| R^7Z | gotta Fuze/RAPH110 | 00:00 |
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| R^7Z | I make it work... somehow... not sure how but it does... | 00:00 |
| F22 | cool. 1245 worked fine for me too, although i did get sod twice over a three day period. | 00:01 |
| R^7Z | I was jumping back and forth from the neopeek gingerbread build and FRX03... I haven't been brave enough to time test Android yet | 00:02 |
| R^7Z | gingerbread (alpha) | 00:02 |
| R^7Z | I find that manually turning off the screen helps... | 00:03 |
| R^7Z | I installed memorybooster and set the backlight to never timeout | 00:03 |
| R^7Z | Course I understand if you leave it unattended, you'll probably drain the crap out of the battery | 00:04 |
| R^7Z | So I also disable auto-blacklight and dim all the way | 00:04 |
| R^7Z | yeah, i tweek the crap out of it | 00:05 |
| R^7Z | lol | 00:05 |
| R^7Z | 1245 somehow broek auto-backlight, which is why I disabled it | 00:05 |
| R^7Z | broke* | 00:06 |
| R^7Z | spelling fail :D | 00:06 |
| F22 | haven't tried neopeek's gingerbread build yet, i've been hoping stinebd would get his up soon. broke my heart the other day when he said he hadn't looked at it since his last blog post on the 18th. :P | 00:06 |
| R^7Z | I don't blame him | 00:06 |
| R^7Z | honestly, it's not bad... but I have feeling that once he does... everyone and their mother is going to download the crap out of that link! | 00:06 |
| R^7Z | HA! | 00:07 |
| R^7Z | just a word of advice if you want to even consider trying out neopeeks builds | 00:08 |
| F22 | i don't either. every single one of us is a volunteer. hmm...what about neopeek? | 00:09 |
| R^7Z | while it isn't bad... the startup script commandline is a tad different... :/ | 00:09 |
| F22 | not a big deal, i can fix the init script to do what i want it to if it doesn't already. how is it different? | 00:09 |
| R^7Z | i don't know if you were following when cupcake was being developed | 00:10 |
| R^7Z | it's like they use the commandline from back in those days... | 00:10 |
| R^7Z | it kind of reminds me of older commandline options, ya know? | 00:11 |
| F22 | not sure i follow you, care to give an example? | 00:11 |
| R^7Z | root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 init=/init rootwait rw rootdelay=3 | 00:12 |
| F22 | ah | 00:12 |
| R^7Z | I think that just because he uses the multi partition | 00:12 |
| R^7Z | Also, you have to reboot once you "initially" install | 00:13 |
| R^7Z | it's like you boot twice (as most SHOULD with xdandroid) | 00:13 |
| R^7Z | the final deal is that you have to pull out two sets of startup scripts and boot from a subfolder for the initial install | 00:15 |
| F22 | assignable physical partition for root. makes sense since we don't have an fstab. xdandroid doesn't need it since we just load it from a file. | 00:15 |
| R^7Z | I kind of like it the way we have it now. it's easier to "plug n play" with the different files like the kernels and rootfs an whatnot | 00:16 |
| F22 | yep, it's easier to test new components with xdandroid's more modular set-up. although it's not so hard to wipe a partition and install fresh either, | 00:18 |
| R^7Z | I guess it depends on how much time is needed/desired for initial install? | 00:19 |
| F22 | whenever i update ubuntu or fedora, i don't update on top, i simply wipe everything except my /home partition and install fresh. this way i guarantee there is no hidden cruft lying around, and all the stuff i want to keep is in home anyway. | 00:19 |
| R^7Z | I've been considering on working on an ubuntu project with one of my computers sitting around my room... | 00:20 |
| R^7Z | just haven't had the time or interest level to get it started | 00:22 |
| R^7Z | Android is probably the most time I've played around with a linux-like OS | 00:22 |
| R^7Z | alright, i appreciate the chat and all the support from everyone | 00:23 |
| R^7Z | it is time for me to make like a baby and head-out... | 00:24 |
| R^7Z | :D | 00:24 |
| F22 | there is definitely a learning curve to it. on the other hand it rewards power-users tremendously once you get the hang of it, so much so that i feel like my hands are tied behind my back when i'm on windows. and there is no comparison in terms of stability. | 00:24 |
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| F22 | and quite frankly, getting it up and running is no longer quite the challenge it was in the old days. i remember once upon a time of having to compile a 3com ethernet card driver just to get networking to work. now most things work just fine out of the box. | 00:26 |
| F22 | lol, got so caught up in what i was saying i missed his exit. | 00:28 |
| XirXes | man it makes me happy to check the uptime on my phone and see it say 78 hours | 01:35 |
| XirXes | im running wistilt2s kernel from about that long ago. I didnt want to shut down to try that other one he posted when i saw the logs about the power issues | 01:38 |
| XirXes | but unlike winmo nothing has started to act funny just cause it hadnt been rebooted in a while | 01:39 |
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| martian63 | Hello! | 16:31 |
| martian63 | Can anyone help me with installing Android on TP2 Rhodium? I am unable to get wifi. | 16:32 |
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| stinebd | wtf gitorious | 18:30 |
| stinebd | fatal: protocol error: bad pack header | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | gotta learn to pack your headers better dude. | 18:35 |
| stinebd | how's life arrrghhh | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | livin the dream man. | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | workin my butt off mostly. you? | 18:41 |
| stinebd | same, minus the dream part | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea we're integrated a new call center system, and it's been interesting. | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | work has been nutso lately. | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | integrating* | 18:42 |
| stinebd | i took a few hours off and saw tron yesterday | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:43 |
| stinebd | spent most of the movie ogling olivia wilde | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | was it good? haven't seen it. | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 18:43 |
| stinebd | great movie | 18:43 |
| stinebd | but i'm a big jeff bridges fan, so there may be bias | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | ha, i love him too. | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | the dude. | 18:43 |
| stinebd | sd failure with new kernels | 18:44 |
| stinebd | strange | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea... seems to be some mess with the new clocks | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i guess there's a command you can put into the startup.txt that remedies the issue. | 18:44 |
| stinebd | d15a722704763a5c797f4f9400454fd64477b549 i presume? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea no | 18:45 |
| stinebd | no? | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | do you not know the command or are you just being stine? | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | dr. stine | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | you should get a phd | 18:45 |
| stinebd | oh, i was saying that's the bad commit | 18:45 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/d15a722704763a5c797f4f9400454fd64477b549 | 18:46 |
| stinebd | i've been away for a while, sorry | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec lemme check | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you were asking for the command you put in the startup.txt :P | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i believe that's the culprit commit | 18:47 |
| stinebd | i'm assuming the cmdline argument should be "release_the_kraken" | 18:48 |
| stinebd | (now i'm being me) | 18:48 |
| stinebd | wtf, there's an iphone forum on xda? | 18:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yes, but it's basically just a link to iphone-developers.com | 19:05 |
| stinebd | lame | 19:05 |
| stinebd | god gingerbread is slow | 19:07 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, it's not supposed to be wtf. | 19:30 |
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| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 49 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 19:58 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49 minor, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, No Data connection to the device, however 3G icon is displayed. | 19:58 |
| XirXes | is 11/15 the newest rootfs? | 20:27 |
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| arrrghhh | yes | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | couldn't check the webiste? :P | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | website rather. not sure how to check a webiste | 20:52 |
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| stinebd | gotta figure out why this is so abnormally slow | 21:42 |
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| bzo | stinebd: re bad commit, looks like [acl] pushed a version of alex's clocks that was missing a fix | 22:50 |
| stinebd | woo! | 22:50 |
| stinebd | got performance good! | 22:50 |
| stinebd | its | 22:51 |
| stinebd | its beautiful | 22:51 |
| * stinebd cries | 22:51 | |
| bzo | ok, ready to push out gb now? | 22:52 |
| stinebd | lol no | 22:52 |
| bzo | jk | 22:52 |
| stinebd | it's gonna take months to get everything working with just me :( | 22:52 |
| bzo | what are the areas you could use help on? | 22:52 |
| stinebd | sensors lib needs to be forward ported | 22:52 |
| stinebd | in particular | 22:53 |
| stinebd | that's a big job | 22:53 |
| bzo | also, I have a feeling I'm gonna have to redo the gps libs | 22:53 |
| stinebd | probably | 22:53 |
| stinebd | browser crashes when loading google home | 22:53 |
| stinebd | bluetooth isn't working that i know of | 22:54 |
| stinebd | most likely a dbus crash | 22:54 |
| bzo | bt not working is nothing new for us rhod guys :P | 22:54 |
| stinebd | well it not works to the point of crashing raph now | 22:54 |
| stinebd | try to turn on bluetooth = get boot animation | 22:54 |
| stinebd | and there are lots of sigsegv's during even normal operation | 22:55 |
| stinebd | so yeah it's not even close to release quality yet | 22:55 |
| stinebd | but hey, launcher panning is real fast now :) | 22:55 |
| stinebd | even faster than froyo | 22:55 |
| bzo | damn, port seems like a much bigger job than eclair/froyo | 22:55 |
| stinebd | yeah, they pretty much abandoned all the old platforms | 22:56 |
| bzo | does the ril work? | 22:56 |
| stinebd | hmm | 22:56 |
| stinebd | i don't have a sim in there | 22:56 |
| stinebd | looks like it's working | 22:56 |
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| stinebd | there are proper registration attempts and good handling of no sim replies | 22:57 |
| stinebd | ril interfaces had to stay the same because of passion still being supported | 22:57 |
| stinebd | also sd doesn't show as mounted | 22:58 |
| stinebd | i should probably blog all this so i don't forget | 22:58 |
| bzo | I'll try to help where I can, but man we need to recruit more devs | 22:59 |
| stinebd | but from whence? | 22:59 |
| stinebd | have you seen the xda crowd? | 22:59 |
| bzo | how about natem or NeoMatrixJR? | 23:00 |
| bzo | they were interested in kernel stuff earlier? | 23:00 |
| stinebd | well this is all userland stuff | 23:00 |
| bzo | programming stuff is all the same to me ;) | 23:01 |
| bzo | gtg, ttyl | 23:03 |
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| stinebd | god the keyboard is horrible now | 23:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | whatup? was just checking b 4 sleep. | 23:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | crap...brb running chatzilla and firefox is running 100% cpu... | 23:32 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | ok, back. now why did bzo mention me? stinebd? looked like you were in on that convo. | 23:36 |
| stinebd | he volunteered you to help with gingerbread porting | 23:36 |
| NeoMatrixJR | heh...would love to, but so far I've pretty much only been good for the RHOD400 keymaps and generating buzz in other developers' ears. (hence why bzo's back on the bluetooth trail again) | 23:37 |
| stinebd | that's why we have no devs | 23:37 |
| stinebd | everyone would love to but nobody does | 23:37 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I wish I knew this stuff better. Believe me. If I knew stuff about IRQ's and GPIO's (how to find them, and use them) other than basically what they do I'd be helping more. | 23:38 |
| stinebd | we don't need any of that stuff | 23:38 |
| stinebd | porting gingerbread is all userland issues | 23:38 |
| stinebd | C code, not 1s and 0s | 23:38 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Yeah, sadly my C is limited and rusty. Just a course or two in college that USED C (didn't actually teach it). | 23:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'm mostly a JAVA/HTML dev. PHP and VB.NET when I get the chance. Trying to learn more, but I'd be starting at a "porting android for dummies" level | 23:40 |
| stinebd | android is 90% java! | 23:40 |
| NeoMatrixJR | the apps are, but the os? | 23:41 |
| stinebd | of course | 23:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sorry to say I haven't even had a chance to look at it closely. I've been sneeking in and out of the kernel mostly to try and learn there. | 23:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | that and I have no time. Work's been BAD lately and the wife doesn't want me on the computer more than necissary. In fact I better go. It's sleep time and if I'm still down here when she get's outta the shower I'll be in trouble. | 23:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Though, if were that short I'll try and start looking at that stuff tomorrow. If I can catch you online maybe you can help me get started eh stinebd? | 23:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well... out for tonight. anyways. | 23:44 |
| stinebd | ok | 23:46 |
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