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Fudge | hi | 01:31 |
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Fudge | using the new zImage and kern from jan 13 on the forum thread and my android is freezing up often with a solid red light. is this known? | 01:32 |
XirXes | what thread and what device | 01:34 |
Fudge | htc tp2 | 01:34 |
XirXes | f22s thread? | 01:34 |
Fudge | yes | 01:36 |
Fudge | thought i should try the commit from jan 7, second post on the page | 01:36 |
XirXes | I havent seen that behavior at all | 01:36 |
Fudge | tried deleting my data personal settings and no change | 01:36 |
XirXes | I dont think its known but someone will see it here | 01:37 |
Fudge | ya :D | 01:41 |
Fudge | actually I just found a button below the camera on the tp2, is that a mute audio in a call button? | 01:41 |
Fudge | is it unusual for a basic data file to be 256mb | 01:45 |
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drcasper | is there an evo support chann? | 01:58 |
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Fudge | wm is stable, just tried rebooting and the wm/android boot loader froze also | 02:20 |
Fudge | is the xdandroid startup utility good way to go | 02:24 |
Fudge | v1.3.1 | 02:25 |
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Fudge | mm | 06:40 |
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TheDeadCPU | Hello arrrghhh | 08:05 |
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Fusion_ | hey guys i need help | 08:06 |
Fusion_ | i just installed xdandorid on a Sprint Touch Pro 2 | 08:07 |
Fusion_ | there are no service or what so ever... | 08:07 |
arrrghhh | Fusion_, force_cdma=? | 08:07 |
Fusion_ | how do i do that | 08:07 |
TheDeadCPU | open your startup.txt | 08:08 |
Fusion_ | do i go back to window 6.5 first? | 08:08 |
TheDeadCPU | Well you kinda have to, seeing as you need to edit your startup | 08:08 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 08:08 |
arrrghhh | Fusion_, did you read the FAQ...? | 08:08 |
Fusion_ | im looking | 08:09 |
Fusion_ | there was no setup wizard like others do | 08:09 |
TheDeadCPU | Pretty much searching CDMA in the first page of the thread would get you your answer. | 08:09 |
arrrghhh | there is no 'setup wizard' | 08:10 |
arrrghhh | this project is still just that - a project | 08:10 |
arrrghhh | we can work on noob-friendly when the bugs are squashed - which there's still quite a few. | 08:10 |
Fusion_ | ok im at startup txt | 08:12 |
Fusion_ | no force_cdma? | 08:12 |
arrrghhh | you don't have it? | 08:13 |
Fusion_ | no | 08:13 |
Fudge | where do u find the different startup.txt files? | 08:13 |
arrrghhh | well i'm sure you found that section in the faq | 08:13 |
arrrghhh | you just modify it | 08:13 |
Fudge | ah | 08:13 |
arrrghhh | easy | 08:13 |
TheDeadCPU | bbl | 08:13 |
Fudge | damn thing keeps freezing on me arrrghhh | 08:13 |
Fusion_ | i dled the CAB - Android v2.2 Froyo: Reference | 08:13 |
Fudge | now lost my audio | 08:13 |
Fusion_ | i load the cab on my sd card | 08:14 |
Fusion_ | i installed it | 08:14 |
Fusion_ | and press haret.exe | 08:14 |
Fusion_ | and that was it | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | Fusion_, ok, you need to read. | 08:14 |
Fudge | its a good faq | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | there's A LOT of information about android | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | it's very different from winmo | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | and as i said previously, a lot of people complain about it's not easy... | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | well, we're still very actively developing on it | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | so it changes quickly | 08:15 |
Fudge | i like it | 08:18 |
Fudge | ppl say give up on it | 08:18 |
Fudge | but i want to use it | 08:18 |
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arrrghhh | lol i wouldn't say 'give up on it' | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | i just say 'it's not ready to replace winmo at this stage' :P | 08:19 |
Fusion_ | what's so good about android anyway? | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | some ppl run it 100%, but i'm not quite there yet. getting close... just depends on what you're willing to put up with | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | Fusion_, nothing, stick to winmo. | 08:19 |
Fusion_ | found it | 08:24 |
Fusion_ | the txt format was a mess | 08:24 |
arrrghhh | windows likes to screw up linux files, so be careful. | 08:25 |
arrrghhh | mainly because the enter/carriage return different | 08:25 |
arrrghhh | difference* | 08:25 |
Fusion_ | okay time is correctly connected | 08:27 |
Fusion_ | ok it's working properly now | 08:27 |
Fusion_ | android is a bit laggy? | 08:28 |
Fudge | turn off some of your effects in settings\display | 08:28 |
arrrghhh | and make a call to voicemail | 08:28 |
Fusion_ | the phone prompts me to enter gmail | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | sounds stupid, but there's a bug out there that's pretty annoying. basically a single process brings the processor to its knees | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | when you make a call? | 08:29 |
Fusion_ | the phone still lags even after changing the display settings. | 08:36 |
Fusion_ | hm... | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | Fusion_, did you do what i said? | 08:37 |
Fusion_ | what | 08:38 |
Fusion_ | display setting right? | 08:38 |
Fusion_ | i changed to no animation | 08:38 |
arrrghhh | that's not what i said | 08:38 |
arrrghhh | that's what Fudge said | 08:38 |
Fusion_ | phone call to voice mail | 08:38 |
arrrghhh | there ya go | 08:38 |
Fusion_ | -_- freezed on phone menu | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | yup | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | just get thru the mess | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | get a phone call to voicemail | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | it'll clear up | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | did i mention android is buggy on our phones at it's current stage and that heavy development is still occuring? | 08:42 |
arrrghhh | yea, i did. *sigh*, i wonder if the devs ever should've made this public. but, i wouldn't have been able to use it, so i'm glad they did. | 08:42 |
Fusion_ | i still have a sim card attached to the phone | 08:42 |
Fusion_ | i should take that out | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | if you're cdma | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | yea | 08:43 |
Fusion_ | O_O | 08:44 |
Fusion_ | it's a sprint sim | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | sprint doesn't use SIMs | 08:44 |
Fusion_ | i know | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | unless you mean int'l service | 08:44 |
Fusion_ | it has an ID though | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | android is one or the other at the moment | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | gsm or cdma. doesn't do both. | 08:45 |
Fusion_ | i wonder if sprint knows that i took out the card | 08:45 |
arrrghhh | ... | 08:45 |
arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt | 08:45 |
Fusion_ | =) | 08:46 |
Fudge | lol mate | 08:47 |
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Fusion_ | okay | 08:48 |
Fusion_ | no more playing | 08:48 |
Fusion_ | important question | 08:49 |
arrrghhh | important answer | 08:49 |
Fusion_ | so if they release a new version of this android | 08:49 |
arrrghhh | oh man i'm so late for work. better ask quick | 08:49 |
Fusion_ | what's the upgrade process? | 08:49 |
Fusion_ | overwrites it? or start all over | 08:49 |
arrrghhh | depends on what you mean by new version | 08:50 |
arrrghhh | there's pieces that get updated | 08:50 |
arrrghhh | and you can update those pieces | 08:50 |
arrrghhh | see xdandroid.com | 08:50 |
Fusion_ | update by pieces | 08:50 |
Fusion_ | i see | 08:50 |
Fusion_ | well then | 08:50 |
Fusion_ | good morning my friend | 08:50 |
arrrghhh | you can update by bundles | 08:50 |
arrrghhh | but those come out much, much less frequently. | 08:51 |
arrrghhh | time to go to work with the other underpants gnomes. | 08:51 |
Fusion_ | will my apps and contacts be saved if i upgrade from bundle | 08:51 |
arrrghhh | data.img saves all that mess | 08:51 |
arrrghhh | peace | 08:51 |
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arrrghhh | Kraln, hey man are you there? | 11:57 |
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arrrghhh_ | bah. damn phone tether. | 12:16 |
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arrrghhh | i might just have to stay off IRC... i don't want to drive people insane with constant signon/offs... damn tether connection. it never actually drops the WAP, just drops me from IRC... bleh | 12:31 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, or stay on channels without a lot of people :P | 12:51 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:54 |
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XirXes | arrrghhh your driving me insane with your constant sighon/offs!!! | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:45 |
XirXes | lol | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | get me a mifi then | 13:45 |
XirXes | no | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | 4g pls! | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | :P | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | i want to go throw a WAP on that external comcast cxn we have... but i also don't want to lose my job. | 13:45 |
XirXes | i would love a mifi. i feel lost without intarnets | 13:45 |
XirXes | why is there an external comcast cxn? | 13:46 |
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arrrghhh | vendors | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | we don't want touching our network | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | so we throw them on a residental-grade comcast cxn :P | 13:53 |
Kraln | arrrghhh: ? yes | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | hey man! | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | you mentioned donating a RHOD a few months back... yea? | 14:00 |
Kraln | yeah, waiting for the windows 7 sprint phone | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | oh so you're not ready to donate it yet? | 14:00 |
Kraln | I don't want to move up in rate plans, yet =/ | 14:01 |
arrrghhh | if not, no biggie. i just wanted to make sure we didn't miss the opportunity. | 14:01 |
arrrghhh | haha, i feel your pain there. | 14:01 |
Kraln | I have a 27% discount on top of $30/m sero | 14:02 |
arrrghhh | damn | 14:02 |
XirXes | that is a steal | 14:06 |
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PeachPit | Hi, hi! | 14:55 |
PeachPit | Someone here? Does anyone knows if FRX03 2.2 works on rhod500, I tried to run it even with the Startup.txt of the rhod500, I'm on a CDMA networks n_n | 14:56 |
PeachPit | I'll try this : I don't know about anyone else, but my RHOM500, hasn't tolerated the last few builds. It just freezes while booting into linux. I can take a picture of which code/line it crashes at if it'll be helpful. Uninstalling/reinstalling the program doesn't help. Try reformatting your SDCARD Use this SD Formatter 3.0 (Beta) for SD/SDHC/SDXC - SD Association | 15:02 |
PeachPit | u_u I guess i'll try random kernels ... | 15:04 |
XirXes | PeachPit: it doesnt like your sd card. its a bug that was introduced into the kernel a few commits ago relating to clock code. i dont remember what the temp fix is | 15:21 |
XirXes | it was something you could add to your startup.txt | 15:21 |
XirXes | try this maybe "msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave" | 15:23 |
XirXes | without the quotes. | 15:23 |
XirXes | i got it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692. it babijoees xdandroid thread | 15:24 |
PeachPit | Thanks! I was already downloading Eclair u_u.... I'll try it! | 15:35 |
XirXes | np | 15:37 |
XirXes | did it work? | 15:50 |
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Fudge | funny question: is it possible in the music player by pushing something to mute audio across the hole android device? | 17:51 |
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stinebd | no | 18:12 |
stinebd | you can, however, mute audio by bringing up the power menu | 18:12 |
stinebd | long press power key | 18:12 |
Fudge | maybe thats what i did | 18:17 |
Fudge | im looiking on xdandroid to find the rhodium startup.txt for my conf folder im using a froyo.user.conf, dont think thats right | 18:18 |
Fudge | is it ok to still use the 2.2 froyo blazen build with the latest jan 13 kernel and zImage? | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | yea but i wouldn't | 18:38 |
Fudge | as its o/c'd or for some other reason | 18:40 |
arrrghhh | it'd outdated | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | you can overclock any build with a change to the startup.txt | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | it's* | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | there were quite a few changes to the system image since september 28... | 18:43 |
Fudge | im lost if im using the right conf/ file or not mate | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | why | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | you should just use the one that comes with the bundle | 18:43 |
Fudge | my bro inlaw set this up initially | 18:45 |
Fudge | i cant actually extract the cab | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | cabs suck | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | don't use them | 18:45 |
Fudge | its a htc touch pro 2 as you know i am using but the /andboot/conf/froyo.user.conf is there and i thought it shoudl be rhodium | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | just grab the .rar builds | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | no | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | froyo.user.conf is for froyo | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | nothing device-specific there | 18:46 |
Fudge | in about android it says 2.2.1 | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | we support many, many phones | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | yes | 18:46 |
Fudge | so the startup.txt i should be making editions to is the one in andboot? | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | yes | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | is there another one? | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | i mean there's a STARTUPS folder in some builds, but that's just if you have a different phone. | 18:47 |
Fudge | oh no, not just called startup.txt | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | i'm confused. what's your question? | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, want an engineering sample TP2? | 18:48 |
stinebd | does it work? | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | well he said there's issues with the newest kernel | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | 1253 | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | and his new rhod works perfectly | 18:48 |
stinebd | then i'll take eight | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | when acl committed the .35 fb, his phone stopped working. | 18:48 |
Fudge | sry arrrghhh , how to o/c from startup.txt ill google the directives | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | 1233 was the first kernel that stopped workin on him. | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, you want to overclock...? | 18:49 |
Fudge | yeah | 18:49 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: will you be around in perhaps an hour or so to help test an frx04 ota package? | 18:49 |
Fudge | and how to send an echo to speech on boot to say like device ready as well | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, sure | 18:49 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: thank you sir | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, overclocking usually means less battery and less stability, but i'll show you how to do it. also have no clue what you mean by send an echo to speech on boot... | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, anytime :D | 18:50 |
stinebd | changes are the hw3d stuff (dependent upon new rootfs which you'll also get to test) and upstream android changes (mostly security) | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | nice | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | so nuffin earth shattering for FRX04. i guess they can't all be huge updates :P | 18:51 |
Fudge | such as echo "device ready" | espeak | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, can you do that when android is running? | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | if you can, we might be able to pass something with the froyo.user.conf, but i doubt it. | 18:51 |
stinebd | yeah nothing big. the gingerbread speedup thing i found was something that was in froyo and removed for ginger (to keep old msm7k configurations from working with ginger) so it doesn't apply for froyo | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | ah | 18:52 |
Fudge | not sure buddy | 18:52 |
Fudge | i thought it runs stable then it freezes up and something new happens lol | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, so they intentionally break msm7k for ginger? or am i just reading that wrong. | 18:52 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: that pretty much seems to be the case | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, ... no clue dude. honestly this might not be a great solution for you presently. | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | damn... | 18:53 |
stinebd | unless there's some internal, updated GL library that makes it work somehow | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | huh. well that sucks. | 18:53 |
stinebd | not really, one git revert later and it's all back to working | 18:53 |
Fudge | its ok arrrghhh i have a nokia i can fall back to, wish i could copy my sim somehow so i didnt have to swap it out all the time | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | i saw dzo already pumped out a gb build for the vogue guys somehow. i'm going to try to see if he has some free time to help us out, and if so i'm gonna try to get him a donor RHOD. | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, nice. fix google's wagon good. | 18:54 |
stinebd | i've been following dream/sapphire gingerbread development by a fellow named ezterry on github | 18:54 |
stinebd | and of course cm for the build config changes | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | oh yea | 18:56 |
stinebd | i have to start looking through qaep repositories though | 18:56 |
stinebd | see what we might be able to pick out of there | 18:56 |
Fudge | hey arrrghhh , heres a tough Q | 18:59 |
arrrghhh | lol ok | 18:59 |
Fudge | i cant read the model numbe rof my phone under the battery as suggested | 18:59 |
arrrghhh | ok | 18:59 |
Fudge | so is it a 210 or 400 etc | 18:59 |
arrrghhh | you're on tmobile? | 18:59 |
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Fudge | would you eb familiar with features i could check to determine | 19:00 |
Fudge | im in australia | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | ah crap | 19:00 |
Fudge | a tasmanian to be exact | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | either RHOD100 or RHOD110 if it's a 'native' phone to the area | 19:00 |
Fudge | i believe it is an australian one | 19:00 |
Fudge | ok think may have to ask someoen to read it, under the battery right? | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | yea, i was just going to ask that. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | yup | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | it's in tiny font, usually gray in color. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | making it that much harder to see | 19:02 |
Fudge | loL | 19:02 |
Fudge | thanx dude, appreciate your help | 19:02 |
Fudge | bbs | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | k | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10798226#post10798226 | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | that's the thread where the guy mentions his ES is up for grabs. | 19:03 |
stinebd | does he work for a carrier or something? | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | it's probably just related to that stupid AUO panel | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | i have no clue how he got it honeslty. | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | honestly* | 19:03 |
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stinebd | i've PMed him. thanks. | 19:09 |
stinebd | the frx04 build is underway | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | schweet | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | for OTA, just a clean FRX03 image is all that is required, yes? | 19:11 |
stinebd | yeah | 19:12 |
stinebd | should be ready before jello comes out | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | cool. i should be good to go. | 19:12 |
stinebd | i'm considering busting open my nexus one bootloader and sticking gingerbread on it | 19:14 |
stinebd | getting sick of waiting | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | surprised they left that device behind | 19:15 |
arrrghhh | i guess the S is gettin all the love. | 19:15 |
arrrghhh | appears they're now getting a 2.3.2 update... | 19:15 |
arrrghhh | just some sms relay bug poop tho | 19:15 |
stinebd | that bug sucks | 19:16 |
stinebd | i've hit it at least thrice | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | damn | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | on your RAPH...? | 19:16 |
stinebd | on my n1 | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | oh i didn't think you had gb on that yet | 19:16 |
stinebd | it applies to all versions | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | damn seriously? | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | and they're just now fixing it? | 19:17 |
stinebd | yeah... | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | don't tell me google is the new microsoft | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | stealing other people's code and slapping a new license on it | 19:17 |
stinebd | they couldn't be bothered with it until all the blogs started whining about it | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | taking forever to fix simple things | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | bah | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | they are turning into microsoft. | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | "THIS KERNEL MAY NOT WORK ON YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT DESTROY YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT PUNCH YOUR CHILDREN, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED BY THIS KERNEL, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" | 19:18 |
arrrghhh | LMAO | 19:18 |
arrrghhh | i want a kernel that punches children in the face | 19:19 |
stinebd | F22: ping | 19:25 |
arrrghhh | i think i angered the fighter jet. | 19:27 |
stinebd | a 550GB partition 86% full... time to start cleaning out those unused aosp trees | 19:29 |
arrrghhh | dang man | 19:30 |
arrrghhh | that's all code? | 19:30 |
stinebd | well | 19:32 |
stinebd | not ALL code | 19:32 |
stinebd | most of it is object files :D | 19:32 |
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arrrghhh | madness | 19:33 |
Fudge | arrrghhh its a 110 mate | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | nailed it | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | :P | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | 110 is only sold in AU AFAIK | 19:36 |
Fudge | how coudl i tell which startup settings i have, if theyre right? | 19:38 |
Fudge | clock is 7x00 and pm_sleep is 2, so that would indicate it is overclocked? | 19:39 |
Fudge | in which case may be explaining lockups | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, sounds old, deprecated. pastebin pls | 19:39 |
Fudge | ok | 19:40 |
Fudge | does this work http://pastebin.com/xNEVN1Zt | 19:44 |
arrrghhh | extra enter keys | 19:46 |
arrrghhh | lol silly windoze | 19:46 |
Fudge | i dont use windows but my bro inlaw may have done when he set it up | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | i wonder what keymap you should use | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | you have Tilt2, which is just plain wrong | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | i'm thinking rhod100_uk is the same keymap | 19:47 |
Fudge | how does it effect the k/b? | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | function key layout mostly | 19:47 |
Fudge | ah | 19:48 |
Fudge | i dont know what any of them do yet | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | you had the wrong one | 19:48 |
Fudge | havnt been able to find info | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | so it probably wasn't working correctly | 19:48 |
Fudge | i didnt see 110 in the list im reading | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | cuz there's no need for that one | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | only like 3 ppl have it :P | 19:48 |
Fudge | on http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | i know | 19:48 |
Fudge | yup :) | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | we only realized there was a 110 just a few months ago, when some aussie stepped up and mentioned it. | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | here | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/wT5Xiw7D | 19:49 |
Fudge | i can use that? | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | copy/paste that over your existing startup.txt | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | it's still overclocked tho | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | you have a newer kernel too yes? | 19:49 |
Fudge | yes sir | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | i changed the sleep_mode to =1 | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | you can do that w/the newer kernels. | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | and still OC | 19:49 |
Fudge | what does the sleep mode actually do ? | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | lol you linky'd to the FAQ earlier | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | it's in thar ;) | 19:52 |
Fudge | 716800 is the clock speed | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | yea | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | i left that in there | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | so you're still overclocking | 19:52 |
Fudge | if i find it still locks up can i jsut pick a number like 600 | 19:53 |
Fudge | or do u need to use a multiplyer fsb to work out clock speed | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | FAQ has known good values | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | if you want to not OC at all, just remove the line. | 19:53 |
Fudge | oh yep np | 19:54 |
Fudge | i hadnt finished reading tha tpage :$ | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | haha | 19:55 |
arrrghhh | there's a lot there | 19:55 |
arrrghhh | i frequently reference it and search the page. | 19:55 |
arrrghhh | love FF's search. i can't stand having to use IE to search pages. it hurts. | 19:56 |
stinebd | lmao https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/050638f94b14d279604a335f903e7609bf8275ef | 19:56 |
XirXes | lol | 19:57 |
Fudge | yeah its nice | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | gigglebread branch? | 20:00 |
stinebd | beard :D | 20:00 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 20:00 |
arrrghhh | didn't notice that. | 20:00 |
arrrghhh | holy cow that's a long page. | 20:01 |
Fudge | its ok to use fast boot right? | 20:01 |
arrrghhh | what's fast boot? | 20:01 |
arrrghhh | Gen.Y? | 20:01 |
Fudge | yeah i think so | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | we don't support that | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | doesn't mean you can't use it, you're just on your own for support on that. we've had this convo before. | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | remember? i just click haret.exe :P | 20:02 |
Fudge | Gen.Y DualBOOT WVGA v1.0.6.0 - Storage Card Rhodium.cab | 20:03 |
arrrghhh | you're on your own with that app my friend. | 20:03 |
Fudge | yes we have, thought you may have been familiar though | 20:03 |
arrrghhh | nah, i don't use gen.y | 20:03 |
arrrghhh | not many here do AFAIK | 20:04 |
arrrghhh | we've never supported it, either way. | 20:04 |
Fudge | np | 20:11 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: f22 put in a claim on that rhod | 20:13 |
XirXes | I was reading the logs. need any more people testing frx04? | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | lol i heard | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, he said he wanted it for NAND testing. i think he'll relinquish to you tho. | 20:14 |
arrrghhh | he wanted to get into kernel dev more, and that phone is gonna need some kernel hackin to get up-to-date. | 20:14 |
stinebd | well if he's gonna do actual work on it, then it's probably better than what i would use it for | 20:14 |
arrrghhh | lmao what? cheese slicer? | 20:15 |
stinebd | sending naughty pics to brett favre | 20:15 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | nice. | 20:16 |
XirXes | doesnt the nexus 1 have a 5 mp cam? | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | zing! | 20:16 |
stinebd | good question | 20:19 |
stinebd | yup 5mp | 20:20 |
stinebd | unexpected contingency! | 20:23 |
stinebd | my unpushed rootfs changes for gingerbread have broken froyo init | 20:23 |
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arrrghhh | sweet | 20:23 |
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stinebd | now i'm glad i didn't push those | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | as we like to say at work - no test like production! | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | speaking of which, i'm blowing up prod in a couple of hours... probably should prepare. | 20:25 |
Fudge | workin nice now arrrghhh | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, good to hear | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | "My fear of mustard and pickles is ruining my life" <--- man i thought i had problems. | 20:30 |
stinebd | doodeedoo | 20:32 |
stinebd | i love new-release smell | 20:32 |
arrrghhh | i want to run android full time so bad. i think i'm just going to flash it and say screw it. | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | if people can't get a hold of me, that's the price they pay for trying to get a hold of me. | 20:47 |
Fudge | loL arrrghhh , can u actually flash it to your device though instead of booting from windblows? | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | yes | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | it's only a partial NAND flash technically | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | but winmo is gone... completely. | 20:47 |
Fudge | nice | 20:48 |
stinebd | wow wtf | 20:53 |
stinebd | weird | 20:56 |
stinebd | random missing file in my FRX03 system image was breaking the OTA | 20:56 |
stinebd | i gotta stop tinkering | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 20:57 |
arrrghhh | gimmie gimmie! | 20:57 |
XirXes | does that mean we cant OTA this update or was it local? | 20:57 |
stinebd | it was just my image | 20:57 |
stinebd | apparently i was playing around with it at some point | 20:57 |
XirXes | oh lolwtf | 20:57 |
stinebd | ok i'm gonna push this rootfs stuff | 20:58 |
stinebd | including gingerbread support | 20:58 |
stinebd | so be prepared for mayhem | 20:58 |
arrrghhh | will the new rootfs work on froyo? | 20:58 |
stinebd | hope so | 20:58 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:58 |
xdandroid | New rootfs available (20110122-6e6bf18) at: http://is.gd/OzuLnf -- Changes at: http://is.gd/ww7iHh | 21:03 |
arrrghhh | and so it begins | 21:05 |
stinebd | you may see a lot of swooning on the forums | 21:11 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:11 |
stinebd | but it doesn't mean we're close to a release | 21:11 |
stinebd | so... | 21:11 |
arrrghhh | you tease | 21:11 |
stinebd | http://files.xdandroid.com/updates/update-FRX04.zip | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | The page isn't redirecting properl...? | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | er | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | properly | 21:12 |
stinebd | hmm | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | redirects to http://htcandroid.xland.cz/updates/update-FRX04.zip | 21:13 |
stinebd | fixed | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | got it | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | time to try it | 21:14 |
stinebd | TO THE CLOUD! | 21:16 |
XirXes | dee deedle dee | 21:16 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: got neocore? | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | yea | 21:17 |
stinebd | good | 21:17 |
stinebd | i'm not particularly interested in numbers. just need to know that it runs with hw3d | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | booting now | 21:18 |
stinebd | updated already? | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | OoOo updating | 21:19 |
stinebd | oh | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | sorry first boot | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | hrm. little droid dude has an exclamation point, and seems kinda hung. | 21:19 |
stinebd | that means it failed | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | :( | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | i have the new rootfs | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | does the data.img matter? | 21:20 |
stinebd | no | 21:20 |
arrrghhh | didn't think so. | 21:20 |
arrrghhh | well i thought this was a clean frx03 image... pretty sure it is. i'll doublecheck. | 21:20 |
stinebd | system image should be up shortly anyway | 21:22 |
stinebd | few minutes | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | np | 21:22 |
XirXes | mines almost done | 21:22 |
stinebd | yours is actually working? | 21:23 |
XirXes | yeah | 21:23 |
stinebd | crazy | 21:23 |
stinebd | i was almost certain i used the wrong source target files for the ota | 21:23 |
XirXes | just filled the bar and rebooted | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | heyhey | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | maybe my image isn't clean... hrm. not sure what it's been tainted with. | 21:23 |
XirXes | i use gen.y so ill be booting android shortly | 21:23 |
stinebd | tinkering | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, all my tinkering resulted in a non-bootable image. | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | so i couldn't leave it like that lol | 21:24 |
stinebd | well neocore works for me | 21:24 |
stinebd | so thats a good sign | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | gonna recopy a clean frx03 image just to see | 21:25 |
XirXes | its booting normally. made it to splash | 21:26 |
Fudge | how would one go about changing colours? i.e light coloured foreground black background | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | yea must've been that other image. meh. | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | probably one i built, d'oh. seems to be workin now. | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | Fudge, you can change the background image...? | 21:30 |
XirXes | was running slow at first. thought it was system_server again. but it wasnt | 21:30 |
XirXes | about phone says the build number is frx04. update went flawlessly. im still using the data.img ive been using for a few weeks | 21:31 |
XirXes | and it seems pretty fast but that will be something determined over time | 21:32 |
arrrghhh | nice. booting now from the successful update. | 21:32 |
arrrghhh | i guess i should install gen.y | 21:32 |
arrrghhh | i get so sick of waiting for sense to finish crapping itself. | 21:32 |
stinebd | yeah i turned sense off totally | 21:33 |
XirXes | that was my motivator | 21:33 |
stinebd | since i don't actually use the raph | 21:33 |
XirXes | im excited for my g2 | 21:33 |
stinebd | unfortunately this is a first-gen fuze with the wonky sd slot so autobooting into haret is not feasible for me :( | 21:33 |
arrrghhh | XirXes, was your logo flickering at first? | 21:34 |
arrrghhh | boot logo | 21:34 |
stinebd | i have to do the insert-eject dance about 5 times before it's finally recognized | 21:34 |
XirXes | yeah | 21:34 |
stinebd | mine too | 21:34 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 21:34 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if acl gave you the wrong ones :P | 21:34 |
stinebd | hmm | 21:35 |
stinebd | now that you mention it | 21:35 |
stinebd | EVERYBODY BACK TO FRX03 | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:35 |
XirXes | it doesnt seem any faster graphicly but it does seem smoother moving around the os | 21:35 |
stinebd | seriously | 21:36 |
stinebd | everybody back to frx03 | 21:36 |
stinebd | i forgot to unzip-files | 21:37 |
arrrghhh | nice | 21:37 |
XirXes | neocore actually looks pretty smooth | 21:38 |
stinebd | XirXes: what's your device? | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | RHOD210 | 21:38 |
XirXes | rhod | 21:38 |
stinebd | ok | 21:39 |
stinebd | surprised it even works | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | i see frx04 in my build # | 21:39 |
stinebd | that frx04 is no good | 21:39 |
stinebd | has the old libGLES_qcom | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | d'oh | 21:39 |
XirXes | it says 17.5 fps | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | new gralloc tho? | 21:39 |
stinebd | yeah | 21:39 |
XirXes | will i be able to update to a new frx04? | 21:40 |
stinebd | nah | 21:40 |
XirXes | thought so | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | you'll have to start with another clean frx03 image | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | or just download a frx04 image when it's out & proper :P | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, gingerbread looks a lot like froyo :/ | 21:42 |
XirXes | do you think i would be able to revert just the system.ext2? | 21:42 |
stinebd | lol | 21:42 |
stinebd | you can stick an old frx03 system.ext2 in there, yeah | 21:42 |
stinebd | and then ota again | 21:42 |
XirXes | nice | 21:42 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 21:43 |
stinebd | lol the stolen java code | 21:43 |
XirXes | i like how modular xdandroid is. thats why i havent use neopeek | 21:43 |
stinebd | it's all unit tests | 21:43 |
stinebd | see microsoft is evil, google is just dumb | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | that is pretty dumb | 21:44 |
XirXes | i think google did it on purpose | 21:44 |
XirXes | picking a fight | 21:44 |
arrrghhh | oracle's got the cash to go after 'em too | 21:44 |
XirXes | i believe it | 21:44 |
arrrghhh | they only paid their CEO $1 last year. | 21:44 |
stinebd | i wonder what the taxes are on that | 21:45 |
stinebd | $.40? | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | down from $70.1 million in 2009? | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | i think he's getting audited for sure. | 21:45 |
XirXes | I made more money than oracles CEO last year!! only barely but still its someone | 21:45 |
XirXes | lol | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | sorry | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | On August 22, 2009, it was reported that Ellison would be paid only $1 for his base salary for the fiscal year of 2010, down from the $1,000,000 he was paid in fiscal 2009 | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | $1 million was his 'base salary'. | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | he made $70.1 million in 2009 with bonuses and what-not. holy FUCK! | 21:46 |
XirXes | wow | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | His entertainment system cost $1 million, and includes a rock concert-sized video projector at one end of a drained swimming pool, using the gaping hole as a giant subwoofer. | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | talk about adding insult to injury. i hate this guy. | 21:50 |
arrrghhh | and yet i want to be him. | 21:50 |
XirXes | lol | 21:50 |
XirXes | i want to eat | 21:50 |
arrrghhh | hahaha seriously. | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | i keep thinking i should pay for titanium backup | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | but $6? i'd pay $3... | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | everytime i do a restore i think "man... i should buy this" | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | then i see that it's $6, and i probably won't be restoring a lot when i get a native android phone (whenever that happens) | 21:56 |
XirXes | you can still use a script to restore all | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | eh? | 22:03 |
XirXes | its buryed in the app somewhere. i dont remember where but its there | 22:03 |
arrrghhh | so in the free version i don't have to go thru all the "install" "done" buttons? | 22:07 |
arrrghhh | that's really the only downfall of the free version... i mean they gotta have something in the paid for version :P | 22:08 |
XirXes | you still do but you start them all at once | 22:08 |
XirXes | so right after one finishes the next one starts | 22:08 |
stinebd | http://files.xdandroid.com/updates/update-FRX04.zip | 22:09 |
XirXes | updating now | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | XirXes, are you just talking about the batch operations...? | 22:12 |
XirXes | yeah thats it. i guess. idk. i stoped caring about restoring my things. if i need to wipe my data then oh well | 22:13 |
XirXes | just rebooted | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | haha | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | i didn't care for the longest time | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | then i started to get used to certain apps... | 22:13 |
XirXes | i think my wifi aps are backed up tho | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | ha, i never use wifi | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | 'cept for tethering | 22:14 |
XirXes | lol | 22:14 |
XirXes | which apearently sucks | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | it's better than winmo's | 22:14 |
stinebd | i always have wifi. i'm on at&t | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | HA | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | i always have wifi. i just don't care. | 22:14 |
XirXes | bootloop on anim | 22:22 |
F22 | stinebd: pong | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | XirXes, ha now i have a gen.y question. i see there's registry entries if you want it to be andboot or root - isn't there an option to have a custom path? | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | nvm ignore me. | 22:27 |
stinebd | F22: i asked that guy about the rhodium and he said you'd like to use it for development. it's all yours if you want it. | 22:27 |
F22 | stinebd: i was about to say the same to you. | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | fight for it! | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | cagematch | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | for the RHOD | 22:29 |
stinebd | lol avg antivirus for android | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | man, i don't know why i haven't used gen.y before. that was way too easy. | 22:32 |
F22 | stinebd: there are actually two donor rhod's available right now and the other one is of less use to me. i suppose it depends on whether or not being able to use it with your carrier matters to you. it's a t-mo, so it will work with at&t once the kernel issues are ironed out, just not the 3g. the other one is a 400, so it's cdma and no oddball kernel issues, but won't work with at&t.. | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | it'll work with at&t | 22:32 |
stinebd | i thought they're all world phones | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | 400&500 is a 'world phone' | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | yea | 22:32 |
F22 | ahhh...shows how familiar i am with the 400. lol. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | :P | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | to be fair, i do have one. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | sprint still sells the bitch for $200 on a 2yr contract. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, no flicker in the boot logo | 22:33 |
F22 | so both of them are possibilities then. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | crap, forgot to remove the update.zip. i guess i couldn't really with gen.y | 22:33 |
stinebd | angry birds successfully installed | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:34 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: the updater should remove it | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | oh cool | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | not sure if i'm in a bootloop yet. | 22:34 |
stinebd | i didn't get a bootloop | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | nope | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | booted | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | no loopie | 22:35 |
stinebd | angry birds is slow as crap | 22:36 |
stinebd | i want my money back | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | fine... | 22:37 |
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stinebd | is it me or does the new neocore not install a launcher icon? | 22:38 |
F22 | just you ;) | 22:38 |
F22 | unless there is a newer one than i have. | 22:38 |
stinebd | got it from market | 22:38 |
F22 | i'll pull out my phone and see if there is a newer version available. | 22:38 |
stinebd | probably some stupid launcher bug or something | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | i've had it where the app drawer doesn't necessairly show all the apps | 22:39 |
stinebd | it shows up in the applications submenu when you long tap on the home screen and hit add a shortcut | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | you blamed it on android being too fast for our devices lol | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | yup, i remember reporting that exact issue to ya before. | 22:39 |
stinebd | was it neocore? | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | hell i think that was back when i had a RAPH | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | nope | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | it was a ton of apps missing when i originally reported it | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | like i would open the app drawer and literally 7 things were in there | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | i was missing a ton of crap | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | it's not consistently reproducible. | 22:40 |
stinebd | just neocore for me | 22:40 |
stinebd | angry birds is there | 22:40 |
stinebd | and rockbox | 22:40 |
stinebd | angry birds needs to not be there | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | UH-OH, not sure what happened. I reformated my SD card to do a new run since I found what I wanted. Now it seems like I can do everything but make calls in WM6.5. What do I do | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | i love posts like that. | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | just installed neocore from the market | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | evidently i didn't have that one backed up | 22:42 |
F22 | market doesn't tell me there's an update for neocore, so it must still be the latest. and i did download it from the market originally too. | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | and i get an icon in mah app drawer | 22:42 |
stinebd | cool | 22:43 |
stinebd | <3 android | 22:43 |
arrrghhh | user-error | 22:43 |
F22 | i haven't updated anything tonight though. | 22:43 |
arrrghhh | what were you thinking | 22:43 |
arrrghhh | 20.2 fps | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | no audio | 22:44 |
F22 | that's what i generally get with no audio too. | 22:44 |
stinebd | hey there it is | 22:44 |
stinebd | force stopping launcher and restarting it made it show up | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | magic | 22:44 |
F22 | no doubt raph will do better. vogue gets like 36-37 fps. | 22:45 |
stinebd | raph is 17.0 with audio | 22:45 |
F22 | same as rhod. i'd have thought it would be better, fewer pixels. | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | raph just sucks that hard | 22:45 |
stinebd | clearly the bottleneck is elsewhere | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | well what's fun is | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | run that fps2d | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | with the screen off | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | you'll poop your pants | 22:46 |
stinebd | why would you run it with the screen off? | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | cuz the score skyrockets lol | 22:46 |
stinebd | of course it does | 22:46 |
stinebd | the panel is suspended | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | toastfch or whatever said that meant we're hitting some limit | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | that 30fps limit on evo | 22:46 |
stinebd | doubt it | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | he was showing the commits they made, and then the commits HTC made to improve on it | 22:47 |
stinebd | you'd see that behavior in winmo too | 22:47 |
F22 | we get an average of 30fps, but there are a few that hit 50 fps if logcat is to be believed. | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | never tested it in winmo | 22:47 |
stinebd | don't need tests | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | F22, and it usually averages out to around 50 with the screen off as i recall | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | still seem to be hitting a bottleneck somewhere for sure. | 22:48 |
stinebd | i bet i could get the score up to at least 9001 if we don't have to worry about screens | 22:48 |
F22 | yes, that's what i've heard too, haven't gotten around to trying that academic excercise myself. | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | winmo really doesn't push this hardware | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, do eeeeeeet | 22:49 |
F22 | arrrghhh, phone's utility isn't quite the same without the screen... ;) | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | bah | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | we don't need no stinking screens | 22:50 |
F22 | stinebd: i think i'm going to arrange for you to get the 400 instead since it sounds to me like it's all the same to you. | 23:03 |
stinebd | F22: whichever one you don't want i'll take | 23:04 |
arrrghhh | yea, then you get to have some fun kernel hacking on that AUO panel F22 ;) | 23:04 |
F22 | that and all the nand dev work is on cdma right now. | 23:05 |
arrrghhh | :D | 23:05 |
arrrghhh | fer once we're ahead at something! woot! | 23:06 |
arrrghhh | FRX04 seems good | 23:10 |
F22 | stinebd: ok. sounds good. i'll see if i can redirect the other donor into sending his to you. if he's already shipped it, i'll ship it you myself once i get it. you're not very far away from me, so that shouldn't take long at all. | 23:14 |
F22 | stinebd: you were already on the short list of potential good homes for that 400 as it was. i wasn't planning on keeping that one. | 23:14 |
F22 | Fudge: Btw, did you ever check your rhodium model? do you have a 110? | 23:18 |
stinebd | F22: thanks | 23:21 |
stinebd | FRX04 announcement is going out now | 23:21 |
TheDeadCPU | aww shit | 23:22 |
* TheDeadCPU hides | 23:22 | |
arrrghhh | F22, yea it's a 110 | 23:28 |
stinebd | ahhaha | 23:32 |
stinebd | stupid voice input censorship | 23:32 |
arrrghhh | you can turn that off | 23:32 |
arrrghhh | i lol'd first time i saw it too. | 23:32 |
F22 | if he's willing to either get me a pic or grab a link to the manual off htc's site i can compare it for diffs with the 100_uk, and if the diffs are minor i can make him a keymap pretty quick. i expect they will be minor at most, possibly even identical as you suspect. the test rootfs is just about ready to go out, i'm actually working on making keyboard selection in the init script a bit more efficient right now, in some cases it will do ov | 23:37 |
F22 | eventuall i want to move that into the framework as per the earlier discussion with stinebd, alex & phh. but i'll look at that after i push this out. | 23:38 |
F22 | although if i recall correctly, stinebd wasn't certain that could be done without a reboot. | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | sounds good | 23:42 |
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