| raf_ | sorry what's the best way to do that? PM in http://forum.xda-developers.com/? | 00:00 |
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| F22 | that works, although i believe he's on ppcgeeks more often. | 00:01 |
| raf_ | ok cool thanks | 00:01 |
| F22 | np | 00:01 |
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| F22 | the_decoy: unfortunately the jit code for msm7X00 has been abandoned and is no longer supported by a development team. it's also rather buggy. where it works well it should speed things up, where it works so-so, it doesn't make a difference, and where it works not so well, it can cause your phone to become unstable or to crash hard and return to the boot animation screen. | 00:13 |
| F22 | the_decoy: it was thus turned off for good reason. it was decided that the extra performance in some tasks weren't worth all the crashes. as an example, adjusting the volume more than one notch while jit was turned on would often crash the phone. | 00:13 |
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| F22 | hey arrrghhh | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | what up | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | just got a juicy juicy logcat | 00:19 |
| F22 | someone was asking about "north_am_dialing=1" on a 400 earlier. | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | why | 00:20 |
| F22 | (11:55:03 PM) raf_: Sprint can't handle phone numbers starting with "+" (e.g. +1-800-123-4567) so this part of the code strips out the "+" when north_am_dialing is set | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | yea gv freaks out | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | if you don't use the north_am_dialing cmdline option. | 00:21 |
| F22 | he wants it to be the default | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | why | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | why can't he just set the damned option in his startup | 00:22 |
| F22 | oh doh, no, i misunderstood him. | 00:22 |
| F22 | he wanted it fixed so it would handle text messages too as well as phone calls. | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | erm | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | gv app handles it fine for me... | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | i dunn | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | o | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | messaging app has never had a problem either... | 00:23 |
| F22 | (11:49:46 PM) raf_: Regarding north_am_dialing: It seems to me that in htcgeneric-ril.c, the line that generates the "AT+CMGS" command (around line 1758) needs to have a conditional based on the north_am_dialing variable, just as the "ATD" command does (around line 1097). | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | jit is enabled... | 00:24 |
| F22 | what about jit? you mean the 3d perf thread? | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | I/dalvikvm( 3295): Jit: resizing JitTable from 1024 to 2048 | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 00:25 |
| F22 | oh, this is your logcat? | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:26 |
| the_decoy | F22: sorry was AFK (read you posts tho) | 00:26 |
| F22 | the_decoy: np | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | so dude F22 - what's up with that build.prop that tiad8 is putting out? | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | it appears to have jit enabled... | 00:27 |
| the_decoy | lol | 00:27 |
| F22 | i haven't touched it. but i was just discussing it with the_decoy here. :P | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | _discuss_ | 00:27 |
| the_decoy | I am trying to de-mystify it to the masses | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | rhode island is neither a road nor an island. discuss. | 00:28 |
| F22 | he asked me what it did. ;) | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | what | 00:28 |
| the_decoy | Other than setting a bunch of incorrect BS for a Neopeek installed on a HTC Dream it basically turns on JIT and turns off CheckJNI | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | jit? | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | so what about the lib | 00:28 |
| the_decoy | The "magical" build.prop | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | obviously the gralloc setting is better | 00:28 |
| the_decoy | dunno about the libGLES libs | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | with the correct memory settings (as i understand it...) | 00:29 |
| the_decoy | I am running the 11/29 just to go with the flow | 00:29 |
| the_decoy | arrrghhh: There are two other settings in that build.prop: dalvik.vm.heapsize=16m (which is assmed default for Froyo anyway IIRC) | 00:30 |
| the_decoy | and compcache=1 | 00:30 |
| the_decoy | sorry ... ro.compcache.default=1 | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | so does the mounted build.prop | 00:31 |
| the_decoy | still haven't found much docs on compcache | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | with jit enabled | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | supersede the system image, with jit disabled? | 00:31 |
| the_decoy | I _thought_ so but you would know better than me | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | don't start with me | 00:32 |
| the_decoy | hehehe | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | i would think so as well tho ;) | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | that would explain my call issues | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | stupid build.prop. | 00:32 |
| the_decoy | as I said to F22, I have had so much drama with system_server while trying to test this build.prop that it is hard to get objective testing | 00:32 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: you were using tiad's build.prop? :P | 00:34 |
| F22 | rofl | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | in the test case... yes i would assume so | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | i was trying to match this dude's setup. | 00:36 |
| F22 | compache i'd imagine would slow things down since it compresses memory and that means every access requires decompression. | 00:39 |
| the_decoy | aha | 00:39 |
| the_decoy | lol | 00:39 |
| the_decoy | I think the whole thing is placebo | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | man we gotta tell people to not use that build.prop. | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | the gralloc definitely helps. acl and bzo made some adjustments to memory alllocation | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | so as i understand it they are "correct" now. | 00:40 |
| F22 | honestly i've thought a lot of what's in that thread was placebo from the very beginning. but tiad and some other seemed so certain, i didn't feel like arguing. | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:40 |
| the_decoy | Would that explain why ACL left xvmalloc.ko out of this Dec-16 kenrel he posted? | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | he's literally just dragging stuff up from old neopeek builds. | 00:40 |
| the_decoy | or was rthat just forgotten like the wlan modules | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how to explain any of acl's actions :P | 00:41 |
| F22 | i think acl probably isn't used to making kernels for non-rhodiums just as i wasn't. | 00:41 |
| the_decoy | lmao | 00:41 |
| F22 | those modules aren't in the linux-msm kernel tree. | 00:41 |
| F22 | apparently there was some debate over which ti wireless module would be used. | 00:42 |
| F22 | so i think they have separate trees. | 00:42 |
| the_decoy | hmm ok | 00:42 |
| F22 | there are two different drivers, one we use for non-rhodium android, and the other for more traditional linux distributions like ubuntu. | 00:43 |
| the_decoy | I am curious about xvmalloc.ko ramzswap.ko and rfkill_backport.ko | 00:44 |
| the_decoy | those are missing too | 00:44 |
| the_decoy | And the thing is, that Dec-16 runs GREAT (minus the lack of wifi) | 00:44 |
| F22 | yes, there were 6 modules i pulled from glemsom's last build that weren't in our kernel tree. | 00:45 |
| the_decoy | like it is hands down the best run I have had with no OC | 00:45 |
| the_decoy | I just rolled back to Dec-11 and straight into another 80% cpu system_server proc | 00:45 |
| F22 | i haven't noticed a difference. but i didn't have constant system_server issues. | 00:46 |
| F22 | i only had that problem on my first boot-up. after that i was clear. | 00:47 |
| F22 | when you went back to the Dec 11 kernel, did you go back to the Dec 11 modules file too? | 00:47 |
| the_decoy | yes of course :) | 00:48 |
| the_decoy | I am noob to xdandroid but I have beeb building kernels since 1997 :P | 00:49 |
| F22 | which if my modules files do you have? the orig without the extra 6 drivers? the second one? or the smaller stripped third version? | 00:49 |
| the_decoy | 2nd one | 00:50 |
| the_decoy | 3rd one | 00:50 |
| the_decoy | sorry | 00:50 |
| the_decoy | lol | 00:50 |
| F22 | heh | 00:50 |
| the_decoy | I never got the 1st, then swapped the 2nd for 3rd | 00:50 |
| F22 | i was just idly curious if you had run it with the 1st since that would have been comparable to acl's. | 00:51 |
| the_decoy | No the link was already borked when I got to it | 00:51 |
| F22 | yep, i didn't want to deal with any more complaints about topaz not working, so i zapped the link to force everyone who had copied the link to fix it. | 00:52 |
| the_decoy | timezone issues, I start work when it is afternoon for you guys | 00:52 |
| F22 | on the other hand i have both the 2nd and 3rd links still up. | 00:52 |
| the_decoy | hmm really? | 00:52 |
| * the_decoy checks | 00:53 | |
| F22 | i updated -my- post. | 00:53 |
| F22 | tiad still has my 2nd link posted in a number of places though. | 00:53 |
| F22 | i don't think he ever posted my third link. | 00:53 |
| F22 | just my first two. | 00:53 |
| the_decoy | his threads kinda messy I am checking now | 00:54 |
| F22 | 1st post should have it. | 00:55 |
| the_decoy | Yep, got it | 00:55 |
| the_decoy | thx | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | i keep trying to get tiad to clean up the first posts | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | he copypastas links to every freakin thread | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | but doesn't clean up his first post to make it easier on teh nooobs | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | i should say copypasta's text to every thread haha | 00:56 |
| the_decoy | arg crap I got the fat one with no wlan :( | 00:57 |
| F22 | fat one with no wlan? | 00:58 |
| F22 | that one shouldn't be up any more. | 00:58 |
| F22 | that should be a dead link. | 00:58 |
| F22 | unless you're talking about acl's... | 00:58 |
| the_decoy | no it was a zip file called zImage and modules.12.11.zip | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | 8MB | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | contains no wlan.ko | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | up on meaupload | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | *megaupload | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V1GCDFHS | 00:59 |
| F22 | i never put anything up on megaupload. | 00:59 |
| the_decoy | rofl | 01:00 |
| F22 | i used mediafire | 01:00 |
| the_decoy | I know just noiticed that | 01:00 |
| the_decoy | Think I've found it this time | 01:00 |
| the_decoy | was in a quoted post on page4 | 01:00 |
| the_decoy | mediafire link for 7.2MB modules | 01:01 |
| F22 | that's the fat one with wlan. :P | 01:01 |
| F22 | yup | 01:01 |
| F22 | they were 6.8, 7.2 and 0.8. | 01:02 |
| the_decoy | yep, got it | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | too much crap | 01:02 |
| the_decoy | now just need to scp them up to a linux box to insert some modules | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | these build.prop's are a disease. | 01:02 |
| the_decoy | yep | 01:02 |
| F22 | the_decoy: what handset did you say you had? | 01:03 |
| the_decoy | And the one fsck'in thing I wanted it to do (change my locale) it still wouldn't do. FML | 01:03 |
| the_decoy | RHOD110 - Telstra TP2 | 01:03 |
| F22 | doh | 01:03 |
| F22 | yep | 01:03 |
| F22 | i remember our previous convo now. | 01:03 |
| the_decoy | That shit must be done in kernel based on keyb | 01:03 |
| the_decoy | really am gonna need to commit my own rhod100_au or rhod110 option | 01:04 |
| F22 | that's all in the rootfs as things currently stand. | 01:05 |
| the_decoy | I get en_UK on every boot and I can tell you that UK Google servers have some serious lag in Australia :P | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | what's wrong on your layout? | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i'm not grasping. | 01:05 |
| the_decoy | Layout is fine | 01:05 |
| the_decoy | but something is telling that rootfs that I am in UK | 01:05 |
| the_decoy | I know for a fact that all the folks in US aren't running around with en_UK as their locale | 01:06 |
| F22 | ah, he believes it's phoning to what it thinks is home in the uk every time he connects with google based on the phone keyboard. | 01:06 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 01:06 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 01:06 |
| the_decoy | No "believe" it is obvious in maps an shit | 01:06 |
| F22 | given that he lives in australia, that's quite a trip. | 01:07 |
| the_decoy | it actaully says contacting google.co.uk | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | i live in the usa, not a problem :D | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder where that is decided tho. | 01:07 |
| the_decoy | my locale is set to "en_UK" when it needs to be "en_AU" | 01:07 |
| the_decoy | lol | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't an android option? | 01:07 |
| the_decoy | There is an app that lets me change it after I have booted but it is a PIA | 01:07 |
| the_decoy | No option (not in a menu anyway) | 01:08 |
| the_decoy | Whole homescreen has to restart and shit after you change lcoale | 01:08 |
| F22 | well, making a copy of the existing uk layout/keymap and calling it rhod110 instead of rhod100_uk is easy enough. not sure if it will fix your problem. but it's not hard to do. | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | babijoee's an aussie | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how he does it | 01:08 |
| the_decoy | I have read through the init scripts that ref the "rhod100_uk" option and none of them set the locale | 01:09 |
| F22 | in fact i'm inclined to doubt that it would fix your problem, but who knows...*shrug*...stranger things have happened. | 01:09 |
| the_decoy | I have grep'ed the netire system.ext2 and root fs | 01:09 |
| F22 | i'd assume that locale is set by either ip or gps info. | 01:09 |
| the_decoy | too much coincidence that the one place in the world it picks is also the keyb location | 01:10 |
| F22 | granted on that one. | 01:10 |
| the_decoy | Has to be something somewhere that is reading that kernel option | 01:10 |
| arrrghhh | it's not a smartpho... oh wait. | 01:10 |
| F22 | lol | 01:11 |
| the_decoy | I can't find anything in rootfs (but I will concede it could still be somewhere in there) | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, would know | 01:11 |
| the_decoy | I have git'ed the repo at home now but haven't had time to grep thru yet | 01:11 |
| the_decoy | Everytime I try to explain it peopel just say "what's wrong with your key map" lol | 01:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea.... | 01:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:12 |
| the_decoy | I don't blame them | 01:12 |
| F22 | hmm...i wonder how the new kernel and all the rest works with the new 3d google maps... | 01:13 |
| the_decoy | lol, that will be some laggy ass shit if I am pulling it from other side of the planet | 01:13 |
| the_decoy | that said, tests with Maps and Navigate have worked pretty good | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | hahhaha | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | bedtime | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | g'nite guys | 01:14 |
| F22 | g'nite | 01:14 |
| the_decoy | At some point I think google just uses geolocation routing stuff to serve the data | 01:14 |
| the_decoy | cool | 01:14 |
| the_decoy | cyas | 01:15 |
| the_decoy | It i friday for me, so back in 2 days | 01:15 |
| F22 | friday here too, but 1:15am friday. ;) | 01:15 |
| the_decoy | 4:15pm :D | 01:15 |
| the_decoy | Almost beer-o-clock | 01:16 |
| F22 | lol | 01:16 |
| F22 | btw, anyone have a problem with the usb charger every so often just deciding to stop charging and the battery running down while still plugged in? | 01:18 |
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| the_decoy | no, more often an issue for me is the SoD happening when plugged in overnight | 01:19 |
| F22 | never had that happen to me. what's your pm.sleep_mode set to? | 01:19 |
| the_decoy | 2 but I am pretty sure it happened on 1 too | 01:19 |
| F22 | well mine is set to 2 also. | 01:20 |
| the_decoy | Man i hate SoD ... on winmo .. on android ... | 01:20 |
| F22 | can you adb into your phone when that happens? | 01:21 |
| the_decoy | Haven't tried yet | 01:21 |
| the_decoy | Currently just curse and reset :P | 01:22 |
| F22 | lol | 01:22 |
| F22 | if you can adb in, you can probably turn it back on once inside, assuming the kernel has the right info for your screen. | 01:23 |
| the_decoy | WOuld make sense, I have done it by calling it once | 01:23 |
| the_decoy | but if I hit too many buttons it is too far gone even for that | 01:23 |
| the_decoy | Forgorive my noobness but still haven't looked in adb | 01:24 |
| the_decoy | I realiuse it is obvious a debugging interface throug hthe usb | 01:24 |
| the_decoy | but an app? for win? linux? | 01:24 |
| F22 | it's a very useful tool for troubleshooting, but also for pushing and pulling files onto and from your handset. it can be used on both linux and windows, although i hear setup is harder on windows. | 01:25 |
| F22 | i know arrrghhh found it painful to get working on windows. i run it on linux however and it's always worked fine for me. i think the main issue is setting up the compile environment for the sdk. | 01:27 |
| F22 | adb is part of the sdk. | 01:28 |
| the_decoy | oh, my sdk env is fine. Just setup a ubuntu VMware host on my Win7 home mcahine | 01:28 |
| the_decoy | ahh | 01:28 |
| F22 | it's in the tools dir. | 01:28 |
| the_decoy | hmm ... guess I will see what the USB device pass though is like in VMware | 01:28 |
| the_decoy | that or I will just linux up an older defunct pc | 01:28 |
| F22 | you can also use adb to get a shell on your hanset. | 01:29 |
| the_decoy | I a pair of spare rack mount Dell PE2850's that would be great but they would make so much noise the wife would kill me | 01:29 |
| F22 | handset | 01:29 |
| F22 | lol | 01:30 |
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| the_decoy | hmm, remote shell :) | 01:30 |
| the_decoy | Current using connectBot to localhost | 01:30 |
| the_decoy | but hwne system_server goes nuts my key input goes mental | 01:31 |
| F22 | yes, i've noticed that too. | 01:31 |
| F22 | it get two or three of every key i press. | 01:31 |
| the_decoy | kkkkkeeeeepppps dddoo iiiiing thiiiiiiis | 01:31 |
| F22 | lol | 01:31 |
| F22 | yup | 01:31 |
| F22 | i've been there | 01:31 |
| the_decoy | sit there just trying to run top and getting tttopp | 01:31 |
| F22 | it's not a problem if you adb in from the other end. | 01:32 |
| XirXes | that crap is the biggest reason i OC | 01:32 |
| the_decoy | hmm, must investigate then | 01:32 |
| F22 | i've found that the more i overclock the more likely i am to have problems with system server. maybe it's just a coincidence, but that's been my experience. i have heard some people say the opp however, that they have more problems when they don't oc. | 01:34 |
| the_decoy | yes I would be in that camp, but I would like to not OC | 01:34 |
| the_decoy | runs very hot | 01:35 |
| the_decoy | and the ambient temp here is already kinda warm :P | 01:35 |
| XirXes | i was just talking about the input thing. my phone doesn't last long in android. maybe 2 hours tops before it locks up | 01:35 |
| the_decoy | oh, lol | 01:35 |
| F22 | are you running FRX02 or 03 Xirx? | 01:36 |
| XirXes | 03 | 01:36 |
| F22 | wow. and you have a 210 like i do. | 01:36 |
| F22 | don't know what to say. mine runs for days at a time. | 01:36 |
| F22 | ever since FRX03. | 01:36 |
| XirXes | without oc i assume. i just cant do it. its to slow for me without it | 01:37 |
| F22 | i'm overclocked to 614400 | 01:37 |
| XirXes | maybe ill try that number then. mine was at 712 or something like that but i took out my oc line for a few days and couldnt remember the number i was using so its at 700000 atm | 01:38 |
| XirXes | you use pm sleep 2 right? | 01:39 |
| F22 | yep, it's by 19.2 MHz increments. | 01:39 |
| F22 | yep, pm.sleep_mode=2 | 01:39 |
| XirXes | hopefully i get better results with this clock. its booting now | 01:42 |
| XirXes | is the reason known why the phones always in landscape when it comes up? | 01:45 |
| F22 | no idea, i haven't had the time to look into it. | 01:46 |
| F22 | i think it's a known issue, just not a high priority one. | 01:46 |
| XirXes | yeah | 01:46 |
| XirXes | i have noticed that if you hit one of the face keys during the boot animation when it gets around to loading the interface itl be in portait | 01:47 |
| F22 | yup, i almost always hit a panel button reflexively to get it in portrait. haven't tried to do it while still on the boot ani though. | 01:48 |
| XirXes | well i knew it would do it after but i tried it before and it worked. i just did it right after the animation started and it worked | 01:49 |
| the_decoy | Well, I gotto go. Thanks for the info F22. cya guys later | 01:50 |
| F22 | Xirx, btw, you mapped the 2nd button to home didn't you if I recall correctly, to match the key right? | 01:50 |
| XirXes | i used to just use the menu key to do the initial unlock | 01:50 |
| F22 | g'nite the_decoy | 01:50 |
| the_decoy | I have re-made acl's modules file and will tets them on the way home. | 01:50 |
| XirXes | i did but now i have a windows key there, the newest 210s are like that | 01:51 |
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| XirXes | its still my home key in both os's tho | 01:51 |
| F22 | they changed them? | 01:51 |
| XirXes | yup | 01:51 |
| F22 | i hate it when they do things like that. | 01:51 |
| XirXes | agreed | 01:51 |
| XirXes | i was pretty upset about it | 01:52 |
| F22 | so which key did you use for menu then? | 01:52 |
| XirXes | call | 01:52 |
| XirXes | end is search | 01:52 |
| F22 | standard android layout with menu and home reversed. | 01:53 |
| XirXes | i dont really think android has a standard layout, more like htc layout | 01:53 |
| XirXes | but yeah, and thats only cause of personal preference | 01:54 |
| F22 | i define standard by nexus one and nexus s. | 01:54 |
| F22 | :P | 01:54 |
| F22 | most android phones aside from the original g1 & magic/mytouch3g have that layout. | 01:54 |
| XirXes | nexus s has it back menu search home | 01:55 |
| F22 | oh does it? hmm...i guess i'm mistaken then. | 01:55 |
| F22 | i assume the galaxy s's match the nexus s. | 01:55 |
| XirXes | ill look | 01:55 |
| XirXes | well the epic has menu home back search, like mine | 01:57 |
| F22 | hmm...the pic of the nexus s that i'm looking at right now looks the same. | 01:57 |
| XirXes | the rest of the s line is with the epic | 01:57 |
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| F22 | i just found some more pics with the bmsh ordering. | 01:59 |
| F22 | wow, the pics don't all agree. | 01:59 |
| XirXes | lol. its like musical buttons | 01:59 |
| XirXes | there all over the place man | 01:59 |
| XirXes | the g2 has hmbs | 02:00 |
| F22 | like the nex one | 02:00 |
| F22 | lol, droid is back menu home search | 02:01 |
| XirXes | yup. man i want that phone. its like they took the tp2 and replaced the business with sexy | 02:01 |
| F22 | g2? | 02:02 |
| XirXes | the droid 2 has a different order than the droid 1 | 02:02 |
| XirXes | yeah the g2 | 02:02 |
| F22 | best buy has them on sale for $50 if you're a new customer. | 02:02 |
| XirXes | my contract reup doesnt hit till feb 2012 | 02:03 |
| F22 | that's quite a ways off... | 02:03 |
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| XirXes | tho i still may be able to get a full discount this upcoming feb | 02:04 |
| XirXes | ive done one year re ups before | 02:04 |
| F22 | at full discount? you mean as in the normal reup price, as opposed to the new cust price. | 02:04 |
| XirXes | i wouldnt be able to do it at best buy. but normal reup price yeah | 02:05 |
| F22 | tmo does have a pretty nice retentions department | 02:06 |
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| XirXes | agreed | 02:06 |
| XirXes | ive never had issues with there cust service | 02:06 |
| i5noc | anyone manage to reloack booloader on nex1 yet? | 02:07 |
| F22 | their cust service has always been A+ as far as i'm concerned. their coverage on the other hand....lol...i will say that their 3G service has improved tremendously over the past year. | 02:07 |
| XirXes | we dont do that here | 02:07 |
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| XirXes | oh agreed | 02:07 |
| XirXes | whenever im not home 3g is amazing | 02:07 |
| F22 | still too many areas where it doesn't exist however. | 02:07 |
| XirXes | i get it in the entire valley i live in | 02:08 |
| XirXes | and i dont go anywhere else so im happy | 02:08 |
| F22 | i get it in my town, but not in any of the surrounding towns. | 02:08 |
| XirXes | that sucks | 02:09 |
| F22 | it goes to crap if i'm in a really solid building | 02:09 |
| F22 | my house is ok though | 02:09 |
| F22 | if i visit any of my family members in the next town over, bye bye 3G. | 02:10 |
| XirXes | i get full edge in my house, so i always use wifi at home | 02:10 |
| XirXes | and my wifi completly obliterates 3g | 02:11 |
| F22 | internet on 2G is like trying to take a drink from one of those little stirring straws for coffee. :P | 02:11 |
| XirXes | lol | 02:11 |
| XirXes | i actually got my tp2 like a month before 3g hit my area | 02:12 |
| F22 | heh, i got mine 2 months before 3G hit my area. | 02:12 |
| F22 | i nearly cancelled... | 02:12 |
| F22 | i was very, very close... | 02:13 |
| F22 | 3G was like a very nice Christmas present last year. | 02:13 |
| XirXes | i wasnt bothered. i had been using edge on my phones before so it was just the same internet i already had | 02:13 |
| F22 | they turned it on like 2 days before Christmas. | 02:14 |
| XirXes | i was very excited to see the H on my phone | 02:14 |
| XirXes | and then i set about learning how to make that H be 3G in winmo | 02:14 |
| F22 | heh | 02:16 |
| F22 | if i were to get a new phone right now it would be a g2. | 02:17 |
| XirXes | thats deff one reason why i was willing to get this phone when there were fairly sexy android devices out. in winmo, theres a regedit for that | 02:18 |
| F22 | nexus s is nice and all, but it doesn't have hspa+, a keyboard, or a removable sd card. | 02:18 |
| XirXes | the other reason was that this had the best screen res on tmo at the time | 02:18 |
| XirXes | No removable sd? blasphamy | 02:18 |
| F22 | exactly | 02:19 |
| XirXes | i would never buy a phone that i couldnt take the data out of phisically | 02:19 |
| XirXes | what if i smash it or something | 02:19 |
| F22 | yes, same reason i got mine. best screen and kbd out at the time, and i knew this project was busy working on getting android on the phone... | 02:19 |
| XirXes | exactly | 02:19 |
| XirXes | if it werent for this hardware being so damn sexy the touch viva would have been my last winmo phone | 02:20 |
| F22 | i hope it isn't another 2 years before tmo has another decent android phone with a kbd. if that's the case i'll be gone by then. | 02:20 |
| XirXes | i fell in love with the tp2 when it was unvield at ces 2009. i told myself then i was gunna get it | 02:21 |
| Naad | Just a quick question, just updated to the 11 december kernel you uploaded F22, i get a loop on the boot animation.. never happened to me before, just give it a reboot or wait for a long while? | 02:22 |
| XirXes | im gunna get the g2 asap. but im jobless so itl prob be a while | 02:22 |
| F22 | if it's looping, reboot. if the reboot doesn't fix it you may need to rename your data.img. | 02:23 |
| F22 | how long has it been looping? | 02:23 |
| Naad | 'bout 10 minutes now i gues.. | 02:24 |
| F22 | it really shouldn't be looping that long. reboot. | 02:24 |
| Naad | i'll give it another go, if it's still not working i'll do the usual things :) | 02:25 |
| F22 | lol, you've been through this before... | 02:26 |
| XirXes | so far so good on the oc, has woken up instantly every time since. always used to hesitate before | 02:26 |
| F22 | sounds good | 02:26 |
| XirXes | have you ever tried minecraft? if you haven | 02:30 |
| XirXes | t dont | 02:30 |
| XirXes | i cant stop | 02:30 |
| F22 | lol | 02:31 |
| F22 | have not | 02:31 |
| F22 | i'll be sure to stay away. | 02:31 |
| XirXes | its just to damn good. its why wasn't on here for 2 weeks | 02:32 |
| F22 | lol | 02:33 |
| F22 | it's a game i take it, one that you have to pay for? | 02:33 |
| XirXes | theres a free version you can try but its really only a taste of the experience. i ended up buying it after spending a few hours in the free version | 02:34 |
| F22 | lol | 02:35 |
| XirXes | its $10 until the 20th then it jumps to $15 till the betas over | 02:35 |
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| XirXes | when its released itl be $20 | 02:36 |
| F22 | I don't have an iPhone, a Mac, any ObjectiveC experience, or a burning desire to pay $100 a year for the privilege of jumping through arbitrary hoops in an opaque app approval process. If there's an iPhone port, it's not coming from me. | 02:36 |
| F22 | *snicker* | 02:36 |
| XirXes | lol | 02:37 |
| F22 | that apparently was the author of minecraft on the possibility of an iphone port. | 02:37 |
| XirXes | its java based so it runs on all desktop os's | 02:37 |
| F22 | interesting way to get early adopters to buy in. | 02:40 |
| F22 | they can then go forth to preach the good news and make converts. | 02:41 |
| XirXes | indeed | 02:41 |
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| F22 | well it's pretty late here, time for bed. | 02:42 |
| XirXes | alright. its been fun | 02:42 |
| XirXes | night | 02:42 |
| F22 | g'nite | 02:42 |
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| i5noc | a | 05:20 |
| i5noc | a | 05:29 |
| i5noc | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 this is a test of the bot, i'll likely regret, oh well. sorry jayne or something | 05:32 |
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| JeffXDA | hey guys | 12:30 |
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| XirXes | stine, did you see? 2.3 hit AOSP | 13:57 |
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| stinebd | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/17/android-2-3-gingerbreads-source-code-now-available/ | 14:00 |
| stinebd | nope, didn't see it | 14:00 |
| XirXes | lol | 14:00 |
| stinebd | until just now | 14:01 |
| stinebd | looks like no named branch yet, it's living in master | 14:02 |
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| XirXes | hmm, are you going to play with it now or wait? | 14:02 |
| stinebd | it's not there yet | 14:06 |
| stinebd | engadget jumped the gun again | 14:06 |
| stinebd | looking through the repositories, there are a few that got updated but it looks like the merge is in progress (and still early) | 14:07 |
| XirXes | yeah, they do that... well at least its happening. | 14:09 |
| XirXes | one of engadgets source links is to a google group created by the guy thats doing the merge, he says he'll put an all clear there when its ready | 14:10 |
| stinebd | why does it always happen on fridays? | 14:15 |
| XirXes | its friday? | 14:21 |
| XirXes | lol | 14:22 |
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| F22 | wistilt seems to be back, 2 kernel patches already, possibly more coming, now gingerbread is hitting. busy day, busy day, and i have to leave soon... :( | 14:27 |
| XirXes | :( indeed for you | 14:28 |
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| emwe | F22: which kernel patches are you talking of? | 16:19 |
| stinebd | the fb crap | 16:22 |
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| emwe | that was not wistilt ;) | 16:24 |
| coolsilver | :P | 16:25 |
| emwe | stinebd: already tested an official kernel build? | 16:26 |
| stinebd | emwe: not yet | 16:27 |
| stinebd | the wistilt thing was just an entry in his list of things causing business | 16:27 |
| emwe | hope the other devices aren't broken. only could test raph. | 16:27 |
| stinebd | i'm sure they are | 16:28 |
| stinebd | the fb thing fixes battery life and angry birds too right? | 16:28 |
| emwe | please go testing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/kernel-packages/linux-msm-2010-12-17-A-66a01da-package.zip | 16:29 |
| emwe | lol | 16:29 |
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| stinebd | lots of outputs! | 16:34 |
| stinebd | wow | 16:35 |
| stinebd | what a difference even on the bootanim | 16:35 |
| emwe | yah, a bit chatty ;) | 16:36 |
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| stinebd | very impressive | 16:37 |
| coolsilver | Any help I can provide to you guys? | 16:38 |
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| XirXes | trying it now on my rhod | 16:40 |
| emwe | coolsilver: just grab the package and test ;) | 16:40 |
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| stinebd | wow this is awesome | 16:42 |
| coolsilver | I'm on nand so :D | 16:42 |
| stinebd | emwe: have you tried google maps with the new fb yet? smooth as silk | 16:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | anyone know if there's a way to check the data.img for errors or problems? I keep getting File I/O errors on the sqlite db's. | 16:43 |
| coolsilver | I been using my phone as a piggy for a while | 16:43 |
| XirXes | the first draw of the boot anim was flickering every frame but after that got REALLY smooth | 16:43 |
| emwe | stinebd: i think, yes. i tried a lot which usually just lagged here ;) | 16:44 |
| emwe | and yes, the flickering is known. at leats for me ;) | 16:44 |
| coolsilver | yea the 3d driver and new FB is nice. | 16:45 |
| XirXes | damn, no wifi | 16:48 |
| stinebd | works on raph | 16:49 |
| XirXes | rhod doesnt have tiwlan | 16:50 |
| XirXes | in the wifi settings it says error | 16:50 |
| XirXes | i assume its cause the bcm module isnt there | 16:50 |
| XirXes | my first boot with it was really bad with it but i rebooted and its buttery smooth | 16:54 |
| emwe | XirXes: hm, i am building with bcm | 16:56 |
| XirXes | sweet. i needs mah wifi. only get edge in my house | 16:57 |
| emwe | i always mix them up... rhod has broadcom and the rest TI, right? | 16:57 |
| XirXes | yeah | 16:57 |
| XirXes | topaz might have broadcom too but idk | 16:57 |
| emwe | nope ;) | 16:58 |
| emwe | i know we have the other thing than rhod. | 16:58 |
| emwe | what's the module name? | 16:59 |
| emwe | ok, bcm4329 | 16:59 |
| emwe | it's in. | 17:00 |
| XirXes | idk, im just an end user. the chip in the rhod is actually a 4325 tho. but i know the driver were using is from the 4329 | 17:00 |
| XirXes | the only difference between the chips is wifi n | 17:02 |
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| stinebd | ok | 18:39 |
| stinebd | gingerbread manifest up | 18:39 |
| stinebd | thank god they upped the bandwidth on the mirrors | 18:41 |
| Krazie | did they upgrade kernel to 2.3 or still messing w/ 2.2? | 18:57 |
| Krazie | i've been so busy lately, no idea wuts going on | 18:57 |
| stinebd | 2.3 kernel?? | 19:04 |
| stinebd | crespo? is that what they're calling nexus s? | 19:07 |
| stinebd | oh god platform/prebuilt | 19:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | Why don't we have a gingerbreadrom yet? | 20:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | You suck stinebd. | 20:15 |
| stinebd | unlike certain secretive megacorporations, i wait to publish source code BEFORE doing releases. | 20:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | But I expect a flashable 2.3 rom that will run from NAND NOW. | 20:17 |
| stinebd | sign up for our beta program to receive a pre-flashed developer device | 20:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 20:18 |
| stinebd | i'm still waiting for that cr48 btw | 20:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 20:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | I heard they stopped them | 20:18 |
| stinebd | from whom? | 20:19 |
| stinebd | as of yesterday they were still shipping | 20:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oh | 20:19 |
| stinebd | in fact there are still tracking numbers trickling in | 20:19 |
| stinebd | 1650 from yesterday so far | 20:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | Someone reported it due to like 5 being sold on them eBay | 20:19 |
| stinebd | they'd probably hit a kill switch for sold notebooks | 20:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | true | 20:24 |
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| TheDeadCPU | This Desire Z needs some stable gingerbread love | 20:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | That SDK port I had was shit | 20:28 |
| stinebd | they always are | 20:28 |
| stinebd | because everything is done in software | 20:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | True | 20:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | But it was fun | 20:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | Cyanogen is working hard on CM7 apperantly | 20:30 |
| stinebd | clone complete | 20:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 20:33 |
| stinebd | hmm | 20:35 |
| stinebd | lol manifest changed | 20:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | Blast it with piss | 20:35 |
| stinebd | it means they missed something | 20:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | Totoro Catbus! | 20:36 |
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| stinebd | merging underway | 21:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | woop | 21:12 |
| stinebd | don't. this is the long and painful part | 21:13 |
| stinebd | dalvik and frameworks/base could be bad | 21:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | I still want to woop | 21:13 |
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| stinebd | interesting | 21:27 |
| stinebd | libgps removed from upstream libhardware_legacy | 21:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | O'rly? | 21:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | Try killing it with fire | 21:27 |
| stinebd | looks like that's all they changed in libhl, so maybe we can push it and it'll all just work | 21:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Rly? | 21:29 |
| stinebd | initial merge done | 21:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | I wish I still had my TP | 21:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | It died | 21:36 |
| stinebd | lol | 21:37 |
| stinebd | <project path="external/chromium" name="platform/external/chromium" /> | 21:37 |
| stinebd | in the gingerbread manifest | 21:38 |
| stinebd | oy | 21:38 |
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| stinebd | new manifest pushed | 21:43 |
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| F22 | emwe: i was talking about your commits, not wistilt's, i was merely commenting that it was good to see him back. | 22:10 |
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| stinebd | building :o | 23:02 |
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