Friday, 2011-01-21

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Fudgehi01:31
Fudgeusing the new zImage and kern from jan 13 on the forum thread and my android is freezing up often with a solid red light. is this known?01:32
XirXeswhat thread and what device01:34
Fudgehtc tp201:34
XirXesf22s thread?01:34
Fudgeyes01:36
Fudgethought i should try the commit from jan 7, second post on the page01:36
XirXesI havent seen that behavior at all01:36
Fudgetried deleting my data personal settings and no change01:36
XirXesI dont think its known but someone will see it here01:37
Fudgeya :D01:41
Fudgeactually I just found a button below the camera on the tp2, is that a mute audio in a call button?01:41
Fudgeis it unusual for a basic data file to be 256mb01:45
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drcasperis there an evo support chann?01:58
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Fudgewm is stable, just tried rebooting and the wm/android boot loader froze also02:20
Fudgeis the xdandroid startup utility good way to go02:24
Fudgev1.3.102:25
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Fudgemm06:40
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TheDeadCPUHello arrrghhh08:05
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Fusion_hey guys i need help08:06
Fusion_i just installed xdandorid on a Sprint Touch Pro 208:07
Fusion_there are no service or what so ever...08:07
arrrghhhFusion_, force_cdma=?08:07
Fusion_how do i do that08:07
TheDeadCPUopen your startup.txt08:08
Fusion_do i go back to window 6.5 first?08:08
TheDeadCPUWell you kinda have to, seeing as you need to edit your startup08:08
arrrghhhindeed08:08
arrrghhhFusion_, did you read the FAQ...?08:08
Fusion_im looking08:09
Fusion_there was no setup wizard like others do08:09
TheDeadCPUPretty much searching CDMA in the first page of the thread would get you your answer.08:09
arrrghhhthere is no 'setup wizard'08:10
arrrghhhthis project is still just that - a project08:10
arrrghhhwe can work on noob-friendly when the bugs are squashed - which there's still quite a few.08:10
Fusion_ok im at startup txt08:12
Fusion_no force_cdma?08:12
arrrghhhyou don't have it?08:13
Fusion_no08:13
Fudgewhere do   u find the different startup.txt files?08:13
arrrghhhwell i'm sure you found that section in the faq08:13
arrrghhhyou just modify it08:13
Fudgeah08:13
arrrghhheasy08:13
TheDeadCPUbbl08:13
Fudgedamn thing keeps freezing on me arrrghhh08:13
Fusion_i dled the CAB - Android v2.2 Froyo: Reference08:13
Fudgenow lost my audio08:13
Fusion_i load the cab on my sd card08:14
Fusion_i installed it08:14
Fusion_and press haret.exe08:14
Fusion_and that was it08:14
arrrghhhFusion_, ok, you need to read.08:14
Fudgeits a good faq08:14
arrrghhhthere's A LOT of information about android08:14
arrrghhhit's very different from winmo08:14
arrrghhhand as i said previously, a lot of people complain about it's not easy...08:15
arrrghhhwell, we're still very actively developing on it08:15
arrrghhhso it changes quickly08:15
Fudgei like it08:18
Fudgeppl say give up on it08:18
Fudgebut i want to use it08:18
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arrrghhhlol i wouldn't say 'give up on it'08:19
arrrghhhi just say 'it's not ready to replace winmo at this stage' :P08:19
Fusion_what's so good about android anyway?08:19
arrrghhhsome ppl run it 100%, but i'm not quite there yet.  getting close... just depends on what you're willing to put up with08:19
arrrghhhFusion_, nothing, stick to winmo.08:19
Fusion_found it08:24
Fusion_the txt format was a mess08:24
arrrghhhwindows likes to screw up linux files, so be careful.08:25
arrrghhhmainly because the enter/carriage return different08:25
arrrghhhdifference*08:25
Fusion_okay time is correctly connected08:27
Fusion_ok it's working properly now08:27
Fusion_android is a bit laggy?08:28
Fudgeturn off some of your effects in settings\display08:28
arrrghhhand make a call to voicemail08:28
Fusion_the phone prompts me to enter gmail08:29
arrrghhhsounds stupid, but there's a bug out there that's pretty annoying.  basically a single process brings the processor to its knees08:29
arrrghhhwhen you make a call?08:29
Fusion_the phone still lags even after changing the display settings.08:36
Fusion_hm...08:36
arrrghhhFusion_, did you do what i said?08:37
Fusion_what08:38
Fusion_display setting right?08:38
Fusion_i changed to no animation08:38
arrrghhhthat's not what i said08:38
arrrghhhthat's what Fudge said08:38
Fusion_phone call to voice mail08:38
arrrghhhthere ya go08:38
Fusion_-_- freezed on phone menu08:40
arrrghhhyup08:41
arrrghhhjust get thru the mess08:41
arrrghhhget a phone call to voicemail08:41
arrrghhhit'll clear up08:41
arrrghhhdid i mention android is buggy on our phones at it's current stage and that heavy development is still occuring?08:42
arrrghhhyea, i did.  *sigh*, i wonder if the devs ever should've made this public.  but, i wouldn't have been able to use it, so i'm glad they did.08:42
Fusion_i still have a sim card attached to the phone08:42
Fusion_i should take that out08:43
arrrghhhif you're cdma08:43
arrrghhhyea08:43
Fusion_O_O08:44
Fusion_it's a sprint sim08:44
arrrghhhuhm08:44
arrrghhhsprint doesn't use SIMs08:44
Fusion_i know08:44
arrrghhhunless you mean int'l service08:44
Fusion_it has an ID though08:44
arrrghhhandroid is one or the other at the moment08:44
arrrghhhgsm or cdma.  doesn't do both.08:45
Fusion_i wonder if sprint knows that i took out the card08:45
arrrghhh...08:45
arrrghhhyou make my brain hurt08:45
Fusion_=)08:46
Fudgelol mate08:47
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Fusion_okay08:48
Fusion_no more playing08:48
Fusion_important question08:49
arrrghhhimportant answer08:49
Fusion_so if they release a new version of this android08:49
arrrghhhoh man i'm so late for work.  better ask quick08:49
Fusion_what's the upgrade process?08:49
Fusion_overwrites it? or start all over08:49
arrrghhhdepends on what you mean by new version08:50
arrrghhhthere's pieces that get updated08:50
arrrghhhand you can update those pieces08:50
arrrghhhsee xdandroid.com08:50
Fusion_update by pieces08:50
Fusion_i see08:50
Fusion_well then08:50
Fusion_good morning my friend08:50
arrrghhhyou can update by bundles08:50
arrrghhhbut those come out much, much less frequently.08:51
arrrghhhtime to go to work with the other underpants gnomes.08:51
Fusion_will my apps and contacts be saved if i upgrade from bundle08:51
arrrghhhdata.img saves all that mess08:51
arrrghhhpeace08:51
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arrrghhhKraln, hey man are you there?11:57
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arrrghhh_bah.  damn phone tether.12:16
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arrrghhhi might just have to stay off IRC... i don't want to drive people insane with constant signon/offs... damn tether connection.  it never actually drops the WAP, just drops me from IRC... bleh12:31
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, or stay on channels without a lot of people :P12:51
arrrghhhlol12:54
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XirXesarrrghhh your driving me insane with your constant sighon/offs!!!13:45
arrrghhhlol13:45
XirXeslol13:45
arrrghhhget me a mifi then13:45
XirXesno13:45
arrrghhh4g pls!13:45
arrrghhh:P13:45
arrrghhhi want to go throw a WAP on that external comcast cxn we have... but i also don't want to lose my job.13:45
XirXesi would love a mifi. i feel lost without intarnets13:45
XirXeswhy is there an external comcast cxn?13:46
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arrrghhhvendors13:53
arrrghhhwe don't want touching our network13:53
arrrghhhso we throw them on a residental-grade comcast cxn :P13:53
Kralnarrrghhh: ? yes14:00
arrrghhhhey man!14:00
arrrghhhyou mentioned donating a RHOD a few months back... yea?14:00
Kralnyeah, waiting for the windows 7 sprint phone14:00
arrrghhhoh so you're not ready to donate it yet?14:00
KralnI don't want to move up in rate plans, yet =/14:01
arrrghhhif not, no biggie.  i just wanted to make sure we didn't miss the opportunity.14:01
arrrghhhhaha, i feel your pain there.14:01
KralnI have a 27% discount on top of $30/m sero14:02
arrrghhhdamn14:02
XirXesthat is a steal14:06
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PeachPitHi, hi!14:55
PeachPitSomeone here? Does anyone knows if FRX03 2.2 works on rhod500, I tried to run it even with the Startup.txt of the rhod500, I'm on a CDMA networks n_n14:56
PeachPitI'll try this : I don't know about anyone else, but my RHOM500, hasn't tolerated the last few builds. It just freezes while booting into linux. I can take a picture of which code/line it crashes at if it'll be helpful. Uninstalling/reinstalling the program doesn't help. Try reformatting your SDCARD  Use this SD Formatter 3.0 (Beta) for SD/SDHC/SDXC - SD Association15:02
PeachPitu_u I guess i'll try random kernels ...15:04
XirXesPeachPit: it doesnt like your sd card. its a bug that was introduced into the kernel a few commits ago relating to clock code. i dont remember what the temp fix is15:21
XirXesit was something you could add to your startup.txt15:21
XirXestry this maybe "msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave"15:23
XirXeswithout the quotes.15:23
XirXesi got it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692. it babijoees xdandroid thread15:24
PeachPitThanks! I was already downloading Eclair u_u.... I'll try it!15:35
XirXesnp15:37
XirXesdid it work?15:50
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Fudgefunny question: is it possible in the music player by pushing something to mute audio across the hole android device?17:51
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stinebdno18:12
stinebdyou can, however, mute audio by bringing up the power menu18:12
stinebdlong press power key18:12
Fudgemaybe thats what i did18:17
Fudgeim looiking on xdandroid to find the rhodium startup.txt for my conf folder im using a froyo.user.conf, dont think thats right18:18
Fudgeis it ok to still use the 2.2 froyo blazen build with the latest jan 13 kernel and zImage?18:25
arrrghhhyea but i wouldn't18:38
Fudgeas its o/c'd or for some other reason18:40
arrrghhhit'd outdated18:42
arrrghhhyou can overclock any build with a change to the startup.txt18:42
arrrghhhit's*18:42
arrrghhhthere were quite a few changes to the system image since september 28...18:43
Fudgeim lost if im using the right conf/ file or not mate18:43
arrrghhhwhy18:43
arrrghhhyou should just use the one that comes with the bundle18:43
Fudgemy bro inlaw set this up initially18:45
Fudgei cant actually extract the cab18:45
arrrghhhcabs suck18:45
arrrghhhdon't use them18:45
Fudgeits a htc touch pro 2 as you know i am using but the /andboot/conf/froyo.user.conf is there and i thought it shoudl be rhodium18:45
arrrghhhjust grab the .rar builds18:45
arrrghhhno18:45
arrrghhhfroyo.user.conf is for froyo18:46
arrrghhhnothing device-specific there18:46
Fudgein about android it says 2.2.118:46
arrrghhhwe support many, many phones18:46
arrrghhhyes18:46
Fudgeso the startup.txt i should be making editions to is the one in andboot?18:46
arrrghhhyes18:46
arrrghhhis there another one?18:46
arrrghhhi mean there's a STARTUPS folder in some builds, but that's just if you have a different phone.18:47
Fudgeoh no, not just called startup.txt18:47
arrrghhhi'm confused.  what's your question?18:47
arrrghhhstinebd, want an engineering sample TP2?18:48
stinebddoes it work?18:48
arrrghhhwell he said there's issues with the newest kernel18:48
arrrghhh125318:48
arrrghhhand his new rhod works perfectly18:48
stinebdthen i'll take eight18:48
arrrghhhwhen acl committed the .35 fb, his phone stopped working.18:48
Fudgesry arrrghhh , how to o/c from startup.txt ill google the directives18:48
arrrghhh1233 was the first kernel that stopped workin on him.18:48
arrrghhhFudge, you want to overclock...?18:49
Fudgeyeah18:49
stinebdarrrghhh: will you be around in perhaps an hour or so to help test an frx04 ota package?18:49
Fudgeand how to send an echo to speech on boot to say like device ready as well18:49
arrrghhhstinebd, sure18:49
stinebdarrrghhh: thank you sir18:50
arrrghhhFudge, overclocking usually means less battery and less stability, but i'll show you how to do it.  also have no clue what you mean by send an echo to speech on boot...18:50
arrrghhhstinebd, anytime :D18:50
stinebdchanges are the hw3d stuff (dependent upon new rootfs which you'll also get to test) and upstream android changes (mostly security)18:50
arrrghhhnice18:50
arrrghhhso nuffin earth shattering for FRX04.  i guess they can't all be huge updates :P18:51
Fudgesuch as echo "device ready" | espeak18:51
arrrghhhFudge, can you do that when android is running?18:51
arrrghhhif you can, we might be able to pass something with the froyo.user.conf, but i doubt it.18:51
stinebdyeah nothing big. the gingerbread speedup thing i found was something that was in froyo and removed for ginger (to keep old msm7k configurations from working with ginger) so it doesn't apply for froyo18:52
arrrghhhah18:52
Fudgenot sure buddy18:52
Fudgei thought it runs stable then it freezes up and something new happens lol18:52
arrrghhhstinebd, so they intentionally break msm7k for ginger?  or am i just reading that wrong.18:52
stinebdarrrghhh: that pretty much seems to be the case18:53
arrrghhhFudge, ... no clue dude.  honestly this might not be a great solution for you presently.18:53
arrrghhhdamn...18:53
stinebdunless there's some internal, updated GL library that makes it work somehow18:53
arrrghhhhuh.  well that sucks.18:53
stinebdnot really, one git revert later and it's all back to working18:53
Fudgeits ok arrrghhh  i have a nokia i can fall back to, wish i could copy my sim somehow so i didnt have to swap it out all the time18:53
arrrghhhi saw dzo already pumped out a gb build for the vogue guys somehow.  i'm going to try to see if he has some free time to help us out, and if so i'm gonna try to get him a donor RHOD.18:54
arrrghhhstinebd, nice.  fix google's wagon good.18:54
stinebdi've been following dream/sapphire gingerbread development by a fellow named ezterry on github18:54
stinebdand of course cm for the build config changes18:55
arrrghhhoh yea18:56
stinebdi have to start looking through qaep repositories though18:56
stinebdsee what we might be able to pick out of there18:56
Fudgehey arrrghhh , heres a tough Q18:59
arrrghhhlol ok18:59
Fudgei cant read the model numbe rof my phone under the battery as suggested18:59
arrrghhhok18:59
Fudgeso is it a 210 or 400 etc18:59
arrrghhhyou're on tmobile?18:59
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Fudgewould you eb familiar with features i could check to determine19:00
Fudgeim in australia19:00
arrrghhhah crap19:00
Fudgea tasmanian to be exact19:00
arrrghhheither RHOD100 or RHOD110 if it's a 'native' phone to the area19:00
Fudgei believe it is an australian one19:00
Fudgeok think may have to ask someoen to read it, under the battery right?19:01
arrrghhhyea, i was just going to ask that.19:01
arrrghhhyup19:01
arrrghhhit's in tiny font, usually gray in color.19:01
arrrghhhmaking it that much harder to see19:02
FudgeloL19:02
Fudgethanx dude, appreciate your help19:02
Fudgebbs19:02
arrrghhhk19:02
arrrghhhstinebd, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10798226#post1079822619:02
arrrghhhthat's the thread where the guy mentions his ES is up for grabs.19:03
stinebddoes he work for a carrier or something?19:03
arrrghhhit's probably just related to that stupid AUO panel19:03
arrrghhhi have no clue how he got it honeslty.19:03
arrrghhhhonestly*19:03
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stinebdi've PMed him. thanks.19:09
stinebdthe frx04 build is underway19:10
arrrghhhschweet19:11
arrrghhhfor OTA, just a clean FRX03 image is all that is required, yes?19:11
stinebdyeah19:12
stinebdshould be ready before jello comes out19:12
arrrghhhcool.  i should be good to go.19:12
stinebdi'm considering busting open my nexus one bootloader and sticking gingerbread on it19:14
stinebdgetting sick of waiting19:14
arrrghhhsurprised they left that device behind19:15
arrrghhhi guess the S is gettin all the love.19:15
arrrghhhappears they're now getting a 2.3.2 update...19:15
arrrghhhjust some sms relay bug poop tho19:15
stinebdthat bug sucks19:16
stinebdi've hit it at least thrice19:16
arrrghhhdamn19:16
arrrghhhon your RAPH...?19:16
stinebdon my n119:16
arrrghhhoh i didn't think you had gb on that yet19:16
stinebdit applies to all versions19:16
arrrghhhdamn seriously?19:16
arrrghhhand they're just now fixing it?19:17
stinebdyeah...19:17
arrrghhhdon't tell me google is the new microsoft19:17
arrrghhhstealing other people's code and slapping a new license on it19:17
stinebdthey couldn't be bothered with it until all the blogs started whining about it19:17
arrrghhhtaking forever to fix simple things19:17
arrrghhhbah19:17
arrrghhhthey are turning into microsoft.19:17
arrrghhh"THIS KERNEL MAY NOT WORK ON YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT DESTROY YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT PUNCH YOUR CHILDREN, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED BY THIS KERNEL, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK"19:18
arrrghhhLMAO19:18
arrrghhhi want a kernel that punches children in the face19:19
stinebdF22: ping19:25
arrrghhhi think i angered the fighter jet.19:27
stinebda 550GB partition 86% full... time to start cleaning out those unused aosp trees19:29
arrrghhhdang man19:30
arrrghhhthat's all code?19:30
stinebdwell19:32
stinebdnot ALL code19:32
stinebdmost of it is object files :D19:32
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arrrghhhmadness19:33
Fudgearrrghhh  its a 110 mate19:36
arrrghhhnailed it19:36
arrrghhh:P19:36
arrrghhh110 is only sold in AU AFAIK19:36
Fudgehow coudl i tell which startup settings i have, if theyre right?19:38
Fudgeclock is 7x00 and pm_sleep is 2, so that would indicate it is overclocked?19:39
Fudgein which case may be explaining lockups19:39
arrrghhhFudge, sounds old, deprecated.  pastebin pls19:39
Fudgeok19:40
Fudgedoes this work http://pastebin.com/xNEVN1Zt19:44
arrrghhhextra enter keys19:46
arrrghhhlol silly windoze19:46
Fudgei dont use windows but my bro inlaw may have done when he set it up19:47
arrrghhhi wonder what keymap you should use19:47
arrrghhhyou have Tilt2, which is just plain wrong19:47
arrrghhhi'm thinking rhod100_uk is the same keymap19:47
Fudgehow does it effect the k/b?19:47
arrrghhhfunction key layout mostly19:47
Fudgeah19:48
Fudgei dont know what any of them do yet19:48
arrrghhhyou had the wrong one19:48
Fudgehavnt been able to find info19:48
arrrghhhso it probably wasn't working correctly19:48
Fudgei didnt see 110 in the list im reading19:48
arrrghhhcuz there's no need for that one19:48
arrrghhhonly like 3 ppl have it :P19:48
Fudgeon http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq19:48
arrrghhhi know19:48
Fudgeyup :)19:49
arrrghhhwe only realized there was a 110 just a few months ago, when some aussie stepped up and mentioned it.19:49
arrrghhhhere19:49
arrrghhhhttp://pastebin.com/wT5Xiw7D19:49
Fudgei can use that?19:49
arrrghhhcopy/paste that over your existing startup.txt19:49
arrrghhhit's still overclocked tho19:49
arrrghhhyou have a newer kernel too yes?19:49
Fudgeyes sir19:49
arrrghhhi changed the sleep_mode to =119:49
arrrghhhyou can do that w/the newer kernels.19:49
arrrghhhand still OC19:49
Fudgewhat does the sleep mode actually do ?19:50
arrrghhhlol you linky'd to the FAQ earlier19:52
arrrghhhit's in thar ;)19:52
Fudge716800 is the clock speed19:52
arrrghhhyea19:52
arrrghhhi left that in there19:52
arrrghhhso you're still overclocking19:52
Fudgeif i find it still locks up can i jsut pick a number like 60019:53
Fudgeor do u need to use a multiplyer fsb to work out clock speed19:53
arrrghhhFAQ has known good values19:53
arrrghhhif you want to not OC at all, just remove the line.19:53
Fudgeoh yep np19:54
Fudgei hadnt finished reading tha tpage :$19:54
arrrghhhhaha19:55
arrrghhhthere's a lot there19:55
arrrghhhi frequently reference it and search the page.19:55
arrrghhhlove FF's search.  i can't stand having to use IE to search pages.  it hurts.19:56
stinebdlmao https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/050638f94b14d279604a335f903e7609bf8275ef19:56
XirXeslol19:57
Fudgeyeah its nice19:58
arrrghhhgigglebread branch?20:00
stinebdbeard :D20:00
arrrghhhlmao20:00
arrrghhhdidn't notice that.20:00
arrrghhhholy cow that's a long page.20:01
Fudgeits ok to use fast boot right?20:01
arrrghhhwhat's fast boot?20:01
arrrghhhGen.Y?20:01
Fudgeyeah i think so20:02
arrrghhhwe don't support that20:02
arrrghhhdoesn't mean you can't use it, you're just on your own for support on that.  we've had this convo before.20:02
arrrghhhremember?  i just click haret.exe :P20:02
FudgeGen.Y DualBOOT WVGA v1.0.6.0 - Storage Card Rhodium.cab20:03
arrrghhhyou're on your own with that app my friend.20:03
Fudgeyes we have, thought you may have been familiar though20:03
arrrghhhnah, i don't use gen.y20:03
arrrghhhnot many here do AFAIK20:04
arrrghhhwe've never supported it, either way.20:04
Fudgenp20:11
stinebdarrrghhh: f22 put in a claim on that rhod20:13
XirXesI was reading the logs. need any more people testing frx04?20:13
arrrghhhlol i heard20:13
arrrghhhstinebd, he said he wanted it for NAND testing.  i think he'll relinquish to you tho.20:14
arrrghhhhe wanted to get into kernel dev more, and that phone is gonna need some kernel hackin to get up-to-date.20:14
stinebdwell if he's gonna do actual work on it, then it's probably better than what i would use it for20:14
arrrghhhlmao what?  cheese slicer?20:15
stinebdsending naughty pics to brett favre20:15
arrrghhhlmao20:16
arrrghhhnice.20:16
XirXesdoesnt the nexus 1 have a 5 mp cam?20:16
arrrghhhzing!20:16
stinebdgood question20:19
stinebdyup 5mp20:20
stinebdunexpected contingency!20:23
stinebdmy unpushed rootfs changes for gingerbread have broken froyo init20:23
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stinebdnow i'm glad i didn't push those20:24
arrrghhhas we like to say at work - no test like production!20:24
arrrghhhspeaking of which, i'm blowing up prod in a couple of hours... probably should prepare.20:25
Fudgeworkin nice now arrrghhh20:26
arrrghhhFudge, good to hear20:26
arrrghhh"My fear of mustard and pickles is ruining my life" <--- man i thought i had problems.20:30
stinebddoodeedoo20:32
stinebdi love new-release smell20:32
arrrghhhi want to run android full time so bad.  i think i'm just going to flash it and say screw it.20:47
arrrghhhif people can't get a hold of me, that's the price they pay for trying to get a hold of me.20:47
FudgeloL arrrghhh , can u actually flash it to your device though instead of booting from windblows?20:47
arrrghhhyes20:47
arrrghhhit's only a partial NAND flash technically20:47
arrrghhhbut winmo is gone... completely.20:47
Fudgenice20:48
stinebdwow wtf20:53
stinebdweird20:56
stinebdrandom missing file in my FRX03 system image was breaking the OTA20:56
stinebdi gotta stop tinkering20:56
arrrghhhbwhahaha20:57
arrrghhhgimmie gimmie!20:57
XirXesdoes that mean we cant OTA this update or was it local?20:57
stinebdit was just my image20:57
stinebdapparently i was playing around with it at some point20:57
XirXesoh lolwtf20:57
stinebdok i'm gonna push this rootfs stuff20:58
stinebdincluding gingerbread support20:58
stinebdso be prepared for mayhem20:58
arrrghhhwill the new rootfs work on froyo?20:58
stinebdhope so20:58
arrrghhhlol20:58
xdandroidNew rootfs available (20110122-6e6bf18) at: http://is.gd/OzuLnf -- Changes at: http://is.gd/ww7iHh21:03
arrrghhhand so it begins21:05
stinebdyou may see a lot of swooning on the forums21:11
arrrghhhlol21:11
stinebdbut it doesn't mean we're close to a release21:11
stinebdso...21:11
arrrghhhyou tease21:11
stinebdhttp://files.xdandroid.com/updates/update-FRX04.zip21:12
arrrghhhThe page isn't redirecting properl...?21:12
arrrghhher21:12
arrrghhhproperly21:12
stinebdhmm21:13
arrrghhhredirects to http://htcandroid.xland.cz/updates/update-FRX04.zip21:13
stinebdfixed21:14
arrrghhhgot it21:14
arrrghhhtime to try it21:14
stinebdTO THE CLOUD!21:16
XirXesdee deedle dee21:16
stinebdarrrghhh: got neocore?21:17
arrrghhhyea21:17
stinebdgood21:17
stinebdi'm not particularly interested in numbers. just need to know that it runs with hw3d21:18
arrrghhhbooting now21:18
stinebdupdated already?21:19
arrrghhhOoOo updating21:19
stinebdoh21:19
arrrghhhsorry first boot21:19
arrrghhhhrm.  little droid dude has an exclamation point, and seems kinda hung.21:19
stinebdthat means it failed21:19
arrrghhh:(21:19
arrrghhhi have the new rootfs21:19
arrrghhhdoes the data.img matter?21:20
stinebdno21:20
arrrghhhdidn't think so.21:20
arrrghhhwell i thought this was a clean frx03 image... pretty sure it is.  i'll doublecheck.21:20
stinebdsystem image should be up shortly anyway21:22
stinebdfew minutes21:22
arrrghhhnp21:22
XirXesmines almost done21:22
stinebdyours is actually working?21:23
XirXesyeah21:23
stinebdcrazy21:23
stinebdi was almost certain i used the wrong source target files for the ota21:23
XirXesjust filled the bar and rebooted21:23
arrrghhhheyhey21:23
arrrghhhmaybe my image isn't clean... hrm.  not sure what it's been tainted with.21:23
XirXesi use gen.y so ill be booting android shortly21:23
stinebdtinkering21:23
arrrghhhstinebd, all my tinkering resulted in a non-bootable image.21:24
arrrghhhso i couldn't leave it like that lol21:24
stinebdwell neocore works for me21:24
stinebdso thats a good sign21:24
arrrghhhgonna recopy a clean frx03 image just to see21:25
XirXesits booting normally. made it to splash21:26
Fudgehow would one go about changing colours? i.e light coloured foreground black background21:29
arrrghhhyea must've been that other image.  meh.21:29
arrrghhhprobably one i built, d'oh.  seems to be workin now.21:29
arrrghhhFudge, you can change the background image...?21:30
XirXeswas running slow at first. thought it was system_server again. but it wasnt21:30
XirXesabout phone says the build number is frx04. update went flawlessly. im still using the data.img ive been using for a few weeks21:31
XirXesand it seems pretty fast but that will be something determined over time21:32
arrrghhhnice.  booting now from the successful update.21:32
arrrghhhi guess i should install gen.y21:32
arrrghhhi get so sick of waiting for sense to finish crapping itself.21:32
stinebdyeah i turned sense off totally21:33
XirXesthat was my motivator21:33
stinebdsince i don't actually use the raph21:33
XirXesim excited for my g221:33
stinebdunfortunately this is a first-gen fuze with the wonky sd slot so autobooting into haret is not feasible for me :(21:33
arrrghhhXirXes, was your logo flickering at first?21:34
arrrghhhboot logo21:34
stinebdi have to do the insert-eject dance about 5 times before it's finally recognized21:34
XirXesyeah21:34
stinebdmine too21:34
arrrghhhhrm21:34
arrrghhhi wonder if acl gave you the wrong ones :P21:34
stinebdhmm21:35
stinebdnow that you mention it21:35
stinebdEVERYBODY BACK TO FRX0321:35
arrrghhhlol21:35
XirXesit doesnt seem any faster graphicly but it does seem smoother moving around the os21:35
stinebdseriously21:36
stinebdeverybody back to frx0321:36
stinebdi forgot to unzip-files21:37
arrrghhhnice21:37
XirXesneocore actually looks pretty smooth21:38
stinebdXirXes: what's your device?21:38
arrrghhhRHOD21021:38
XirXesrhod21:38
stinebdok21:39
stinebdsurprised it even works21:39
arrrghhhi see frx04 in my build #21:39
stinebdthat frx04 is no good21:39
stinebdhas the old libGLES_qcom21:39
arrrghhhd'oh21:39
XirXesit says 17.5 fps21:39
arrrghhhnew gralloc tho?21:39
stinebdyeah21:39
XirXeswill i be able to update to a new frx04?21:40
stinebdnah21:40
XirXesthought so21:41
arrrghhhyou'll have to start with another clean frx03 image21:41
arrrghhhor just download a frx04 image when it's out & proper :P21:41
arrrghhhstinebd, gingerbread looks a lot like froyo :/21:42
XirXesdo you think i would be able to revert just the system.ext2?21:42
stinebdlol21:42
stinebdyou can stick an old frx03 system.ext2 in there, yeah21:42
stinebdand then ota again21:42
XirXesnice21:42
arrrghhhindeed21:43
stinebdlol the stolen java code21:43
XirXesi like how modular xdandroid is. thats why i havent use neopeek21:43
stinebdit's all unit tests21:43
stinebdsee microsoft is evil, google is just dumb21:43
arrrghhhlol21:43
arrrghhhthat is pretty dumb21:44
XirXesi think google did it on purpose21:44
XirXespicking a fight21:44
arrrghhhoracle's got the cash to go after 'em too21:44
XirXesi believe it21:44
arrrghhhthey only paid their CEO $1 last year.21:44
stinebdi wonder what the taxes are on that21:45
stinebd$.40?21:45
arrrghhhdown from $70.1 million in 2009?21:45
arrrghhhi think he's getting audited for sure.21:45
XirXesI made more money than oracles CEO last year!! only barely but still its someone21:45
XirXeslol21:46
arrrghhhsorry21:46
arrrghhhOn August 22, 2009, it was reported that Ellison would be paid only $1 for his base salary for the fiscal year of 2010, down from the $1,000,000 he was paid in fiscal 200921:46
arrrghhh$1 million was his 'base salary'.21:46
arrrghhhhe made $70.1 million in 2009 with bonuses and what-not.  holy FUCK!21:46
XirXeswow21:47
arrrghhhHis entertainment system cost $1 million, and includes a rock concert-sized video projector at one end of a drained swimming pool, using the gaping hole as a giant subwoofer.21:49
arrrghhhtalk about adding insult to injury.  i hate this guy.21:50
arrrghhhand yet i want to be him.21:50
XirXeslol21:50
XirXesi want to eat21:50
arrrghhhhahaha seriously.21:51
arrrghhhi keep thinking i should pay for titanium backup21:55
arrrghhhbut $6?  i'd pay $3...21:55
arrrghhheverytime i do a restore i think "man... i should buy this"21:56
arrrghhhthen i see that it's $6, and i probably won't be restoring a lot when i get a native android phone (whenever that happens)21:56
XirXesyou can still use a script to restore all21:56
arrrghhheh?22:03
XirXesits buryed in the app somewhere. i dont remember where but its there22:03
arrrghhhso in the free version i don't have to go thru all the "install" "done" buttons?22:07
arrrghhhthat's really the only downfall of the free version... i mean they gotta have something in the paid for version :P22:08
XirXesyou still do but you start them all at once22:08
XirXesso right after one finishes the next one starts22:08
stinebdhttp://files.xdandroid.com/updates/update-FRX04.zip22:09
XirXesupdating now22:11
arrrghhhXirXes, are you just talking about the batch operations...?22:12
XirXesyeah thats it. i guess. idk. i stoped caring about restoring my things. if i need to wipe my data then oh well22:13
XirXesjust rebooted22:13
arrrghhhhaha22:13
arrrghhhi didn't care for the longest time22:13
arrrghhhthen i started to get used to certain apps...22:13
XirXesi think my wifi aps are backed up tho22:13
arrrghhhha, i never use wifi22:14
arrrghhh'cept for tethering22:14
XirXeslol22:14
XirXeswhich apearently sucks22:14
arrrghhhit's better than winmo's22:14
stinebdi always have wifi. i'm on at&t22:14
arrrghhhHA22:14
arrrghhhi always have wifi.  i just don't care.22:14
XirXesbootloop on anim22:22
F22stinebd: pong22:24
arrrghhhXirXes, ha now i have a gen.y question.  i see there's registry entries if you want it to be andboot or root - isn't there an option to have a custom path?22:27
arrrghhhnvm ignore me.22:27
stinebdF22: i asked that guy about the rhodium and he said you'd like to use it for development. it's all yours if you want it.22:27
F22stinebd: i was about to say the same to you.22:28
arrrghhhfight for it!22:28
arrrghhhcagematch22:29
arrrghhhfor the RHOD22:29
stinebdlol avg antivirus for android22:30
arrrghhhnice22:32
arrrghhhman, i don't know why i haven't used gen.y before.  that was way too easy.22:32
F22stinebd: there are actually two donor rhod's available right now and the other one is of less use to me.  i suppose it depends on whether or not being able to use it with your carrier matters to you. it's a t-mo, so it will work with at&t once the kernel issues are ironed out, just not the 3g. the other one is a 400, so it's cdma and no oddball kernel issues, but won't work with at&t..22:32
arrrghhhit'll work with at&t22:32
stinebdi thought they're all world phones22:32
arrrghhh400&500 is a 'world phone'22:32
arrrghhhyea22:32
F22ahhh...shows how familiar i am with the 400. lol.22:33
arrrghhh:P22:33
arrrghhhto be fair, i do have one.22:33
arrrghhhsprint still sells the bitch for $200 on a 2yr contract.22:33
arrrghhhstinebd, no flicker in the boot logo22:33
F22so both of them are possibilities then.22:33
arrrghhhcrap, forgot to remove the update.zip.  i guess i couldn't really with gen.y22:33
stinebdangry birds successfully installed22:34
arrrghhhlol22:34
stinebdarrrghhh: the updater should remove it22:34
arrrghhhoh cool22:34
arrrghhhnot sure if i'm in a bootloop yet.22:34
stinebdi didn't get a bootloop22:35
arrrghhhnope22:35
arrrghhhbooted22:35
arrrghhhno loopie22:35
stinebdangry birds is slow as crap22:36
stinebdi want my money back22:37
arrrghhhfine...22:37
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stinebdis it me or does the new neocore not install a launcher icon?22:38
F22just you ;)22:38
F22unless there is a newer one than i have.22:38
stinebdgot it from market22:38
F22i'll pull out my phone and see if there is a newer version available.22:38
stinebdprobably some stupid launcher bug or something22:39
arrrghhhi've had it where the app drawer doesn't necessairly show all the apps22:39
stinebdit shows up in the applications submenu when you long tap on the home screen and hit add a shortcut22:39
arrrghhhyou blamed it on android being too fast for our devices lol22:39
arrrghhhyup, i remember reporting that exact issue  to ya before.22:39
stinebdwas it neocore?22:39
arrrghhhhell i think that was back when i had a RAPH22:39
arrrghhhnope22:39
arrrghhhit was a ton of apps missing when i originally reported it22:40
arrrghhhlike i would open the app drawer and literally 7 things were in there22:40
arrrghhhi was missing a ton of crap22:40
arrrghhhit's not consistently reproducible.22:40
stinebdjust neocore for me22:40
stinebdangry birds is there22:40
stinebdand rockbox22:40
stinebdangry birds needs to not be there22:41
arrrghhhUH-OH, not sure what happened. I reformated my SD card to do a new run since I found what I wanted. Now it seems like I can do everything but make calls in WM6.5. What do I do22:41
arrrghhhi love posts like that.22:41
arrrghhhjust installed neocore from the market22:42
arrrghhhevidently i didn't have that one backed up22:42
F22market doesn't tell me there's an update for neocore, so it must still be the latest. and i did download it from the market originally too.22:42
arrrghhhand i get an icon in mah app drawer22:42
stinebdcool22:43
stinebd<3 android22:43
arrrghhhuser-error22:43
F22i haven't updated anything tonight though.22:43
arrrghhhwhat were you thinking22:43
arrrghhh20.2 fps22:44
arrrghhhno audio22:44
F22that's what i generally get with no audio too.22:44
stinebdhey there it is22:44
stinebdforce stopping launcher and restarting it made it show up22:44
arrrghhhmagic22:44
F22no doubt raph will do better. vogue gets like 36-37 fps.22:45
stinebdraph is 17.0 with audio22:45
F22same as rhod. i'd have thought it would be better, fewer pixels.22:45
arrrghhhraph just sucks that hard22:45
stinebdclearly the bottleneck is elsewhere22:45
arrrghhhwell what's fun is22:45
arrrghhhrun that fps2d22:45
arrrghhhwith the screen off22:46
arrrghhhyou'll poop your pants22:46
stinebdwhy would you run it with the screen off?22:46
arrrghhhcuz the score skyrockets lol22:46
stinebdof course it does22:46
stinebdthe panel is suspended22:46
arrrghhhtoastfch or whatever said that meant we're hitting some limit22:46
arrrghhhdunno22:46
arrrghhhthat 30fps limit on evo22:46
stinebddoubt it22:47
arrrghhhhe was showing the commits they made, and then the commits HTC made to improve on it22:47
stinebdyou'd see that behavior in winmo too22:47
F22we get an average of 30fps, but there are a few that hit 50 fps if logcat is to be believed.22:47
arrrghhhnever tested it in winmo22:47
stinebddon't need tests22:48
arrrghhhF22, and it usually averages out to around 50 with the screen off as i recall22:48
arrrghhhstill seem to be hitting a bottleneck somewhere for sure.22:48
stinebdi bet i could get the score up to at least 9001 if we don't have to worry about screens22:48
F22yes, that's what i've heard too, haven't gotten around to trying that academic excercise myself.22:48
arrrghhhwinmo really doesn't push this hardware22:48
arrrghhhstinebd, do eeeeeeet22:49
F22arrrghhh, phone's utility isn't quite the same without the screen... ;)22:49
arrrghhhbah22:50
arrrghhhwe don't need no stinking screens22:50
F22stinebd: i think i'm going to arrange for you to get the 400 instead since it sounds to me like it's all the same to you.23:03
stinebdF22: whichever one you don't want i'll take23:04
arrrghhhyea, then you get to have some fun kernel hacking on that AUO panel F22 ;)23:04
F22that and all the nand dev work is on cdma right now.23:05
arrrghhh:D23:05
arrrghhhfer once we're ahead at something!  woot!23:06
arrrghhhFRX04 seems good23:10
F22stinebd: ok. sounds good. i'll see if i can redirect the other donor into sending his to you. if he's already shipped it, i'll ship it you myself once i get it.  you're not very far away from me, so that shouldn't take long at all.23:14
F22stinebd: you were already on the short list of potential good homes for that 400 as it was. i wasn't planning on keeping that one.23:14
F22Fudge: Btw, did you ever check your rhodium model? do you have a 110?23:18
stinebdF22: thanks23:21
stinebdFRX04 announcement is going out now23:21
TheDeadCPUaww shit23:22
* TheDeadCPU hides23:22
arrrghhhF22, yea it's a 11023:28
stinebdahhaha23:32
stinebdstupid voice input censorship23:32
arrrghhhyou can turn that off23:32
arrrghhhi lol'd first time i saw it too.23:32
F22if he's willing to either get me a pic or grab a link to the manual off htc's site i can compare it for diffs with the 100_uk, and if the diffs are minor i can make him a keymap pretty quick. i expect they will be minor at most, possibly even identical as you suspect.  the test rootfs is just about ready to go out, i'm actually working on making keyboard selection in the init script a bit more efficient right now, in some cases it will do ov23:37
F22eventuall i want to move that into the framework as per the earlier discussion with stinebd, alex & phh. but i'll look at that after i push this out.23:38
F22although if i recall correctly, stinebd wasn't certain that could be done without a reboot.23:39
arrrghhhsounds good23:42

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