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| stinebd | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/18/latest-android-gingerbread-release-brings-nfc-and-bluetooth-toge/ | 13:06 | 
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| TheDeadCPU | cool. | 13:06 | 
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| manekineko_ | stinebd, you familiar with the GRX bug with gapps where occasionally you can manage to get the emails/pages to load up, but the margins are messed up | 13:11 | 
| manekineko_ | just letting you know in case that's a clue as to what's going on | 13:11 | 
| manekineko_ | it seems like the screen is cut off by 1/3 on each side | 13:12 | 
| manekineko_ | and then after a few seconds it refreshes and kicks you out of viewing it | 13:12 | 
| manekineko_ | seems like the general pattern of this bug is the first email you try and load on loading up the app will load | 13:12 | 
| manekineko_ | further emails will give the white screen failure | 13:12 | 
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| emre305 | i have a problem, my htc topaz is freezing on xdandroid 2.2 what can i do? | 14:43 | 
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, dude. tryin to flash again, but ofc i'm at work and can't seem to get this VM to see the internet. | 15:47 | 
| stinebd | so tired | 15:48 | 
| arrrghhh | +1 | 15:48 | 
| arrrghhh | had to work at 4:30am yesterday. | 15:48 | 
| arrrghhh | 7am today seemed late. | 15:48 | 
| arrrghhh | oh hey stinebd | 15:49 | 
| arrrghhh | did you see that comment on ti wlan and gb? | 15:49 | 
| stinebd | no | 15:49 | 
| arrrghhh | well evidently that issue where you can only turn it on once doesn't exist in gb. | 15:49 | 
| stinebd | wrong, i've seen it in gingerbread too | 15:49 | 
| arrrghhh | aw. | 15:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i can't confirm. | 15:50 | 
| arrrghhh | damn R^7Z | 15:50 | 
| stinebd | it's not consistent but it's there | 15:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i got some schmuck that said tiad's builds were faster on 3g than any of our builds. | 15:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't get that... he claimed he confirmed it with speed tests. | 15:50 | 
| stinebd | good for him | 15:51 | 
| arrrghhh | he was saying the difference was pretty big too. | 15:51 | 
| arrrghhh | wtf could be different in respect to 3g? | 15:51 | 
| stinebd | frankly i'm not interested in pursuing any differences between the two builds | 15:52 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i'm not really either. | 15:53 | 
| stinebd | i've got way too much to deal with on gingerbread to go screwing around with his binary crap | 15:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i just wonder if there is any truth to it, why it would be so. | 15:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i lol every time i pick apart his builds | 15:53 | 
| arrrghhh | they're such clusterfucks. | 15:53 | 
| stinebd | i've seen. i was about to try one of them, downloaded it and mounted the system image, saw the layout and stopped dead in my tracks | 15:54 | 
| stinebd | if he wants to continue to try to maintain them, that's great. but we've got real work to do here. | 15:54 | 
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| arrrghhh | heh | 15:55 | 
| arrrghhh | zing! | 15:55 | 
| stinebd | i'm considering decoupling the userspace libraries from rootfs for gingerbread | 15:55 | 
| stinebd | you know how we have /lib/froyo? i don't want a /lib/gingerbread | 15:56 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:56 | 
| stinebd | that might mean more frequent system releases though | 15:56 | 
| stinebd | thoughts? | 15:56 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | I agree with stinebd | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | well i know on nand they've done away with the rootfs alltogether. | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | altogether? | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | either way. | 15:57 | 
| TheDeadCPU | But I'm Norwegian | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | more frequent system releases seems like a bad thing tho IMO | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | just cuz of the size of them. | 15:57 | 
| stinebd | we don't accept .02 euros here | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | the update utility is nice | 15:57 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Wait, on NAND it's in boot.img iirc | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | er update process | 15:57 | 
| stinebd | that's a different thing | 15:57 | 
| arrrghhh | but not a lot of peoples use it. | 15:57 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Oh yea, I was thinking zImage lol | 15:58 | 
| stinebd | i bet they would if we stopped putting out full systems :P | 15:58 | 
| stinebd | it would be nicer if the updater didn't have to reboot | 15:59 | 
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| stinebd | which it really doesn't. i could hack init.android to just reload /init.rc when it gets a signal or something | 15:59 | 
| stinebd | and kill off zygote | 16:00 | 
| arrrghhh | killall zygote seems to have bad effects on the phone. | 16:00 | 
| arrrghhh | at least i've never had a happy phone after doing that. | 16:00 | 
| stinebd | it's not as much of an issue when the original zygote was only running one service (recovery) | 16:01 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:01 | 
| stinebd | i'd have to hack recovery to not reboot too | 16:04 | 
| stinebd | which involves commenting out line 821 in recovery.c | 16:05 | 
| stinebd | not sure i can handle that | 16:05 | 
| arrrghhh | sounds complicated | 16:07 | 
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| F22 | stinebd: your rhod400 has been shipped. | 16:30 | 
| stinebd | zomg | 16:30 | 
| stinebd | i'm getting a 300 on monday :D | 16:30 | 
| F22 | rofl | 16:31 | 
| stinebd | but that's okay the 400 is more useful probably | 16:31 | 
| stinebd | and exotic | 16:31 | 
| F22 | lol | 16:31 | 
| F22 | expected delivery date is Tues. I insured it for $200. So if they lose it, you can buy yourself another. | 16:31 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:32 | 
| L_miller | arrrghhh - what's up? | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | why did you get a 300 stinebd ? | 16:32 | 
| stinebd | k, let me know shipping costs and your paypal email and i'll reimburse you | 16:32 | 
| stinebd | arrrghhh: my mother preordered an atrix and they shipped it out today | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | L_miller, nada. i was going to try to flash again, but i can't get my ubuntu vm to get out to the internet. | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | stinebd, oic. nice! | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | rhod400 has a 3.5mm jack :D | 16:32 | 
| stinebd | so she'll be giving me her tilt2 | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | schweet | 16:32 | 
| arrrghhh | you'll have a plethora of RHOD's | 16:33 | 
| stinebd | a dualora | 16:33 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:33 | 
| stinebd | word invented. copyrighting. | 16:33 | 
| arrrghhh | alright mr. colbert | 16:33 | 
| L_miller | arrrghhh - Use your NAT (in the VirtualBox settings.) | 16:34 | 
| stinebd | filliam h. muffman | 16:34 | 
| arrrghhh | L_miller, problem is corporate proxy. i can't get it to pipe the traffic out thru our proxy correctly. | 16:34 | 
| arrrghhh | i swear i did this before, but we've since upgraded our proxy servers. | 16:34 | 
| L_miller | Yeah I'm in the same boat but it works for me... | 16:34 | 
| F22 | i'm surprised she'll be getting it on Monday since it's a holiday. i guess whoever is shipping it delivers on president's day. | 16:34 | 
| F22 | otherwise you'd probably get the 400 on Monday too. | 16:35 | 
| arrrghhh | L_miller, do you have to auth to your proxy server? | 16:35 | 
| L_miller | Nope. I just used NAT and it works. | 16:35 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't have to auth to mine, at least i don't see myself authing | 16:35 | 
| arrrghhh | but i was getting 407 auth errors | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | and now i'm getting 404 errors. | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | i got the machine to be able to ping local IPs | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | just can't get out to the internet... | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | it even resolves DNS correclty | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | correctly* | 16:36 | 
| L_miller | lol. did you try somthing else besides NAT? | 16:36 | 
| stinebd | fedex overnight is what i'm told they're shipping the atrix preorders | 16:37 | 
| stinebd | going out today, transit available on saturday and delivery more or less guaranteed on monday | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i tried bridged... | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure what the others do tbh. | 16:37 | 
| stinebd | F22: let me know the shipping cost and your paypal email and i'll reimburse you | 16:38 | 
| F22 | stinebd: shipping was 8.65. Need to look up my paypal account. | 16:38 | 
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, where are you at on the nbh? | 16:39 | 
| L_miller | as in? | 16:40 | 
| arrrghhh | data still a bust? | 16:40 | 
| L_miller | Yup... And GPS. WIFI work. | 16:40 | 
| arrrghhh | gps busted too eh? | 16:41 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 16:41 | 
| L_miller | Well... Didn't give it too much time when i was on wifi. | 16:42 | 
| L_miller | So I guess it could be working... | 16:42 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:43 | 
| arrrghhh | gps takes forever to lock | 16:43 | 
| L_miller | yeah. | 16:43 | 
| stinebd | speaking of gps | 16:44 | 
| stinebd | bzo! | 16:44 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm hoping that we can figure out how winmo is doing its quickgps mania | 16:44 | 
| arrrghhh | i really want that ability in android... | 16:44 | 
| stinebd | well bzo wants to switch to qcom's libloc_api gps implementation | 16:44 | 
| stinebd | so that would probably get us that | 16:44 | 
| arrrghhh | oO? | 16:44 | 
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| bzo | it seems to be stubbed out in the cm impl | 16:45 | 
| bzo | though it does do some time injection which probably helps speedup the fix | 16:45 | 
| stinebd | wow neocore is rocking | 16:46 | 
| stinebd | 32.5 fps | 16:46 | 
| bzo | great if you only want to watch explosions | 16:46 | 
| stinebd | and the moon | 16:46 | 
| stinebd | and random green and red lights | 16:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:46 | 
| arrrghhh | the lack of textures in that app makes me giggle | 16:47 | 
| stinebd | i think i stuck the old libgles in there with the new version check in build.prop | 16:47 | 
| stinebd | so it's looking for a gles1.1 lib and finding the old 1.0 | 16:47 | 
| stinebd | either way, i like high numbers more than i like textures and objects | 16:48 | 
| stinebd | so it's staying like that | 16:48 | 
| bzo | than you too can brag, AWESOME 33FPS | 16:48 | 
| bzo | HIDDEN SPECIAL EXPLOSION MODE | 16:49 | 
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| stinebd | haha | 16:49 | 
| stinebd | ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start to get textures | 16:49 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:50 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lolwat | 16:50 | 
| bzo | sadly then textures will only be avail on raph/diam | 16:50 | 
| bzo | no direction on rhod | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i carved directional buttons on my rhod | 16:50 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:50 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Who cares about the RHOD? :D | 16:51 | 
| arrrghhh | everyone that matters | 16:51 | 
| arrrghhh | THAT'S WHO | 16:51 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:52 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Now why is Verizon following me on Twitter? | 16:52 | 
| stinebd | blocke m | 16:52 | 
| stinebd | em | 16:52 | 
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| arrrghhh | verizon... the company is following you? | 16:52 | 
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| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:54 | 
| TheDeadCPU | YES. | 16:54 | 
| stinebd | we need some new youtube videos | 16:55 | 
| stinebd | get crackin | 16:55 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:55 | 
| arrrghhh | his tp is dead | 16:55 | 
| stinebd | did xdandroid do it? | 16:55 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Nope | 16:55 | 
| stinebd | shame | 16:56 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Battery died, got a new one, and it died. So something must be short circuting. | 16:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Getting a RHOD I think | 16:56 | 
| stinebd | camro's fault | 16:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Which XDAndroid phone should I get? :p | 16:57 | 
| TheDeadCPU | I'm thinking Rhod. | 16:57 | 
| stinebd | blackstone! | 16:57 | 
| stinebd | the forgotten cousin | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | highest mp | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | cam | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | their 3.5mm jack works. | 16:58 | 
| stinebd | and everything else doesn't | 16:58 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:58 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:59 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Wait, doesn't the RHOD 3.5mm jack work? | 16:59 | 
| stinebd | not really | 16:59 | 
| arrrghhh | not at all | 16:59 | 
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:59 | 
| arrrghhh | in android | 16:59 | 
| stinebd | you either force all audio through it or none at all | 16:59 | 
| arrrghhh | yea that causes other issues | 16:59 | 
| TheDeadCPU | So it's in the startup or something? | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | the rear speaker likes to spit out garbled junk when you do that | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | no kernel support | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | extUSB was just enabled recently | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | so that works | 17:00 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Nice | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | acl keeps pulling himself in 15 different directions | 17:00 | 
| TheDeadCPU | I'm getting a RHOD quite cheap | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | eh? | 17:00 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Best Friend got a Desire Z now :p | 17:01 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Wait, untouchab1e still have the RHOD I think.. | 17:01 | 
| arrrghhh | yea he did | 17:01 | 
| TheDeadCPU | He better come on IRC or I'll text him | 17:02 | 
| stinebd | E/Web Console( 1543): Not allowed to load local resource: file:///android_res/raw/styles.css at :0 | 17:06 | 
| stinebd | there's your gapps issue | 17:06 | 
| arrrghhh | FIX IT | 17:06 | 
| arrrghhh | please | 17:06 | 
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| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, you're now arrrghhhs bitch. | 17:11 | 
| arrrghhh | what do you mean now? | 17:11 | 
| TheDeadCPU | <arrrghhh> FIX IT | 17:12 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:12 | 
| arrrghhh | CDMA RHOD's can function as GSM in Android, yes? | 17:17 | 
| arrrghhh | i thought they could... | 17:17 | 
| TheDeadCPU | You'd need a GSM antenna arrrghhh. | 17:18 | 
| arrrghhh | i know | 17:18 | 
| arrrghhh | all RHOD's are 'world phones' | 17:18 | 
| arrrghhh | i should say, all CDMA RHOD's are 'world phones' | 17:18 | 
| arrrghhh | as in they have GSM and CDMA radios. | 17:18 | 
| arrrghhh | SIM slots, etc. | 17:18 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Oh | 17:19 | 
| TheDeadCPU | I didn't think they all did | 17:19 | 
| arrrghhh | all the CDMA ones | 17:19 | 
| arrrghhh | RHOD400/500 | 17:19 | 
| arrrghhh | all 2 of them | 17:19 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Well | 17:19 | 
| stinebd | hmmmmmmmm | 17:27 | 
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| R^7Z | I can't stay for long | 18:13 | 
| R^7Z | in reply to this: arrrghhhi can't confirm.15:50 | 18:13 | 
| R^7Z | I just Turned off wifi | 18:13 | 
| R^7Z | and turned it back on | 18:13 | 
| R^7Z | I'm connected to my wifi | 18:13 | 
| R^7Z | confirmed on my end... | 18:14 | 
| R^7Z | Let me know if you need logs... :P | 18:15 | 
| R^7Z | I'll check later,,, gotta run! | 18:15 | 
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| stinebd | f22! | 18:19 | 
| F22 | ? | 18:19 | 
| stinebd | paypal | 18:19 | 
| TheDeadCPU | wat | 18:19 | 
| F22 | oh yes...i'll lookup the info and pm it to you. | 18:20 | 
| stinebd | thanks | 18:20 | 
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| F22 | stinebd: i can't seem to message you. | 18:38 | 
| stinebd | F22: i got it, thanks | 18:38 | 
| arrrghhh | /ignore F22 | 18:39 | 
| F22 | stinebd: lol. just a "don't bother me" auto reply. | 18:39 | 
| stinebd | money sent | 18:40 | 
| stinebd | i added a small administrative stipend for you too | 18:40 | 
| arrrghhh | i accept money | 18:40 | 
| F22 | lol | 18:40 | 
| F22 | oh wow. | 18:41 | 
| stinebd | arrrghhh: this is what we're looking at https://github.com/ezterry/manifest-gingerbread-DS/issuesearch?state=closed&q=gmail#issue/5 | 18:42 | 
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:42 | 
| stinebd | i'll be cherry picking relevant commits and we'll need to test it heavily | 18:43 | 
| arrrghhh | kk | 18:43 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm here to test, but you'll have my rhod soon :P | 18:43 | 
| F22 | stinebd: you didn't have to, but i won't turn down extra pizza money. :D | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | so cm patches eh | 18:45 | 
| arrrghhh | L_miller, was going to tackle this nand stuff agian. | 18:46 | 
| stinebd | i might just clone ezterry's tree | 18:46 | 
| stinebd | trees* | 18:46 | 
| stinebd | where appropriate | 18:46 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:46 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess that's where tiad is kanging his gb stuff from | 18:47 | 
| L_miller | Cool! Let me know if you need anything... Should be on for a little bit longer. | 18:47 | 
| arrrghhh | do i still need to compile it myself? | 18:48 | 
| L_miller | yeah. But if you have all the files you should be able to just run that script i sent you before. | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | kk | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i have all the hard stuff setup i think | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | i just need to be using the correct script ;) | 18:49 | 
| L_miller | yup. | 18:49 | 
| L_miller | arrrghhh - I couldn't get the correct keyboard mappings working either... Havn't spent much time with that though. | 18:53 | 
| L_miller | BTW GPS works. ;) | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | hell yes | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | did it take a while to lock? | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | and how are the keyboard mappings done? | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | spl? | 18:55 | 
| arrrghhh | cuz you said the script only needs the 'rhod' in there | 18:55 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming rhod400/500 whatever would specify the keymap | 18:55 | 
| L_miller | GPS < 2 minutes... | 18:56 | 
| L_miller | Keybaord is mapped in the install-seg.sh file | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | eh not bad | 18:56 | 
| L_miller | Nope. | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | hopefully we can get agps to work | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | i still want to see about adding that +bsinfo crap to the rIL | 18:56 | 
| arrrghhh | RIL | 18:56 | 
| TheDeadCPU | wat | 18:57 | 
| arrrghhh | CDMA netloc fails | 18:57 | 
| arrrghhh | i'd like it working, would be a nice feature :D | 18:57 | 
| stinebd | netloc is overrated | 18:58 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:58 | 
| arrrghhh | just cuz you can use it | 18:58 | 
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| F22 | he'll soon have a 400 that can't use it as well as a 300 that can. he'll be in the perfect position to look into it more closely. ;) | 18:59 | 
| stinebd | i don't have cdma | 19:00 | 
| L_miller | arrrghh - taking off for a bit. Good luck | 19:00 | 
| arrrghhh | thx | 19:00 | 
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i know. netloc works for GSM doesn't it? | 19:00 | 
| arrrghhh | oh | 19:00 | 
| arrrghhh | nvm missed F22's post somehow. | 19:00 | 
| arrrghhh | what he can look at is 3.5mm jack :D | 19:01 | 
| arrrghhh | that would be schweet | 19:01 | 
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| arrrghhh | although i think it's a kernel issue | 19:01 | 
| arrrghhh | extUSB was AFAIK | 19:01 | 
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| F22 | i recall ACL being worried the fix for 3.5mm jack would break other non-rhod handsets or somesuch. | 19:03 | 
| arrrghhh | dowhatnow | 19:03 | 
| arrrghhh | i gots to have mah 3.5mm jack! :P | 19:04 | 
| stinebd | isn't that what machine_is_rhodium() is for? | 19:05 | 
| F22 | lol, nice retort stinebd. pity i didn't use it at the time. | 19:06 | 
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| arrrghhh | oh how i love and hate this laptop. | 19:09 | 
| arrrghhh | or is that love to hate... | 19:13 | 
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| TheDeadCPU | I'm cold. HOLD ME | 19:58 | 
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| stinebd | ok | 20:58 | 
| stinebd | so that crap broke webkit entirely | 20:58 | 
| stinebd | and ezterry's forum thread suggests it's actually the toolchain that's the problem, not any of that stuff | 20:58 | 
| stinebd | so....... | 20:58 | 
| stinebd | not really sure how that stuff managed to break webkit | 21:00 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:00 | 
| stinebd | it's really hard to follow people who don't have strong development experience | 21:01 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:02 | 
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, ping | 21:08 | 
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| besho | people please help, how can I calibrate the screen | 23:23 | 
| arrrghhh | delete ts-calibration | 23:24 | 
| besho | yes I did so, but I don't know where to touch when it asks for calibration | 23:26 | 
| besho | It gives me the usual linux boot screen without any sign where to touch | 23:27 | 
| arrrghhh | what kernel are you on | 23:28 | 
| arrrghhh | what phone do you have | 23:28 | 
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq#How_do_I_fix_a_non-functioning_or_miscalibrated_touchscreen.3F | 23:29 | 
| besho | i have RHOD210 and using FRX04 12.2.2011 | 23:30 | 
| besho | WoW, thanks it worked after many restarts, now the boxes appeared and I could calibrate it, thanks so much | 23:33 | 
| arrrghhh | np | 23:39 | 
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