Wednesday, 2011-02-09

Guest61007What about help testing froyo?  Seems there is more out there than what gets released on the boards.00:01
arrrghhhnot really00:01
arrrghhhi release as much as i possibly can00:01
arrrghhhwhat else do you think there is?00:01
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arrrghhhwhat RHOD do you have?00:06
Guest6100740000:06
arrrghhhheh00:07
arrrghhhare you on frx04?00:07
Guest61007Y00:07
arrrghhhcool00:07
arrrghhhstinebd, your rootfs seems to work great.00:07
arrrghhhhowever, the g-sensor seems "numb"00:07
arrrghhhslow almost... not sure how to describe it.  doesn't seem to rotate any apps either, i was just playing that game Labyrinth or whatever.00:08
arrrghhhbut there's a new rootfs you can test00:08
arrrghhhGuest61007, do you get that nasty system_server bug on every boot?00:08
arrrghhhhttp://files.xdandroid.com/.releng/rootfs.img00:09
arrrghhhrun that rootfs, see if it fixes the system_server issues.00:09
arrrghhhmight have some funky g-sensor problems, just fyi ;)00:09
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Guest61007 I saw the testing thread, but wasn't very clear..what it the system_server issue?00:10
arrrghhhprocess pegs the processor on the phone00:10
arrrghhhhappens to me every single boot basically00:10
arrrghhhchokes the phone so you can't really do anything on it00:10
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arrrghhhmaking a phone call makes it go away00:10
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Guest61007Ahh..didn't realize that was it.. yeah..I've seen that..ill try that root.00:12
rpierce99if you don't get the system_server issue on every boot it might be better to just keep your working g-sensor00:14
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phhstinebd: bluetooth did work at some point04:40
phhin released images04:40
phhI mean, I think that was even my first actaul erlease :D04:40
phhhttp://husson.hd.free.fr/old/Android-diam-bt-wifi.7z04:47
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hycwell bummer, couldn't mount /dev/block/mtdblock0 at all. I guess it's not in a valid partition format or something.05:00
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stinebdphh: well i meant since we started actually building the images from source16:59
phhright16:59
stinebdhyc: told you it wouldn't work :D17:00
rpierce99stinebd: what did you do to the sensors file in this rootfs17:03
stinebdheh17:03
stinebdadded a ridiculously long delay to the poll loop17:03
stinebdsomething like .1 seconds17:03
rpierce99haha that explains it17:03
stinebdi put that big delay and did it unconditionally just to make sure that's what it was17:04
stinebdi presume the system_server issue is gone with it?17:04
rpierce99yes, for me at least, arrrghhh didn't have any either last night, haven't seen him today17:05
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rpierce99so you think the sensor poll loop gets out of control looping somehow without any form of sleep or exit condition17:06
stinebdin a certain case, yes17:07
stinebddoes rotating still work (eventually) with that rootfs?17:08
rpierce99i wansn't able to get things like browser orientation to rotate, but arrrghhh was able to play one of those tilt games with it, albeit slowly17:08
rpierce99i take that back, youtube rotates17:09
lodtankhi, some noob question, don't kill me for that: i'm totally new to android, do you consider xdandroid suitable for daily use? or which things should be fixed/improved, so that you would suggest it for daily use?17:12
rpierce99lodtank: daily use on what phone17:12
lodtanktmobile mda compact iV aka htc touch diamond17:13
rpierce99probably depends on your willingness to put up with issues. There WILL be issues. If you don't need the features that don't work (there are things that just dont work, at all), and you don't mind the occasional reboot or freeze up or other weird behavior, then maybe17:15
lodtankthx:)17:18
lodtankanyway, great work:)17:18
rpierce99haha not me :)17:20
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rpierce99lots of people to thank, but I'm certainly not one of them17:20
lodtankwas not directed just at you:)17:20
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lodtankhow often are there releases? and what is this ota update mentioned in the forum? when do i use this?:)17:33
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stinebdlodtank: releases are made when appropriate. see http://xdandroid.com/wiki/OTA for ota update information17:37
lodtanki already read that, but when can i use these?17:38
stinebdwhen upgrading from an old official xdandroid system image17:39
stinebdif you're doing initial installation, you must use a full system image17:39
lodtanki may not have used system-updates?17:41
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Nautisbah.. I never knew there was an update system implimented in xdandroid17:49
rpierce99just for system image17:49
Nautisahh patches.. no androidupdate.tar.gz stuff like the vogue/kaiser though right..18:04
rpierce99uses android's update.zip mechanism18:07
rpierce99i'm not really sure what the androidupdate.tar.gz is, probably more inclusive18:09
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rpierce99update.zip appears to be a patch against system.ext2 from what I can tell18:09
Nautisnah the androidupdate.tar.gz stuff just replaced files in system with ones contained in it as far as I can remember18:18
NautisI dunno its been a while.. was thinking it might be a good alternative to the mount --bind user.conf stuff on the user side at least18:24
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stinebdrpierce99: still here?19:06
rpierce99yep19:06
stinebdi threw a new rootfs up at the same location if you'd like to try it19:07
arrrghhhnew new?19:07
stinebdstill steaming19:07
arrrghhheh?19:07
stinebdarrrghhh: you too. let me know if responsiveness is any better19:07
rpierce99new, hot off the presses, steaming hot19:07
arrrghhhheh19:07
arrrghhhfair enough.19:08
rpierce99i don't have the url, it rolled off the top19:08
arrrghhhso what was the issue sir stine?19:08
stinebdhttp://files.xdandroid.com/.releng/rootfs.img19:08
rpierce99thx19:08
arrrghhhah, read the summary from rpierce9919:09
arrrghhhinteresting.19:09
stinebdarrrghhh: the polling loop is untimed and that may cause the issue in certain cases (which i can't reliably reproduce with my hardware)19:09
arrrghhhodd19:09
arrrghhhi don't get why making a phone call fixes it lol19:09
arrrghhhi guess it clears something in that lib?  *shrug*19:10
stinebdi would assume the phone app calls for a proximity sensor listing which bails the sensor service of that loop19:11
arrrghhhmakes sense.19:11
arrrghhhhope to get that working soon, prox sensor would be schweet.19:12
stinebdi'm not interested in it19:12
stinebdbecause raph doesn't have one :P19:12
arrrghhhi was going to say19:12
arrrghhhi didn't think raph has one lol19:12
arrrghhhit's funny, they really did some nice tweaks to the rhod19:12
arrrghhhand then removed and left some other really odd things.  very strange.19:13
arrrghhhthey still sell it for $200 on a 2yr contract.19:13
arrrghhhseems like they really want to sell it as a feature phone, but the processor and memory choices make me scratch my head.19:14
arrrghhhand removing the flash?  i never used to use it as an actual camera flash, but the damned thing made a great little flashlight haha19:15
arrrghhhbleh.19:15
arrrghhhi'm too damned picky.  everything has too many cons for me to spend more money lol19:15
rpierce99arrrghhh: but turning the panel on with just a white screen is the same thing! /sarcasm19:15
arrrghhhlol19:17
arrrghhhmy mogul i had a long press hard key to turn on the flashlight19:17
arrrghhhit was sick.19:17
arrrghhhi used that way more then the camera.19:17
stinebdhah xkcd. so true.19:17
rpierce99I just had to cover my microsd -> sd card adapter in tape to stop the damn lock switch from flipping every time i put it in19:21
stinebdsandisk?19:22
rpierce99yes :)19:22
stinebdyeah, their adapters are trash19:22
rpierce99apparently. Never even used it until yesterday. I have trouble getting my mac to mount the phone properly in storage mode, so I've just been using the adapter for the last 2 days. Apparently 1 day is the max for that particular adapter19:23
arrrghhhmSD -> USB ftw19:25
rpierce99so stinebd: this new rootfs19:25
arrrghhhthose things are awesome, got one with my last kingston mSD purchase.19:25
arrrghhhi have like 4 now hehe19:25
rpierce99first boot with it, i can adb in and system_server is not freaking out, but all i have is a black screen, no lock screen, solid orange light19:26
rpierce99gave me a message asking if it wanted to wait for the system19:26
rpierce99i'll try rebooting19:26
arrrghhhwhat's top saying?19:27
arrrghhhpatience :P19:27
rpierce99unless a dmesg or logcat would be more helpful19:27
rpierce99nothing is using any proc19:27
arrrghhhhuh19:27
rpierce99well, nothing significant19:27
rpierce99total usage ~1&19:27
rpierce99% even19:27
stinebdprobably not the rootfs's fault19:27
arrrghhhi wouldn't think so either.19:27
rpierce99k thats what i figured19:27
* arrrghhh is lazy19:27
stinebdi only divided the usleep by 1019:27
arrrghhhi guess i'll reboot.  damnit :P19:28
stinebdwait arrrghhh19:28
stinebdi have another rootfs i can put up in a sec19:28
arrrghhhkk19:28
arrrghhhbeing lazy has paid off, again.19:28
rpierce99well i'm back in WinMo, should I wait too?19:29
stinebddone19:29
arrrghhhsame link i presume?19:29
stinebdyeah19:29
arrrghhhkk19:29
arrrghhhthx19:29
arrrghhhheh.  i'm lovin wget now.19:30
arrrghhhit's... holyfast19:30
stinebdmy server's provider is also holyfast19:30
arrrghhhhelps19:30
arrrghhh2M/s19:30
stinebdi've topped it off around 75Mbit/s sustained19:30
arrrghhhnot megabits, bytes...19:30
arrrghhhand damn.  that's way more b/w than i have/19:30
stinebdat which point i'm told they start capping it for customer safety19:30
arrrghhhlol19:31
arrrghhh"safety"19:31
arrrghhhso their routers don't burst into flames?19:31
stinebdno19:31
stinebdso i don't hit my 300GB/mo transfer limit in 5 minutes19:31
arrrghhhhow kind of them19:31
stinebdlinode.com if you ever need hosting, btw19:31
arrrghhhyea we are in the process of serious upgrading our replication bandwidth, and it's going to be way cheaper.19:32
arrrghhhwhich is odd.19:32
arrrghhhwe pay $18k/mo for a 155mbps private MPLS connection.  9k up, 9k down...19:32
arrrghhhwe're going to direct fiber basically, private routed ethernet, 2gbit.  for like 5k/mo or something.19:33
stinebdwell that's why it's cheaper then19:33
arrrghhhindeed19:33
arrrghhhno mpls mess19:33
arrrghhhno QoS either19:33
arrrghhhbut we just fill the pipe with mainframe replication traffic, doesn't really matter.19:33
stinebdmainframe?19:34
arrrghhhlol yea19:34
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stinebdyou running a cluster of eniacs?19:34
arrrghhhthere's a SAN as well that replicates via iSCSI19:34
arrrghhhnot sure what eniacs are19:34
stinebdlol19:34
stinebd**google wikipedia eniac19:34
xdandroidstinebd: ENIAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC>; File:Eniac.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eniac.jpg>; Eniac (record producer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eniac_(record_producer)>; ENIAC Joint Technology Initiative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)19:34
arrrghhhno19:34
arrrghhhIBM z1019:34
arrrghhhz/os crap19:34
arrrghhhwas VSE19:35
rpierce99stinebd: you need to make that provide lmgtfy links19:35
rpierce99or make it **letsgoogle or something19:35
arrrghhhdick :P19:36
rpierce99i didn't say anything :)19:36
arrrghhhi was gonna google it, just slow.19:36
arrrghhhbooting now btw :P19:36
stinebdirc google is faster19:36
stinebdno pesky javascript or graphics19:36
arrrghhhindeed it is19:36
rpierce99let me refer you to your previous statement: arrrghhh is lazy19:36
arrrghhhlol19:37
arrrghhhyea well.  don't have to rub it in ;)19:37
rpierce99whats that game to test the tilt19:37
arrrghhhlabyrinth19:37
rpierce99it booted properly this time, btw19:38
arrrghhhhoorah19:38
arrrghhhfirst boot was flawless.  let's see how the sensor is now.19:38
arrrghhhstinebd, you are a genius.19:40
rpierce99it doesn't feel any less sensetive than when i play that dumb game in WinMo19:40
arrrghhhlol19:40
stinebdlol19:40
arrrghhhbetter than angry birds.19:40
stinebdthat game rocks actually19:40
arrrghhhi actually enjoy it myself hehe19:40
stinebdnot angry birds19:40
stinebdscrew angry birds19:40
* rpierce99 just sucks at it and hates it for that reason19:41
arrrghhhlol19:41
stinebdme too19:41
arrrghhhit's challenging19:41
stinebdbut it's like marble madness or mega man19:41
arrrghhhyea19:41
stinebdthat's why you keep playing it19:41
arrrghhhindeed...19:41
arrrghhhanyhoo, seems great dude.19:41
stinebdgood19:41
arrrghhhgets my stamp of approval.19:41
rpierce99agreed19:41
stinebdso i'll go ahead and push the code and the binary19:41
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stinebdand i guess put a test request on the bug19:41
arrrghhhno JIT either :P19:42
arrrghhhhad to check, just to make sure lol19:42
arrrghhhtop is slaughtering my processor!  what is this renegade process.19:43
stinebdwtf now i broke top with it?19:43
stinebd(kidding)19:43
arrrghhhlol19:44
arrrghhhi just love how when you first run top it goes to like 30%19:44
arrrghhhso the first thing you see is top being the main culprit on the system hehe19:44
arrrghhhF22, what's up dude.19:44
rpierce99stinebd: did you just put a small delay in or did you find the condition that was freaking it out19:44
stinebdrpierce99: http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_xdandroid-sensors/commit/a848314c545e1e91af30a9c26087f56a6126370219:45
arrrghhhlol so it was just spamming the system way too frequently basically19:45
arrrghhhthat's interesting.  so JIT masks shitty code eh?19:46
stinebdwho knows19:46
arrrghhhoh well.  glad to put this bug behind us.19:47
arrrghhhi feel like i actually helped with something too.  in some small way lol19:47
rpierce99so without full context I can't really see where we are here, but the notes say "on incomplete data read" so what is trying to read that is incomplete?19:47
rpierce99haha just found side-by-side19:48
rpierce99oh wait, that doesn't show the full code either19:48
stinebdit's trying to read data from the input device19:49
rpierce99so sometimes the sensor doesn't respond properly?19:50
stinebdcould be a race, which appears to happen quite often in rhod's case19:50
arrrghhhBWHAHAHAHA19:51
arrrghhhtiad8 said he's going to get flash working by combining it with adobe air19:51
Nautisbleh19:51
arrrghhhand "modding the entire system.ext2" was his claim.19:51
rpierce99dude just gets crazier and crazier19:51
arrrghhhclassic.19:52
stinebdthere's an adobe air for android?19:52
arrrghhhi guess.19:52
arrrghhhmaybe he'll try the desktop version19:52
arrrghhhfor mac19:52
arrrghhhbecause that makes the most sense...19:52
Nautisooh argh he apparently didnt pull blazn from the latest release or its not a direct copy19:53
xdandroidNew rootfs available (20110210-41ac1a3) at: http://is.gd/3WNTdU -- Changes at: http://is.gd/HbEpjm19:53
stinebdi think he uses some huawei rom19:54
Nautisyeah its all huawei rom fron neopeek19:54
Nautis*from19:54
arrrghhhit is19:54
arrrghhhbut i think that's the BLAZN theme19:54
arrrghhhhow else did he get it all black like that...19:55
Nautisoh theres no doubt its blazn19:55
arrrghhhseriously doubt he actually did the framework changes for that.19:55
arrrghhhlike you pointed out, there's an easy how-to thread on that.19:55
stinebdso wait19:55
arrrghhhreminds me, i should contact reef.19:55
stinebdhe tool the huawei rom and stuck blazn's frameworks in there?19:55
arrrghhhtiad8 is an equal-opportunity thief.19:55
stinebdtool!19:55
stinebdtook.19:55
arrrghhhlol tool19:55
Nautisyes19:55
Nautisits fitting19:56
arrrghhhindeed19:56
NautisI tihnk it is from an older version of blazn19:57
Nautisgod I cant type19:57
arrrghhhis there a newer version of blazn?  lol19:57
arrrghhhlast release of that was sept. 2819:57
stinebdouch19:57
stinebdreef get a new phone?19:57
NautisI mean older than that one :D19:57
arrrghhhheh19:57
arrrghhhoh yea19:57
rpierce99you forgot to mention the part where he says Adobe Air will give us more GPU power19:57
arrrghhhreef got an sgs a while ago.19:57
stinebdew19:58
arrrghhhrpierce99, sorry... that is very important.19:58
stinebdhe'll be back19:58
arrrghhhstinebd, i noes.  wtf was he thinking.19:58
arrrghhhhe still has his RHOD19:58
stinebdexactly19:58
arrrghhhi bug him randomly about BLAZN19:58
stinebdyou don't get rid of an htc to buy a sammy19:58
arrrghhhheh19:58
Nautishehe tiad already has flash 10.1 and flashlite installing19:58
rpierce99according to the thread they don't actually work though19:59
stinebdi don't know why people are interested in flash on xdandroid19:59
stinebdit's slow on my nexus one. could you imagine it on this crap?19:59
Nautispeople are greedy bastards19:59
arrrghhhyup19:59
arrrghhhthey think "Android!  I can run flash... and angry birds... and everything a brand new Android phone can!"19:59
Nautisindeed20:00
arrrghhhif they stopped and looked at what a lot of native android phones can run, they'd realize there's f-ing hardware limitations.20:00
arrrghhhyou can only write so much code for old shitty hardware.20:00
arrrghhhi'm just happy to have android.  in many ways, it's more stable than winmo.20:00
arrrghhheven at this stage lol20:01
rpierce99arrrghhh: I agree 100%, i get way more frustrated by slowness, crashing, etc in WinMo now than I do in XDAndroid20:01
arrrghhhkinda sad really, but we always new winmo sucked.20:02
arrrghhhlol that's sad.20:03
arrrghhhmy android phone picks up on email before my OPEN gmail inbox does.20:03
arrrghhhoh and stinebd thanks for the tip on k9.  love it.20:03
rpierce99My exchange email comes in: phone, entourage (mac), Outlook (windows connected over vpn)20:04
stinebdarrrghhh: it's open-source too!20:04
stinebdwe could fork it and call it xda920:05
arrrghhhlol20:05
rpierce99I'm using the built in mail client for my exchange, can k-9 handle corp security policies?20:06
stinebdif not, patches welcome20:06
arrrghhhlmao20:06
arrrghhhsuch a great phrase.20:06
arrrghhhassuming the patch is accepted, of course.20:06
stinebdpatches unwelcome.20:07
Nautisohh..20:07
arrrghhhlol20:07
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F22arrrghhh: what's up? you called earlier?22:00
arrrghhhheh22:01
arrrghhhcalled22:01
arrrghhhyea man, COMMIT22:01
arrrghhhoh sorry22:01
arrrghhhinside voice22:01
F22lol22:01
arrrghhhhow's the rootfs stuff comin?  :P22:02
arrrghhhdidja see the new rootfs from sir stinebd !?!??!?22:02
arrrghhhif you haven't i will slap you.22:02
arrrghhh:P22:02
F22when did he post it? today?22:02
arrrghhhwell yesterday22:02
arrrghhhand fixed it further today22:02
F22not the commit with the new ril?22:03
arrrghhhoh noes22:03
arrrghhhlibsensors22:03
arrrghhhit was the gsensor believe it or not...22:03
arrrghhhYA HUUUUUUURD22:03
arrrghhhhurrrrrrrrrr22:03
arrrghhhsorry.22:03
F22system_server?22:03
arrrghhhyea22:03
F22this is what happens when i take a little time to have social life. i miss crap. lol.22:04
F22so the new libsensors fixes system_server completely all by itself?22:04
F22or is there more involved?22:05
rpierce99F22:There was a path through the polling loop that had no sleep, essentially creating an endless, sleepless loop, stinebd added sleep22:06
arrrghhhF22, just giving ya shit :P22:06
arrrghhhyea it was just hammering it22:07
arrrghhhsurprised it wasn't hammering it always... i don't quite understand the gravity of what he did tho.22:07
* arrrghhh usually doesn't22:07
F22interesting22:07
F22hmmm....git pull says i'm already up to date.22:08
rpierce99xdandroid: New rootfs available (20110210-41ac1a3) at: http://is.gd/3WNTdU -- Changes at: http://is.gd/HbEpjm22:09
F22ahhh...stinebd finished his little project. it's no longer eclair-rootfs.22:10
arrrghhhheh22:10
arrrghhhhe was on a merging and migrating binge the other day.22:13
F22lol, i see22:13
rpierce99in case you missed the other exciting news, tiad8 is going to give us more GPU power by installing Adobe Air22:14
arrrghhhoh right22:15
arrrghhhi forgot about that bombshell...22:15
stinebdarrrghhh: do me a favor tomorrow and kick my ass if i don't work on wpa_supplicant please22:16
arrrghhhlmao22:16
arrrghhhi'll do my best.22:16
arrrghhhi've actually been busy at work lately :P22:16
stinebdwhenever you get on tomorrow night just remind me about it because chances are i'll forget again22:16
arrrghhhheh22:17
stinebdi'll probably put out a signed test gingerbread build tomorrow with our current progress plus browser fix22:18
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F22neat22:18
arrrghhhindeed22:18
stinebdi might disable bluetooth totally22:18
arrrghhhheh22:19
stinebdstill not getting anywhere on that22:19
arrrghhhworks fine on bcm22:19
stinebdright22:19
stinebdif by works you mean does nothing22:19
arrrghhhindeed22:19
arrrghhhas in doesn't blow up the system.22:19
arrrghhhdamnit.  ah well, i'm going to have to sign off soon.  made a deal with the devil22:20
arrrghhhi mean my gf.22:20
stinebdnight22:20
arrrghhhif she makes dinner, i have to get off the computer all night lol22:20
arrrghhhthe things i do to have someone else cook me food.22:20
F22arrrghhh: do me a favor and remind me to get up off my ass tomorrow and mail stinebd his new rhod, otherwise i'll probably forget again.22:20
F22:P22:20
stinebdgah22:21
rpierce99i saw Cotulla enjoying his new Rhod earlier22:21
stinebdthat would've been helpful for the system_server thing :P22:21
arrrghhhlol22:21
F22sorry bout that22:21
arrrghhhlol22:21
arrrghhhawesome22:21
F22i keep waiting for it to be on my way22:21
stinebdno worries, i had arrrghhh as my testing slave22:21
arrrghhhi'm pretty good at that.22:21
F22problem is that whenever it is on my way i end up being short on time.22:22
arrrghhhon a serious note tho22:23
arrrghhhhow is the rootfs testing goin22:23
arrrghhhi know you squashed a bunch of bugs there at the beginning22:23
stinebdi gave up on that22:23
stinebdi just push and hope now22:23
arrrghhhnot you :P22:23
stinebdkinda like using the toilet22:23
stinebdoh22:23
arrrghhhF2222:23
F22lol22:23
arrrghhhlmao22:24
F22oh, i suppose i could commit most of it. i've done a bit of reorganizing though.22:24
arrrghhhheh22:25
arrrghhhyou'll never finish it if you keep doing that crap :P22:25
arrrghhhwell if you don't get it committed anytime soon22:25
arrrghhhyou should pull the new fix.22:26
arrrghhhbah food time.22:26
arrrghhhcya guys tomorrow...22:26
F22right.22:26
F22have a good night arrrghhh22:26
arrrghhhyou too bro.  talk to you guys later.22:26
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F22stinebd: btw, do you have an issue with renaming me the "rhod*_navi_pad" kl's to "rhod_gpio-keypad"?22:44
stinebdas long as it works, i don't care if you slap a horse in the balls and bsd license the process22:45
F22lol, it works. they're still all getting copied to the same name in the end. would have to alter the kernel to adjust that i think.22:45
F22it doesn't matter what the original file's name is, as long as it's raph_navi_pad.kl in the end, regardless of whether or not it's a raph. :P22:48
stinebdwow http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-allentown-house-explodes-020911,0,7470195.story23:31
stinebdlots of houses exploding around here lately23:31
stinebdprobably meth labs23:32
F22lol23:40
F22yep, gotta wonder what they were storing in that house...23:41
stinebdthere was one last year about a block from where i work which took out about half the windows on the adjacent side of our building23:41
stinebd"took out" means cracked, not shattered :(23:41
stinebdstupid resilient glass23:42
F22lol23:42
F22the worst explosion i've seen was when i was living in Edision awhile back and a gas pipeline blew up. it was like daylight in the middle of the night, with this huge pillar of fire in the sky. it was like something out of the bible.23:43
stinebdexcept it was real *runs*23:43
F22only time i've ever seen cars slagged.23:44
F22melted cars, weird site23:44
F22thank god it didn't set the surrounding area on fire.23:45
F22or we might have had to evacuate.23:45
F22my who neighborhood was outside in the middle of the night just staring in awe.23:46
F22who=whole23:46
F22never seen an actual house blow up before, burn down yes, blow up, no. one neighbor hit one too many 0's on the microwave and then forgot there was something in there and left.  no house when they got back.23:48
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