| neoskye | Yeah, I set up the APN properly now, so I see the little 3G icon change to E | 00:02 |
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| neoskye | and I can send MMS just fine | 00:02 |
| neoskye | but I won't ever recieve any, not even weblinks | 00:03 |
| neoskye | I read something about user-agent stuff, but I can't figure out how to change that or what I would change it to | 00:05 |
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| _RadioHead | hi all | 06:02 |
| _RadioHead | i have android diamond | 06:10 |
| _RadioHead | P3700 | 06:11 |
| _RadioHead | with Windoz 6.1 Pro Ce | 06:11 |
| _RadioHead | i want to install android or xandroid | 06:11 |
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| arrrghhh | F22: i stole your post if you don't mind... adjusted my first post with the new hotness. | 09:12 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | so ask in here | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | you don't ask questions in the dev channel dude. | 09:34 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: dude :) its my first time in htc/android channels :) if you ask me for Linux channels i know lol | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 09:35 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: i ahve htc diamond p3700 i want to install android | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | so what's the problem | 09:36 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: my question is can i insttall? | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | of course | 09:37 |
| _RadioHead | can i wipe WM 6.1 ? | 09:37 |
| _RadioHead | inside is Windows Mobile Pro 6.1 | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | no | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | you can't flash android to your phone | 09:39 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: how can i install it? | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | not at this time at least. i'm sure if you want a brick | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean? did you read any threads? | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | how did you come here? | 09:39 |
| _RadioHead | websites dude , i read some manualsd but thought to come here and ask | 09:40 |
| arrrghhh | well those guides are going to be much more in-depth than me explaining it to you | 09:40 |
| arrrghhh | we're here to help, not hold your hand. | 09:41 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: well totally true dude , its my first time and actualy i was quiet busy to carefully analyse docs... thats why i ask here | 09:41 |
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| _RadioHead | anyway u r right Agin | 09:41 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | so what's the problem? | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried installing it? | 09:41 |
| _RadioHead | sorry Agin TAB completition | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | it's pretty simple, extract, drop to root of sd | 09:42 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: i am afraid if i can screw my phone? | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | grab the correct startup.txt | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | run haret | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | if you're afraid stick to winmo | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | it shouldn't "screw your phone", but it's all at your own risk. | 09:42 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: i dont have sd only internal memory | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | your internal memory is A FREAKIN SD CARD | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'm so sick of saying that. | 09:42 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: as you say my own risk and i will take it | 09:42 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: good | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | it's a 4gb SD soldered directly to the board. | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | so don't treat it any differently. you just can't remove it. | 09:43 |
| _RadioHead | dude today is my first day with HTC dont mind me | 09:43 |
| _RadioHead | ok | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | your first day with HTC? | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | you just got your DIAM today? | 09:43 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: yes | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | well then. you have a lot of reading to do :P | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | xda-devs is a great site, just use search liberally. | 09:43 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: :) and i am @ werk :) and damn busy | 09:44 |
| _RadioHead | thank you arrrghhh | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | ok... | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | if you're busy, probably should actually work instead of being in IRC :P | 09:44 |
| _RadioHead | arrrghhh: :) well init work now , laterz | 09:44 |
| _RadioHead | back 2 work later | 09:45 |
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| arrrghhh | oy. | 09:45 |
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| mes | the remapping of buttons a few weeks ago put home on home and menu on trackball? which used to be needed to make a CTL or escape. how does one do that now, er make a CTL-c? | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | menu on trackball? | 12:41 |
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| arrrghhh | what phone has a trackball that's supported by xdandroid? | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | virtual kbd i'd guess. | 12:42 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, R^7Z, who says: Merry Christmas! | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 13:01 |
| mes | what do you call the key that used to be on the home key on a fuze? it's now on the little round thing in the middle of the capacitive area | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | center button? | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | is that what you're calling at trackball? | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | it's more of a concave ball lol | 13:06 |
| mes | yes it is, it used to make a ctl or esc, now it doesn't | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | it used to be enter | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's menu now? | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a raph/diam sorry | 13:08 |
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| F22 | mes: it all depends on your "navi_pad" key layout file in your rootfs.img. Which rootfs.img are you using? | 13:31 |
| F22 | hey arrrghhh: no problem on stealing my post. | 13:32 |
| F22 | mes: i believe the key to which you are referring is dpad center. | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | good | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i already did :P | 13:34 |
| F22 | lol, i saw. | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think you'd mind. | 13:34 |
| F22 | nope, not at all. | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i made the executive decision. | 13:34 |
| F22 | lol | 13:34 |
| F22 | mes: i actually have a rootfs.img you may want to try out. it adds some stuff to the fuze keymap/layout. let me know if you're interested and i'll dig up the link for you. | 13:38 |
| F22 | can't believe it's the day before xmas already | 13:39 |
| F22 | devs needs to work harder so camera will be ready by tonight. :P | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | i keep tryin to get reef to release a blazn build | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | even if it's just slapped together. | 13:57 |
| F22 | people are mourning the loss of blazin... | 13:59 |
| F22 | or blazn, or however its spelled. :P | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | BLAZN i believe is the correct nomenclature. | 14:00 |
| F22 | more like OUTDATED these days :P | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i almost wish he would pull it down | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | just answered someone's post, first time using xdandroid and they went for the blazn buil | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | build | 14:01 |
| F22 | that would certainly reduce the complaints about it | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | and they're complaining about people not being able to hear him on phone calls... | 14:01 |
| F22 | yep, poor clueless noobs. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, when i was a newbie i felt bad asking questions. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | i would search for hours before asking a question. | 14:01 |
| F22 | me too, i don't recall asking very many. none on the forum. i just did lots of searches. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | probably why i learned so much about troubleshooting the project. | 14:01 |
| F22 | no doubt | 14:02 |
| F22 | i wonder if glemsom will return before i run out of room to add kernels to my 1st post in the new kernels thread. :P | 14:03 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: i thought reef said that there was only one thing holding up blazn. | 14:06 |
| F22 | of course he's been on that one thing for over a month. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried to help him with it too | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | changing the color of the top bar basically | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i can change the font color | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | but if i (or he) tries to change the color of the actual bar, it results in an unbootable system image. | 14:08 |
| F22 | -that- is what's holding the project up? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | inbootable? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i guess neither is a word. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | that's what is holding up blazn | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | i guess he's got a new theme ready to drop in | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | looks freakin sweet. | 14:09 |
| F22 | non-bootable? although i think a lot of people say unbootable. | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea, non-bootable is probably the correct term :P | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm a grammar nazi, i try not to force it on others tho. | 14:09 |
| F22 | lol | 14:09 |
| F22 | where does the color change get made? | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | specifically? | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | i'll have to look at my notes | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | in the system image tho | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | basically i loop mount the system image on a linux box | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | then hack it up. | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | problem is the titlebar change requires some hex mess. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | which i'm sure that's where the issue is... just not sure how to resolve it. | 14:12 |
| F22 | you haven't tried changing it in source? | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's more-or-less what i'm doing... no? | 14:12 |
| F22 | not if you're mounting it via loop. | 14:12 |
| F22 | you're editing the finished product | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'm not sure where to change it in the source then. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | i asked reef about it | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | but he wasn't sure either... he just does the loop mount. | 14:13 |
| F22 | if you had a linux system, i'd tell you to use grep. grep is a dear friend when it comes for digging for where things get done in the code... | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon now | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | you know me | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | i have a build environ setup for pumping out system images. | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | on mah linux server. | 14:14 |
| F22 | then you're already set up. lol. | 14:14 |
| F22 | for some reason i thought you were stuck on windows, but that's because you use windows for adb... | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'm stuck on winblows at work. | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | can't really get around that unfortunately. | 14:16 |
| F22 | grep is a very handy and powerful tool command line tool when digging through large amounts of source code, especially when combined with wildcards. | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've used grep | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | quite a bit. | 14:16 |
| F22 | * scratches out the redundant "tool". | 14:16 |
| * arrrghhh is dumb, but not completely ignorant :P | 14:16 | |
| F22 | look for a string that's unique to whatever it is you edit when you change the bar color. | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea i can try when i get home. i guess i could try now | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | supposed to be workin on this call center crap. | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather give it mah full attention tho :P | 14:18 |
| F22 | well just don't get yourself fired over this. :P | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | ha, that's pretty difficult in my company. | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | we're not gov't, but close ;) | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | (financial institution) | 14:19 |
| F22 | lol | 14:19 |
| F22 | damn bailouts... :P | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | didn't take a single penny | 14:19 |
| F22 | cool | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | actually we're doing great with this whole downturn. everyone is putting their cash into savings accts. | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | we're a very conservative bank, in most definitions of the word. so we didn't have a single sub-prime loan. | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | don't/didn't. | 14:20 |
| F22 | the wall street way: capitalize the gains and socialize the losses. | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that drives me f-ing nuts. | 14:20 |
| mes | F22, sure I'd be interested in any thing that had | < > on the hardware keyboard. the rootfs.img I use is the one built from git, Nov 10th was the last rebuild | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | there's some employees here with the banker mentality. f- the consumer basically. | 14:21 |
| F22 | mes: those are all mapped in the rootfs.img i put up. | 14:21 |
| F22 | mes: which model rhod do you have? | 14:21 |
| mes | raph110, ATT fuze | 14:21 |
| F22 | mes: doh | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:22 |
| F22 | mes: you mentioned that. lol. | 14:22 |
| F22 | mes: not sure if the one i posted to the home, power & end thread has fuze in it. i'm fairly certain the one i posted to the german keyboard thread does. i'll get you a download link. | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | did you post a thread in the raph section? | 14:23 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: lol, nope. that would make too much sense, i was waiting to get around to the other raph models. | 14:24 |
| F22 | ;) | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | no worries | 14:24 |
| F22 | fuze is the only one i've done so far for raph. | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | just need you to commit it all. then it won't be a problem :P | 14:24 |
| F22 | mes: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mxnppll067wxx2w | 14:25 |
| mes | F22, thanks | 14:25 |
| F22 | mes: that's a rootfs.img i built on Nov. 22nd. Add b4=HOME to your startup.txt | 14:26 |
| F22 | mes: er...whoops, no. scratch that. | 14:26 |
| F22 | mes: let me take another look at what i have in there for fuze. | 14:26 |
| F22 | i've been so busy optimizing my kernel auto-builder and dealing with kernel questions to put much time into my keymap/layout project of late. | 14:28 |
| F22 | ahhh...i see what i did. | 14:31 |
| F22 | i mapped OK to DPAD_CENTER, which behaves as ctrl. | 14:31 |
| F22 | fn-. is > and fn-, is < | 14:32 |
| F22 | fn-l is | | 14:32 |
| F22 | mes: see above ^ | 14:33 |
| mes | that is in the image linked above? | 14:36 |
| F22 | yep | 14:36 |
| F22 | don't worry about the b4=HOME thing, that's rhodium only. | 14:36 |
| F22 | fuze already has a home button according to the pic i have of it, it doesn't need to replace end call with home. | 14:37 |
| mes | as long as the keycodes are in there I should be able to remap them to the SMS IM ... keys that are useless | 14:38 |
| F22 | envelope i mapped as search. but you can do what you want once you have it. | 14:39 |
| F22 | i didn't touch SMS/Contacts. That's still call. | 14:41 |
| F22 | although now that i'm looking more closely at the layout, i'm wondering if the other dpad keys are correct. | 14:45 |
| F22 | the image i have of the kbd has DPAD_UP on line row 4, but the key layout has DPAD_RIGHT on line 4 instead. Either the mapping is incorrect, or the ordering of the key scan codes is wrong. | 14:46 |
| F22 | could just be an ordering issue | 14:46 |
| F22 | then you wouldn't notice a problem, it's only an issue if someone decides to change it and changes the wrong one. | 14:46 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: i wish i had made a spreadsheet documenting the key map/layout changes from the beginning. | 14:51 |
| F22 | with 9 different rhodium models, it's rather cumbersome writing up the changes to each separately, and no two are exactly alike. | 14:52 |
| mes | F22, dpad_center is great on OK, and even with the key chord any pipe is better than none | 15:12 |
| mes | the only thing I notice is lots of multiple key presses | 15:13 |
| mes | any changes you made might affect that? or should I just reboot and see is that is it | 15:13 |
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| arrrghhh | rootfs should have no effect on "multiple key presses" | 15:32 |
| mes | yes, a reboot did the trick | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:35 |
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| ringer13 | anyone using an HTC Desire in here | 15:40 |
| ringer13 | ? | 15:40 |
| F22 | mes: yes, multiple key presses occurs when system_server goes berserk. that has nothing to do with rootfs as arrrghhh mentioned. | 16:01 |
| F22 | mes: a reboot usually fixes that, although not always. the system_server issue is a royal pain though since it causes other problems too. | 16:02 |
| mes | F22, do you think it is because of hardware state when haret launches? | 16:10 |
| F22 | my suspicion is that there is a connection. | 16:31 |
| F22 | other things people do to work around it include activating places/maps and crashing system_server and then placing a call. | 16:32 |
| F22 | that first and should have been an or. | 16:32 |
| XirXes | i fix it by just activating network location activity | 16:59 |
| XirXes | eg opening maps | 16:59 |
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| Mrjunky | I have a Samsung Captivate froyo 2.2 fully rooted installed Clockworkmod rom manager followed instructions step by step and for some reason when I restart the phone to recovery screen it displays "Android" and Samsung not the Clockworksmod recovery screen sure could use some help...... thanks | 23:27 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Wrong place to ask. Try #android. This channel is for Android on HTC Winmo devices. | 23:32 |
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