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| SpecR | fellas, somehow I think some apps remain open, they dont have a Quit/Exit option, how can I close them? | 11:26 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Why do you want to close them, if you're still there, that is. | 12:05 |
| SpecR | ?? | 12:11 |
| SpecR | I want to exit/quit I meant | 12:11 |
| SpecR | my baterry goes down quickly and the HTC in brand new | 12:12 |
| SpecR | so I pressume some apps dont exits | 12:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Supposedly android apps in the background don't affect battery like they do in winmo but if you still want to kill them download a task killer from the market. | 12:22 |
| SpecR | JesusFreak316: I dont mean tasks, but apps like chrome, et al | 12:23 |
| SpecR | but will do anyway, thanks | 12:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Task killer kills apps too. | 12:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Search advanced task killer for something like task manager in winmo or itching thumb for webos type task management. | 12:24 |
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| SpecR | thanks a lot | 12:26 |
| F22 | most apps automatically exit when you hit the home button or start another app, the ones that don't should have exit buttons appear when you press menu. if you have a badly behaving app however, you can always kill them manually however by going to settings>programs>running services. | 12:26 |
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| SpecR | F22: yeap, I tryig doing so, yet I thought it should be a quicker way like ps && grep && kill -9 or so | 12:28 |
| SpecR | even the terminal now that I recall dont have an exit button | 12:28 |
| F22 | hitting home or back will automatically exit the terminal. | 12:29 |
| SpecR | ok thanks | 12:29 |
| F22 | most apps do get exited when you leave them, regardless of whether you explicitly closed them. | 12:30 |
| F22 | android does save their state however so if you reopen them, they open a bit faster. | 12:30 |
| SpecR | F22: so that was it | 12:33 |
| SpecR | saves the state, it gave me the impression they were not being closed | 12:33 |
| F22 | yup, same deal if the phone goes to sleep. the app is exited, but the second it wakes up, the first thing it does is reload the app that was on the screen when the phone went to sleep based on the info it saved it before it auto-exited upon going to sleep. | 12:36 |
| SpecR | F22: any url to get understand more the droid? | 12:37 |
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| F22 | SpecR: http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement | 12:44 |
| SpecR | thanks | 12:49 |
| F22 | np | 12:49 |
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| johnboy401 | i need help loading xdandroid to my wm 6.5 | 14:05 |
| SpecR | what's the issue? | 14:10 |
| SpecR | *problem | 14:10 |
| johnboy401 | how do i load it to my phone it is a ext2 file | 14:12 |
| SpecR | install it onto the microSD | 14:13 |
| SpecR | format the SD in FAT32 FS and transfer the xdandroid (depending on your hardware)file onto it | 14:13 |
| johnboy401 | do i copy it or will it install on is own? | 14:15 |
| SpecR | copy it | 14:15 |
| SpecR | the ANDBOOT folder into the root of your SD | 14:15 |
| SpecR | it is pretty well documented btw | 14:15 |
| johnboy401 | i am not sure how to do that | 14:18 |
| SpecR | unzip/unrar the xdandroid image you have downloaded, whithin there is a folder named ANDBOOT, copy it to the (FAT32 formatted) microSD | 14:19 |
| johnboy401 | hold on | 14:21 |
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| johnboy401 | ok i am copying it what boot system to you think i should use | 14:28 |
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| SpecR | johnboy401: the one for your device | 14:28 |
| SpecR | android wont replace wm6.5 it will load from winMo | 14:28 |
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| johnboy401 | ok now u have lost me | 14:30 |
| SpecR | johnboy401: here http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 14:32 |
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| johnboy401 | thanks | 14:32 |
| SpecR | np :) | 14:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | anyone ever get disk i/o errors on sqlite db's? I keep having apps crash because of it | 14:37 |
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| F22 | oh that's neat, if a little odd. | 16:19 |
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| SpecR | does anyone knows aprox by how far are we to being able to use the camera on xdandroid? | 16:55 |
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| oshenn_ | hi | 20:24 |
| the_decoy | hey | 20:24 |
| the_decoy | sor what didn't work | 20:24 |
| the_decoy | ? | 20:24 |
| oshenn_ | i downloaded http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.rar as you said | 20:25 |
| oshenn_ | then changed the system.ext2 at /andboot | 20:25 |
| the_decoy | Hang on. | 20:26 |
| the_decoy | First you need to remove any of the /andboot you had from BLAZN | 20:26 |
| the_decoy | Did BLZN install anything anywehere else? | 20:26 |
| the_decoy | like the startup utlity? | 20:26 |
| oshenn_ | when launch haret.exe - the same message "could not open executable" | 20:27 |
| oshenn_ | i formated the storage card | 20:27 |
| the_decoy | hold on 1min (on a phone call) | 20:27 |
| oshenn_ | sure =) | 20:27 |
| oshenn_ | maybe, it is not for my device | 20:29 |
| oshenn_ | cause when i launch startup utility | 20:30 |
| oshenn_ | the is versions for uk, fr, de...no ru | 20:31 |
| SpecR | it is pretty much straightforward, unpack the rar, copy andboot to the SDCARD, find the appropiate startup.txt for your device, copy it to the andboot directory, click on haret.ext, enjoy | 20:32 |
| the_decoy | Yep, sorry I have just been called out to go fix something in another building (at work right now) | 20:33 |
| the_decoy | I know what you mean about no RU | 20:33 |
| the_decoy | I need one for AU but have to use the rhod100_uk instead :( | 20:33 |
| oshenn_ | and i am not really sure if the one i have is Rhod100 | 20:33 |
| the_decoy | WHat model do you have (it is under the bBATT) | 20:34 |
| the_decoy | eg: mine is actually RHOD110 | 20:34 |
| SpecR | mine RAPH800 \o/ | 20:34 |
| oshenn_ | oh, yeah the same:) | 20:34 |
| the_decoy | sorry, same as ... me? | 20:35 |
| oshenn_ | rhod100 | 20:35 |
| the_decoy | oh, ok | 20:35 |
| the_decoy | then choose rhod100 | 20:35 |
| the_decoy | you can't do the RU lang thing unti llater | 20:35 |
| the_decoy | have to go with EN until then | 20:35 |
| oshenn_ | maybe i should reinstall the WM6.5 on my phone and start from scratch | 20:36 |
| the_decoy | WM6.5 shouldn't really affect it | 20:36 |
| the_decoy | except for those issues with sdk certs | 20:36 |
| the_decoy | but that is just because the apps are not compiled with oem certs | 20:36 |
| oshenn_ | understood | 20:37 |
| oshenn_ | beacuse WM6.5 on my phen is so stupid | 20:38 |
| oshenn_ | works really bad | 20:38 |
| the_decoy | go get NRGZ rom for it | 20:38 |
| the_decoy | I use the basic "Energy Standard" rom | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | oh hang on you need RU | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | :( | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | sorry | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | forgot | 20:39 |
| SpecR | ignorant question, why choosing another language differente to english? Im form PerĂº and use my device in eng with no problems | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | sorry dude, gotto go sort out some stupid shit with a cabling contracter ... wil be back in 10min | 20:40 |
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| oshenn_ | just started the recovery of mobile, back to what was installed in the beginnig | 20:41 |
| oshenn_ | will try that first | 20:41 |
| oshenn_ | no, i dont need ru | 20:41 |
| oshenn_ | need just ENG | 20:42 |
| SpecR | wait a sec | 20:44 |
| SpecR | this is the first successful installation android i made: XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6).cab | 20:47 |
| SpecR | yet i dont find the xda-developers reference page where i found it | 20:47 |
| oshenn_ | need to update all soft now, because my mobile after recovery have WM6.1 | 20:48 |
| oshenn_ | by the way, maybe i can just download NRGZ rom? | 20:49 |
| SpecR | do you already have installed xdandroid? | 20:50 |
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| the_decoy | ok back now | 20:50 |
| oshenn_ | nope, i am have my ophen blank right now | 20:51 |
| oshenn_ | to the time when i just bought it with WM6.1 | 20:51 |
| oshenn_ | now need to update to WM6.5 | 20:51 |
| oshenn_ | and start all over again | 20:52 |
| the_decoy | ok | 20:52 |
| the_decoy | hang on I'll give you link for good fast NRGZ rom' | 20:52 |
| the_decoy | you do have HardSPL don't you? | 20:52 |
| SpecR | oshenn_: thy this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362&page=1 | 20:53 |
| SpecR | *try | 20:53 |
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| SpecR | the_decoy: NRGZ? | 20:54 |
| the_decoy | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773 | 20:54 |
| the_decoy | For Rhodium / Touch Pro 2 | 20:54 |
| the_decoy | Actuall yhe does roms for several phones | 20:54 |
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| SpecR | this is the rom I currently have installed XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE | 20:56 |
| the_decoy | oshenn_: Here is a pretty fast WM6.5.x rom http://hotfile.com/dl/89366668/2eb361d/Energy.RHODIUM.29005.Sense2.5.Dec.13.7z.html | 20:56 |
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| the_decoy | SpecR: rom? | 20:57 |
| the_decoy | XANDROID builds aren't roms | 20:57 |
| the_decoy | they get loaded from SD | 20:57 |
| the_decoy | What phone? | 20:58 |
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| the_decoy | oshenn: you still with us? | 20:58 |
| oshenn | should download if after i upgrate to WM6.5 | 20:58 |
| oshenn | yes, just mistakenly went to your link | 20:59 |
| SpecR | the_decoy: Raph800 | 20:59 |
| the_decoy | Enrgy ROM will update you to WM6.5 .... but you need to make sure you have HardSPL on your phone before you install any cooked roms | 20:59 |
| oshenn | HardSPL - ? | 20:59 |
| the_decoy | Have you ever put any non-official roms on your phone? | 20:59 |
| the_decoy | ok hold up | 21:00 |
| SpecR | I didnt know that about the "rom" denomination | 21:00 |
| oshenn | nope | 21:00 |
| the_decoy | don't run Energy rom yet | 21:00 |
| the_decoy | OliNex HardSPL bootloader | 21:01 |
| the_decoy | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131 | 21:01 |
| the_decoy | The "SPL" is thet 3 color boot loader you go to when you update the rom/firmware | 21:02 |
| the_decoy | HardSPL is a special version of it that you ALWAYS get to even uf you flash a bad rom or kill the rom you have | 21:03 |
| the_decoy | It is pretty much the first thing you ever install on a phone before you start installing custom roms from xda-dev | 21:03 |
| oshenn | gonna run this now Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3.exe | 21:06 |
| the_decoy | Are you on WIn7? | 21:06 |
| oshenn | nope, on mca | 21:06 |
| oshenn | Mac | 21:06 |
| the_decoy | um ... how are you gonna run that then? | 21:06 |
| oshenn | thought i should run it from HTC | 21:07 |
| the_decoy | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 21:07 |
| the_decoy | It must be run from PC | 21:07 |
| the_decoy | Connected to phone with ActiveSync or WDMC | 21:08 |
| oshenn | understood | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | Sorry I should have checked sooner | 21:09 |
| oshenn | i knew hta, in some level i will need that | 21:09 |
| oshenn | was always using that but for the last month, have a mac | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | The good news is that once you have HardSPL you can re-flash WM6.5 roms straight from the SD card | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | You just put the NBH image file on the root of the SD and do the button combo boot to load in to HSPL | 21:10 |
| the_decoy | then you can choose to re-flash from the SD | 21:10 |
| oshenn | let me get the Windows PC from the roomate | 21:11 |
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| oshenn | have instaled actyvesync 4.5 to widows Xp | 21:28 |
| the_decoy | ok cool | 21:29 |
| the_decoy | you will need to temp disable anti virus | 21:29 |
| the_decoy | HardSPL will be seen as something hackish :P | 21:30 |
| the_decoy | Just checking but you def are GSM not CDMA | 21:30 |
| the_decoy | RHOD100 so I think that is def GSM | 21:30 |
| oshenn | now trying to install Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3.exe | 21:31 |
| oshenn | yeah, GSM | 21:32 |
| the_decoy | Make sure WinXP has internet for HardSPL "activation" (the makers had to crack down an people selling it) | 21:32 |
| the_decoy | let me know if you hit _any_ errors | 21:33 |
| oshenn | we use the lan cable, so will transfer my self fully to windows | 21:35 |
| oshenn | :D | 21:35 |
| the_decoy | lan cable? | 21:37 |
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| the_decoy | WinXP must have internet, Phone must be synced with PC, then run HardSPL installer | 21:37 |
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| oshenn_ | got some error | 21:41 |
| oshenn_ | when installing | 21:41 |
| the_decoy | what error? | 21:41 |
| the_decoy | what did phone do | 21:41 |
| oshenn_ | i choosen hte flash hard-spl | 21:42 |
| oshenn_ | asking to use cab instalation | 21:42 |
| the_decoy | cab install? | 21:43 |
| the_decoy | sorry it has been long time since I did it to my TP2 | 21:44 |
| oshenn_ | now ok, just forget to deactivate hte antivirus) | 21:44 |
| the_decoy | ok cool | 21:46 |
| oshenn_ | so now i should install energy rom? | 21:47 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, first check SPL screen | 21:48 |
| the_decoy | With it powered off | 21:49 |
| the_decoy | turn it on with the volume DOWN buytton held down | 21:49 |
| the_decoy | you should see the 3 color screen | 21:49 |
| oshenn_ | have 4 colors | 21:50 |
| the_decoy | ok lol, yep | 21:50 |
| the_decoy | What does it say? | 21:50 |
| the_decoy | OliPro or Olinex? | 21:51 |
| the_decoy | I can't remember which | 21:51 |
| oshenn_ | RHOD 100 32 SS-BC | 21:51 |
| oshenn_ | SPL - 0.85.OliNex | 21:51 |
| the_decoy | YAY! :D | 21:52 |
| oshenn_ | continue? | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | Cool, with it in HardSPL plug it into PC\ | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | it should have "serial" at bottom | 21:52 |
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| the_decoy | Then run the CustomRUU.exe in the Energy ROM package | 21:53 |
| oshenn_ | when it unpluged from the PC - have Serial on the bottom, Now when plug in - "USB" | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | Or alternatively reboot into WM, plug it into you mac and copy t he NBH file to the SD card, then power off/on back into HardSPL and it will offer to flash that NBH | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | oh yeah sorry I meant USB | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | Oh wait | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | Sorry I forgot about Task29 | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | Have you already started? | 21:54 |
| oshenn_ | nope | 21:54 |
| oshenn_ | still see 4 colours :) | 21:55 |
| the_decoy | Wait, when you first got to different rom it is good to wipe the memory | 21:55 |
| the_decoy | I will send you link for task 29 | 21:55 |
| the_decoy | http://valkyrie.htc-files.com/downloads/roms/valkyrie/rhodium/task29.zip | 21:56 |
| the_decoy | from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191 | 21:56 |
| the_decoy | You run that just you would run a rom update | 21:56 |
| oshenn_ | ok, then i am restarting htc and launch it | 21:57 |
| the_decoy | it will wipe the ROM memory clean, then use the reset button while holding down the volume and it will go back into SPL | 21:58 |
| the_decoy | then install the Energy ROM | 21:58 |
| the_decoy | everything working ok? | 21:59 |
| oshenn_ | how do i go back to WM from SPL screen? | 22:00 |
| oshenn_ | take off the battery? | 22:00 |
| the_decoy | If you have run Task29 there is no WM | 22:01 |
| the_decoy | is is gone until you install another one | 22:01 |
| the_decoy | At the end of flashing it should reboot .. but with task 29 it will just hang at HTC boot | 22:02 |
| the_decoy | thats why you need to pop out battery or use reset button | 22:02 |
| the_decoy | but hold down VOL so you get back into SPL | 22:02 |
| the_decoy | Then install new WM6.5 (Energy ROM) | 22:03 |
| the_decoy | Oh I see, where you going to copy NBH to your SD? | 22:04 |
| the_decoy | oshenn? | 22:05 |
| oshenn_ | the SPL screen dont show up buy pushng hte volume button | 22:05 |
| the_decoy | You need to be holding down the VOL DOWN button when you turn it on | 22:06 |
| the_decoy | Pull the battery, Put it back in, Hold down VOL DOWN, power on (still holding VOL) | 22:06 |
| the_decoy | works? | 22:07 |
| oshenn_ | yes) | 22:07 |
| the_decoy | ok thank god for that :P | 22:07 |
| oshenn_ | was thinking the same | 22:08 |
| oshenn_ | :D | 22:08 |
| the_decoy | Always nervous stepping people thu this stuff first time | 22:08 |
| the_decoy | Plug in USB, then run The cUSTOMruu FOR eNERGY rom | 22:08 |
| oshenn_ | runrun customRUU | 22:10 |
| the_decoy | Yes, unzip the package (preferably using 7zip archiver but just something better than WinXP explorer) | 22:12 |
| the_decoy | so that you have CustomRUU.exe and the RHODIMG.NBH file | 22:12 |
| oshenn_ | that or sue | 22:12 |
| the_decoy | CustomRUU will install the NBH rimage onto your phone | 22:13 |
| oshenn_ | no, i got it...it is on his way - 94% | 22:13 |
| the_decoy | Just worth mentioning that some people have found the rom is sometime buggy if the zip is not opened with 7zip so if you have any problems later just try unzipping with 7zip and copy the NBH onto you SD card | 22:14 |
| the_decoy | Then you can re-flash stright from your phone by rebooting into SPL | 22:15 |
| the_decoy | You can do all that from your Mac :D | 22:15 |
| oshenn_ | the last news are great:) | 22:15 |
| the_decoy | OK, I have to go grab some food (lunch here in AU), you will be doing first boot setup on that rom for next 5-10min so I will be back soon | 22:16 |
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| oshenn_ | thanks, it already there | 22:17 |
| the_decoy_away | cool, be back in 10min | 22:17 |
| oshenn_ | enjoy the launch:) | 22:17 |
| oshenn_ | lunch | 22:18 |
| oshenn_ | looks like really cool rom:) | 22:20 |
| oshenn_ | just a bit slow( | 22:21 |
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| the_decoy | hey oshenn | 23:19 |
| oshenn | hey | 23:19 |
| the_decoy | sorry o disappeared | 23:19 |
| the_decoy | bad storm | 23:20 |
| oshenn | com on, i thankful that you helping me | 23:20 |
| the_decoy | lost net | 23:20 |
| oshenn | so you have a bad weather | 23:21 |
| oshenn | now | 23:21 |
| oshenn | where you right now? | 23:21 |
| the_decoy | Brisbane au | 23:23 |
| oshenn | at least it warm there! | 23:24 |
| oshenn | i got the energy rom | 23:25 |
| oshenn | and actually launced the android | 23:25 |
| the_decoy | using droid irc but havimg key lag | 23:25 |
| the_decoy | cool | 23:25 |
| the_decoy | iiiif just. ttype ittt. looks like this. lol | 23:26 |
| oshenn | dont understood the last ) | 23:27 |
| oshenn | however, the camera dont work as on energy as on android( | 23:29 |
| the_decoy | lag onn. my key iiinpuuttt | 23:29 |
| the_decoy | drroiid rrhood = no cammerrra | 23:30 |
| the_decoy | gah | 23:30 |
| the_decoy | reboot. time | 23:30 |
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| the_decoy | ok thats better | 23:35 |
| the_decoy | oshenn: I was justr trying to explain that we don't have working camera drivers yet for Rhodium | 23:37 |
| oshenn | oh ok, what about Energy rom? | 23:37 |
| the_decoy | I was trying to type in irc on my phone but I have been experimenting with startup config and it was running very slow | 23:38 |
| the_decoy | Energy rom, camera should work fine | 23:38 |
| the_decoy | mine does | 23:38 |
| oshenn | in mine it didnt( | 23:39 |
| the_decoy | hmmm, oh | 23:39 |
| the_decoy | what happens? | 23:39 |
| oshenn | but now, every time when i reboot, i will need to launch androind from the beginnig? | 23:39 |
| the_decoy | YEs, you have to load Haret from in WM6.5 | 23:40 |
| the_decoy | There is a "Dual Boot" thing but frankly it doesn't save that much time | 23:40 |
| the_decoy | you still half-boot winmo to get to that | 23:40 |
| the_decoy | With Energy ROM, I don't actually have that exact same ROM on mine (NRGZ updates them every few days) | 23:41 |
| the_decoy | I will re-flash mine now and test | 23:41 |
| oshenn | sure. Now i need to get used to android | 23:46 |
| the_decoy | ROM flashed ... just booting now | 23:46 |
| the_decoy | What happens (in Energy) when uyou try to use camera | 23:47 |
| oshenn | there was some message error | 23:47 |
| oshenn | will reboot and will see | 23:47 |
| the_decoy | Oh, remember what I said about opening the zip file with 7zip. You might want to install 7zip onto you mac | 23:48 |
| the_decoy | Then unzip the NBH image with that, copy it to your SD and re-update from SPL | 23:49 |
| oshenn | i used winrar | 23:50 |
| the_decoy | You did do Task29 before EnergyROM didn't you? | 23:50 |
| oshenn | yes, i did task 29 | 23:50 |
| the_decoy | ok | 23:50 |
| oshenn | by the way, if i would like to go back someday to the offical WM6.5, will it be possible? | 23:52 |
| the_decoy | Yes totally | 23:52 |
| the_decoy | In fact it will probably wipe out the HardSPL while it installs too | 23:52 |
| the_decoy | *maybe | 23:52 |
| the_decoy | I forget if the TP2 HSPL does that or not | 23:53 |
| the_decoy | But you can definite install any ROM now (including official) | 23:53 |
| oshenn | great, just to know if i would like to sell it some day | 23:54 |
| the_decoy | Yes there are even instructions on the Rhodium HardSPL page for restoring it to normal SPL incase of warranty return | 23:54 |
| oshenn | the error: the file 'camera' cannot be opened | 23:55 |
| the_decoy | oh, Have you tried using the "ACTION" button on home screen | 23:55 |
| the_decoy | Then choose camera | 23:56 |
| oshenn | yes, when go there to camera - nothing happens | 23:56 |
| the_decoy | Ha! Yeah camera is dead in this rom lol | 23:58 |
| the_decoy | It is the first rom I have seen him do from the 29xxx branch so obviously something went wrong there | 23:58 |
| oshenn | good news | 23:58 |
| the_decoy | sorry about that | 23:58 |
| oshenn | )) | 23:58 |
| the_decoy | Will send you another link as soon as I find a mirror of his last 2315x build | 23:59 |
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