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| Conde | hey people how much to a new update??? | 07:57 |
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| crispee | well it seems any kernel i use past "2.6.27.46-1242-g51a9760 upcm@anaxagoras #56" I get a screen alignment problem | 11:01 |
| crispee | i tried recalibrating but that doesn't fix it | 11:01 |
| crispee | it will look ok for about 30 seconds then all of a sudden the whole screen shifts to the left | 11:01 |
| crispee | by about 1/8 of the screen | 11:02 |
| crispee | this is on a raph800 btw | 11:02 |
| emwe | crispee: build 1245 includes a commit which updates the clock implementation which is likely to be the culprit. I think it's already known. allthough not taken care of, yet. but anything later then 1242 doesn't improve anything raph800 specific, so relax ;) | 11:15 |
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| crispee | well I ran the 1250 and my phone came out of sleep after leaving it idle overnight | 11:25 |
| crispee | with the 1242 kernel it doesn't | 11:25 |
| crispee | i have to restart the thing after leaving it idle overnight | 11:26 |
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| crispee | emwe: that and wifi reboots the system sometimes | 11:29 |
| emwe | crispee: so the clocks do some good and bad ;) | 11:30 |
| emwe | but i can't say more about that. there's some other geniuses which should be consulted regarding clocks. | 11:30 |
| emwe | if there's no bugreport about the raph800 shifted sceen thingy, lookup the bugtracker on xdandroid.com and create one with all the info you can provide, if none is present. | 11:31 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Sooo.. Why don't we have nand and clockworkmod like HD2?!?!?!?!?!? | 11:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | ahhaha. jk | 11:34 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 79 filed... | 13:04 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=79 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Phone battery drains out (reaches ~15%) soon within few hours | 13:04 |
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| Naad | Hey arrrghhh is auto backlight supposed to work on Wistilt2's testing kernel? | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | yes... | 16:58 |
| Naad | actually, is it supposed to work on a rhod100 to be precise | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | not sure | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | does it work on normal kernels? | 16:58 |
| Naad | Yeah | 16:58 |
| Naad | it does | 16:58 |
| Naad | the testing kernel wasn't working with 100s at first i read.. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | panel collapse doesn't work with the 100's. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | so the kernel works | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | but your battery life won't be as good as basically every other device :p | 16:59 |
| Naad | cause my brightness always resets to about half when i put the phone in sleep | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | known issue | 17:00 |
| Naad | ok, well, battery life is quite ok i would say.. | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | it'll be much better once everything settles | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | bzo found another thing that's not helping battery life | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | and with proper panel collapse, we might be able to beat winmo | 17:00 |
| Naad | nice :) | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | bzo got almost 45hrs on his once | 17:00 |
| Naad | haha sweet | 17:00 |
| Naad | standby mainly right? | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | standby only | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | panel collapse only happens when the phone is sleeping... | 17:02 |
| Naad | another thing, F22 his modded rootfs, for homebutton behavior, how do i hang up a call? via menu? | 17:02 |
| Naad | and the panels of 100s don't collapse right.. | 17:02 |
| Naad | or, just the one type? | 17:03 |
| F22 | Naad: menu works, although you can also have the power button play double duty as a hangup button during calls. | 17:04 |
| Naad | ok, but that i need to set up? | 17:05 |
| Naad | cause mine just kills the screen then.. | 17:05 |
| F22 | it's in the accessibility menu | 17:05 |
| Naad | and doesnt hang up.. or thats how it seems | 17:05 |
| Naad | ok | 17:05 |
| Naad | thnx! | 17:05 |
| F22 | settings>accessibility>power button ends call | 17:05 |
| F22 | if i recall correctly | 17:05 |
| F22 | you're welcome | 17:05 |
| Naad | I knew i read about it a while ago, but it slipped my mind | 17:06 |
| F22 | yep, it was in the instructions for the rootfs. | 17:06 |
| Naad | anyone ever had one of the sony ericsson xperia x10 mini (pro) in there hands? | 17:07 |
| Naad | just got one for my girlfriend yesterday, and its really quite good, bit too small for me, but otherwise great phone | 17:08 |
| Naad | and full qwerty! | 17:08 |
| F22 | nope, no experience with that one. | 17:09 |
| Naad | got it as a replacement for my omnia, which broke 3 times | 17:10 |
| Naad | so was happy with the service :) | 17:11 |
| Naad | anyway, thanks for the help guys! I'm off to bed! | 17:11 |
| Naad | as the battery improvements don't work so well for the rhod100, i might as well use the 1250 kernel instead right? | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | no real difference between the test kernel and 1250 other than the panel improvements, which don't work for those stupid auo panels. | 17:20 |
| Naad | haha, if i change my screen (have a defect in it) is there a change i get a good panel? cause not all 100s have those | 17:21 |
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| arrrghhh | no clue | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | i've never had a screen replaced. | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'd assume they'd stick with auo if it came in with an auo | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | but if all they have is eid... | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | you might luck out. again, not a clue what would happen - probably just luck of the draw. | 17:27 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: i take it you've seen the mailing list | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | kinda on the fence on joining it tho | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | i already get enough mail thru the bugtracker... especially since i was added to the developer list there :P | 18:20 |
| stinebd | oh crap | 18:21 |
| stinebd | i totally forgot we have a bugzilla | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 18:21 |
| stinebd | anyway no obligation for you | 18:24 |
| stinebd | and if you're interested in it anyway, you can do the digest | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | did you really forget about the bugzilla? lol | 18:25 |
| stinebd | it's impossible for me to forget about anything related to this project | 18:25 |
| stinebd | it haunts my nightmares | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea i might join. i just have a feeling i won't understand much of what's passed around, which then i don't see much point in me reading it :P | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. how could you forget | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | jeez, it seems interest is actually picking up for XDAndroid | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | november and december it seemed like interest was dying out. | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | then a couple of things get kinda fixed, and all the sudden everyone is interested again lol | 18:27 |
| stinebd | gingerbread | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | do eeeeet | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i could help ya with it. seems you could use the help, mr. sole userland man. | 18:27 |
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| arrrghhh | do our kernels support the xperia? | 18:32 |
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| ZeRoX | hello all :D | 18:33 |
| ZeRoX | how we doing? | 18:34 |
| ZeRoX | full of life, excellent :) | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | ...do you have a question? | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | this is a chat room, but we don't really 'chat' much in here honestly. | 18:35 |
| ZeRoX | cool, I will be setting up tinboot for blackstone then, I will try and keep quiet. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | OoO really? | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | emwe would be excited to hear that. oh wait, he's topa. | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | with camro gone, i don't think we have any blackstone devs... | 18:36 |
| ZeRoX | well I would atleast like to get us booting from sdcard | 18:36 |
| emwe | meep. already shoould be in bed... | 18:36 |
| emwe | topa here, yes :) | 18:37 |
| ZeRoX | yeah I heard camro bricked his device | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | sorry dude. go sleep :P | 18:37 |
| emwe | i think alex took over some blackstone and viruscrazy? | 18:37 |
| emwe | still frineds arounds ,) | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | ZeRoX: yea. too much battery testing. | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | viruscrazy is working on the blackstone cam sensor... | 18:37 |
| ZeRoX | really, been very quiet if someone has begun work for us guys. | 18:37 |
| ZeRoX | no one says a thing and there just isn't any developers about. | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, i have trouble keepin track lol. | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | ZeRoX: well the post is in the RAPH section of xda-devs... | 18:38 |
| ZeRoX | cool cool, all sounds good. | 18:38 |
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| arrrghhh | more devices moving to NAND is always good news. | 18:38 |
| ZeRoX | I am a developer from the Hero forums, I own a blackstone alongside my hero and wish to begun work otherwise were getting no where. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK RHOD is the only device on a partial NAND boot. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | sounds good man. always good to have more devs. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | #htc-linux is probably more appropriate, but you'll get a lot of hd2 guys in there :P | 18:39 |
| ZeRoX | do we have DZO as a contact? | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | i wish. i don't think anyone has heard from him in a while... | 18:39 |
| ZeRoX | still got my old kaiser haha DZO has me hanging onto that phone for ages. | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea, at the rate this project is going, i'm not going to get rid of my RHOD for a while. | 18:40 |
| ZeRoX | keeps you busy, thats a good thing | 18:41 |
| ZeRoX | I have just put up a video of a froyo build I am working on, check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaV0B6Y7Cp8 | 18:42 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: x1 is basically raph with an upside-down wvga screen | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha we'll see how this works on a tethered cxn | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: seriously? lol | 18:42 |
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| stinebd | it's kovsky in htcspeak | 18:43 |
| ZeRoX | not much to the tinboot conf really is there, need to trace LOAD_START values from haret.exe | 18:45 |
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| arrrghhh | oy this tether is a pita. | 18:49 |
| ZeRoX | what's already been started for the blackstone? No point me tracing all these values if its already been done. | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | afaik, nothing for tinboot/nand. | 18:51 |
| ZeRoX | well rhod have tinboot initialised right, you guys are booting of SD card atm? | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | i believe the initrd and rootfs are on nand, rest is on SD. | 18:51 |
| stinebd | no | 18:52 |
| stinebd | all of it is sd | 18:52 |
| stinebd | we don't touch nand at all | 18:52 |
| stinebd | (except for reading wifi calibration from it) | 18:52 |
| ZeRoX | yeah that is what i though stinebd, we haven't done any nand tracing yet right. | 18:53 |
| stinebd | don't know | 18:54 |
| ZeRoX | http://www.htcdevscene.co.uk/ is my site, currently quiet due to me having some probs at home, if any of you guys have any difficulty getting together your more then welcome to come hover at my site. If you need forums setup np. | 18:54 |
| ZeRoX | right going to need to reboot into linux, only jump into windows to game ^^, | 18:56 |
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| arrrghhh | oy ve this tether sucks. i wonder if my boss would be mad if i thew a WAP on our external comcast connection... | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | initrd appears to be on nand. nothin else tho, kernel/modules, system image, rootfs and data.img are all on sd. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i'm talking about the partial NAND that's functional for RHOD only? | 18:59 |
| ZeRoX | anyone got a working link for the haret pack so I can begin tracing the load_start values for our tinboot conf for blackstone? | 19:00 |
| ZeRoX | link i have is dead | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | you just want haret..? | 19:01 |
| ZeRoX | no worries got it now... | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | ha okie | 19:04 |
| ZeRoX | cheers arrrghhh for being on the ready :) | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol np dude. | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | i'm here to help :D | 19:04 |
| ZeRoX | guys is haret console about anymore or you havent to use telnet? | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | i use haret console | 19:11 |
| ZeRoX | having even lol | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | used* | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | ZeRoX, not the best post on the matter, but here ya go | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/1960714-post2.html | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | near the bottom of the post ;) | 19:13 |
| ZeRoX | nice one got it | 19:16 |
| XirXes | I just plugged in headphones to my phone and it detected them. nothing came out of them but the detection is apearently working | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, 3.5mm or extusb? | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | oh you're a 210. nvm. | 19:20 |
| XirXes | ext | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | extusb detection does work, that's known. | 19:20 |
| XirXes | sweet | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | it also works with the vm trick. | 19:20 |
| XirXes | with the vm trick will it actually output sound to them? | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | just need to plug them in while in winmo | 19:21 |
| XirXes | nice | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | make a call with them plugged in | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | leave the call up, boot android. | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | last i tried (with mah 3.5mm jack :P) it works, but breaks all other audio. | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | as in, you can't use anything but the 3.5mm jack. perhaps since extusb is being detected, that isn't the case. | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that's what that dude was talking about... | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | bah. stupid htc releasing hardware before it should be released. | 19:22 |
| XirXes | so like everything else that doesnt work it needs a proper init coded? | 19:23 |
| XirXes | ill give it a shot to see if i can switch | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | let me know. i'm betting it will work. | 19:23 |
| XirXes | im very curius | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha so am i :D | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | i want it to work with the 3.5mm jack tho. extusb is stoopid. | 19:24 |
| XirXes | well its all i got :( | 19:24 |
| XirXes | and its pretty sweet for car docks | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 19:24 |
| XirXes | plug in 1 thing and you have the phone carging and playing your music | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | you still have to plug in a charger and an aux jack, unless your freakin dock is made for the phone :P | 19:25 |
| XirXes | well im cool with leaving a few wires lying around in my car | 19:26 |
| XirXes | but i get in and plug it in and its ready to go | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:26 |
| XirXes | woah, i can still hear the call even tho linux is already booting | 19:27 |
| ZeRoX | boot params: RAMADDR=10000000 RAMSIZE=0d000000 MTYPE=2030 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0' | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Boot FB feedback: 1 | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Built virtual to physical page mapping | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Allocated 400 pages (tags=0x63700000/23675000 kernel=0x63701000/23674000 initrd=0x6388c000/234b5000 index=0x6388c000/234b5000) | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Built kernel tags area | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Built page index | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Video buffer at 0x57644800 sx=480 sy=800 mx=120 my=133 | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Video Phys FB=16044800 Fonts=234b3068 | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | preload=2292@0x6388f000/234b2000 sj=0x6388f000 stack=0x6388d000/234b4000 data=0x6388e000/234b3000 exec=234b2128 | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Reading 1617252 bytes... | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | Read complete | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | cool cool | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, yea call doesn't cut until A N D R O I D | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | and holy paste ZeRoX :P | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | cheers lol | 19:28 |
| XirXes | yeah thats about where it stoped | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | :D | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | sorry | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | np | 19:28 |
| XirXes | lol | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | not like we're in #ubuntu. | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 19:28 |
| ZeRoX | hehe | 19:28 |
| stinebd | we're not? crap! | 19:29 |
| ZeRoX | lol | 19:29 |
| ZeRoX | everything vanishes | 19:29 |
| ZeRoX | everyone | 19:29 |
| ZeRoX | damn whats up with my typing today grrr | 19:29 |
| ZeRoX | lack of sleep, bloody kids. | 19:29 |
| XirXes | nope. it doesnt switch | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | bah. oh well. | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | so much for detect working... | 19:32 |
| XirXes | and i hear static in the headphone unless its playing music then the static comes out the loudspeaker | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, should've mentioned that :P | 19:33 |
| XirXes | well it still pauses when i unplug it | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | weird. but audio never transfers back? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | what bout the front speaker for a call? | 19:34 |
| XirXes | yeah | 19:34 |
| XirXes | nope no switch back. and i think unplug detect broke. | 19:36 |
| XirXes | i mean in call switch back | 19:36 |
| XirXes | im gunna dump my dmesg and reboot | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea. not surprised unfortunately. | 19:37 |
| ZeRoX | some reason haret is tracing my RAMSIZE incorrectly, this is the value it returns: 0d000000 | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | acl is looking into it, hopefully he turns up something fruitful. | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | i love it when someone PM's me on XDA with a simple question... oy. this dude said he read the cam testing thread 3x, and when i asked him how he mounted the liboemcamera.so he came back with "O___o". sometimes i'm not sure why i'm so freakin helpful. | 19:38 |
| ZeRoX | hahaha | 19:39 |
| ZeRoX | mount via conf lol noob | 19:39 |
| XirXes | im not even going to bother with the camera test kernels. im waiting till it gets commited. i dont even use camera anyway | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea, we'll see what his next response is. probably "camera's working!!" | 19:40 |
| ZeRoX | slaps face :O | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, i don't either, but i wanted to play. deposited a check with USAA deposit@mobile, pretty cool :P | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't taken any actual pics really hahahaha | 19:41 |
| XirXes | nice | 19:41 |
| XirXes | last time i took a picture was when i did the logs for bzo | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha nice. | 19:42 |
| ZeRoX | lol ipad | 19:42 |
| XirXes | i need to make a rom for a 100 to get the logs from them cause apearently my logs only got 210 300 and 400 | 19:43 |
| XirXes | i havent heard anything about 500 | 19:43 |
| XirXes | have you heard of any cam issues with 100s? | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | well other than this one tool i'm trying to help | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | no | 19:45 |
| XirXes | lol | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | wait what? O_o | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | Did you read that camera thread or not...? | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | it says at the end of my conf. /system/lib/liboemcamera.so | 19:45 |
| XirXes | i dont like noobs | 19:46 |
| ZeRoX | and the rest of it look | 19:46 |
| ZeRoX | lol not look | 19:46 |
| XirXes | when im in a situation of noobieness i try to read as much as possible before asking for help | 19:46 |
| ZeRoX | mount --bind /my/hand /to/my/face | 19:47 |
| ZeRoX | lol | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | bind mount that bitch! | 19:47 |
| ZeRoX | haha | 19:47 |
| XirXes | is that the facepalm command?? | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | that would mean your hand is still elsewhere | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol i should just stop there. | 19:48 |
| ZeRoX | press any key to continue... | 19:48 |
| XirXes | *wimpers | 19:48 |
| ZeRoX | need to make tea me thinks :) | 19:48 |
| XirXes | which one is the any key?? | 19:48 |
| ZeRoX | hahah exactly, I had someone call for that one when I worked on a IT helpdesk lol | 19:49 |
| XirXes | lol | 19:49 |
| ZeRoX | I couldn't stop laughing whilst I put them on hold :) | 19:49 |
| XirXes | i think the people that have the worst time with the any key are the indicisive people | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:50 |
| ZeRoX | hehe we had someone complaining that his ip phone looked odd, any way this guy was a completely computer illiterate he claimed, we sent a tech out to him, the tech flipped his phone around and said what's the problem. hahhaha his phone was upside down FFS. | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | omg. | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | winnar | 19:54 |
| ZeRoX | we laughed about that one for ages, his phone was face down, he thought it was broken. | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | wow... | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | how do these people land and keep jobs? | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get it. | 19:54 |
| ZeRoX | god knows | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | oh right. 'management'. | 19:55 |
| ZeRoX | ^^, | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | brb | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | ah well. time to go home. cya guys. | 20:03 |
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| ZeRoX | hmmm connection appears to be dropping to soon via haret console | 20:12 |
| ZeRoX | beeed lol | 20:49 |
| ZeRoX | night all | 20:49 |
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