Monday, 2011-02-14

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xdandroidNew kernel available (20110214_073846) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110214_073846-package.tar.bz201:42
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F22not surprising that the link to the new kernel is broken02:12
F22it fails to compile02:13
MassStashwhys that not surprising?02:28
MassStashdef jacked tho ha02:30
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MassStashwonder how long it will take to get fixed02:53
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mightyhi there12:12
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mightyhello?12:13
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Catapulthello12:54
Catapultdoes anybody know what i can do if my ledlight doesnt go green but stays red all the time (indication of battery drainage) on frx04?12:55
emwecheck if you have gps location enabled12:58
emweit's know to hinder sleep currently12:58
Catapultthat is the setting "use gps satelites" in setting, right?13:04
emweyes13:05
Catapultthanks for the quick answer mate!!13:06
emwenp13:08
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20110214_200559) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110214_200559-package.tar.bz214:12
lodtankwhere do i find a changelog of kernel/rootfs?14:27
emwelodtank: rootfs: http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/commits/master kernel: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commits14:29
lodtankemwe: thx alot:)14:31
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MassStashanyone help me with this: warning: #warning syscall fadvise64 not implemented14:52
emwearrrghhh: sleekx was on #htc-linux earlier. (rhod100) he asked for stuff to test. directed him to you. he left his mail addy in the logs. perhaps you can get sth to him if you like.14:53
arrrghhhlol14:53
arrrghhhok14:53
arrrghhhi just told some 100 user (not sure who at this point) that we don't have any rhod100 testers on IRC...14:53
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arrrghhhF22, dude...14:54
F22hmmm?14:54
arrrghhhno offense14:55
arrrghhhyou're doin great work14:55
arrrghhhbut why are you still building kernels?  lol14:55
F22cuz the autobuild one from last night was just a broken link. and after looking into it, i couldn't not post the fixed one. :P14:57
eikhey arrghhhh, that rhod100 user was me lol. Want a dmesg? :P14:58
arrrghhhbut14:58
arrrghhhthere's a fixed one on the autobuild now...14:58
arrrghhheik, fer what?14:58
eikphone not waking up on call, just led going from green blinking to orange14:59
eikand you were right AUO14:59
arrrghhhF22, there is a fixed 1258 on the autobuild.14:59
arrrghhheik, uhm... every single call?15:00
arrrghhhdeleted data.img?15:00
arrrghhhfrx04?15:00
arrrghhhnewest rootfs?15:00
eikfirst call out goes fine15:00
eikyes, yes, yes15:00
arrrghhhwhat rootfs are you on15:00
arrrghhhthere's also a spankin' new kernel to try15:01
F22arrrghhh: yeah, yeah, i see how it is. once you don't need someone any more, there's the door... :P15:01
arrrghhhlmao15:01
eikusing the rootfs f22 made on 10/215:01
arrrghhhdon't use that garbage15:02
arrrghhh:P15:02
arrrghhheik, i'm honestly not sure as my phone wakes no problem for calls.15:02
arrrghhhtry this.  put the phone on a charger so it's "always awake"15:02
arrrghhhthen try to call the phone, see if it's any different.15:02
eikthen it "wakes"15:02
arrrghhhi also want you to try the new 1258 kernel.15:02
arrrghhhyes15:02
arrrghhhthat's the point15:02
eikok, will try15:02
arrrghhhit's called troubleshooting, i need to narrow down the problem ;)15:03
* F22 shoots arrrghhh. trouble over. :P15:03
arrrghhhF22, not to discount anything you're doing, it just seems superfluous at this point.15:03
arrrghhhheh15:03
eikI know, did a lot of it myself already...15:03
arrrghhheik, ?15:03
arrrghhhF22, i mainly want to get people used to the autobuild again.  between new users and users getting used to you doing it, i'd rather people just use the damned autobuild :P15:03
arrrghhhhrm.15:04
eikmean I tried a lot, went back old kernels, versions, on charger etc15:04
arrrghhhi'm thinking xchat for windows isn't such a good deal.15:04
arrrghhheik, and they all exhibit the same behavior?15:05
arrrghhhdid you find any combination that didn't exhibit this behavior?15:05
eiksince FRX03 it seems15:05
eik(at least the ones I could find)15:05
arrrghhhso it works on frx03...?15:05
eiklast working one I could find was the Blazn of Sept15:05
eiknope frx03 it doesn't work15:06
arrrghhhfrx02?15:06
arrrghhhblazn doesn't help much unfortunately.15:06
eikcouldn't find frx02 full package... and wasn' really sure which files would match which... in the end I am just a user...15:07
arrrghhhdude15:08
arrrghhhwe're all users15:08
arrrghhh:P15:08
arrrghhhplus, what i'd be really curious15:08
arrrghhhis with an old system image15:08
arrrghhhbut a new kernel/rootfs15:08
arrrghhhdoes the issue persist15:08
eikok, can try that as well... will first do the new kernel :)15:11
eiknew kernel still the same problem. After boot, dial out: success. Incoming call: success. Let phone sleep. Incoming call now only makes led go orange. Not possible to dial out anymore as well15:19
arrrghhhlolwut15:21
arrrghhhi missed that piece15:21
arrrghhhyou can't make a call either?15:21
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Eriksonhad this problem, too15:25
Eriksonafter changing pm sleep mode to 1 it's gone away15:25
arrrghhhOo15:26
F22arrrghhh: that was always the plan anyway.  i just wanted to make sure that there are no teething issues with glemsom's new set up before stopping.15:26
arrrghhheik, what sleep_mode are you set to15:26
arrrghhhi guess i assumed 1.15:26
F22arrrghhh: Once I get out of the habit, i'm not going to be as inclined to step in again if there's a problem.  I expect my thread will get unsticky'd and die after i stop maintaining it, and that's a pity too, because i think that the interactive discussions in that thread have been more informative regarding bugs than the vague reports attached to the kernels on glemsom's site. i suppose kernel bug discussions will shift back to the individ15:26
arrrghhhholy novel15:26
arrrghhhdude15:26
arrrghhhif you want to keep doing it15:26
arrrghhhby all means.15:26
arrrghhhi say keep the thread going15:26
arrrghhhpost that there is a new kernel15:26
arrrghhhjust reference the autobuild for the download15:27
arrrghhhbecause one thing i do love about your thread is just that15:27
arrrghhha) the discussion15:27
arrrghhhand b) easily see what's been changed (although i can do that on glemsom's site as well :P)15:27
arrrghhhimma try another version of xchat, i'll brb.15:27
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F22(b) will definitely end once i stop posting kernels since (b) is the most work of all.15:28
crispee:O15:30
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crispeewb15:30
arrrghhhthx15:30
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crispeeF22 I like reading the thread... I actually go to that thread before glemsom's site15:33
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eikarrrghhh, no sleep mode in startup.txt. will try pm.sleep_mode=115:35
arrrghhhF22, agreed.  so keep the thread updated, just don't feel obligated to compile and post the kernels.  if anything, link to the autobuild - or if you're feeling nice make direct links to the kernels themselves.15:35
arrrghhheik, eek!15:35
arrrghhh:P15:35
arrrghhheik, i think the default is 0.  so that might explain your issues... d'oh.15:35
eikI'll give it a go then15:35
arrrghhhsounds good.15:36
F22the changelog on glemsom's site is often inaccurate since the people posting sometimes don't have a clue. The one on the git is much better, if a bit more obtuse for beginners to understand and match to glemsom's kernel naming scheme.15:36
MassStashwhat do i have to add to remove a dir my build script that i'm not thinking of...15:36
arrrghhhso many variables.  thanks Erikson for bringing that up ;)15:36
crispeearrrghhh: do you know if the shifted screen on the RAPH800 has enough info? like the logcat and dmesg someone posted...15:36
MassStashwhen just rm the dir, say can't because it's a dir15:36
crispeerm -rf dirname15:37
arrrghhhcrispee, probably not.  not sure any dev has really dove into it.15:37
arrrghhhthere's some new clocks15:37
arrrghhhin the new kernel15:37
arrrghhhdo you have a raph800?15:37
crispeeyes15:37
arrrghhhMassStash, rm -r as was stated previously.15:37
arrrghhh-f forces.15:37
arrrghhhcrispee, give the newest kernel a spin, and if it still happens pull a logcat and dmesg and post it to the bug please.15:37
Eriksonarrrghhh, no problem :)15:37
MassStashdah! thats it thanks15:38
arrrghhhF22, that's cool.  so yea... my vote would be to keep that thread going, just no need to compile the kernels yourself any more!15:38
arrrghhhMassStash, first time with linux?  heh.15:38
crispeehow do you get the dmesg? do you just open up a dev term and do a dmesg > filename?15:38
MassStashnah i'm hi15:38
crispeeor does it automatically do it?15:39
arrrghhhMassStash, no excuse.15:39
arrrghhh:P15:39
arrrghhhcrispee, automatically... what?15:39
arrrghhheasiest way for me is with adb15:39
crispeehaha15:39
Eriksonthink its bad that the startup configs doesn't have it set to 1 standardly15:39
MassStashlol right right15:39
arrrghhhErikson, mine do ;)15:39
arrrghhhcrispee, but your command will work, it'll just dump the dmesg to your SD card or wherever you direct it - but it'll be on the phone.15:40
crispeeok thats fine15:40
Eriksonmine now, too^^15:40
arrrghhhif you do adb shell dmesg > ~/Desktop/dmesg.txt it'll put it straight to your desktop.15:40
F22compiling the kernels is automatically done. i'm not going to stop running my own kernels. lol. i just will stop posting them.15:40
arrrghhhErikson, i threw up a few [BUILD] threads15:40
arrrghhhthey all have cleaned/groomed startup.txt's.15:40
arrrghhhF22, that's fine, whatever you gotta do man.15:41
Eriksonalso for "old" FRX04?15:41
arrrghhhnot sure why you would still want to compile your own... freakin masochist.15:42
arrrghhhErikson, i made two threads in each section.  one for frx04 and one for gingerbrea.15:42
arrrghhher.  gingerbread15:42
F22crispee: glad you've enjoyed my thread. :)15:42
crispeemmm gingerbread15:42
Eriksonarrrghhh, ok hadn't see it :)15:42
arrrghhhnp15:42
MassStashprops on the threads argh btw, nicely organized and all + good see that kinda build threads actually in tps thread15:42
crispeeF22: yeah man good read15:42
MassStashtp2*15:42
crispeeanyone use the galaxy tablet yet?15:43
kwoodyusaarrrghhh i talked to you the other day about SOD issue and we thought it might be the SD card.  Thought I would pass along some info.  It was not the SD card.  I have a micro cell here at the office and that was causing the cell signal to connect and drop every second, after 30 seconds of that the phone would lock up.  After rebooting the microcell and removing my number from the list.  all is working fine15:44
MassStashand did i miss it, or should take the ignoring as my answer bout: the not implementing stuff?15:44
arrrghhhkwoodyusa, interesting.  i think there's threads on people having issues with microcells15:45
arrrghhhfem-to-cells15:45
arrrghhhwhatever the carrier calls them15:45
arrrghhhsprint is called airave or something.15:45
arrrghhhMassStash, not implementing what stuff?15:45
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MassStash<stdin>:1097:2: warning: #warning syscall fadvise64 not implemented15:46
MassStash<stdin>:1265:2: warning: #warning syscall migrate_pages not implemented15:46
MassStash<stdin>:1321:2: warning: #warning syscall pselect6 not implemented15:46
MassStash<stdin>:1325:2: warning: #warning syscall ppoll not implemented15:46
MassStash<stdin>:1365:2: warning: #warning syscall epoll_pwait not implemented15:46
arrrghhhrandom15:46
arrrghhhi know you're high, but context would be nice too dude.15:46
crispeelol15:46
MassStashCleaning up the Kitchen...15:47
MassStashRemoving old RHODIMG.NBH and modules15:47
MassStashmake: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.15:47
MassStashDefconfig compileing, and cooking commenceing...15:47
MassStash#15:47
MassStash# configuration written to .config15:47
MassStash#15:47
MassStashscripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig15:47
arrrghhhMassStash, woah stop15:47
MassStash  CHK     include/linux/version.h15:47
arrrghhhplease15:47
arrrghhhstop15:47
MassStashmake[1]: `include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.15:47
MassStash  CHK     include/linux/utsrelease.h15:47
MassStash  CALL    scripts/checksyscalls.sh15:47
MassStash<stdin>:1097:2: warning: #warning syscall fadvise64 not implemented15:47
arrrghhhyou're talking about NAND, which isn't ready for general consumption15:47
MassStash<stdin>:1265:2: warning: #warning syscall migrate_pages not implemented15:47
arrrghhharen't you15:47
MassStash<stdin>:1321:2: warning: #warning syscall pselect6 not implemented15:47
arrrghhhdamnit15:47
arrrghhhstop15:47
MassStash<stdin>:1325:2: warning: #warning syscall ppoll not implemented15:47
MassStash<stdin>:1365:2: warning: #warning syscall epoll_pwait not implemented15:47
* arrrghhh stabs MassStash 15:47
MassStashbuilding kernel for haret15:47
MassStashnah15:47
arrrghhhbuilding what kernel?15:47
MassStashsorry bro15:47
MassStashjust trying to build my own kernel or htc-linux15:48
arrrghhh...for?15:48
arrrghhhare you pulling the git repo and making changes?15:48
MassStashpractice?15:48
arrrghhhwell if you're not making changes15:48
arrrghhhthere's no reason to compile your own kernel.15:48
arrrghhhF22 is just mildly insane.15:48
MassStashmaking my own massbuild.sh15:48
arrrghhh...for?15:49
crispeeto use up his idle CPU cycles15:49
MassStashhaha15:49
arrrghhhlol15:49
arrrghhhSETI@HOME15:49
arrrghhhproblem solved15:49
crispeethought they took seti down15:49
arrrghhhOo?15:49
arrrghhhi haven't touched it in years.15:49
crispeei used to run it years ago15:49
arrrghhhi'm sure there's still a TON of @HOME projects tho.15:50
arrrghhhthere was a while ago.  SETI was just the "most popular" one.15:50
crispeebut then got some email about the project being closed15:50
arrrghhhhuh15:50
arrrghhhdunno.15:50
crispeemeh whatever, yes I'm sure there are tons of @home projects15:50
arrrghhhlol15:50
MassStashhow about i'm trying to work this haret jazz so i can't mess with nand like how i change my keymaps in msm-gpio-keys.c or something?15:50
arrrghhhoh apathy15:50
arrrghhhMassStash, i don't get what you're trying to _do_15:51
MassStashmore easily than learning basic stupid crap with the nand15:51
arrrghhhlol15:51
MassStashlol15:51
MassStashright, so just trying to learn so i'm not so braindead in here15:51
eikarrrghhh, erikson, you guys are great; first results with sleep=1 look very promising15:51
arrrghhhthat's all Erikson :P15:52
arrrghhhMassStash, you can be braindead, we don't mind.  so long as you're quietly braindead :P15:52
MassStashwhich is crazy because i thgouth we've beat it up n down bout sleep=1 is the new standard...15:52
arrrghhhyea well, not everyone reads the forums15:52
arrrghhhor searches in the forums15:52
arrrghhhor even thinks to tweak any of this stuff15:52
arrrghhhwhich is insane to me, that's the whole point of running this experimental stuff15:53
Eriksoneik, no problem :)15:53
arrrghhhbut i think some people assume it's not experimental...15:53
eikthere were even people suggesting 1,2 etc. Thought I tried them all by now...15:53
arrrghhhyea...15:53
arrrghhhtiad8 was recommending 0,1,2,3,4 at some point15:53
eiklol15:53
arrrghhhhilarious, but not effective.15:53
MassStashright which is why im trying to do this stuff so i can tweak bro15:53
arrrghhhMassStash, i guess i don't know how to help you.  use pastebin if you're pasting something that's more than one line15:54
arrrghhhand ask your question, clearly and consisely.  i still don't really know what you're doing.15:54
arrrghhhcompiling a kernel, is all i've gleaned.15:54
crispeemake -j4 kernel@home15:55
crispee:P15:55
MassStashyea man, trying to compile kernel, after defconfig compileing, i get the not implemented were used to be implemented.15:55
arrrghhhMassStash, did you pull git and have you made any changes?15:55
MassStashthus resulting in no compileing really n skipping to modules and stuff15:55
MassStashnah this was just trying to do a fresh control ya kno. fresh pull stock comp15:56
MassStashstock compile*15:56
crispeebut you only posted warnings15:56
crispeethere was no stop error15:57
arrrghhhwarnings can be ignored.15:57
crispee:P15:57
arrrghhh(he might not know that crispee :P)15:57
MassStashyeaaaaa fully aware of ignore warnings and stuff15:58
crispeei'm going to watch some paint dry15:58
MassStashk, i guess i'm assuming that the compile process is not completely going right becuase its a fragment of the time it has taken to compile in the past....15:59
MassStashlike 5mins to 115:59
MassStashnot working right it seems then...15:59
arrrghhh...16:00
MassStashaight den16:00
crispeedo you have a resulting kernel?16:00
MassStashyeap16:00
crispeemaybe some modules16:01
crispeesweet16:01
crispeeyour computer got 5 times faster16:01
crispee:)16:01
MassStashyea yea, just wondering if thats all good then i guess16:01
MassStashlmao bulllshit16:01
crispee:)16:01
arrrghhhheh16:01
MassStashso er, the test is to throw it on the phone n see what happens i suppose16:02
arrrghhhthat would be a good test.16:03
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crispeecan we bet on this? 2 to 1 odds on it not booting16:03
crispee10 to 1 that his cell explodes16:04
crispee:P16:04
crispeei'm out for now p's16:04
MassStashpeace16:05
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arrrghhhwell new kernel is great for me16:18
arrrghhhbut so was the old test kernel, so i guess that's no surprise...16:18
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r^7zHeeeeey yooouuuuz guuyzzz!16:27
r^7zHiyya mmuca < that was my captcha for today...16:28
r^7zgotta luv that!16:28
r^7zoh yea... now I remember what I came on here to say!16:28
r^7zI vote to commit F22 to a wiki! :p Who else thinks this and agrees?16:28
arrrghhhwhat device do you have r^7z16:45
arrrghhhcrispee, how is the new kernel?16:47
arrrghhhi'd like to know if that issue with the misaligned screen is still present.16:47
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r^7zRAPH110, sorry was distracted by the clicking sound my laptop was making... :P16:48
arrrghhhno use to me :P16:48
arrrghhhi need a CDMA RAPH/DIAM16:49
r^7zwell obviously16:49
r^7z:D16:49
arrrghhhto test the new kernel.16:49
r^7zyeah, couldn't help right now no ways16:49
r^7zso :P :P :p16:49
r^7zlol16:49
arrrghhhyou're really useless!  :P16:49
r^7zYay!16:50
r^7zI would like to say "thank you" to all the good people of the interweb!16:50
r^7z:)16:50
arrrghhhheh16:50
r^7zmoto Atrix ftw! :O16:51
r^7zsorry... waaaaay too much java...16:52
r^7zneed to swtich it to decaf... or at least 1/2-caf16:52
r^7z:D16:52
arrrghhhdamn guy.  just damn.16:53
* arrrghhh stabs crispee 16:54
r^7z:O you bastards! you killed crispee16:54
arrrghhhmeeting time16:57
arrrghhhcrispee, i'll bug you again in 30 :P16:57
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r^7zNeed to find myself a new avatar...17:04
* r^7z looks for a new avatar17:04
r^7zAiet, I'm out!17:08
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stinebdbunch of nutjobs whining about hardware 3d17:24
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arrrghhhhw3d on gb?17:40
arrrghhhi haven't seen any nutjobs whining about that heh17:40
stinebdsweet jesus17:41
stinebdholy grail found17:41
arrrghhheh?17:41
stinebdspam blacklist extension for mediawiki17:41
arrrghhhnice17:41
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manekinekoarrrghhh you around?17:47
arrrghhhmentally or physically17:48
manekinekometaphysically17:48
arrrghhhoOoOo17:48
arrrghhhi'd say no.17:48
arrrghhh:P  what's up17:48
manekinekoheh what's the white screen you were mentioning on the Gingerbread build17:48
manekinekorunning into a bug and what to see if it's your known one17:48
arrrghhhon gapps17:49
arrrghhhsometimes the screen would just go white17:49
arrrghhhi think17:49
arrrghhhi dunno i'm back on froyo :P17:49
arrrghhhwhat's your issue?17:49
manekinekook, I'm seeing an issue with a number of the gapps, notably Mail and Reader17:49
manekinekowhere I'm not able to click into a message or story17:49
manekinekowhen I do so, it sits around for a second or two on a blank screen17:50
manekinekothen takes me back to the list17:50
arrrghhhyup17:50
manekinekothen there's a few complaints in the dmesg I think17:50
arrrghhhthat's the problem.17:50
arrrghhhi would click on a message in gmail17:50
arrrghhhit would poop17:50
arrrghhhthen go back to the main gmail screen.17:50
manekinekoyeah ok, so same issue17:50
stinebdspambl implemented. boom.17:51
manekinekoI assume stinebd has all the logs or whatever he needs for that17:51
arrrghhheh i haven't bugged the man too much on gb bugs.17:51
stinebdprobably not gonna get any logs out of google apps17:51
arrrghhhi figure he knows they're there, and will ask me for crap if he needs it :P17:51
manekinekooaky cool17:52
stinebdarrrghhh: wait a minute, aren't you the tester?17:52
manekinekolol17:52
arrrghhh..17:52
* arrrghhh runs17:52
arrrghhhi tested it17:52
arrrghhhthen posted it17:52
manekinekoimpressive work on Gingerbread stinebd17:52
arrrghhhnow i wait for new things to test :D17:52
manekineko2D framerates are really impressively improved17:52
manekinekomaybe 50% to 100% better17:52
arrrghhhheh17:53
stinebdroughly 27.3%17:53
arrrghhhnot sure that's going to be like that forever manekineko17:53
arrrghhhconsidering 3d doesn't seem to be implemented at all.17:53
stinebd3d has nothing to do with it17:53
arrrghhhhrm17:53
stinebdand it's probably just because i have the wrong library in there17:53
arrrghhhwhat's up with the missing textures then?17:53
arrrghhhah17:53
arrrghhhthat would make sense.17:53
stinebdbootanim works?17:53
arrrghhhindeed17:53
stinebdthen it's fine17:53
arrrghhhk17:54
stinebdall we need is those little guys flying around17:54
arrrghhhlibs it is then17:54
arrrghhhheh17:54
arrrghhhneocore scores are AMAZING17:54
arrrghhhi'm surprised tiad8 didn't push those17:54
arrrghhh30FPS IN NEOCORE GINGERBREAD FLIES17:54
stinebdheh17:54
manekinekodoes he have 3D working in his gingerbread? he does have a few things like GPS working right17:54
manekinekowonder where he got this one from17:55
stinebdunless he's using gpsshim somehow, i don't see how he could possibly have it working17:55
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arrrghhhezterry's gb build17:56
arrrghhhi assume he just kanged it from ezterry17:56
arrrghhhbut at least he's telling us where he kangs things17:56
stinebdwhich uses gpsshim17:56
stinebdfrankly i'd be surprised if that works17:56
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manekinekohey arrrghhh, any reason you don't set north.am.dialing in your package startup.txt's?17:57
manekinekoit makes Google Voice work, and doesn't seem to have any down sides17:58
rpierce99Word to the wise: do not backup your entire phone after accidentally setting an incorrect lock pin, and then restore it 4 times, each time not noticing that it was the restore that locked you out of your phone17:59
rpierce99manekineko: works great unless you aren't in North America :)18:00
manekinekoreally? what's it do outside of north america?18:00
rpierce99I think it kills the + before the country code, not really sure18:01
manekinekoso people outside North America can't use Google Voice?18:01
manekinekowow tiad8 is going to merge the 1253 kernel and the camera kernel but require them not to be distributed18:02
manekinekowhat's the purpose of the folders distributed in builds under AndroidApps, i.e. Games, Media and Other?18:05
manekinekoare they just there to distribute a few apps with the build that people might find useful?18:05
stinebd[18:02:38] <manekineko> wow tiad8 is going to merge the 1253 kernel and the camera kernel but require them not to be distributed18:08
stinebdintrigued. elaborate?18:08
manekinekohttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/139363-froyo-x-red-improved-3d-performance-gingerbread-camera-2011-02-13-full-package-267.html#post205600218:09
stinebdbadass stinebd time18:11
lodtankthe cam support is too experimental to be distributed?18:11
stinebdthat's not really the issue18:12
rpierce99stinebd: FYI there is an identical post on xda18:12
stinebdeven better18:12
stinebdi got the mods on my side there18:12
arrrghhhmanekineko, yea he's not going to be able to do that.18:13
arrrghhheven if he wanted to...18:13
lodtankhm?18:13
arrrghhhand i don't include the north_am_dialing thing because it does break people that don't use GV18:13
lodtankcan someone explain me (xdandroid newbie) the issue with the cam?:)18:14
arrrghhhsorry, had to run a phone downstairs.18:14
manekinekooh really? I can make calls out without using GV as well, but I am in North America18:14
arrrghhhit's not implemented yet lodtank18:14
arrrghhhmanekineko, exactly, you're in north america :P18:14
arrrghhhi'm not breaking everyone else to benefit a few people who use gv, and should know they need to enable that by now.18:14
stinebdlaw laid down. bam.18:14
arrrghhhi guess i should put that in my post.18:14
F22tiad asked me in an email a few days ago if it was possible to combine the two kernels. i told that it was possible, but also said i wouldn't do it, and gave him a long of reasons why it wasn't a good idea.18:14
arrrghhhlol18:14
lodtankbut there is a kernel with support for it?18:14
arrrghhhF22, you should've just said it was impossible.18:15
arrrghhhlodtank, yes it's in testing right now.18:15
lodtankah ok18:15
arrrghhhneed to iron out a LOT of kinks before it can get committed.18:15
lodtankok, thx:)18:15
arrrghhhnp18:15
F22lol, yeah, unfortunately i don't like lying. :P18:15
stinebdincidentally, i have enough kinks to be committed right now18:15
arrrghhhheh18:15
arrrghhhto tiad8, not a problem for me.18:15
arrrghhhlol18:16
manekinekoarrrghhh, not to hound you, but do those folders under AndroidApps do anything? I never really knew what to make of those and was curious18:16
arrrghhhdrop in apks18:16
stinebdthe directories are for organization only18:16
arrrghhhthey install automatically18:16
stinebdthe apps have to be moved into AndroidApps/18:16
arrrghhhbut yea beyond that they're just for organization.18:17
manekinekoah so they are just to distribute a few apps with the builds that people might find useful18:17
arrrghhhindeed18:17
arrrghhhwithout forcing everyone to use them, a la tiad8.18:17
manekinekothe fact that there are apps in there is never really advertised18:17
arrrghhhmeh18:17
stinebdexcept by the directory name AndroidApps18:17
arrrghhhlol18:17
arrrghhhstinebd, people aren't that smart.18:17
manekinekoya, but that directory is functional18:17
arrrghhhit is18:17
manekinekoI always wondered why there were more directories under it18:17
arrrghhhit's in the FAQ that no body reads.18:17
arrrghhhc'mon man.18:18
manekinekofilled with apps that don't install automatically18:18
stinebdthere's a faq?18:18
manekinekoheh is it?18:18
arrrghhhlol18:18
manekinekoyeah, I haven't looked at the official FAQ in a long time18:18
manekinekoit's pretty outdated18:18
lodtankthe bundles provided by you are the "stable" releases?18:18
stinebdarrrghhh: put the faq on the wiki and link to there18:18
F22reef hasn't been keeping it updated.18:18
stinebdso people can update it18:18
F22it really should be on the wiki.18:18
F22i'd help update it too.18:19
manekinekoyeah, I'd pitch in on that18:19
arrrghhhstinebd, it's kinda outdated.18:19
stinebdgreat18:19
arrrghhhand i can't modify it.18:19
stinebdyou guys can get started now then18:19
arrrghhhheh18:19
F22lol18:19
arrrghhhlet's put it on the wiki!18:19
stinebdarrrghhh: we have all new threads that you own. and you can modify the wiki.18:19
arrrghhhw00t18:19
stinebdget cracking18:19
arrrghhhyou've got a point.18:19
stinebdjust don't link to viagra sites, you might be blocked18:19
F22lol18:20
arrrghhhnoted.18:20
arrrghhhwhat about penis enlargement?18:20
F22rofl18:20
arrrghhhi get a lot of emails about that, maybe i should look into it.18:20
lodtankarrrghhh: give it a try;)18:20
stinebdoh man there was this awesome spam last week or so18:20
stinebdlet me find it18:20
arrrghhhlol18:20
stinebdhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/I_just_saved_a_bunch_of_money_on_my_car_insurance_by_switching_to_Suck_A_Cock_4679218:20
stinebdhahaha18:20
arrrghhhLMAO18:21
stinebdit really killed me to delete that gem18:21
arrrghhhomg that's awesome.18:21
manekinekohaha18:21
F22lol, is there a history for that "page", or did it get hard deleted?18:22
stinebdit's still there18:22
arrrghhhstinebd, do we have an FAQ on the wiki...?18:23
stinebdmaybe deleted revisions is only for sysops, i forget how that works18:23
arrrghhhdoesn't seem like it.18:23
stinebdarrrghhh: nope18:23
F22i see the history tab for the main page, but not for that one. curious.18:24
arrrghhhk.  i might be a little retarded, but how do i create a new page?18:24
stinebdtype it in the search box18:25
stinebdand if it doesn't exist it'll tell you to create it18:25
arrrghhhlmao18:25
arrrghhhwin18:25
lodtankor directly open a link to it http://wiki.com/wiki/newpagestuff18:25
arrrghhh...18:25
arrrghhhlodtank, uhm.  no.18:25
arrrghhhman i suck at wiki's.18:26
lodtankdoesn't work in your wiki?18:26
arrrghhhF22, you're going to clean up my mess right?18:26
F22lol, that's one way to discourage new pages except by those with a clue. most wiki's have a create page link.18:26
stinebdheh18:26
* arrrghhh has no clue18:26
F22arrrghhh: as i have a kung fu class to teach, i will have to look at whatever you put together when i get back later.18:27
stinebdwtf18:27
arrrghhhno joke?18:27
lodtankhm.. even mediawikis help says "just type in that link";)18:27
stinebdyou must teach me18:27
lodtank"and a edit box should appear":)18:27
arrrghhhlmao18:27
arrrghhh'he knows kung fu'18:27
F22lol18:28
stinebdF22: where are you? i'm driving over now. don't start class until i get there.18:28
stinebdi gotta learn how to kick ass18:28
F22rofl18:28
arrrghhhhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq18:29
arrrghhhdone18:29
stinebdgreat...18:29
arrrghhhlol18:29
arrrghhhthat's the only question that people ask, right?18:30
manekinekois this going to be setup for public editing?18:30
stinebdactually that's quite literally the only question i've never seen anyone ask18:30
arrrghhhlmao18:30
arrrghhhmanekineko, should be18:30
F22given the number of hours each i spend in a chair, it's good being able to get a bit of exercise in, and i enjoy kicking a--er i mean teaching. ;)18:30
arrrghhhyou need to login tho18:30
arrrghhhso i guess not 'public'18:30
stinebdit's going to be subject to flagging18:31
stinebdso at some point, we'll have it fleshed out and mark a certain revision as stable. any edits by normal users (non-editors) will need to be approved before they're shown publicly18:32
arrrghhhguten18:32
arrrghhhi will flesh this out now18:32
stinebdand if people start abusing it for support, we mark it protected18:32
arrrghhhi'm sure my boss appreciates all this "work" i'm doing lol18:32
stinebdwell, if he asks just tell him it's either this or porn18:32
F22lol18:33
F22later gentlemen, i'll be back in a few hours.18:34
arrrghhhpeace18:35
rpierce99arrrghhh: if you're as good at your job as you are at testing, your boss probably won't notice the difference :P18:35
arrrghhhheh, thanks dude.18:35
stinebdhah18:35
stinebdbam!18:35
stinebdhe knocked you down a notch18:36
arrrghhhdown?18:36
rpierce99i gotta keep arrrghhh in check, the forums give him a big head sometimes18:36
arrrghhhi think he was trying to compliment me.18:36
arrrghhhLMAO right18:36
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rpierce99arrrghhh: you're totally right, that sentance can be read both ways18:37
rpierce99i of course meant it the nicest possible way18:37
arrrghhhwell i assumed that18:37
arrrghhhstinebd just assumed not.18:37
arrrghhh:P18:37
stinebdwhat can i say? i'm a pessimist.18:37
arrrghhhditto18:38
* rpierce99 whispers to stinebd - i totally meant it the way you thought18:38
arrrghhhlol18:38
rpierce99oh wait, isn't that how you pm on IRC18:38
arrrghhhheh18:38
arrrghhhcoming along18:43
arrrghhhis there some winmo app people are using to fix that time drift between android and winmo?18:43
arrrghhhi have my time synced with my network provider, and never personally ran into the bug.18:43
stinebdno idea, me too18:44
arrrghhhmeh18:44
stinebdwell i mean when i had the sim card in it18:44
arrrghhhi'll just leave it then.18:44
rpierce99i've always just used clocksync in android18:44
stinebdnowadays i just put up with the wrong time18:44
arrrghhhlol18:44
arrrghhhwhy would you even boot winmo anymore stinebd :P18:44
stinebdto boot back into android18:44
arrrghhhrpierce99, some have reported that the time drifts between winmo and android.18:44
JesusFreak316Wrong time sucks for connecting to my secure school network. :/18:44
arrrghhhwhy?18:45
JesusFreak316But yeah, clocksync for Android.18:45
arrrghhhwoah contents18:45
rpierce99oh the time zone thing, just read the faq, it always was correct in WinMo and 6 hours off in Android18:45
arrrghhhi didn't do that18:45
JesusFreak316The login credentials require a correct date and time.18:45
arrrghhhit automatically does that huh18:45
arrrghhhcool18:45
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, that's retarded.18:45
stinebdwho are they to define correct time?18:45
lodtankrpierce99: sounds like the hardwareclock-always-on-gmt-issue?:)18:46
JesusFreak316A lot of things require that but most of the time it's not an issue because most clocks stay synced pretty well but not my phone since I'm simless.18:46
stinebdrpierce99: i contend that it was always correct in android and (UTC offset) hours off in winmo18:47
arrrghhhyea every other system uses UTC and then works backwards to local time.18:47
arrrghhhwinmo.. just uses local time.18:47
arrrghhhwhat a jumble.18:48
lodtankwell, there is a reason why there is "windows" in "windows mobile":)18:49
JesusFreak316stinebd: When you gonna port honeycomb?18:49
JesusFreak316 /trolling18:49
arrrghhhlol aosp hasn't dropped for that yet.18:49
stinebdi got it running on my nook color right now18:49
JesusFreak316Awesome. My brother got one and I want to hack it SOOO BAD.18:49
arrrghhhpm.debug_mask=218:50
arrrghhhis that still a valid option?18:50
stinebdyes18:50
arrrghhhcool18:50
JesusFreak316So, with Cotulla and his kin porting magldr to RHOD, have you guys been in contact with them much?18:51
arrrghhhyea18:51
JesusFreak316Cool beans.18:52
arrrghhhEnable Proximity Sensor - board-htcrhodium-proximity.on=118:52
arrrghhhwtf18:52
arrrghhhi'll let F22 do the acpuclock stuff18:55
arrrghhhthe more i add19:00
arrrghhhthe crappier the pages looks.19:00
stinebdi'll work on the formatting after you're done19:01
arrrghhhlol19:01
arrrghhhi got most of the major stuff out of the way19:02
arrrghhhnow just goin thru and seeing what else is missing19:02
stinebdi like to do a lot of bell/whistle type crap like lists and monospace fonts for filenames/commands/arguments19:02
arrrghhhyea19:02
arrrghhhhelps19:02
arrrghhhmine so far is just a big jumble19:02
arrrghhhwith random headers19:02
stinebdi stole that idea from my old project19:02
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stinebdarrrghhh: seen the androidify app?19:06
stinebdoh btw i got market push working on my n1 by wiping /data19:07
stinebdhttps://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.apps.androidify19:07
arrrghhhhaven't seen that19:07
stinebdi made my new xda avatar with it19:08
arrrghhhlol19:08
arrrghhhi saw your avatar19:08
stinebdballin droid19:08
arrrghhhheh19:08
stinebdthat's exactly how nerdy i look in real life too19:09
stinebdexcept for the antennae19:09
arrrghhhyou sure about the antennae?19:09
stinebdthey look nerdier in real life19:09
arrrghhhbah19:12
arrrghhhi think i'm done with the faq for now.19:12
arrrghhhlol my sleep_mode test goes off the page.19:13
arrrghhhnice19:13
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arrrghhhstupid phone19:21
arrrghhhdroid explorer likes to kick off my tether every time i close it.19:21
stinebdoh19:23
stinebdi totally forgot about wep19:23
stinebdseen anything on the forums about it in gingerbread?19:24
arrrghhhoh and how we were supposed to test that new wpa_supplicant?19:24
manekinekoI got market push working on my TP2 but installing your GB build19:24
arrrghhhnope19:24
arrrghhhstinebd, haven't seen anything about wep and gb19:24
stinebdget someone to try it and report please19:24
arrrghhhdon't tell me i have to mess with my router again.19:24
manekinekoI could try it right now19:24
arrrghhhfawk19:24
arrrghhhlol manekineko yes.19:24
arrrghhhsave me the pain19:24
manekinekooh wait, no I can't19:25
stinebdi'm pretty sure it worked for me, but i didn't check to see if it was broken in froyo on ti19:25
manekinekoGB won't be able to tether to my other phone19:25
arrrghhhstinebd, it's only bcm that has the issue.19:25
manekinekowhich is where I normally test WEP19:25
arrrghhhmanekineko, we need to test with an AP19:25
manekinekowithout the patched wpa_supplicant19:25
arrrghhhand that's what we want you to test19:26
arrrghhhwithout any patched files...19:26
arrrghhhvanilla gb19:26
manekinekoyeah, unfortunately I don't have any way to test it handy19:26
arrrghhhis 0.6.x in gb stinebd ?19:26
stinebdno19:26
arrrghhhyea, i'm at work so no go there.19:26
stinebdbut it has a logic change19:26
stinebdmaybe it'll work19:26
arrrghhhhm19:26
arrrghhhi guess if i'm not feeling lazy i'll test it when i get home19:26
arrrghhhbut since it's v-day, probably not.19:26
stinebdarrrghhh gonna be mad19:26
arrrghhhwhy?19:27
stinebdhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Kernel_boot_command-line_parameters19:27
arrrghhhlmao19:27
arrrghhhnice19:27
arrrghhhnot accurate19:27
arrrghhhbut nice19:27
MassStashGB stine just dropped k to test with?>19:28
MassStashor not vanilla enough?>19:28
arrrghhhuh what19:28
arrrghhhoh my previous question19:28
arrrghhhyea that's the only gb build from XDAndroid that exists dude :P19:29
MassStashwerd19:29
arrrghhhmanekineko was just talking about patching the wpa_supplicant file, and we don't want that.19:29
MassStashno sense in talking bout a vanilla GB then...?19:29
arrrghhhjust fire up gb, see if wep works.19:29
MassStashk19:29
stinebdhas to be our gingerbread. no tiad or neopeek19:29
arrrghhhreason i said vanilla was the patched comment by manekineko ...19:29
arrrghhhman, gb is a lot smaller than froyo19:30
MassStashargh, got cha19:30
arrrghhhi'm guessing because of all the crap that's missing.19:30
stinebdjust google apps probably19:30
MassStashstine, yea i stopped f*in with there builds due to your distaste for it19:30
stinebdthey ripped out most of the bundled apps19:30
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MassStashtheir*19:30
arrrghhhstinebd, i guess i'll just link to this page19:31
arrrghhhand clean up this page19:31
manekinekostinebd, is it plausible this line in the dmesg is related to the GApps white screen errors:19:31
manekineko[ERROR] binder: 8196: binder_alloc_buf, no vma19:31
arrrghhhno19:31
manekineko[INFORMATION] binder: 1324:1470 transaction failed 29201, size 56-019:31
arrrghhherrors would be in logcat if anything19:31
manekinekoI see an awful lot of those around the times I used the gapps19:31
arrrghhhthose are binder transactions19:31
manekinekowhat are binder transactions?19:31
arrrghhhwistilt2 put some traps in for those AFAIK19:31
stinebdthose would be a related symptom perhaps, but not a cause19:32
stinebdso nothing really useful log-wise19:32
arrrghhhmanekineko, kernel problem.19:32
arrrghhhnot sure exactly what they mean19:32
stinebdipc failures19:32
manekinekookay cool, just wanted to check19:32
stinebdsome process isn't communicating the way it should be19:32
arrrghhhah19:32
arrrghhhi do notice a lot of those since wistilt2 put that trap in19:33
stinebdwhat trap?19:33
manekinekolots of oddities too involving end calls when I'm not in a call19:33
arrrghhhi thought he put in some more printks or some crap to catch the sys_server issue19:33
arrrghhhand those binder errors surfaced with it19:33
arrrghhhi could just be rambling tho19:33
stinebdbut we caught the system_server issue19:33
arrrghhhi know19:33
stinebddue to my unending brilliance19:33
arrrghhhi don't think he removed the traps.19:33
arrrghhhlol19:33
* arrrghhh pops stinebd's head19:34
stinebdcant believe it was ****ing sensors of all things19:34
arrrghhhsorry dude, never would have made it out of your house with a head that big.19:34
arrrghhhyea, that was surprising lol19:34
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manekinekoout of curiosity how come Dev Tools doesn't have Terminal Emulator in it anymore?19:36
arrrghhhwhat build19:37
manekinekogrx19:37
arrrghhhhrm19:38
arrrghhhguess i never looked19:38
arrrghhhi always use connectbot19:38
arrrghhhwas that pulled stinebd ?19:38
manekinekois connectbot better than terminal emulator?19:38
arrrghhhuhm... yes.19:38
arrrghhhjust a little.19:38
arrrghhh:P19:38
manekinekohmm, maybe I'll give that a try in the future then19:38
stinebdarrrghhh: probably from the switch from eng to userdebug19:39
arrrghhhhuh19:39
arrrghhhmanekineko, i just use adb tho19:39
arrrghhhi don't ever use the terminal on the phone unless i have it.19:39
arrrghhher19:39
arrrghhhto19:39
arrrghhhhave to19:39
arrrghhhstinebd, i linked in the FAQ to that kernel boot options page19:40
arrrghhhbut it's a freakin mess.  maybe i should summarize and then link to that page?19:40
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arrrghhhi am not good a documentation.19:47
arrrghhhor typing evidently lol19:47
arrrghhhat documentation.19:47
arrrghhhmanekineko, mind if i link to your thread about not working?19:49
arrrghhhi'd like to do a summary, then link to that page.19:50
arrrghhhstinebd, should we have this FAQ cover all devices?19:50
arrrghhhcuz... that'll make it a lot more difficult.19:50
stinebdyeah sure19:54
arrrghhhlol19:54
arrrghhhdamnit19:54
arrrghhhi think we should do separate FAQ's per device19:54
arrrghhhcuz different devices are in different states....19:54
stinebdhow about device specific faqs in a section on that page19:56
arrrghhhagreed19:57
arrrghhhwtf and why19:57
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arrrghhhthere we go19:57
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stinebdsee what i just did there20:01
arrrghhhOoOo20:02
arrrghhhfancy20:02
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stinebdthis wifi-ace thing20:03
arrrghhhyes20:04
stinebdfree?20:04
arrrghhhindeed20:05
stinebdopen-source?20:05
arrrghhhhttp://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-ace/20:05
arrrghhhapache license20:06
arrrghhhbut yes20:06
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MassStashnah, no WEP in GB either20:06
stinebdhot diggity20:06
arrrghhhlol20:06
arrrghhhok20:06
arrrghhhi think i broke out all of the RHOD-specific stuff20:06
arrrghhhalrighty20:08
arrrghhhquittin time, cya guys.20:08
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stinebdhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11359689&postcount=1229220:10
stinebdhehe20:10
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manekinekoarrrghhhh, no problem, link to whatever20:13
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stinebdi've been going about this wep issue all wrong20:35
stinebdi need to look in the wifi provider (frameworks?) instead20:35
manekinekowith that other wpa_supplicant file I stuck in, it was very close, all connectivity except dns seemed to work20:39
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manekinekoL_miller, you there?20:43
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arrrghhhdo any RHODs have front-facing cams?23:36
XirXes100s23:36
arrrghhhOo23:36
arrrghhhall 100's>23:36
arrrghhh?23:36
XirXesprobably not all. but deffinitly the unbranded htc one23:37
arrrghhhnice23:37
arrrghhhsome dumbass posted in my thread23:37
arrrghhhi thought it was the 100, but this dude is saying it's the vz version23:37
arrrghhhi know the 500 doesn't so... yea23:37
arrrghhhheh23:37
XirXesnone of the us ones have it. if he thinks so you should ask him if hes ever used it23:38
arrrghhhit's that dswaggz moron23:38
arrrghhhso i just assume any post of his is just entirely wrong.23:38
XirXeslol23:39
XirXeshave you seen the htc phones with the facebook buttons? they look terible23:39
XirXesthe keyboarded one is basically the htc snap. and the touch one brought back the chin23:40
arrrghhhwtf23:40
arrrghhhno23:40
XirXesi have no idea why someone out there thought a facebook button was a good idea. nobody likes fads when there commercialized23:42
arrrghhhit's a dedciated hardkey23:46
arrrghhhwith a failbook symbol on it23:46
XirXesits very fail23:46
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