Sunday, 2011-01-30

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coppollahi i found nand flash for touch pro 2 does this working on raphael10:15
coppollathis is it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=88396610:16
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arrrghhhF22, lol12:00
arrrghhh"It's a tad late...but HTC finally got around to posting the .32 kernel12:01
arrrghhhsource for a msm7x00 handset (T-Mobile myTouch3G/Sapphire) to their dev12:01
arrrghhhsite.12:01
arrrghhh" <----- yea since we're going to 35 i'd say it's a tad late :P12:01
arrrghhhd'oh, stupid irc.12:01
F22:P12:12
arrrghhhnothin new from WisTilt212:13
F22he was on last night but didn't comment.12:13
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arrrghhhyea i saw he was on for several hours12:44
arrrghhhbut didn't say a word... :(12:44
arrrghhhhis newest kernel is sweet tho12:50
arrrghhhjust needs to tweak panel wake a little12:51
arrrghhhyou thar F22 ?13:07
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imranhello13:42
imranany one here awake?13:42
imranwhts the topic for today? agenda here?13:43
arrrghhhuh13:43
arrrghhhno agenda13:43
arrrghhhthis is a help room13:44
arrrghhhwe help people if they have problems...13:44
imranat last some one has spoken13:44
arrrghhh...13:44
imrani hope u remember me ]13:44
imran>?13:44
arrrghhhhow could i forget you13:44
imrannice13:44
arrrghhhmy email box was flooded with wifi bug error logs the other day13:44
imranfloooded13:45
riggedhi guys13:45
riggedcould someone help me determining whether or not i can run xdandroid on my old htc phone?13:46
riggedit's a verizon touch pro13:46
arrrghhhrigged, yup13:46
arrrghhhit'll suck tho13:46
arrrghhhRAPH500 has less ram than the 800 does13:46
arrrghhhwell less ram than any other RAPH in fact.13:46
riggedlol13:46
riggedit always did suck13:46
arrrghhhthank verizon, still not sure why they did that.13:46
arrrghhhyea, they didn't do that to the tp2.13:46
arrrghhhrhod500 is just as good as a rhod400.13:47
riggedhonestly, i just wanna get ps3 jb rom running13:47
riggedim still in love with my d113:47
rigged:)13:47
riggedim not even certain that i can get it working, but the ps3free faq says i can13:47
riggedso...13:47
riggedis it still a sd card boot?13:48
arrrghhhcan't help you with that13:48
arrrghhhthis is for XDAndroid13:48
riggedoh i know13:48
arrrghhhbut yes13:48
arrrghhhit still depends on the sd card to boot13:48
riggedk13:48
imrandid u check the logs13:49
imranarrrr13:49
riggedso finding the file, sticking it on the sd card, and running it should boot xdandroid13:49
arrrghhhimran, it works for me, so i don't know what to tell you.13:49
arrrghhhi haven't looked at the logs at all13:50
imrani got a topaz device13:50
imranwhich one u got13:50
arrrghhhimran, ah didn't realize that.  maybe that's the problem13:50
arrrghhhnot many topaz devs afaik.13:50
arrrghhhrhodium13:50
rigged? (that was a question, sorry)13:50
arrrghhhrigged, i don't think we've got a completely updated bundle for raph...13:51
arrrghhhyou can grab the frx03 bundle i make on 11/22 or whatever13:51
arrrghhhmade*13:51
riggedcan you point me to it?13:51
arrrghhhweren't you on xda-dev?13:51
riggedyeah13:51
arrrghhhit's in the android dev section13:52
arrrghhh[prj] thread by babijoee13:52
imrantopaz uses tiwlan driver while rodiums use broadcom?>? diff wifi chips? or msake13:54
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arrrghhhyou're probably right13:56
arrrghhhi don't know squat about topaz13:56
arrrghhhactually... emwe has a topaz methinks.13:57
arrrghhhi'll assign him to the bug lol13:57
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riggedarrrghhh, all im finding is a thread with an FRX04 build14:09
arrrghhhscroll down, third post14:09
riggedhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692&highlight=%5Bprj%5D14:09
riggedyour 2.2.1 update?14:11
arrrghhhyea14:11
arrrghhhthat's frx03 with the newest as of 11/2014:11
arrrghhhthen update it14:11
riggedk, sorry to seem like such an idiot14:11
arrrghhhyou can use the OTA update14:11
arrrghhhyou're not14:11
arrrghhhit's confusing14:11
riggedyeah, it seems to be14:11
arrrghhhand babijoee hasn't pruned his posts in a while.14:11
arrrghhhit's hard14:11
riggedim usually on top of stuff like this...14:12
arrrghhhshit moves fast14:12
arrrghhhreal fast... and guys move on to new devices14:12
arrrghhhbut still try to maintain the posts...14:12
riggednow to find that 2GB sd card...14:13
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mjfinally back in again14:20
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Guest8686so arrrrg where were we :)14:22
Guest8686its me imran :)14:22
Guest8686so have you reassigned that infamous wifi error bug report enme if i am right?14:23
arrrghhhnot yet14:24
Guest8686okie14:24
Guest8686why is it so quiet in here ????14:31
arrrghhhuhm14:31
arrrghhhno one needs help?14:31
arrrghhhanyhoo, i need to go fix this utility sink.  cya guys.14:31
Guest8686how many know that this channel exists???14:32
arrrghhhnew kernel posted, enjoy guys.14:32
arrrghhhGuest8686, 17 people?14:32
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Guest8686apart from uss???14:32
Guest8686new kernel where????14:32
Guest8686ok got it14:35
Guest8686nice kernel with speed and stuff but wifi for topaz wont work coz its for rohd only14:35
Guest52528so any one else here for some cooler talk14:43
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stinebdgot gingerbread going real nice. camera, bluetooth, wifi, all working. video recording not quite there yet.16:48
arrrghhh...17:10
arrrghhhdon't tease us stinebd17:10
stinebdit's true!17:11
stinebdfor my nexus one17:11
arrrghhhlol17:11
arrrghhhdick bastard.17:12
arrrghhhso has htc or google forgotten about the n1 since the nS was released?17:12
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FAWAZZZI need some help in installing xdandroid on my htc touch pro 217:22
FAWAZZZCan anyone help me with it?17:22
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arrrghhhnope17:35
stinebdarrrghhh so angry17:43
arrrghhhlol17:44
arrrghhheh, dude couldn't wait 2 minutes17:45
arrrghhhi guess he would've had to wait 10 for me to see it17:45
arrrghhhhey i wanted to ask you a question17:45
arrrghhhcan we somehow set the touch sensitivity of the screen similar to touchflo?17:45
stinebdexplain17:50
stinebdfor someone who doesn't use sense17:51
stinebdin any form17:51
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bzohey stinebd, gave that 1.1 opengl driver a try17:59
arrrghhhstinebd, resistive screens are pressure-sensitive, no?18:00
stinebdmaybe18:13
arrrghhhlol18:14
arrrghhhwell touchflo allows you to configure all sorts of settings18:14
arrrghhhlike speed, acceleration, sensitivity.18:14
stinebdno it doesn't18:15
arrrghhh...?18:15
stinebd?18:15
arrrghhhit does.18:15
stinebdnope18:16
arrrghhhbut... it does.18:16
stinebdlisten pal18:16
stinebdyou obviously didn't go to the fox news school of debate18:16
arrrghhhlol18:16
arrrghhhno u18:16
stinebdwhere does it do that?18:17
stinebdbecause i'm looking through and not seeing anything like that18:17
arrrghhhyou have sense on your raph?18:17
arrrghhhi forget18:17
arrrghhhi'll have to look, 1 sec.18:17
stinebdsense 2.518:17
arrrghhhsure18:18
arrrghhhi dunno what version i have18:18
arrrghhhmanila something18:18
bzostinebd - is there any opengl configuration within the build?18:18
stinebdbzo: explain18:18
bzohaving to do with versions or anything?18:19
stinebdyes18:19
stinebdhold please18:19
bzoI was able to get the binary driver working but there is some incompatibility18:19
stinebdallow me to push something to the ginger branch to illustrate your required change18:19
stinebdif you kindly will18:19
bzomost certainly my good man18:19
stinebdhttp://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/xdandroid-device_xdandroid/commit/abceeb383fdea9c86fa73fc17402e3a2033e484418:25
stinebdthe line 51 change18:25
bzois changing the build.prop sufficient?18:25
stinebdwhich you can just modify the image directly for, of course18:25
stinebdyeah18:25
bzohmm, dunno what the problem is then18:26
bzolib seems to work, but there is mad flickering18:26
stinebdwhat's happening?18:26
stinebdoh18:26
stinebdrhod?18:26
bzoyeah18:26
bzoit's like every other frame is a black one18:26
stinebdthe new library doesn't have [acl]'s changes18:26
bzoI patched my own18:26
stinebdwell18:29
stinebdi'm out of ideas18:29
stinebdbuy a raph i guess18:29
arrrghhhlol18:29
arrrghhhonly solution bzo18:29
bzoit works ok on the raph?18:31
stinebdyeah but i don't recall ever seeing flicker with any of our ridiculous attempts18:32
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arrrghhhstinebd, so i run energyrom, it includes this app called "advanced config"18:32
arrrghhhi'm not sure what vanilla sense has for settings...18:32
stinebddiamontweak?18:32
arrrghhhjust called "Advanced Config"18:33
stinebdprobably the same thing18:33
arrrghhhperhaps18:33
arrrghhhthere's several settings like pressure threshold18:33
stinebda list of a bunch of things with a dropdown in the bottom?18:33
arrrghhhfinger pressure18:33
arrrghhhhigh scrolling speed, low scrolling speed18:33
arrrghhhi don't see a dropdown, just a giant tree of settings18:33
arrrghhhwith a description box at the bottom18:33
arrrghhhbut it's under the "HTC TouchFLO" settings that those settings reside...18:34
stinebdah okay18:34
stinebdthat's the other one18:34
stinebdlet's see what the kernel says18:34
stinebdi mean colonel18:35
stinebdeat more chicken18:35
arrrghhhlol18:35
stinebdoh god gitorious18:44
stinebdhurry up18:44
stinebdarrrghhh: maybe we need an idc file18:53
stinebdlike so http://git.tarot.com.tw/?p=android/device/htc/passion-common.git;a=blob;f=synaptics-rmi-touchscreen.idc;h=8add1713b05a8681c19eac0480d07768ae713c20;hb=HEAD18:54
stinebdthink of it as a touchscreen version of those stupid kcm/kl files18:56
arrrghhhhrm18:59
arrrghhhok18:59
arrrghhhso no, not currently but it'd be doable?18:59
stinebdit has at least 3 things to do with pressure18:59
stinebdwhich may or may not do stuff19:00
arrrghhhcool19:00
stinebdtouch.toolSize19:01
stinebdmy toolSize is too big for this file19:01
arrrghhhlol19:01
stinebd(not really)19:01
arrrghhhi was about to make a bad joke19:01
arrrghhhrelated to that variable19:01
stinebdtoolSize doesn't take doubles :(19:01
stinebdooh19:08
stinebdwould be a rootfs change19:08
stinebdi like those19:08
arrrghhhhaha19:08
arrrghhhnice19:08
stinebdbah, nope19:13
stinebdstill need a system change19:13
bzostinebd, ok got the lib fixed19:17
bzoit's a bit tricker to patch this lib that the 1.0 one19:17
stinebdgive?19:20
bzoI'll run a few more tests with it and email it to you19:21
bzoarrrghhh what do you usually get on neocore?19:30
stinebdunder 900019:35
stinebd17ish i believe19:35
arrrghhhdepends19:39
arrrghhhwith no audio usually mid 18's.19:39
arrrghhhi've seen up to 2019:39
arrrghhhdunno if i've neocore'd frx0419:40
arrrghhhfigured it would be about the same tho19:40
arrrghhh20.419:43
arrrghhhlook at me eat my words19:43
arrrghhhi'm oc'd to 700 tho19:43
arrrghhher 692 whatever the next  step down is.19:43
bzogetting about the same with the 1.1 lib19:44
arrrghhhi'm on 1.0?19:45
bzoyep19:45
arrrghhhhuh19:45
bzostinbd: know what this build.prop value does?19:46
bzodebug.sf.hw19:46
bzothings seem to be running smoother, but not sure if this has any effect, or if it is the jni check turned off19:48
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stinebdplease tell me that's not 019:50
stinebdbasically debug.sf.hw controls how surfaceflinger renders the UI19:50
stinebd=0 means CPU does all the work, =1 means GPU steps in where it can19:50
bzobuild.prop doesn't seem to currently have it19:51
bzopeople in the thread you linked seem to think it defaults to 019:51
stinebdnah19:52
stinebdwell19:52
stinebdfroyo...19:52
stinebdlet's see19:52
stinebdi guess if it's undefined it would be 019:54
stinebdjudging by the chain of logic19:54
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bzowe don't have any hw accelerated 2d though do we?19:55
* stinebd shrugs19:55
manekinekois it known whether the trouble that XDAndroid is having in connecting to WEP wifi is a userland or driver issue?19:55
stinebduserland19:55
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stinebdstop using wep19:55
manekinekoany idea on what the issue is?19:55
arrrghhhlol19:55
arrrghhhdon't use wep19:55
arrrghhhsimple19:55
manekinekoit'd be nice to stop using wep, but sometimes when you travel it's the only thing available19:55
manekinekolike in hotels19:55
arrrghhhtell the hotel it's insecure19:56
arrrghhhhotels usually have open waps19:56
stinebdi wouldn't use wep in a hotel19:56
manekinekolol I'm sure they will take my advice under advisement19:56
arrrghhhthat require you to auth in other ways19:56
manekinekoya sometimes, sometimes not though19:56
manekinekoand a lot of the time, when I just want to jump on the web, I don't care too much if anyone listens in19:56
manekinekoheck, the security of wep is better than those open waps19:56
arrrghhhthen use winmo?19:57
manekinekoanyway could firesheep you on those19:57
arrrghhhlol19:57
manekinekodo you guys have any idea where in userland the problem lies?19:57
stinebdfwiw i don't see debug.sf.hw anywhere in the device tree19:57
manekinekoon that alternative wpa_supplicant I posted about, it gets much closer to connecting19:57
manekinekoit seems to think it's connected but fails to actually receive any data19:57
bzogive that it is named debug, seems like something that is not supposed to be used in production anyways19:58
manekinekowep isn't disabled on purpose somewhere is it? you guys sure hate wep19:58
arrrghhhit sucks donkey balls19:58
arrrghhhi've heard it works on raph's tho19:58
arrrghhhso i'm pretty sure it's not just disabled.19:59
manekinekohmm that's weird, that doesn't sound like a userland thing then19:59
manekinekohow do you know it's userland?19:59
stinebdbecause i'm smart19:59
manekinekolol why all the wep hate anyway, it's not worse than an open access point, and we connect to those19:59
manekinekostinbd: lol nice20:00
stinebdwho says i connect to open access points?20:00
arrrghhh'we'?20:00
arrrghhhseriously lol20:00
manekinekohah 'we' as in XDAndroid does20:00
manekineko'connects' as in has the capabiliity to20:00
arrrghhhoh20:00
arrrghhhso we should block open networks20:00
stinebdi can remove that, hold on...20:00
arrrghhhwe'll take it under advisory.20:00
arrrghhhlol20:00
manekinekohah oh man20:00
arrrghhhwe'll thank manekineko in the forums too20:01
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manekinekothanks arrrghhh you're the best20:01
arrrghhh'we have killed the scourge that is open networks thanks to manekineko' :P20:01
manekinekoI'll be a hero20:01
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manekinekosay arrrghhh, I was looking at that dmesg log I sent you, and noticed this:20:01
stinebdthey'll be dancing in the streets holding sign with your name and making out with cardboard cutouts depicting you20:02
manekineko [NOTICE] Kernel command line: lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 north_am_dialing=1 force_cdma=1 physkeyboard=rhod40  [ERROR] Unknown boot option `lcd.density=240': ignoring  [ERROR] Unknown boot option `clock-7x00.a11=500': ignoring  [ERROR] Unknown boot option `pmem.extra=1': ignoring20:02
manekinekoare all of those errors deprecated?20:02
stinebdyes20:02
arrrghhhall but lcd.density20:02
manekinekowhat's up with the lcd.density error then?20:02
arrrghhhmsmts_calib is ignored as well20:02
arrrghhhit's processed by userland20:02
arrrghhhkernel ignores it20:02
manekinekoahh makes sense20:02
arrrghhher msmts_calib is deprecated as well.20:03
arrrghhhi meant to say20:03
manekinekoany idea where Android finds out the actual resolution of the display from? I assume maybe the display driver?20:04
stinebdi think we could get rid of lcd.density too20:04
stinebdjust use machtype to define it20:04
manekinekosince I edited the lcd.density with the intention of seeing if it would significantly improve responsiveness20:04
manekinekoif I could halve the resolution20:04
stinebdplease draft a patch for that arrrghhh20:04
manekinekobut just changing lcd.density left programs like Neocore still able to detect my true resolution20:04
arrrghhhstinebd, on it20:05
arrrghhhstinebd, done http://pastebin.com/yxBYwdnN20:06
stinebdthis better not be a giant ascii wang20:06
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arrrghhhlmao20:06
manekinekowow, I think I just managed to unlock my phone on the latest WisTilt2 kernel without the panel waking up, that's the worst case I've seen so far20:06
arrrghhhthat probably would've been better20:06
manekinekohad to sleep it again and then wake it to see it already on my home screen20:06
arrrghhhmanekineko, like no backlight...?20:06
manekinekonot sure if the backlight came on or not20:06
arrrghhhwell20:07
arrrghhhi always get the bl to come up20:07
arrrghhhand led goes orange20:07
arrrghhhbut sometimes panel doesn't come up, IE nothing on the screen.20:07
manekinekoright, that's what happens around 50% of the time for me20:07
arrrghhhyea20:08
arrrghhhhopefully WisTilt2 will get it close to how the panel wakes when not in sleep20:08
arrrghhhwhich is basically instantly :P20:08
manekinekoyeah, huge improvement already though20:09
stinebdhah20:09
manekinekoI'm happy with slow wakes with 2x the battery life20:09
stinebdthis stupid suspend animation20:09
stinebdit runs and then there's a black screen when you resume the display20:09
manekinekowhat's the mxmvkeyb_toggle in startup.txt do?20:09
stinebdguess i'll just release it like that and blame wistilt220:09
manekinekomsmvkeyb_toggle that is20:09
stinebdkeeps the visual keyboard (in the kernel) from showing up20:10
manekinekothanks20:10
manekinekois there a downside to enabling north_am_dialing by default?20:11
manekinekothe only effect I've ever noticed of it is that it makes Google Voice dial out work20:11
arrrghhhoh make 1 the default?20:13
arrrghhhmsmkeyb_toggle is a fun one.  we should put out some builds with that enabled again.20:14
arrrghhhi remember seeing that a long time ago lol20:14
arrrghhhlike... before the keyboard was working and the orientation was correct.20:14
manekinekoyeah, or just remove the option entirely and make it always 1 in whatever code checks for it20:14
manekinekonorth_am_dialing I mean20:14
arrrghhhi wonder what bug 80 really is20:16
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Screen Alignment20:16
arrrghhhwhy those clocks only effect the CDMA devices.20:16
arrrghhhand old cdma devices at that.20:16
manekinekotiad8's packages seem to stumble upon a decent number of fairly interesting improvements, but since he just mixes and matches and goes with what works for him, it doesn't seem like he's able to really provide any contributions back to the main build20:20
arrrghhhi guess20:21
manekinekoare his users saying that his build doesn't have the system server issue?20:21
arrrghhhsome20:21
arrrghhhbut after tearing it down20:21
arrrghhhseems fixing the correct apn info helps alleviate the issue20:21
arrrghhhbut doesn't make it disappear.20:21
manekinekodidn't really help for me20:21
arrrghhhi got a few boots that didn't have the issue20:21
manekinekothat's the thing, he thought it was the APN thing too20:21
arrrghhhyea20:22
arrrghhhndno thought it was20:22
arrrghhhand put out a build for sprint only'20:22
manekinekohe makes a lot of discoveries, without knowing what's the root of the improvement20:22
arrrghhhand i did get a few boots that didn't have it20:22
arrrghhhso i dunno20:22
arrrghhhbasically lol20:22
arrrghhhhe just drags up old crap and throws it together20:22
arrrghhhlike you said20:22
manekinekoya, but somehow it works20:22
manekinekolike the way he stumbled into that jni=0 thing20:22
arrrghhhthe problem is he's rebranding the old crap20:22
arrrghhhas if they're his own20:22
stinebdbzo: thank you sir20:22
manekinekowell, he tries to disclaim it, and give thanks to the real devs20:23
manekinekobut his users are extremely 'passionate'20:23
stinebdbzo: and as long as libGLES_qcom.so alloc region >= libgralloc's, it should be fine20:23
stinebdi think20:23
bzoactually, it's the other way around20:23
bzolibGLES will try to use up to 2f000020:23
bzoerr, or maybe not20:24
manekinekoit is pretty cool though I think that he builds a lot of interest in Android on our old HTC devices20:24
bzostinebd:either way, no reason not to make the values match, right?20:24
manekinekoI'd hate to see this whole thing fizzle out because people stopped caring20:24
stinebdbzo: i'm lazy20:25
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stinebdbzo: so that'd be 3008<<1020:37
stinebdright?20:37
stinebdstupid stupid <<10 crap they do20:38
stinebdoh look i have a calculator that does shifts20:39
stinebdneat20:39
bzono reason to express as a shift20:41
bzojust define it as 0x2F000020:41
stinebdno reason to use hex either20:41
stinebdi'm going with octal baby20:41
stinebdor maybe base 6420:42
stinebdbecause, hey, it's good enough for email attachments20:42
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manekinekois anyone around?23:15
manekinekoI'd like to ask a bit about how Android sets its DNS23:15
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