it's that simple to make a new one too | 22:04 |
| Entropy512 | well, the thing I remember being a dumb claim was that a different bootanim would make it boot faster | 22:06 |
| Entropy512 | we loop until we're ready... a shorter bootanim won't help anything on android | 22:06 |
| Entropy512 | or at least xdandroid | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't think so lol | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | no bootani, black screen definitely isn't shorter | 22:07 |
| Entropy512 | unfortunately, tiad8's sheep believed him on that one probably | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | they believed him on anything. | 22:08 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know how much time it actually takes, but bootani certainly has to be read into memory and then processed enough to get the graphics to show up, but i'd guess it's miniscule | 22:08 |
| Entropy512 | Not showing it might make a small amount of difference | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 22:09 |
| Entropy512 | but changing its length - not gonna make a difference since it loops a lot | 22:09 |
| Entropy512 | looks like tiad8 grabbed something from CM - since there's a CM changelog in FROYO X RED | 22:10 |
| Entropy512 | (I'm looking through the filesystem for anything particularly useful/interesting) | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea he basically kanged a neopeek build to make all of his stuff | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | well i shouldn't say all | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | but froyo x | 22:16 |
| Entropy512 | I assume neopeek = CM ported to similar targets as xdandroid? | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | neopeek uses our kernels | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | and makes builds that require you to partition your sd card | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | at least all the builds i've seen from them have required that. | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | hmm, interesting. I should check out one of his rootfs releases | 22:27 |
| Entropy512 | since the init script is in rootfs | 22:27 |
| Entropy512 | that's where we autodetect partition vs. image | 22:27 |
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| Entropy512 | I know partition lets you get mass storage sort of working (can access it from the PC, but can't return to "normal" without a reboot) | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | tiad uses our rootfs AFAIK | 22:27 |
| Entropy512 | meant one of the neopeek rootfs releases | 22:28 |
| Entropy512 | to see why the force partitioning | 22:29 |
| Entropy512 | they | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what they're using tbh | 22:29 |
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| Entropy512 | I wonder where the term "kang" came from, never saw it before I started playing with xdandroid | 22:32 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 22:32 |
| Entropy512 | I like it, it's cool | 22:32 |
| Entropy512 | like asshat, and fuckstick | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:32 |
| Entropy512 | ok now really watching TV | 22:34 |
| Entropy512 | :P | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:35 |
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| Tandy|7540 | lol | 22:44 |
| Tandy|7540 | Froyo X Red? | 22:44 |
| Tandy|7540 | anywhere I can download a package? I see rootfs, initrd, and the kernel, but isn't there a third part? | 22:48 |
| Tandy|7540 | I think I found it through some clever googling (googling "froyo x red" usually helps :P ) | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | it was pulled | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | it had warez in it | 22:49 |
| Tandy|7540 | aah | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | why | 22:49 |
| Tandy|7540 | Curious to see what rubbish he came up with | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | the build.prop was entertaining. | 22:50 |
| Tandy|7540 | heh | 22:50 |
| Tandy|7540 | Wow, I need to organize my SD card | 22:50 |
| Tandy|7540 | I just have android builds here and there in subfolders, and one in the root | 22:50 |
| Tandy|7540 | ...an XDA_UC folder, music... geez. | 22:51 |
| Tandy|7540 | Ugh | 22:54 |
| Tandy|7540 | I'm reading some of tiad8's threads. It's sorta annoying how people are posting rubbish like "OMG TIAD8 UR SO AMAZIN PROGRAMMAR WITHT THA TOUCH PRO HAVE MAH BABIS PL0X :3" | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | that's why i usually just don't read them | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | they're a mess. | 22:55 |
| Tandy|7540 | yep | 22:55 |
| Tandy|7540 | Yet in the XDAndroid thread, people seem to post more legitimate stuff. And they speak the queen's english rather well. | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | not always | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | but i guess | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | where else are you reading his madness? | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | neopeek? | 22:56 |
| Tandy|7540 | xda-developers | 22:58 |
| Tandy|7540 | I honestly have no clue what neopeek is | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | i see what you're saying | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | nvm | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:59 |
| Tandy|7540 | :P | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | german dev | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | seems kinda sharp | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | but does his own thing | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | made his own forum | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's how much he does his own thing. | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | his builds always required a separate ext2 partition on the SD card | 22:59 |
| Tandy|7540 | ah | 23:02 |
| Tandy|7540 | seems like an unnecessary pain | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | it has some benefits | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | but it is much more difficult to setup. | 23:04 |
| Tandy|7540 | yeah, and it requires Linux, which I'm *still* too lazy to reboot into | 23:07 |
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| arrrghhh | Touch, FRX05 is froyo | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | GBX0A is gingerbread | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | froyo is more stable | 23:11 |
| Tandy|7540 | gingerbread is more fun :P | 23:11 |
| Touch | whats that is that CAB - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | gingerbread feels a little faster, and it fun to play with - but there's some pretty harsh bugs. no gps, data blows up | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, that's ancient | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | no body distributes a cab anymore. | 23:12 |
| Touch | and whats gThen rar | 23:12 |
| Touch | i ment then RAR - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN | 23:12 |
| Tandy|7540 | A .rar archive of BLAZN's Froyo build, it would seem. | 23:13 |
| Touch | ya, is that good | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, ancient | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | FRX05 is newest XDAndroid build | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | or GB | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | GBX0a | 23:13 |
| Touch | whats a FRX05, is that good | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | it's what i use for my 'daily driver' if you will | 23:14 |
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| arrrghhh | Touch, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 23:15 |
| Touch | thanks and does wi fi work on this os | 23:15 |
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| arrrghhh | yup | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've been able to use both wifi and wifi tethering - but the latter is a little flaky when you go to disable it. | 23:17 |
| Touch | And the phone, camra, The android marketplace to get apps | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | camera is far from flawless, and it was just recently rendered functional. | 23:18 |
| Touch | and we save this file to a SD card rite | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | read thru the first post | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | heck the first two wouldn't hurt | 23:19 |
| Touch | k | 23:19 |
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| arrrghhh | check the FAQ if you have a question | 23:19 |
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| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh, what do you mean Gingerbread 'seems' faster? It's not actually faster? I'M LIVING A LIE?!?! | 23:20 |
| Tandy|7540 | </dramatic sarcasm> | 23:20 |
| Touch | hey can i get this and 2.2 | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, wha? | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | frx05 is 2.2.2 | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | in fact | 23:20 |
| Touch | sry im new | 23:21 |
| Tandy|7540 | <dramatic> FRX05 is 1/3 the number of the *beast* </dramatic> | 23:21 |
| Touch | so if i download this i can still move back and forth to androisd and microsoft rite | 23:22 |
| Tandy|7540 | arrrghhh, on the Raph800 with GBX0A the hardware buttons like to quit working after I wake the device | 23:22 |
| Tandy|7540 | but only *sometimes* | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, of course | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | it's running everything off of your sd card | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | that's the beauty | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | it just boots winmo out of memory | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | so if you reboot from android, it takes you back to winmo. | 23:23 |
| Touch | awsome and all the things u save on the android pages still stay there rite | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea, in the data.img file | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | which can get corrupted | 23:24 |
| Tandy|7540 | so back it up | 23:24 |
| Touch | and how many pages does it have 3 or 7 | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | so if someone tells you to blast it out, delete it etc | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | it'll blow away everything | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, that's up to you | 23:24 |
| Touch | cool | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | need an aftermarket launcher | 23:24 |
| Tandy|7540 | 5 by default, I think | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | for multiple home screens | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | default launcher has 4 IIRC | 23:24 |
| Tandy|7540 | no | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh right 5 | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | with the 'main' one | 23:25 |
| Tandy|7540 | far left, left, middle, right, far right | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea yea | 23:25 |
| Tandy|7540 | :P | 23:25 |
| Tandy|7540 | Well, I'm tired. later | 23:25 |
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| Touch | cool and does it make the phone slow by downloading it | 23:25 |
| Touch | and im going to download from http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads is that good | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | huh? | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | the link i gave you | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | has everything you should need in the first post | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | has info on updating | 23:27 |
| Touch | is this website good to download from | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | everything | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | i told you those are outdated builds, ancient. | 23:27 |
| Touch | oh so do i go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | yes, that's what i linked you to earlier... | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | is there something that's confusing in the first post? | 23:28 |
| Touch | naw ill be back | 23:29 |
| Touch | wait this will work even if i have sprint to rite | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | yes... | 23:30 |
| Touch | and how big should the Memory on the Sd card be | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | didja read the FAQ? | 23:33 |
| Touch | and i remember u posting GBX0a is that better then FRX05 | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | in what way? | 23:34 |
| Touch | nevermind but if i download it wrong will it damage my phone | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | i make no guarantees it will not damage your phone | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | i've never damaged my phone using this | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | in theory it's safer than custom ROMs | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | no flashing involved (yet) | 23:36 |
| Touch | ok and i have to take my sim card out in this whole process rite | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | if you're on CDMA, yes there's no need for a SIM | 23:37 |
| Touch | but i think i am so do i take it out cuz all the videos say i have to take it out | 23:38 |
| Entropy512 | GBX0A is based on Android Gingerbread, which is newer, but is less complete at this point. | 23:38 |
| Entropy512 | which is why it's an alpha release | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, yes you must remove the SIM - but if you're on CDMA the SIM is of no use! | 23:39 |
| Touch | cool thanks | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | np | 23:41 |
| Entropy512 | Touch - what carrier are you on? | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | sprint | 23:41 |
| Entropy512 | ah missed that | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | no worries | 23:41 |
| Entropy512 | yeah SIM is only useful if you're worldphoning it out-of-country on sprint | 23:41 |
| Entropy512 | I would go for FRX05 - it's a little more polished/stable than GBX0A | 23:42 |
| Entropy512 | GBX0A is the bleeding edge - the newest but the buggiest | 23:42 |
| Entropy512 | and do NOT go for a NAND build - those blow away Windows Mobile | 23:43 |
| Entropy512 | the FRX05 bundle linked above is your best bet | 23:43 |
| Touch | thanks | 23:44 |
| Entropy512 | As arrrghhh said, one can never guarantee no damage, but when running from the SD card - I've never seen anyone hose their phone in any way. | 23:44 |
| Entropy512 | the only thing I'd advise is that if you use the microSD heavily in winmo | 23:45 |
| Entropy512 | use a separate clean one for your Android adventures | 23:45 |
| Entropy512 | don't have to, but it is nice | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512 also has SDOCD | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | he forgets to tell you that :P | 23:46 |
| Touch | whats a SDOCD | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | obsessive-compulsive disorder over SD cards | 23:46 |
| Entropy512 | lol | 23:47 |
| Touch | haha it cool thanks for the help | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | np | 23:47 |
| Entropy512 | yes, Entropy512 has bugs that are still pending fixes. :P | 23:47 |
| Touch | and last question | 23:47 |
| Entropy512 | but builds take 31 years | 23:47 |
| Entropy512 | :( | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:47 |
| Touch | and somehow i ended up http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page but on the bottom it says download can i do it from there too | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | you can download pieces | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | i also link to all the pieces in the first post of the thread... | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | that i linked earlier | 23:50 |
| Entropy512 | Yeah. The thread arrrghhh linked to above is a full bundle - system image, rootfs, kernel, initrd | 23:51 |
| Entropy512 | In many cases, when a new system image is released, you just need to update that | 23:51 |
| Entropy512 | and in other cases, kernel updates can fix bugs without having to change the system image | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, don't worry it gets a lot more confusing. | 23:52 |
| Touch | but it says 1. Download the full bundle (zip). when i click on that it it takes me to a epty page | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | right click -> save target as perhaps? | 23:53 |
| Entropy512 | heheh lol to arrrghhh | 23:53 |
| Entropy512 | hmm | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | works on my browser, perhaps its your browser. | 23:53 |
| Entropy512 | Touch: you mean the full bundle from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 ? | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | for me it opens a new tab, then closes the tab and pops up a window to download a .zip file. | 23:54 |
| Entropy512 | I don't see full-bundle links from the xdandroid page but I could be missing them | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | (firefox4) | 23:54 |
| rpierce99 | you early adopter you | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | official release already | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | bitches | 23:55 |
| Entropy512 | Touch: what browser? | 23:55 |
| Entropy512 | In Firefox3.6, I right-click on the full bundle link and save as | 23:55 |
| Entropy512 | works for me | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | what about just clicking on it | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | that should work too | 23:56 |
| Touch | my it just opens a new page and says blank page (intereplorer) | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | Touch, do what i suggested! | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | right click -> save target as | 23:56 |
| Entropy512 | yeah, seems to work - just like yours, a new tab pops up and then the file save dialog pops up | 23:56 |
| Entropy512 | right click -> save target as, or go download Firefox. :P | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | that's about all IE is good for, downloading a different browser. | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | it's not even good at that :/ | 23:57 |
| Entropy512 | amen! | 23:57 |
| Entropy512 | ok back to TV | 23:57 |
| Touch | wait i think it just worked when i right clicked it and clicked open new tab | 23:57 |
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| Touch | thanks ill be back in couple of days for more help bye | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 23:59 |
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