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| visof | hello | 03:48 |
| visof | is htc hd2 good phone for android ? | 03:49 |
| visof | also is running android low efficiency than native phones running android ? | 03:50 |
| visof | like se xperia x10 | 03:50 |
| visof | or even desire | 03:50 |
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| visof | hi | 04:38 |
| visof | isn't there anybody here ? | 04:38 |
| visof | my htc touch diamond is stolen and i will buy another htc one , i need help | 04:39 |
| visof | i liked htc hd2 , bigger screen | 04:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | visof, why not just buy a Android phone? | 05:13 |
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| F22 | hyc: pong | 10:17 |
| F22 | hyc: i posted a reply on xda. will take a look at your patch. it sounds good. | 10:18 |
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| manekineko | F22, you around? | 14:48 |
| F22 | what's up? | 14:51 |
| manekineko | I recall at one point you were thinking about making a way for users to fully customize the key mappings | 14:51 |
| manekineko | rather than killing yourself over that fairly difficult task | 14:51 |
| manekineko | you ever consider having the script check if there is a kl or kcm.bin present in the directory, and using that if present? | 14:52 |
| manekineko | it'd be a straight forward way to make these almost fully customizable | 14:52 |
| manekineko | obviously a little harder, but 80% of the result for 20% of the effort | 14:52 |
| F22 | what do you mean check if there is a kl or kcm.bin present? you mean leave it to the user to move the right kl and kcm.bin into a specified directory? | 14:54 |
| manekineko | have all the stuff you already have so for most users there is no change | 14:54 |
| manekineko | but if you're a user that wants to customize keymaps | 14:54 |
| manekineko | have the init script just check if there are certain files located in the haret directory | 14:54 |
| manekineko | if there are, it'll use those instead | 14:55 |
| F22 | people who want to roll your own keymaps/layouts, likely already know how to replace them. | 14:55 |
| F22 | your=their | 14:56 |
| manekineko | well, my thought is just that editing a txt file is something any user could do | 14:56 |
| manekineko | and almost all the customization anyone would want to do is in the kl files | 14:57 |
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| LoganPhyve | can someone help me find the appropriate HTC RUU update tool? Have an inspire, rooted using bubby's one click, then did a radio S-OFF | 15:00 |
| LoganPhyve | went to reinstall eng-s-off and got a bootloader corrupt message | 15:00 |
| LoganPhyve | forums point to using HTC RUU tool to do a rom update | 15:00 |
| LoganPhyve | not sure where to find the tool for the HTC Inspire 4g | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | this room is for helping people with winmo phones that want to run android | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | how did you end up here? | 15:01 |
| F22 | manekineko: i'm willing to consider it. i'm just not thrilled with the idea of supporting the more clueless users who attempt it and then botch it. | 15:02 |
| LoganPhyve | ah, must have misread the channel name, sorry for the inconvinience | 15:02 |
| LoganPhyve | my appologies | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | np | 15:02 |
| F22 | manekineko: i'm already getting some pretty weird complaints as it is. | 15:02 |
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| F22 | currently to get a new map or layout in there takes a certain knowledge level. that's a good thing in some ways. | 15:03 |
| manekineko | hah alright | 15:04 |
| F22 | a bad keymap will prevent android from booting. | 15:04 |
| manekineko | just figured it might be an easier way for you to deal with all the different requests people have for different layouts | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | we support all the layout's 'cept russian | 15:05 |
| F22 | that's exactly why i'm willing to consider it. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | which native android doesn't do evidently. | 15:05 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, I mean people that want home = call, menu = end and all the other layouts people dream up | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | oh jesus. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | screw those people :P | 15:05 |
| manekineko | and personally, I still have mine set to have envelope = @, since i use that a lot more than I use Ctrl | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | they can hack it if they want to. | 15:06 |
| manekineko | heh well I know your thought on the matter arrrghhh, but I remember F22 was thinking about making this fully customizable at one point via user land or something | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | seems like a lot of work for little payoff. | 15:06 |
| manekineko | a lot of work? it's like a couple lines in init scripts | 15:07 |
| manekineko | easy stuff | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | uhhh | 15:07 |
| F22 | ahh...my interest in that option is more for people who to make say a hungarian keymap or something like that. this way they can more quickly test their changes. | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, i'm not talking about that. | 15:07 |
| F22 | this way i can hand off responsibility for other keymaps to people who care the most about them. | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | i'm talking about all the idiots that would manage to botch it. | 15:07 |
| manekineko | alright, well, I have no skin in this game, I'm happy with customizing my own, was just a thought | 15:08 |
| F22 | for layout buttons...i have a layout configuration script in the works. | 15:08 |
| F22 | actually it's not a script, i'm writing it in c for efficiency. | 15:08 |
| manekineko | heh wow | 15:09 |
| manekineko | this is just for the bootup script right? | 15:09 |
| manekineko | are these slow enough that effficiency is an issue? | 15:10 |
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| F22 | i'm a perfectionist. and c isn't so bad. :P | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | efficiency is always an issue :P | 15:12 |
| manekineko | you have any idea off hand what would need to be done to convert our XDAndroid loopback file systems approach to a partitioned SD card approach? | 15:15 |
| manekineko | I was thinking about playing with that | 15:16 |
| manekineko | I'm kinda convinced by jonpry's argument that proper partitioning is better than NAND | 15:16 |
| F22 | i've been wanting to do that for awhile. haven't gotten around to it though. | 15:16 |
| manekineko | and I asked around at a Neopeek, and apparently that's enough to get USB mass storage working, as well as eliminate SD card errors | 15:16 |
| F22 | yeah, that stuff is in the init script. | 15:17 |
| manekineko | is the only relevant script the one in the rootfs? | 15:17 |
| F22 | init and init.xxxxx.rc set up android's environment, including partitions | 15:19 |
| F22 | where xxxxx is your android build like froyo or gingerbread | 15:20 |
| F22 | but those scripts are in the rootfs, yes. | 15:21 |
| F22 | you need to create at least one ext2 partition, and drop the contents of rootfs.img, system.ext2 and data.img in it/them. | 15:23 |
| F22 | and modify the init scripts appropriately. | 15:24 |
| manekineko | any idea why all the Neopeek builds out there seem to use only 2 partitions, one for system and then a FAT one for the SD card? | 15:25 |
| manekineko | seems like it'd be ideal to add a 3rd partition for data.img | 15:25 |
| manekineko | to avoid any loopback filesystems at all | 15:25 |
| F22 | a separate writable partition for data image isn't necessary then. | 15:26 |
| F22 | the current setup limits the corruption issues to just the data image since the others don't get written to. | 15:27 |
| manekineko | but they're still using a data.img, I wonder how they're avoiding corruption | 15:28 |
| manekineko | but when I asked, they seemed to think they were | 15:28 |
| manekineko | hmm but they do allocate a swap partition on the card | 15:31 |
| F22 | i haven't gotten around to looking more closely at how neopeek is handling it yet. writing to an actual ext2 partition is less complex then writing to a virtual ext2 partition embedded in a file on a FAT32 partition. so some existing bugs may get avoided that way. | 15:31 |
| manekineko | does our current XDAndroid approach even swap at all? | 15:31 |
| manekineko | I don't think so right? | 15:31 |
| F22 | it does if you have compcache installed | 15:32 |
| manekineko | where does it swap to? | 15:32 |
| F22 | sort of | 15:32 |
| F22 | ram | 15:32 |
| F22 | it compresses it | 15:32 |
| manekineko | hmm, so no disk swap like they're doing | 15:32 |
| manekineko | in their case they wouldn't be writing to an ext2 still I think, since their data.img should still be on the FAT partition in data.img | 15:33 |
| F22 | the stock (but not the WisTilt2) kernels have compcache's modules added to the mix in the modules file. xdandroid uses them if they're present. | 15:34 |
| F22 | it's not clear to me that they're properly optimized however. | 15:35 |
| F22 | android shouldn't really need swap for the same reason it doesn't need a task-killer. | 15:36 |
| manekineko | I'm most surprised by the fact that they say they don't get card errors, I don't see any reason they wouldn't, but I'll try it and see I suppose | 15:38 |
| F22 | well behaved apps should write out their state before they get terminated. android will then keep as much info in memory as long as it can. if it needs to restart after the info is no longer in memory, it just reads the state from the sd card. | 15:38 |
| F22 | like i said, there is less complexity writing to a real ext2 partition. | 15:40 |
| F22 | different code gets used. | 15:40 |
| F22 | so bugs may get avoided. | 15:40 |
| F22 | or bugs may be present, but they may only damage the affected file, so the damage is less severe than if there was an overall image that could get damaged. | 15:42 |
| manekineko | but how are they writing to a real ext2 partition? | 15:42 |
| manekineko | doesn't seem like they are | 15:42 |
| F22 | what partition type are they using? | 15:42 |
| manekineko | well, actually let me hold up on it til I see it for myself | 15:43 |
| manekineko | I have been working on the assumption that they're still using a data.img loopback | 15:43 |
| manekineko | on the FAT file system | 15:43 |
| manekineko | but let me see for myself how this works | 15:43 |
| manekineko | I'm getting one of their builds now | 15:43 |
| F22 | as i was saying before, when a bad write damages a file, the problem is more severe if the file is the entire partition. | 15:44 |
| F22 | so there are several possible explanations | 15:45 |
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| arrrghhh | manekineko, they have data and system in the ext2 AFAIK | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | could be wrong, been forever since i messed with their junk :P | 16:36 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: got an xdandroid handy? | 17:43 |
| stinebd | screw it i'm just gonna mark it as invalid, i'm fairly sure i know what this guy is talking about | 17:43 |
| stinebd | bug 108 btw, which seems asinine | 17:43 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=108 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, japanese secction in german settings for language and keyboard | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | 108? | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | it's "valid" | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | but.. not. | 17:44 |
| stinebd | no it isn't | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | same thing happens on english. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | what does that section even say? | 17:44 |
| stinebd | it's intended behavior | 17:44 |
| stinebd | because not all japanese people can read english | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | i just assumed it was something for japanese speakers or whatever. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | i'm kinda curious what it says | 17:44 |
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| arrrghhh | but i thought it was expected as well. | 17:44 |
| stinebd | the japanese? | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to close it, but wanted to talk to you about it. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:44 |
| stinebd | it says japanese keyboard | 17:45 |
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| stinebd | for make super android happy fun time text | 17:45 |
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| stinebd | (loose translation) | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | LMAO | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome. | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | so you're going to close the bug as invalid? | 17:45 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:45 |
| stinebd | my favorite resolution | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | i was tempted to, just wanted to be sure that was truly expected behavior. | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | probably the most common for new bugs! | 17:46 |
| stinebd | btw i stole $10 from the war chest and renewed the domain name | 17:46 |
| stinebd | bam | 17:47 |
| stinebd | law laid down | 17:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hey stinebd, did you get my msg? | 17:47 |
| stinebd | nah | 17:47 |
| stinebd | i mean i did but i ignored it | 17:48 |
| NeoMatrixJR | :( | 17:48 |
| stinebd | do you build from source? | 17:48 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I just have FRX05 pre-built right now | 17:48 |
| stinebd | ok | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:48 |
| stinebd | the change was that i switched to the userdebug build variant for FRX05 | 17:49 |
| stinebd | in the process, spare parts and those ancillary programs in /system/xbin were taken out | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | you can get spare parts from the market | 17:49 |
| stinebd | really? | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | not sure about dev tools, never used anything from it except term emu which connectbot works nicely. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yes, but comically it has ads in it! | 17:49 |
| NeoMatrixJR | that removed hcitool and hciconfig? (and yeah, I already downloaded spare parts. needed it to fix the end = home issue) | 17:50 |
| stinebd | cool | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i first fired it up and i was like 'WTF ads in settings!?!? oh wait... spare parts from the market..." | 17:50 |
| stinebd | hcitool and hciconfig are used exclusively for release engineering tests, not at all on production devices | 17:50 |
| stinebd | i'll probably add spare parts back to the packages list but i don't think it's worth bothering with the xbin stuff | 17:51 |
| NeoMatrixJR | o i c. do you still happen to have compiled versions laying around that I could download and dump into my FRX05 image? I don't have the ability to download the system source and compile at this time (my real dev machine crapped out, so I'm using a VM @ work) | 17:51 |
| bzo | stinebd: if I create working /sys/classes/led/* stuff, is there anything else needed for android to control the lights? | 17:51 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: not handy, sorry | 17:52 |
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| stinebd | bzo: liblights should be properly configured | 17:52 |
| peejay_ | hi all! | 17:52 |
| bzo | stinebd: so how does it know to trigger keyboard lights vs. button lights? | 17:53 |
| bzo | is there some config somewhere? | 17:53 |
| stinebd | which keyboard lights? caps/fn? | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, for what? what do you need it fer? | 17:53 |
| bzo | for now, I'm just looking at moving the keyboard backlight to userland control, and front button as well | 17:53 |
| NeoMatrixJR | testing BT work that viruscrazy's working on | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, o? i haven't seen any threads. i'd be willing to help with that as well. | 17:53 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I may have to see if I still have an FRX04 laying around I can grab them from | 17:54 |
| peejay_ | got a strange problem with xdandroid 2.2.2 on htc raphael - while booting for the first time, i can't see calibration marks, so i can't calibrate screen in a good order.. someone could tell me which parts of the screen i should touch in which order? | 17:54 |
| stinebd | bzo: keyboard backlight should have its own brightness hook in sysfs | 17:54 |
| stinebd | as well as buttons | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | peejay_, are you downloading my build? | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | i address this issue in the first post of my builds... | 17:54 |
| NeoMatrixJR | he hasn't said anything yet. I think he's waiting until he gets the audio portion working. I'm just trying to see if I can get it to come online. I think it will, but I'm not sure yet. | 17:54 |
| bzo | stinebd: I guess my confusion is that both keyboard and front panel buttons all map to some key id, so how does android know which is which? | 17:54 |
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| peejay_ | arrrgh: FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 | 17:55 |
| bzo | stinebd: i.e. to turn on keyboard backlight vs button backlight | 17:55 |
| stinebd | bzo: hmmm, based on the input device type perhaps | 17:55 |
| stinebd | gonna have to look into that | 17:55 |
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| stinebd | our answer is in frameworks/base somewhere | 17:56 |
| peejay_ | arrrghhh: FRX05_Full_Bundle_3.3.2011 [excuse me for typo in your nick above] | 17:56 |
| stinebd | i shall grep | 17:56 |
| bzo | stinebd: I did notice that there are separate keymap files for the keyboard and buttons | 17:56 |
| stinebd | bzo: yes but on our devices it's very wonky at the moment | 17:57 |
| hyc | I'm running current FRX05 with dedicated system and data partitions | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | typo? that's correctly. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | oh the first one. | 17:57 |
| hyc | manekineko: the current init script already supports this | 17:57 |
| bzo | stinebd: I know you and WisTilt2 were talking about moving the caps/fn light to userland as well. Where would that hook in? | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | peejay_, did you read my thread tho? you've downloaded the bundle i posted, but have you read my thread... i address this issue in my thread. | 17:58 |
| hyc | it looks for mmcblk0p3 to be system and p4 to be data | 17:58 |
| stinebd | bzo: a modified liblights and frameworks/base would be required for that | 17:58 |
| bzo | stinebd: ok, so we should get that simpler stuff working first | 17:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: looks like FRX04 didn't have hcitool or hciconfig either.... | 17:59 |
| peejay_ | oh, i tried to find some help here on wiki, i'll check the thread - thanks for hint! | 17:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | d .. | 17:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oops | 17:59 |
| stinebd | bzo: definitely | 17:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | holy CRAP it worked. BT is UP! | 18:04 |
| hyc | what worked? | 18:04 |
| stinebd | bt | 18:05 |
| hyc | hciconfig? | 18:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | no. hciconfig and hcitool aren't on our android, but it worked through the android interface | 18:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I can SEE bluetooth devices! | 18:05 |
| hyc | cool | 18:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, it's time to go home. I'll have to configure BT on my computer at home and try to get them talking | 18:06 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:06 |
| stinebd | scanning is the easy part | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | pairing and actually passing audio/data... | 18:06 |
| stinebd | pairing is also easy | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | you're easy | 18:07 |
| stinebd | associating services is when the defecatory turbine is activated | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:08 |
| bzo | stinebd: well, I have a working /sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness that matches liblights, but android doesn't seem to be calling it | 18:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | audio doesn't work, but it saw, paired with, and tried to use my headset | 18:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | the "action" button on the headset was able to hang up the call at least | 18:08 |
| bzo | won't work without the rest of jb's fixes | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, indeed. jb is working on the audio routing problem. | 18:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yep | 18:09 |
| hyc | how is audio routing controlled? also thru gpios? | 18:09 |
| bzo | incantations and spells | 18:09 |
| stinebd | bzo: built your android from source? | 18:09 |
| bzo | stinebd: yes | 18:10 |
| hyc | was wondering why in-call audio doesn't work with libhtc_ril.so and if it can be fixed easily | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | hyc is taking the tiad8 route. | 18:10 |
| stinebd | bzo: might be helpful to edit frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/PowerManagerService.java and set mSpew = true | 18:10 |
| stinebd | that's where all the ugly lights crap really happens | 18:10 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: that's harsh. I've compiled my own build. | 18:10 |
| stinebd | also which branch? | 18:10 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, I gotta go now. later guys! | 18:10 |
| bzo | stinebd: gb | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, lol but you're just trying to bang in a RIL from your G1 no? | 18:11 |
| hyc | yes, but no one has given a good reason why it won't work | 18:11 |
| hyc | HTC's own docs say it is generic | 18:11 |
| stinebd | bzo: ok, make sure liblights is actually loading then heh. upon switching bootloader names i never actually checked to make sure it still loads *.msm7k.so drivers | 18:11 |
| stinebd | hyc: generic contingent upon proper kernel support i suspect | 18:12 |
| hyc | and in some respects it works better - the 2G switch works on it. | 18:12 |
| bzo | stinebd: it must be else, the camera and such wouldn't work no? | 18:12 |
| stinebd | bzo: backlight wouldn't come back after sleep. camera doesn't use liblights. | 18:13 |
| bzo | stinebd: well, I mean everything else in xdandroid-hardware_msm7k seesms to be loaded | 18:13 |
| stinebd | that's true, but the only other msm7k stuff we use is copybit and gralloc nowadays | 18:15 |
| hyc | and actually arrrghhh, you're the one who inspired me to try this, with your mention of the rilwrapper | 18:15 |
| stinebd | so you'd definitely notice if those weren't loaded | 18:15 |
| hyc | which also sorta works - it uses pppd for data, and that worked. | 18:15 |
| stinebd | ril wrapper worked fine for me but it wouldn't work in a dual mode device | 18:15 |
| hyc | stinebd: worked fine 100%? I still had no in-call audio with the wrapper. | 18:16 |
| stinebd | well it might with that dual mode ril that came out | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, lol. don't blame me for your tiad attempts :P | 18:16 |
| hyc | :P | 18:16 |
| stinebd | hyc: yes but that was on a raph | 18:16 |
| stinebd | i believe audio codepaths have diverged for rhod | 18:16 |
| hyc | where did the underlying htc_ril.so come from? | 18:16 |
| hyc | oh | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | vogue IIRC | 18:17 |
| stinebd | our current ril is custom based (ultimately) on the reference ril from way back in donut or cupcake) | 18:18 |
| stinebd | -) | 18:18 |
| stinebd | thank god that api is stable | 18:18 |
| hyc | hmmmm. No that doesn't make sense, Vogue was not a native Android device | 18:19 |
| hyc | htc_ril.so would have had to come from an android phone | 18:19 |
| stinebd | so? | 18:19 |
| stinebd | ? | 18:19 |
| stinebd | libhtc_ril.so we don't use | 18:19 |
| hyc | I mean the underlying .so that was used with the ril wrapper | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea we don't use a generic htc ril | 18:19 |
| stinebd | ohh | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | we don't use a ril wrapper | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | HD2 does | 18:19 |
| stinebd | yeah we use a ril from source | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | vogue source :P | 18:20 |
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| stinebd | not quite | 18:20 |
| hyc | Yes, I know, but stinebd said that ril wrapper worked for him | 18:20 |
| hyc | just wanted to know which htc_ril he tested with | 18:20 |
| stinebd | the ril i used for that was from dream | 18:20 |
| hyc | ok | 18:20 |
| hyc | so the same I'm using then | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | i'm aching to see what wistilt2's radio guy comes up with. | 18:20 |
| stinebd | i'd be interested in any results with the lexicon ril | 18:21 |
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| hyc | is that available anywhere? I hadn't heard of it and it was announced late last year | 18:23 |
| stinebd | yes let me find the link | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | xirxies dug out the RIL | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's just the .so tho AFAIK | 18:24 |
| hyc | I would expect that's all that matters | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | Nothing is illegal in mxico | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | damned mexicans. | 18:24 |
| hyc | hmph. lame 4-row keyboard, HTC is really cheaping out. | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | well yea | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | everyone wants slimmer faster better | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | for cheaper | 18:26 |
| hyc | they seem to forget "functional" .... morons | 18:27 |
| stinebd | postgres slooooow | 18:29 |
| stinebd | or i have too much stuff in this database | 18:29 |
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| hyc | ugh. Deutsche Telekom may sell T-Mobile US to Sprint | 18:32 |
| hyc | then there would be no decent GSM carrier in the US | 18:33 |
| stinebd | there's no decent gsm carrier now | 18:33 |
| hyc | well, t-mobile has better prices than AT&T | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't mean they're a decent carrier | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | means they're a carrier for teenagers. | 18:34 |
| hyc | lol | 18:34 |
| stinebd | yeah never use att as a decent carrier benchmark | 18:34 |
| hyc | They launched android in the US | 18:34 |
| hyc | to me that shows that at least they're willing to be innovative | 18:34 |
| hyc | even if they didn't know how to support it for shit | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, or willing to get tweens | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | tmo has always done that. had the newest/hottest phones on the shittiest/cheapest network. | 18:35 |
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| [acl] | stine around ? | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | he's always around. | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | he might be hiding from you tho | 18:36 |
| [acl] | i figured | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:36 |
| stinebd | trying to find that damn ril | 18:36 |
| [acl] | stinebd: question about the source for recovery | 18:37 |
| stinebd | hurry dinner time | 18:37 |
| [acl] | stinebd: that was it.. do we have source for recovery ? i know its one of the android projects just didnt know if we had our source online at all | 18:37 |
| stinebd | yes | 18:37 |
| hyc | phonescoop.com has no info on the HTC Lexicon | 18:38 |
| stinebd | bootable/recovery/ | 18:38 |
| hyc | what about the EVO Shift 4G? | 18:38 |
| [acl] | stinebd: ok.. but on which project on xndaroid ? i couldnt find it yest | 18:38 |
| stinebd | we don't have an xdandroid fork | 18:38 |
| [acl] | hmm.. ok.. makes it easier | 18:38 |
| [acl] | its not too dependant on the release so it can be separate | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, not dual-mode | 18:39 |
| [acl] | stinebd: mercy.. :-) that is all | 18:39 |
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| hyc | kinda looks similar to HTC Paradise | 18:40 |
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| stinebd | guess that link is dead | 18:47 |
| hyc | bummer | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, the one xirxes posted? | 18:48 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:48 |
| stinebd | mediafire | 18:48 |
| stinebd | ist kaput | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | sad | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully he has it locally | 18:49 |
| stinebd | DU HAST KEIN DOWNLOADLINK | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | and can upload it somewhere that isn't crap. | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | you heard me F22. CRAP | 18:49 |
| F22 | i heard you? | 18:50 |
| stinebd | well time to rip it out of the rom leak | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | that's what xirxes did AFAIK. | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | sorry F22 on a rampage. mediafire sucks :P | 18:51 |
| stinebd | 235MB wtf | 18:51 |
| stinebd | this better be the best phone rom ever | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | stupid raph500 | 18:53 |
| stinebd | raph > rhod | 18:53 |
| stinebd | discuss. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | can we just make that phone boot to some smiley face that says get a real phone? | 18:53 |
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| arrrghhh | in some ways it is | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | led flash | 18:53 |
| F22 | my files are still available. granted, mediafire can be a little flaky at times, but it's free, so i can't complain too much. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | wait that's it. | 18:53 |
| stinebd | in all ways | 18:53 |
| stinebd | sufficient buttonry | 18:53 |
| stinebd | higher density display | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | o right, those shitty buttons. | 18:53 |
| stinebd | less huge form factor | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | that never work right in android | 18:53 |
| stinebd | they work fine in android | 18:54 |
| stinebd | you're just retarded | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | they go insane in android | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | you're a towel | 18:54 |
| stinebd | they go insane in winmo | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | eh, i haven't had my raph in ages. | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | ditched that bitch | 18:54 |
| stinebd | if i had a nickel for every bitch i've ditched... i'd have zero nickels | 18:55 |
| stinebd | so sad | 18:55 |
| * arrrghhh needs moar bacon | 18:55 | |
| arrrghhh | maybe a little more cowbell | 18:56 |
| stinebd | you know what i find hilarious? | 18:56 |
| stinebd | people who do `sudo su -` | 18:56 |
| stinebd | just use sudo -i you damn fossil | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:56 |
| F22 | maybe they've been too busy ditching bitches to pay attention? :P | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | don't quit your day job F22 | 18:58 |
| hyc | lol | 18:58 |
| stinebd | zam he got me | 18:58 |
| stinebd | this thing is gonna take years to download | 18:59 |
| manekineko | hey stinebd, just wanted to see if you saw my post on XDA about the data problems with GRX | 18:59 |
| stinebd | i could fly to china, steal the server that's hosting it and get back here faster | 18:59 |
| stinebd | manekineko: no i didn't. if it's important arrrghhh will link me | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, data problems? | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | i saw some ppls having issues where they shut off the screen and it shuts off data | 19:00 |
| manekineko | hmm ok. well at any rate, phone calls and airplane mode both cause data to stop working even while it shows as connected still | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | but that's not a gb-specific issue. seems GSM related, and only on newer kernels. | 19:00 |
| manekineko | happens 100% of the time, I'm on CDMA | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | phone calls don't break data for me IIRC | 19:01 |
| manekineko | didn't happen on FRX | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea, we're on the same network/phone dude. | 19:01 |
| manekineko | well ya, so can't be GSM related | 19:01 |
| stinebd | also doesn't break data for me on rhod400 | 19:01 |
| stinebd | but then again i don't have data on that | 19:01 |
| stinebd | or phone | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | user-related | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 19:01 |
| manekineko | hm alright | 19:02 |
| stinebd | so arrrghhh how about them kansas city royals? | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | damnit you're going to make me try gb again aren't you manekineko | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | they SUCK | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | lost my retirement fund on them last week. | 19:03 |
| stinebd | you bet your 401k on a spring training game? | 19:03 |
| stinebd | well i guess with the royals those are about as meaningful as regular season games | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | not just mine | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | whole companies. | 19:03 |
| stinebd | ok bernie madoff | 19:04 |
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| hyc | USB mass storage support kinda works already if you use partitions for data and system | 19:05 |
| hyc | (and root too I suppose) | 19:05 |
| stinebd | my god 90KB/s | 19:05 |
| manekineko | yeah, thats what I saw too hyc | 19:05 |
| hyc | What I haven't seen work is USB tethering | 19:05 |
| manekineko | though the build I tried doesn't seem to work with dismounting the USB mass storage | 19:06 |
| stinebd | wifi tethering might work sometimes | 19:06 |
| hyc | yeah I would guess wifi tether should be fine | 19:07 |
| stinebd | i wouldn't say fine | 19:07 |
| stinebd | borderline usable | 19:08 |
| stinebd | shut it down and it's 50/50 that it crashes your device | 19:08 |
| stinebd | or at least mine | 19:08 |
| hyc | mmm | 19:08 |
| manekineko | yeah, that's what I saw too on wifi tether | 19:08 |
| manekineko | both USB tether and wifi tether work with 3rd party programs though apparently | 19:08 |
| hyc | i haven't tried it yet since I don't have a 3G data plan on this sim card | 19:09 |
| hyc | I just figured the wifi driver works, and everything else is just a matter of iptables configuration | 19:09 |
| manekineko | hyc, just saw your message to me about the init scripts earlier, I'll have to try that | 19:09 |
| manekineko | is USB mass storage fully working for you? | 19:10 |
| hyc | but for usb tether, I can't get the usb0 interface to do anything useful | 19:10 |
| hyc | manekineko: I didn't play with it extensively | 19:10 |
| hyc | I enabled it, played with some files, disabled it | 19:10 |
| manekineko | well if it disabled successfully, that sounds promising | 19:10 |
| manekineko | I assume no need for the linuxswap partition right? just dumped both rootfs and system images into their appropriate places on the ext2 partition? | 19:11 |
| hyc | I actually left rootfs.img on the sdcard | 19:12 |
| hyc | I think it would normally be blk0p2. | 19:12 |
| hyc | on my card I didn'tcreate a partition #2 | 19:12 |
| hyc | so i have p1 vfat, p3 system ext2, p4 data ext2 | 19:12 |
| manekineko | so you kept data separate | 19:13 |
| hyc | yes | 19:13 |
| hyc | and right, no need for swap | 19:13 |
| hyc | my experience with swap partitions on the G1 is that they are way too slow | 19:13 |
| manekineko | yeah, the idea of it seemed a little kooky to me | 19:14 |
| hyc | desperate measures for a phone with far too little RAM | 19:14 |
| manekineko | TP2 has more RAM than the G1 I believe, so probably not really called for anyway | 19:14 |
| hyc | exactly | 19:14 |
| stinebd | significantly more | 19:14 |
| hyc | I think a tweak to zygote would have made it tolerable; basically zygote remembers what processes were running, and restarts them periodically when the kernel low-memory killer stopps killing things | 19:15 |
| hyc | but the low-memory killer includes swap space in its count | 19:16 |
| hyc | and you really only want it to consider actual RAM | 19:16 |
| hyc | so it's merrily kicking off new processes until your swap partition is full | 19:17 |
| hyc | and everything slows to a crawl | 19:17 |
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| arrrghhh | manekineko, you are correct sir | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | if you flip data off then back on, it works again. | 19:23 |
| manekineko | yeah | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | but you're right if you make a phone call it doesn't work. hm. | 19:23 |
| manekineko | only seems to affect GRX | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, do you want a logcat? | 19:23 |
| hyc | you're both on CDMA? | 19:23 |
| manekineko | yeah | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | indeedy | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | same phone/network in fact. | 19:24 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: sure, my /dev/null needs some exercise | 19:24 |
| hyc | CDMA doesn't have simultaneous voice/data | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol you could just say 'no' :P | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'll open a bug. | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, uhm... after the call dude. | 19:24 |
| stinebd | make sure this logcat actually has a log of what happened please | 19:24 |
| hyc | so somebody needs to kick ppd again after hangup | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | we're dense, but not THAT dense. | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, happens automatically. | 19:24 |
| manekineko | it shows as connected, just no data flows | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, uhm... it should? | 19:25 |
| stinebd | the last 7 or so you sent me haven't :P | 19:25 |
| manekineko | similar to the old bug that's been plaguing all builds where that happens randomly | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol well those should have as well. | 19:25 |
| manekineko | but on GRX, there is a specific reproducible scenario | 19:25 |
| manekineko | which unfortunately, is rather common, making a call, or using airplane mode | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | using airplane mode is rather common? | 19:27 |
| stinebd | it is for pilots | 19:27 |
| manekineko | okay, well making a call is pretty common at any rate | 19:27 |
| stinebd | questionably so | 19:27 |
| manekineko | this room is even snarkier than usual tonight | 19:27 |
| stinebd | i use like 13 minutes a month | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | same | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really ever use the phone... as a phone. | 19:29 |
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| arrrghhh | well if you don't think a logcat would help, i'll just leave it. | 19:37 |
| stinebd | logcat and logcat -b radio | 19:38 |
| stinebd | both right after it happens this time | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | right after i make the phone call | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | or right after i try to use the 'net after said call | 19:39 |
| stinebd | the whole sequence | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | gotta reboot the phone then, brb. | 19:39 |
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| hyc | oh btw, 54 hours unplugged, 31% battery remaining | 19:46 |
| hyc | on my build of kernel 1276 | 19:46 |
| manekineko | impressive | 19:47 |
| manekineko | you use it all to get that? | 19:47 |
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| hyc | no, only used it actively for about 20 minutes total, the rest of the time just sitting in sleep | 19:47 |
| hyc | but this is with htc_ril - no crashes | 19:48 |
| manekineko | you're on GSM right? | 19:48 |
| hyc | yes | 19:48 |
| hyc | (no crashes, but also no phone audio...) | 19:49 |
| manekineko | are the binaries for the generic htc ril driver identical across different models? | 19:49 |
| hyc | dunno, haven't looked | 19:50 |
| manekineko | might help show just how generic they are, and who knows, might find one that works better | 19:50 |
| hyc | right, that's why stinebd was talking about the ril from the HTC Lexikon | 19:50 |
| manekineko | well, that probably wouldn't apply to you anyway, since you're on a GSM only device | 19:51 |
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| manekineko | Lexikon ril would be nice for the CDMA/GSM combo users though | 19:51 |
| hyc | but lexikon is dual, so it would presumably work on everything | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, logcat -> http://pastebin.com/jA2pEU7A | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, logcat -b radio -> http://pastebin.com/vdYYhm8b | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | booted, made a phone call, tried the 'net. | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | cached pages worked, making me think that it was working. damned cached pages. | 19:52 |
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| F22 | what's the diff between lexikon and merge? | 19:54 |
| hyc | same thing, new name | 19:56 |
| hyc | I think originally merge was going to be a tmo phone. somehow things got shuffled and now it's only verizon | 19:56 |
| F22 | right, i'm not hearing much about lexikon anymore, just merge. | 19:57 |
| F22 | i'm a little behind on my engadget reading, thought i might have missed something. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:59 |
| hyc | yeah, I really haven't heard much of anything about either. | 20:00 |
| hyc | merge or lexikon | 20:00 |
| hyc | since it's only a mid-range phone, and all the hype is about the top end. | 20:01 |
| hyc | and of course, I would've bought a top-end android phone in the first place, if any existed with as good a keyboard as the TP2. | 20:01 |
| stinebd | well i might as well file a bug with these logcats | 20:02 |
| stinebd | and cc phh | 20:03 |
| stinebd | better cc it to his sms email address just to make sure he gets it | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to file a bug. | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | but with you around stinebd, who needs to do that. | 20:03 |
| stinebd | you should file it then | 20:03 |
| stinebd | or manekineko | 20:03 |
| stinebd | or someone | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | goin home. | 20:03 |
| stinebd | with cdma | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | i can file it when i get thar | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | does it happen on GSM? | 20:04 |
| stinebd | ok | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, ? | 20:04 |
| F22 | htc needs to make a high end phone with a kbd for android, but they only seem to attach their top kbds to winmo phones. | 20:04 |
| stinebd | gsm is a funky network that lets you make calls and use data at the same time | 20:04 |
| stinebd | revolutionary technological development | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | MADNESS | 20:04 |
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| hyc | F22: yeah, and the HTC win 7 pro has no SD slot, which also nixes it for me | 20:05 |
| F22 | win 7 has sd slot issues... | 20:05 |
| hyc | so I've heard | 20:06 |
| F22 | samsung released a win 7 phone with an sd slot and it has caused huge headaches for everyone. | 20:06 |
| stinebd | hah | 20:06 |
| hyc | I would never buy any of those phones and run windows anything on it | 20:06 |
| stinebd | only microsoft could screw that up | 20:06 |
| F22 | apparently win 7 only works with some sd cards, and it has nothing to do with class rating. i hear it's a latency issue. | 20:08 |
| stinebd | i hear it's a QA issue | 20:08 |
| hyc | lol | 20:08 |
| F22 | lol | 20:08 |
| hyc | latency could also explain why my class 10 card gets I/O errors | 20:09 |
| F22 | stinebd, my gut agrees with you. :P | 20:09 |
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| hyc | but if it's just a timeout then that could be bumped upward in the driver and forget about it | 20:09 |
| hyc | I've occasionally had I/O errors even when writing from the SD slot in my laptop | 20:10 |
| hyc | and then other times, it works perfectly | 20:11 |
| F22 | well apparently there's also an issue with the sd card formatting. win phone 7 formats the card that is unreadable in any other device, this is a big problem when your phone can't use the card either after it formats it. :P | 20:11 |
| hyc | yeesh | 20:11 |
| hyc | write-only memory | 20:11 |
| F22 | lol | 20:12 |
| F22 | MS says the problem isn't their fault. you need to use an sd card that is certified for windows phone 7. microsoft has not however certified any sd cards for wp7... :P | 20:15 |
| hyc | lol | 20:15 |
| stinebd | it's the sd manufacturers' fault for not applying for certifications | 20:15 |
| stinebd | or not having cards that rawk enough | 20:15 |
| hyc | Funny since it's supposedly the SD Association that defines "what is an SD card" ... | 20:16 |
| hyc | wtf is M$ thinking... | 20:17 |
| stinebd | it's a microsoft subsidiary! | 20:17 |
| hyc | http://www.sdcard.org/developers/about/ | 20:17 |
| hyc | ah well, not the first time M$ shot its own foot | 20:17 |
| hyc | I work on OpenLDAP, we still get bug reports because we implemented a spec that was written by M$ and we do it differently than they do | 20:18 |
| hyc | but we followed their spec, they broke their own spec | 20:18 |
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| F22 | not surprising at all | 20:19 |
| hyc | (in this case, a simple matter of signed vs unsigned int) | 20:19 |
| Fudge | im still on 1253, any progress since then? | 20:20 |
| hyc | Fusge: lots | 20:21 |
| hyc | camera patches are now in the kernel, for example | 20:21 |
| Fudge | sweet i see now on the autopatcher :D | 20:21 |
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| Fudge | can i just confirm, once installed a kernel from the autobuilder site then you can update kernels from the device? | 20:25 |
| hyc | dunno what you mean | 20:26 |
| F22 | just to remove an sd card from a wp7 phone, assuming you can get the thing to work, requires a hard reset. | 20:26 |
| hyc | lol | 20:26 |
| hyc | switching topics for a sec. Cotulla made some comments that implied that the rhdium radio firmware is missing rmnet support | 20:27 |
| hyc | does that sound right? so we know for sure that pppd is the only way to go? | 20:27 |
| Fudge | gday F22 | 20:28 |
| hyc | I compiled with the rmnet driver enabled, but it looks like I need some other drivers as well | 20:28 |
| F22 | hyc: dunno anything about that topic | 20:28 |
| F22 | fudge: hiya | 20:28 |
| hyc | ok | 20:29 |
| hyc | I know that with generic-ril and pppd, and ril_wrapper / pppd, got the same crashes with data enabled | 20:30 |
| hyc | which is why I wanted to see rmnet's behavior | 20:30 |
| hyc | the ril wrapper talks to the modem using /dev/smd1 | 20:32 |
| hyc | on my G1 I only have /dev/smd0 and smd27 | 20:32 |
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| hyc | on my TP2 there's smd0, smd1, smd7, and smd27 | 20:32 |
| hyc | kinda wonder what the other ports are attached to | 20:33 |
| F22 | understandable question | 20:33 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hey arrrghhh, who was working on front panel button LED stuff earlier, and was that raph or rhod? (sorry, don't have time to check the logs just now) | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | wha? | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | raph works fine | 20:40 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I thought u were in that discussion...maybe not | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea but raph button lights work | 20:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, ok. had to be rhod then. Just trying to find out who was asking/working on that | 20:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | seems viruscrazy's got that done too.... maybe | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | are you talking about the lights behind the 4 front keys? | 20:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | that's gotta be like the absolute last thing on the list. | 20:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | the bluetooth working kernel I'm running from his tree has them working | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | those could never turn on again and i'd be just fine. | 20:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | :D | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | seems everyone is working on that | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | god knows why | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 was having issues with them, and put 'em on the back burner. | 20:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah, I remember. I was testing those for hime | 20:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | s/hime/him | 20:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | bah. | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | need a trailing slash | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | and it doesn't work in here anyways. | 20:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I no type 2night | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:43 |
| stinebd | trailing slash is optional | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, in htc-linux it's not. | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | so was that log at least somewhat useful? | 20:43 |
| stinebd | no | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:44 |
| stinebd | well not for me anyway | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 20:44 |
| stinebd | i have to read it while not sleep deprived | 20:44 |
| stinebd | try to figure out what the hell is going on there | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | it's raining donuts | 20:44 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | only thing is I think his kernel broke sleep. led is flashing orange/green. not sure what that's about | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | he may have re-purposed the led though...I don't know | 20:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I really need to try and get him in chat.... | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | good luck | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | let the man code | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:48 |
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| stinebd | woot | 20:53 |
| stinebd | found a hotel with a nice view of tokyo tower for about $80/night | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | not bad | 20:54 |
| stinebd | my only regret is that it's not a capsule | 20:55 |
| stinebd | my lifelong dream is to live in a tube for a week | 20:55 |
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| arrrghhh | a week lol | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, yo how goes it | 20:56 |
| L_miller | good and you? | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | not ready for reailty yet. | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | vaca was too good :P | 20:56 |
| L_miller | lol I bet! | 20:56 |
| L_miller | It | 20:56 |
| L_miller | Soon for me. | 20:56 |
| L_miller | But just around the house... | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | staycation huh | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | i hate that damned term. | 20:57 |
| L_miller | lol yup. | 20:57 |
| L_miller | you on Nand? | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | no | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | waiting for your FRX05 joy | 20:57 |
| L_miller | WHY NOT? | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | oh and has the kernel been updated? | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | testing gb | 20:57 |
| L_miller | I have my kernal. With my FRX05. | 20:58 |
| L_miller | That ACL posted. :) | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | your kernel? | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | sounds dangerous. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:58 |
| L_miller | my tinboot. | 20:58 |
| L_miller | lol. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 20:58 |
| L_miller | It workS! | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | data? | 20:58 |
| L_miller | :-p | 20:58 |
| L_miller | Everything!!! But Camera.. | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | kernel updates not pushed? | 20:59 |
| L_miller | Not yet. | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | wish we were on the same tree. | 20:59 |
| stinebd | don't make me send a gpl warning to you | 20:59 |
| L_miller | yeah I think ACL still have some work to do. | 20:59 |
| stinebd | i'll send him one too then | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:00 |
| L_miller | lol. Dont' worrie. | 21:00 |
| L_miller | Stinebd - Do you have a script for setting permissions? | 21:01 |
| stinebd | no | 21:01 |
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| L_miller | Ok. thought I would ask. ;) | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i don't see the frx05 androidinstall | 21:04 |
| L_miller | http://htcdevs.wirelesstcp.net/files/xdandroid/FRX5/ | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | different folder heh | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | way to confuse me :P | 21:04 |
| L_miller | lol. | 21:04 |
| L_miller | It's not much differnt then the orginal. | 21:04 |
| L_miller | not really at all. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | not much was added to frx05 | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | stuff was removed | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | cam stuff added | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | poop | 21:05 |
| L_miller | I see. | 21:05 |
| stinebd | removed is such a harsh word | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | pillaged? | 21:05 |
| stinebd | i prefer derezzed | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | shit, now i need a usb cable. | 21:06 |
| stinebd | i prefer a hacked phone line | 21:06 |
| stinebd | just for the sheer irony | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, so for gb | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | should the conf be gingerbread.user.conf? | 21:19 |
| stinebd | yes | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem to be getting parsed. | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | for me at least... | 21:20 |
| stinebd | heh well | 21:20 |
| stinebd | not user.conf | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | wha? | 21:20 |
| stinebd | oh wait yeah | 21:20 |
| stinebd | user.conf | 21:20 |
| stinebd | i always get confused by that stupid thing | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | so? | 21:21 |
| stinebd | so? | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | what should it be? | 21:21 |
| stinebd | am i speaking chinese? | 21:22 |
| stinebd | gingerbread.user.conf | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | am I? | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | it isn't getting parsed for me | 21:22 |
| stinebd | ok | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | at least it doesn't seem to be parsed. | 21:22 |
| stinebd | if it worked in froyo it'll work in gingerbread in the same conditions | 21:22 |
| stinebd | since it's just a shell variable that changes | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | i have that *.rec rm command | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | and it's not working, i have .rec files at the root of mah card | 21:23 |
| stinebd | so delete them | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | but guyyyyyyyy | 21:23 |
| stinebd | you're supposed to be the triage guy | 21:24 |
| stinebd | put some shit that outputs to a file or something and see if it actually does it | 21:24 |
| stinebd | i aint running no daycare here son | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm feeling especially lazy | 21:24 |
| stinebd | me too | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | especially since i'm trying NAND again. | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'll look at it later, make it touch some files | 21:24 |
| stinebd | i don't think it does that on nand | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | giggity | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | that was from GB testing | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | on the data thing | 21:25 |
| stinebd | quit talking chinese | 21:25 |
| stinebd | ni hao! | 21:25 |
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| arrrghhh | i can't help it stine | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | chinese is my native tongue | 21:27 |
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| stinebd | hyc: http://www.mediafire.com/?35c2tcomyot8etk | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | dual mode RIL? | 21:39 |
| stinebd | yes | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 21:39 |
| stinebd | no backtalk | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | ghey? | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, so i'm seeing some madness about still needing to symlink pppd | 21:42 |
| arrrghhh | is that needed? | 21:42 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. | 21:43 |
| stinebd | android's pppd is legally classified as mentally challenged | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 21:43 |
| stinebd | along with, of course, android | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | what does that make winmo? | 21:43 |
| stinebd | and much of the bible belt | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 21:44 |
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| arrrghhh | where's my damned gf | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | i'm hungry. | 21:45 |
| stinebd | cannibalism is wrong! | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | but it tastes so right | 21:46 |
| stinebd | unless you feed a chicken kfc | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | makin bacon with macon? | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, so i can just ln -s that while it's running? | 21:46 |
| L_miller | yeha. | 21:46 |
| L_miller | Then you might have to kill the RIL. | 21:47 |
| L_miller | Or reboot. | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | you're inhuman | 21:47 |
| L_miller | lol! | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | airplane mode? | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | could just cycle data too methinks | 21:47 |
| L_miller | you can try that too. | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'll do all of it | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | at the same time | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | instead of Installing...Android | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | it should say Installing... Win98 | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | just to see if anyone notices. | 21:48 |
| L_miller | lol | 21:48 |
| stinebd | absurd | 21:49 |
| stinebd | you have to make it believable | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | installing winmo? | 21:49 |
| stinebd | Windows Me | 21:49 |
| L_miller | Nahh. win2000? | 21:49 |
| L_miller | lol | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | ME was awesome. | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | i ran it for 2 weeks before it blew itself up. | 21:49 |
| stinebd | yeah that's not what my flash drive thought | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | promptly went back to 200 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | er | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | 2000 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | win200 lol | 21:50 |
| stinebd | you know you've hit rock bottom when usb horks your kernel | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | or win98 BSOD from a scanner | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | win | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | DUH WINNING | 21:50 |
| stinebd | please, i'm all sheened out | 21:51 |
| stinebd | the machete thing topped it off | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | shit i missed the machete thing | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | did he have another insane interview? | 21:51 |
| stinebd | sorta | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | batshit doesn't begin to describe his crazy | 21:51 |
| stinebd | if by interview you mean pcp-fueled rooftop tirade | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | yes, that | 21:52 |
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| arrrghhh | odz, and his wacky ipv6 address | 21:53 |
| odz | actually im testing out ipv6 support in tomato | 21:55 |
| stinebd | addressable fruit | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes i wonder why i read the forums. | 21:57 |
| stinebd | i usually just look at the pictures | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:58 |
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, damnit jim. i remount rw, ln -s ppp and it still doesn't work. | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | is it pppd? | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | is that command acl posted wrong...? | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | it is pppd isn't it. fawk. | 22:03 |
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| massstash | same here bro | 22:04 |
| L_miller | check your /etc folder for a ppp already | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, /system/etc right | 22:04 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 22:04 |
| massstash | i got the 3g icon popping up now and can make outgoing calls tho somehow... | 22:04 |
| massstash | should pppd be in /data/ppp | 22:05 |
| massstash | ? | 22:05 |
| massstash | or just /system/bin? | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | outbound calls should alway swork | 22:05 |
| massstash | before i got 3g icon to show, no outgoing calls for me | 22:05 |
| massstash | thought i made headway... blast | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | calls always worked for me. in and out. | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | who needs calls tho | 22:06 |
| L_miller | me too. | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | well fawk | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | i now had a ppp and pppd in /system/etc | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i've only tried airplane mode and cycling data. | 22:07 |
| massstash | kill the ril? | 22:08 |
| L_miller | you should only have ppp pointing to /data/ppp | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, the soft link survives a reboot? | 22:08 |
| L_miller | yeah | 22:08 |
| L_miller | it does for me... :-p | 22:08 |
| odz | hows panel sleeping/waking with FRX05 nand? | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | like bacon | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | sizzling bacon | 22:09 |
| L_miller | lol about the same once you get apps. :) | 22:09 |
| L_miller | But it wakes up everytime! | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | no failed wakes? | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 22:09 |
| L_miller | nope! | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 was giving acl some tips on vsync | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | wonder if they made it into the nand tree. | 22:10 |
| L_miller | not sure. | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | nand seems like kinda a mess right now. | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | few devs seem on board with it too :/ | 22:10 |
| L_miller | very ture! | 22:11 |
| L_miller | true! | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | no 3g icon/ | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | you promises of data on nand tease me L_miller | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | your* | 22:11 |
| L_miller | hmmm... | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | oh! | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | i just wasn't patient. typical. | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | i see a 3g icon | 22:12 |
| L_miller | is your ppp pointing to your data/ppp? | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | let's see if it f-ing works... | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. 3g icon, no data. | 22:12 |
| L_miller | >>> /etc/ppp -> /data/ppp ??? | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | ifconfig doesn't show ppp0 | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | just lo | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | /system/etc/ppp -> /data/ppp | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | also | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | /system/etc/pppd -> /data/pppd | 22:13 |
| L_miller | what about /etc/ppp | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | uhm no | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | i thought /etc was gone... | 22:14 |
| L_miller | nope. | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | i'll link it there now. | 22:14 |
| massstash | k, so arrrghhh is where i am now i think | 22:15 |
| massstash | .... | 22:15 |
| odz | arrrghhh does wifi work? why dont u hop on wifi and forward your ports than let L_miller telnet in and take a look | 22:16 |
| L_miller | lol! | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea no | 22:16 |
| odz | lol | 22:16 |
| L_miller | massstash - does it work for you? | 22:16 |
| massstash | which work bro? | 22:17 |
| massstash | data or wifi? | 22:17 |
| massstash | lol | 22:17 |
| L_miller | data | 22:17 |
| massstash | nah man | 22:17 |
| massstash | thats y im hear now | 22:17 |
| massstash | lol | 22:17 |
| massstash | i managed to get 3g icon and outgoing calls orking for me earlier | 22:17 |
| massstash | no internet | 22:17 |
| L_miller | k | 22:18 |
| massstash | werd, so i'm up for trying to knock this out | 22:18 |
| massstash | in windows right now jb'in friends ipod real quick | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, /etc/ppp and /etc/pppd also now link to /data | 22:18 |
| L_miller | just /etc/ppp | 22:18 |
| massstash | how to do make them link to somewhere guys? | 22:19 |
| L_miller | I don't have /etc/pppd | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, those additional links won't break it tho...? | 22:19 |
| L_miller | yes. | 22:19 |
| L_miller | rm them | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | if you say so | 22:19 |
| L_miller | just not your data/ppp ;) | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | i still have no ppp0 interface | 22:20 |
| massstash | do we know id ip-up funstions right here? | 22:20 |
| massstash | id = if | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | it might work | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather make this shit work permanently | 22:21 |
| massstash | right, like is the ipup not being called by ppp or something? | 22:21 |
| massstash | what allows 3g icon to be shown yet no ip connection sare made? | 22:21 |
| L_miller | arrrrghhh - reboot. or go to /etc/ppp and run sh ip-up | 22:21 |
| massstash | ifconfig got me 198.0.0.1 and 255.0.0.0 | 22:22 |
| massstash | thats not connecting to any network ya kno | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i have rebooted, but ok. | 22:22 |
| L_miller | not since the most recent link. | 22:22 |
| L_miller | the correct one. ;) | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | got a bunch of can't create and error fetching interface commands after running sh ip-up | 22:23 |
| massstash | where's [acl] so he can telnet my pachine again and jap out on this shit? lol | 22:23 |
| L_miller | ok. | 22:23 |
| massstash | yea when i ran ipup i got hte dirs not existing like you posted i think L_miller | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | massstash, jeebus man. "jap out on this shit"? really? lol | 22:23 |
| stinebd | jap out? | 22:23 |
| L_miller | lol | 22:24 |
| massstash | lmao | 22:24 |
| massstash | = perform incredible work | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | uh huh | 22:24 |
| massstash | lol right riiiiight | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | we gotta do some work for ourselves man | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | can't expect acl to just magically fix it all for us. | 22:24 |
| massstash | tousche brutha | 22:24 |
| massstash | i just feel that we're more annoying this way ya kno? | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | although that would be nice | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | zomg no comment. | 22:25 |
| massstash | helps him figure shit out we're ignorant of | 22:25 |
| stinebd | definitely annoying | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, L_miller | 22:25 |
| L_miller | yo? | 22:25 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: BUG | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. | 22:26 |
| massstash | stop reading, get back to GB | 22:26 |
| stinebd | and make it block the gingerbread tracker | 22:26 |
| massstash | google looooves there tracking.... | 22:27 |
| stinebd | which i believe is bug 98 | 22:27 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=98 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Gingerbread (GRX0x) Release Tracker | 22:27 |
| stinebd | boom | 22:27 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh - anything yet? | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, ok. i have ln -s /data/ppp to /system/etc | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | /system/etc/ppp -> /data/ppp | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | and /etc/ppp -> /data/ppp | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | i get the 3g icon | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | but no interface in ifconfig | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | ifconfig ppp0 up doesn't work either... | 22:29 |
| L_miller | ok. hold on just a sec. I need to check something. | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 22:29 |
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| L_miller | arrrghhh - do you have a pppd in your /etc folder? | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | you told me to rm it... | 22:33 |
| L_miller | ok that's good. | 22:34 |
| L_miller | how about your /bin folder | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | don't see it 1 sec | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem to be | 22:35 |
| L_miller | ok. good. ;) | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | ok? | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:35 |
| L_miller | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/134598-nand-boot-testing-03-08-full-nand-frx05-testing-data-not-working-some-38.html#post2065547 | 22:35 |
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| L_miller | I was looking at that post. | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 22:36 |
| L_miller | But I don't have anything in either one of those folders either. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 22:36 |
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| L_miller | humm... Can you give me your logcat -b radio? | 22:37 |
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| arrrghhh | oh i guess so | 22:38 |
| L_miller | lol | 22:38 |
| L_miller | time to reflash myself. | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, v1FETeQc | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | shit. | 22:40 |
| L_miller | lol | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/v1FETeQc | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | i got part of it | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:40 |
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| L_miller | humm. I don't see any errors. | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | just like my life | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | error-free | 22:43 |
| L_miller | lol | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | wait... | 22:43 |
| L_miller | can you send me your logcat too. | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | shit | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | you just want everything | 22:48 |
| L_miller | yup | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | ok, just so long as you know how demanding you are. | 22:48 |
| L_miller | :-d | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/NhKHw9Qd | 22:49 |
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| massstash | get anywhere>? arrrghhh | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | you'll be the first to know massstash | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, do i need to try data again? that logcat may have cycled. | 22:53 |
| massstash | werd | 22:53 |
| L_miller | chown -R 0:2000 /data/ppp | 22:53 |
| L_miller | chmod -R 0755:0755 /data/ppp | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | Oo permissions time | 22:53 |
| massstash | just read hwo to ln -s /data/ppp was wrong..... bust | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, lol why the -R | 22:54 |
| L_miller | recursive | 22:54 |
| L_miller | guess. you don't really need it. | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | is ppp a folder? | 22:54 |
| L_miller | yes | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that's what i thought. | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 22:54 |
| massstash | yea ls /data/ppp bro | 22:56 |
| L_miller | <massstash> what? | 22:57 |
| massstash | undertsnad better that ppp was a folder when i did that haha | 22:57 |
| massstash | but the ln -s shit acl had us do, thats what i did to get 3g icon but no data | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, after that airplane mode on/off? | 22:58 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | k | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | waiting for 3g icon | 22:58 |
| massstash | drummmmm roollllll...... | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing this is too long | 22:59 |
| L_miller | ifconfig/ | 22:59 |
| L_miller | ? | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | lo only | 22:59 |
| L_miller | >>>> /system/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 & | 23:01 |
| L_miller | then ifconfig ppp0 up | 23:02 |
| L_miller | then you should see it. | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:02 |
| L_miller | ok. can you ping? | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol it's gone now :/ | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | network unreachable, no ppp0 interface... | 23:03 |
| L_miller | ok. | 23:03 |
| odz | o.O | 23:03 |
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| arrrghhh | i did see this | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | [1]+ Done /system/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 | 23:04 |
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| L_miller | ok go to /system/bin | 23:04 |
| L_miller | and run ls -al pppd | 23:04 |
| L_miller | what do you see? | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 148832 Jan 28 18:43 ←[1;32mpppd←[0m | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | there we go | 23:06 |
| L_miller | nope looks good. | 23:06 |
| L_miller | what.. | 23:07 |
| L_miller | wait* | 23:07 |
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| L_miller | chown 0:0 /system/bin/pppd | 23:08 |
| L_miller | chmod 04755 /system/bin/pppd | 23:08 |
| L_miller | need to be system rw. | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | should be | 23:09 |
| L_miller | k | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | it would throw an error if not | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | yes? | 23:09 |
| L_miller | yup | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | kk | 23:09 |
| L_miller | then do a airplane mode reset. | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | check | 23:10 |
| odz | why dont u try running /system/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 without the & and see if that even works | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | odz, cuz then i wouldn't be able to do anything else...? | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | same so far L_miller. no 3g icon, only lo in ifconfig. | 23:11 |
| L_miller | ok kill the ril | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | kill rild? | 23:12 |
| L_miller | yup | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | bad pid | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | killall eh | 23:12 |
| L_miller | lol ps w | 23:12 |
| L_miller | find the pid. | 23:12 |
| L_miller | kill xxx | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | k | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | does it restart on its own? | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | it appears to | 23:13 |
| L_miller | it should. | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | well radio came back up | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | i have bars | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | no 3g icon | 23:13 |
| L_miller | ok. good. | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | no ppp0 | 23:13 |
| L_miller | wait.. | 23:13 |
| L_miller | wait... | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:13 |
| L_miller | wait.. | 23:13 |
| * arrrghhh is so very impatient | 23:13 | |
| arrrghhh | alright. futurama while i wait for precious data. | 23:14 |
| L_miller | lol | 23:14 |
| L_miller | ? | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | nothin yet | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | you wanted me to wait | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:15 |
| L_miller | grr... | 23:15 |
| * L_miller is getting impatient now too... | 23:15 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:15 |
| L_miller | nothing/ | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | data works | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | no 3g icon tho | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get how that's even possible. | 23:17 |
| L_miller | wtf? | 23:17 |
| odz | !!!!!!! | 23:17 |
| massstash | woah | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | i do networking for a living | 23:17 |
| massstash | steeerange | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | i forced it up | 23:17 |
| massstash | business | 23:17 |
| L_miller | hummm... just a ping? | 23:18 |
| massstash | but is it replicable for me? :-) | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, all of it | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | browser works | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | signing into google voice now | 23:18 |
| L_miller | cool :) | 23:18 |
| massstash | eeeeewwwwww | 23:18 |
| odz | make a script :P | 23:18 |
| massstash | \lol | 23:18 |
| L_miller | any icon yet? | 23:18 |
| massstash | please | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | no icon | 23:19 |
| L_miller | I'm modding my script now. But it will require a reflash.. | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | and gv let me sign in, but says network error | 23:19 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh can you reboot. | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | i can... | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | whether or not i want to, that's a different story. | 23:19 |
| odz | i guess some apps think u dont have data | 23:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming you want me to reboot and see if it sticks? | 23:19 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 23:20 |
| L_miller | and fix the icon | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | okiefine | 23:20 |
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| massstash | eeeek | 23:21 |
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| arrrghhh | massstash, it's cool. we'll sort it out and have something more usuable soon. | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, no joy. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | i get a 3g icon | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | but no data. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | i could probably force it up again, but that's hardly a solution. | 23:24 |
| L_miller | grr... | 23:24 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 23:25 |
| L_miller | is your link still there? | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | let me see... | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | heh no ppp0 in ifconfig | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | yup, link still there | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | it's 777 | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | is that rigth? | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | *right | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | not pppd, /etc/ppp | 23:27 |
| massstash | soooo close... | 23:28 |
| L_miller | humm... we set it to :chmod -R 0755:0755 /data/ppp | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | let me try that again. | 23:29 |
| L_miller | k | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | lrwxrwxrwx <----- | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's 777 right | 23:31 |
| odz | yep | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'm doing mount -o remount,rw / | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | and /system | 23:32 |
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| massstash | flippin back to ubuntu.... | 23:35 |
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| * L_miller is flashing. :) | 23:37 | |
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| lophat | ... | 23:46 |
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| L_miller | my mtdparts failed. :( | 23:53 |
| L_miller | need to reflash again. | 23:54 |
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