Friday, 2010-12-03

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xdandroidNew XDAndroid Releases bug 69 filed...07:53
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=69 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, wifi error: unable to scan07:54
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crispeewell no crash, so the fix to the system reboot is to run logcat08:36
crispee:P08:36
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crispeeE/wpa_supplicant (1333): Unhandled driver event: 1811:43
crispeeE/wpa_supplicant (1333): Unhandled driver event: 1111:43
crispeeE/wpa_supplicant (1333): Set_key: Wrong key11:44
crispeearrrghhh: let me know whe you're around11:44
arrrghhhwhat11:46
crispeedo any of the above look like they mean anything?11:47
crispeeare unahdled driver events fatal?11:47
arrrghhhdunno11:47
crispee:)11:47
arrrghhhmaybe...11:47
arrrghhhhave you tried on an open network?11:47
crispeeno11:47
arrrghhhthat just looks like wpa stuff.11:47
crispeeit crashes on the wpa network11:48
crispeeor maybe any network11:48
arrrghhhtry open11:48
arrrghhhsee if it's different.11:48
crispeeok11:48
crispeethnx11:48
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eeehey i was wondering if any1 knew of a good app for tracking the phone?12:55
eeeeven if it is inside a building12:55
arrrghhhunless you have a native android device12:56
arrrghhhi'm not sure what good it would do you12:56
eeelike say if i lost my phone12:56
eeen i wanna check where it is12:56
eeei wanna hop on my pc and know where it is12:56
eeegotta think abt this before it happens12:57
arrrghhhdoes winmo have this?12:58
eeeit does but its a premium feature you have to pay for by windows live mobile12:58
arrrghhhyou pay for it?12:59
eeenoo12:59
arrrghhhlol12:59
arrrghhhwell then.12:59
arrrghhhnot sure why you're concerned about it in android.12:59
eeei was wondering if there were any alternatives12:59
arrrghhhwell they all depend on gps12:59
arrrghhhAFAIK12:59
arrrghhhthey would have to12:59
eeethere's no app which can track a phone signal?13:00
arrrghhhphone signal?13:00
arrrghhhwhat do you mean?13:00
eeelike say when you call the phone, it gives you the coordinates of where it is13:00
eeeits a very useful feature13:01
arrrghhhit does?13:01
eeei don't actually think so13:02
eeebut shouldn;t there be an app?13:02
arrrghhhi think they all depend on gps13:02
eeewell if the phone is indoors, thats almost useless13:03
arrrghhhagreed13:03
eeei have an app which tracks my phone outdoors13:04
eeei send it a specific sms message13:04
eeelike getgpspos13:04
eeeand it will send the coordinates to the sender13:04
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arrrghhheee: what's the point?13:07
eeeif i lost my phone outdoors13:08
arrrghhhlol13:08
eeei could get the coordinates13:08
arrrghhhi guess this happens frequently?13:08
eeewell it could13:08
arrrghhhdo you have another phone to send the txt from?13:08
eeea friend's phone13:08
eee..............13:08
arrrghhhyea but lets say android reboots to winmo.  now you're screwed.13:08
arrrghhhlol13:08
eeeactually tis is on winmo13:09
arrrghhhwhat?  i thought you said you didn't pay for it.13:09
eeethere is a similar app for android13:09
stinebdprotip: you could also use google voice to send that sms13:09
eeeidoes google voice use a data plan?13:09
arrrghhhhaha13:09
arrrghhheee: it does13:10
arrrghhhto send from the phone.13:10
arrrghhhhe's talking about the other direction tho.13:10
stinebderr13:10
stinebdsms != data13:10
eeeoh13:10
arrrghhhstinebd: but if i send an sms from the google voice app within android, it uses data correct?13:10
stinebdthat's totally out of the scope of the discussion, but yes13:10
arrrghhhlol13:11
arrrghhhjust wanted to make sure.13:11
eeeso google voice13:11
eee?13:11
arrrghhhi guess i shouldn't have pulled it in that direciton.13:11
eeehow does that work13:11
eee?13:11
arrrghhhoh boy.13:11
eeecalling a number13:11
eeeor sms13:11
stinebdfor this application, if you send an sms to your phone from gv, the phone will reply via regular sms to gv13:11
arrrghhhit gives you another number, and you setup phones to forward calls from gv to the phones.13:11
stinebdit's basically a free voip routing service (you can't make pure voip calls with it)13:12
eeedo u have to set this up on the phone?13:12
eeeor just use it whenever?13:12
arrrghhhwell there's no winmo app13:12
stinebdhttp://www.google.com/voice13:12
arrrghhhso for winmo it's kinda crippled.13:13
stinebdweb interface works fine in winmo13:13
arrrghhhit works.13:13
arrrghhhworks fine i don't agree with :P13:13
arrrghhhbut that's winmo's fault not google's13:13
eeewhere is the link for sending an sms to the phone13:14
arrrghhhsame13:15
arrrghhhyou need a gv acct13:15
eeei just see the history of the numbers i called before13:16
arrrghhhyou have a gv acct?13:16
eeea google account13:16
eeedoes tat count?13:17
eeeit should13:17
arrrghhhwell i think it's open ow13:17
arrrghhhnow13:17
arrrghhhgv used to be invite only.13:17
eeei have made calls using gv13:18
eeebut i don't see that feature13:18
arrrghhhok so you know how it works13:18
arrrghhhor not13:18
arrrghhhthere's a text button13:18
arrrghhhNext to that "Call" button?13:18
eeeits always going to the history page13:21
eeei make my calls where the inbox is13:22
eeeand there is no text button13:22
eeeperhaps they stoppped?13:22
arrrghhh...13:22
arrrghhhnot in gmail13:22
arrrghhhin google.com/voice13:22
eeei did go there13:23
arrrghhhok13:23
arrrghhhsign in13:23
Sad0felixu.u13:23
eeeCall history Starred Trash Contacts Calling Credit $0.0013:24
eeethose are the only tabs i sees13:24
arrrghhhyou don't have a gv number then.13:24
Sad0felixadd credit ... :p13:24
eeenever mind13:25
eeeyou have to actually save the number as a contact13:25
eeebefore you can send an sms13:25
eeei think this service you have to pay for 213:28
eeeso i;m sticking wit the app13:28
eeethanks though13:28
arrrghhhlol13:28
arrrghhhyou don't pay a dime for gv unless you're making international calls.13:29
arrrghhhbut it's not really a solution you were looking for anyways.13:29
arrrghhhstinebd was just saying there's other ways to send sms messages to phones if you don't have another phone to send the sms.13:29
eeewell so i guess no one knows of an app or any other way to track a phone no matter where it is13:30
eeegiven that it is on and in windows mobile13:30
arrrghhhno winmo talk here.13:31
arrrghhhit's evil13:31
arrrghhhthis is really a support channel for XDAndroid.  not app chat... i mean if someone's used an app they'll probably chime in with some help.13:32
arrrghhhi personally don't see a use for the app you describe, so i've never used one.13:32
arrrghhhi'm sure they're out there, just not sure how well they work with our port.13:32
arrrghhhplus, it just sounds like another huge battery drainer.  just my .02.13:33
arrrghhhphone insurance seems like a better idea than an app :P13:33
stinebdthe two concepts solve different problems13:33
stinebdif someone steals obama's G2 and needs 48 hours to break the encryption on his state secrets file, an app gives you the opportunity to track the attacker down and kill him13:34
arrrghhhlol13:34
arrrghhhi thought he just was worried about losing his phone.13:34
arrrghhhpretty sure eee isn't obama.13:34
arrrghhhmy data isn't that valuable :P13:34
stinebdpeople like you are how wikileaks works :P13:34
arrrghhhremote wipe is useful tho.13:34
arrrghhhhahahaha13:35
arrrghhhseriously.13:35
eeedata may not be valuable13:35
arrrghhhjust much more important people like me.13:35
eeebut the phone itself is13:35
stinebdi for one don't need the embarrassment of someone stealing my raph with the super sekrit honeycomb system image13:35
arrrghhheee: insurance!13:35
arrrghhhlol13:35
arrrghhhstinebd: i'll kill you13:35
arrrghhh:P13:35
eeeu like spending?13:36
eeedon't u?13:36
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Sad0felixor he can cripple even more his home network getting an exchange server and wiping the phone from there in case he loses it, both in winmo or android. still needs data though13:36
arrrghhheee: on insurance?  it's a necessary evil in my eyes.13:36
arrrghhhi'm not going to pay thru the nose if/when i lose my phone, or decide to go swimming with it.13:36
stinebdi did get insurance on my N113:36
stinebdso some day i can snap it in half and get a new phone13:37
arrrghhhgranted that stuff happens rarely, but if it does... i don't want to pay full price.13:37
arrrghhhlol13:37
arrrghhhmy tp1 kbd broke, got a tp2 upgrade for free.  insurance ftw.13:37
eeey pay when there might be an app out there13:37
stinebdinsurance covers things that an app can't possibly solve13:37
Sad0felixI lost just 1 phone in my life, and it felt from my pocket, where wasnt supposed to be while driving mbike... drunk13:38
stinebdlike flushing your phone down a toilet13:38
Sad0felix+113:38
Sad0felixlol13:38
eeeif i break my phone tats a different story13:38
eeebut if i lose it13:38
eeei want it backkk13:38
arrrghhhthen search the market?13:39
arrrghhhi'm just trying to warn you dude.13:39
Sad0felixwtf, no diff at all13:39
arrrghhhyou can't expect the app to work like it does on a native android phone, there might be issues.  and if you feel it's 'mission critical', then you can't have issues with it.13:39
stinebdlookout would probably work in xdandroid13:39
stinebdor antidroidtheft13:40
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stinebdlookout also has a winmo app i think13:40
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Sad0felixyep. outlook ...13:40
stinebdhttps://www.mylookout.com/13:41
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stinebdof course, if someone steals/"finds" your phone, the first thing they'll do is yank the battery, throw your sim away (assuming gsm) and hard reset the phone13:42
arrrghhhcdma ftw?13:43
JBakicHello. I'm trying to figure out which file library I need to download for Android 2.2. All the ones I've downloaded are just 1 file after extraction. IS there one that includes the startup.txt and haret.exe?13:43
stinebdarrrghhh: for cdma, they'll change the esn or meid13:44
arrrghhhyou're downloading the update.13:44
arrrghhhstinebd: lies, you can't do that :P13:44
stinebdand for gsm they'll probably also change the imei13:44
arrrghhhJBakic: that's an update.  what phone?13:44
stinebdhah right13:44
JBakicTouch Pro 213:44
arrrghhhrhod what?13:44
arrrghhhwell it doesn't matter13:45
arrrghhhhttp://www.multiupload.com/XD023XA5AH13:45
arrrghhhdownload that13:45
arrrghhhif you have a rhod100, you'll have to update the kernel or else it won't boot.13:45
JBakicHow will I know if I have the rhod100?13:45
arrrghhhpull the battery13:45
arrrghhhit's on a sticker13:45
arrrghhhin tiny writing13:46
arrrghhhRHODXXX13:46
arrrghhhmine's a RHOD40013:46
stinebdarrrghhh: who distributed that package?13:46
tiger2wanderanyone have problem with SDCard like me: it can format and read from WinMo but not from Windows 7 nor Ubuntu though card reader :(13:46
arrrghhhstinebd: uhm... no one?13:46
stinebd...13:47
stinebdso it magically created and uploaded itself to a file sharing site?13:47
stinebdthe god zip13:47
arrrghhhlol13:47
arrrghhhi "built" that and uploaded it so babijoee could update his bundle.13:47
JBakicMine is a RHOD400 also13:47
arrrghhhgood ole sprint13:47
JBakicUS Cellular actually13:48
arrrghhhthat stole it from sprint :P13:48
stinebdwe don't use file sharing sites13:48
JBakicha probably13:48
stinebdever.13:48
eeek guys gotta go to the lab13:48
eeec ya later13:48
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JBakicso is the full package on the XDandroid site?13:48
arrrghhhstinebd: i asked him to mirror it elsewhere13:48
arrrghhhbut he just put that link up.13:48
stinebdare you capable with ssh+sftp?13:49
arrrghhhstinebd: oh yea.13:49
stinebdthen i shall create a mirroring system13:49
arrrghhh:D13:49
stinebdpubkey auth only13:50
arrrghhhso long as i have a priv key13:50
arrrghhhi'm sure that'll be fine :P13:50
JBakicThanks for the assist arrrghhh.13:55
arrrghhhnp13:55
arrrghhhthat'll be $2013:55
JBakicSure here ya go :)13:55
arrrghhhbah, none of you guys were probably in htc-linux-chat to see that ridiculousness.13:55
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arrrghhhah well13:58
arrrghhhfood time13:58
arrrghhhbbl13:58
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joe_____hey is there a flashable android for tilt 214:00
joe_____i have this ext2 i dont understand how to use it14:01
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Sad0felixlol14:04
Sad0felixu have to download the full build, not just the update14:04
Sad0felixI am on mobile so can't easily copypasta the link14:05
Sad0felixgo to the xda forum for rhodium14:05
Sad0felixcarefully read the first 3 or 4 posts14:06
Sad0felixthe full build should be in post 314:06
Sad0felixcffc14:11
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JBakicHey again guys, can someone point me to the full 2.2 package on the downloads section of this site? I tried downloading the file from where arrrghhh told me to and it was an invalid compresed file14:48
JBakicdidn;t work14:48
JBakic:(14:48
stinebdarrrghhh: please pm or email me your pubkey14:50
arrrghhhJBakic: that file works.14:50
arrrghhhi know it does14:50
arrrghhhstinebd: 1 sec14:50
JBakicmaybe I downloaded the wrong file, it was not real clear which link on that page to use...I clciked one of the download links at the bottom and after about 3 windows it downloaded a file that would not open with winzip or 7-zip14:53
arrrghhhJBakic: you must not have downloaded the right one...14:53
arrrghhhthere was a "direct download" linke14:54
JBakicarrrghhh: can you send me the link again please?14:56
arrrghhhmuch to stinebd's demise14:56
arrrghhhhttp://www.multiupload.com/XD023XA5AH14:56
arrrghhhdemise isn't the right word14:56
stinebdi hope it's not14:56
arrrghhhlol14:56
arrrghhhmuch to your loathing?14:56
stinebdchagrin14:57
arrrghhhah good one.14:57
JBakicarrrghhh: thanks, thrying again, I used the top link that said direct download.15:00
arrrghhhk15:00
arrrghhhthat's why i love multiupload15:00
arrrghhhthey mirror to a ton of other sites, but their direct download isn't full of bs.15:00
stinebdand it's slow as ballsacks15:01
arrrghhhmultiupload?15:01
stinebdyeah15:02
arrrghhheh i haven't really noticed it being slower than any of my other HTTP downloads.15:02
stinebdwell it certainly doesn't keep up with my pathetic 20Mbit home connection15:02
arrrghhheh i rarely have any http download keep up with my crappy cxn.15:03
Sad0felixlaterz every115:03
arrrghhhbt is the only time i ever really hit my dl limit.15:03
arrrghhhcya Sad0felix15:03
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stinebd<3 lftp15:11
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JBakicarrghhh: thanks that worked that time. cu15:16
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buzz2289does anyone have word on when sd card recognition will be added or how i can contribute?16:44
arrrghhhfix it :D16:45
arrrghhhi doubt it's going to work until we get full NAND16:45
arrrghhhi guess on the hd2 it works, but it's buggy and causes issues AFAIK.16:45
buzz2289ok, cause i found two versions of the XDandroid project the one that comes in a .CAB file everything except use of gsm/sim ard services work16:46
buzz2289ard = and16:47
buzz2289would it be possible for me to contribute? i have alot of experience in programming in the linux/windows systems16:49
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arrrghhhof course16:54
arrrghhheverything is open source here, all the git trees are available.16:54
arrrghhhthe .cab should be the same, but i don't use it.16:56
arrrghhhmuch easier to just extract a .rar file to my sd card.16:56
buzz2289how would i go aboout doing this? i would like to work on making camera and SD possible i just dont know what program(s) woould be sufficient16:56
buzz2289thats the way i did.... but i tried the .cab first and it sees and can use the sd but use and recognition of sim cam is null, (no service)16:57
arrrghhhyou're a programmer?17:00
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buzz2289not by license, but generally speaking yes, i have been playing with computers for six years and, linux for three17:02
buzz2289and i like a new challenge17:02
arrrghhhhrm.17:02
arrrghhhyou may have led me on there :P17:02
arrrghhhi'm not going to discourage you from helping17:03
arrrghhhbut it's not exactly easy to just jump into development of a project like this.17:03
buzz2289it wouldn't be a first, i customized an ubuntu edition. not actually putting it out, but a complete UI change, but namely i want to get the camera and drivers working for camera and SD cards,17:05
arrrghhhwell the sd card thing17:06
arrrghhhit's mounted by linux (android)17:07
arrrghhhin winmo, the sd card unmounts from the OS to mount on your PC17:07
buzz2289i do understand that, but when you use a program like music within the Android OS it says "no SD card prepared" but in OI File Manager it sees it just fine17:08
arrrghhhoh17:13
arrrghhhthat's easy17:13
arrrghhhformat the card17:13
arrrghhhwith gparted17:13
arrrghhhor the hp tool17:13
arrrghhhjust don't use windows or winmo default utilities to format the card.17:13
arrrghhhi thought you were talking about USB mass storage.17:13
buzz2289OOOOHHHH!! thats it??? yeesh i feel retarded, so just format? no extra partitioning?17:15
buzz2289EXT 2 3 4? FAT?17:17
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arrrghhhfat.  always.17:20
arrrghhhext2 is only for the neopeek builds.17:20
buzz2289alright cool, now what about building the kernel for the camera?>17:20
arrrghhhwhat do you mean?17:21
arrrghhhcamera doesn't work.17:21
buzz2289thats my point, i want to create kernel/driver to make it work17:23
rrewdo you have and C, asm,.... knowledge?17:23
buzz2289C++ but not quite asm17:24
arrrghhhmany devs have tried to fix the camera.17:24
arrrghhhyou certainly can try17:24
buzz2289ok, many huh? that may make me no diff then17:24
rrewbtw hey arrrghhh long time no see :P17:25
arrrghhhhaha yea, what's up.17:25
emwebuzz2289: for an overview of what's happening camera wise, take a look at the recent activities here: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm17:25
rrewahh nothing been busy with school and those booring stuff, you know... :P17:25
emweschool.. long time ago ;)17:26
emweand hey btw17:26
rrewhey ho :P17:26
arrrghhhhaha17:26
rrewanyway i think i found some free time17:26
rrewfinally :)17:27
emwecan you share some with me please? ;)17:28
rrewhehe17:28
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emwebrb517:29
rrewemwe did you try the gralloc stuff from acl, do you see some diff in neocore?17:29
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arrrghhhmy neocore scores went down17:33
arrrghhhbut i haven't tried the new gralloc stuff.17:33
arrrghhhi was just messing with the .so file.17:33
rrewi tried all of the latest files and getting 17,7 fps without sound17:35
rrewdunno how acl hit the 20fps17:36
arrrghhhsome were reporting 21+17:36
rrewrunning neocore again will see if something changes17:37
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rrewxD 17,8 :P17:38
arrrghhhhahaha17:39
arrrghhhare you oc'ing17:39
arrrghhhi got slightly better scores with an oc, which is expected.17:39
arrrghhhi hit 19 once...17:39
rrewno, stock clocks here17:39
arrrghhhbut that was without the lib change17:39
rrewnah i think that our bottle neck is the fb, if we find a way to settle that up we will have around 30fps17:41
rrewi think17:41
arrrghhhmeh17:42
arrrghhhperhaps.17:42
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emwerrew: i tried, but my somehow my data.img was broken and neocore didn't even work. reset everything and without the patched files (just the regular ones) getting 17.2fps without OC.17:42
emwei am waiting for the final stuff...17:43
rrewkk17:43
rrewbtw i saw that you managed to fix the autobl :P17:46
arrrghhhemwe is a GENIUS!!!1!1!!111 :p17:48
rrewyep i agree17:49
rrewarrrghhh did you started familiarizing with the kernel dev,.. ? :P17:49
arrrghhhlol17:50
arrrghhhi wish17:50
emwearrrghhh: please no. the others are the genious'es. i am just lurking around.17:50
rrewwell emwe you are not alone :P17:50
emwehehe ;)17:50
arrrghhhhahaha17:50
arrrghhhyea i've yet to really fix anything.17:51
emwebtw, the incall-mic issue is still open. if you like to give it a try;)17:51
rrewbut hey contributing to the community in anyway is a good step forward :)17:51
arrrghhhi can't really take credit for the jit disable, although it was borne from a problem i was trying to fix.17:51
emwei never had jit issues i think ;)17:51
rrewemwe still freezing after 8 sec...?17:51
stinebdwell i can certainly take credit for it17:52
emweno, that is something different... well, it might be related. when it freezes after 8/9 seconds, it's the modem processor (ARM9) crashing17:52
arrrghhhemwe: oh you had jit issues.  trust me.17:52
emwelol.17:53
stinebdneocore = 19.7 fps with the [acl] modifications17:53
arrrghhhlol @ stine.  yes, i guess you can... even tho it wasn't really your idea, you just wanted to help me troubleshoot the issue as well :P17:53
stinebdno sound and no oc17:53
stinebdso no change for me17:53
rrewanyway regarding the incall-mic, the mic was working good before acl pushed some changes17:53
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rrewstinebd, using the latest files?17:54
arrrghhhstinebd: same, no change for me.  i never got 19.7 tho, 18.9 was my highest :P17:54
arrrghhhrrew: this stuff hasn't been committed yet.17:54
stinebdarrrghhh: don't forget i'm on vga, not wvga17:54
arrrghhhso the newest won't have it17:54
arrrghhhstinebd: oh right less pixels to push.17:54
rrewahh that is the point, my highest is the 17,8 :P17:55
emwerrew: hm, really? perhaps all that freaking snd_state stuff broke more then it is useful for. still haven't figured it's full purpose.17:55
rrewyeah17:55
rrewthat big snd commit17:56
rrewbroke the incall-mic17:56
rrewbefore that i havent noticed any problems with mic17:56
arrrghhhman good thing i don't get paid based on the number of things i fix.  i'd get like $10 for today.17:57
rrewi looked up a bit the snd commit from acl back in the days when the mic prob occured and i think i found something but forgot in the meantime xD17:58
rrewanyway that commit fixed something with the speakers iirc17:59
stinebdpretty sure the rhod had no external sound before that18:00
arrrghhharound august i recall18:00
arrrghhhis when sound started workin for rhod.18:00
arrrghhhi got my rhod right after sound was enabled :P18:00
rrew:P18:00
arrrghhhah well headed home.  cya guys on the flip side.18:01
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rrewanyway a lot of the stuff here on topaz were working corectly before the commit than the mic issue appeard18:01
emwehmhmhm. i think it's related to those snd_state changes.18:01
emwei had incal-mic working fine for like 24hours :)18:01
rrew:), anyway i will take a look at the snd changes and try it on my device18:02
rrewdoes rhod has still problems with the init/deinit seq for the panel?18:04
stinebdno18:09
rrewemwe, are you going to be here in the following days so we can tackle the incall-mic prob together or i will have to do on my own?18:19
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emwerrew: ehm, i think not tomorrow. not sure about sunday. i am usually around though.18:21
rrewok, np, gnight guys and girls :P18:23
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agentsparrowrunning arrrgh package frx03 on raph110. I get the deep sleep sometimes when I initiate a call, i can sometimes bring it out of deep sleep but calling the phone from another. And sometimes the buttons stop working properly. I can't go back or home or end call etc.18:41
agentsparrowbut=by18:41
agentsparrowor rather the home/end/back/call buttons only do left press/right press18:43
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20101204_005141) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101204_005141-package.tar.bz219:02
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20101204_010857) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101204_010857-package.tar.bz219:17
stinebdzomg19:21
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AceSmytheHey, is it safe to run xdandroid from my regualr 8gb SD card? will it delete any of the other content?19:45
stinebdit's safe19:45
stinebdhopefully19:45
AceSmytheheh19:46
AceSmythehave you ever heard any worst-cases?19:46
stinebdsometimes linux/android doesn't like the fat32 structures and will need the card to be reformatted before it likes it19:47
stinebdbut no data loss because of that19:47
AceSmythebut it's not going to do it automatically? :p19:47
AceSmythek19:48
stinebd(unless you reformat it without backing stuff up)19:48
AceSmytheright right19:48
AceSmythewhen you run xdandorid, is the system's local memory not used?19:48
stinebdit's not19:48
AceSmytheinteresting19:48
stinebdit runs exclusively off of the sd card (specifically a few filesystem images)19:48
AceSmytheso it's like running debian in windows7 through virtual box ( ie: out of a virtual disk image )19:49
AceSmythealso, are the other files on the SD card safe? will I be able to accedd them or is the files I see in droid within a virtual disk image?19:50
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stinebdyou'll be able to access the entire sd card from android19:54
stinebdthere's no virtualization or anything occurring. haret (the "bootloader" we use) loads the linux kernel into memory, halts winmo execution, and begins executing the linux kernel19:54
AceSmytheah19:55
AceSmytheand it just goes back to winmo on reboot?19:55
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stinebdright19:56
AceSmythethat's a little slice of fucking awesome19:56
AceSmytheI see that the startup prepairs a filesystem on the card19:56
arrrghhhmy freakin ears!19:56
AceSmythedoes it do that all within the anaboot dir19:56
AceSmythe?19:56
AceSmytheandboot*19:57
arrrghhhit mounts some virtual file systems basically19:59
stinebdit prepares a filesystem image19:59
arrrghhhthe system.ext2 file is a system image19:59
arrrghhhthat is mounted with --bind to a device within linux.19:59
stinebdno --bind19:59
stinebd-o loop19:59
arrrghhhoh right.19:59
AceSmytheso the app and data directories are in an image?19:59
arrrghhhapp and data directories?20:00
stinebdthe entire system (with the exception of /sdcard) is contained in the images20:00
arrrghhhapps and user custom crap goes in the data.img20:00
AceSmytheoh20:00
AceSmythewow20:00
arrrghhhso anything you change or add20:00
arrrghhhgoes in that file.20:00
stinebd/ is in rootfs.img, /data is in data.img, and /system is in system.ext220:00
arrrghhhwithin android that is.20:00
AceSmytheI just wanted to make sure a bunch of new folders wernt gonna end up on the card :p20:00
arrrghhhi think it does create some20:00
stinebdthere will be a couple, but that's just because of the way android works20:00
arrrghhhindeed20:00
arrrghhhandroid needs them!20:01
arrrghhhanyhoo food time, i was just looking up a menu :P  cya guys20:01
AceSmythedoes it stick them in the root or within andboot?20:01
AceSmytheof the SD card20:01
stinebdin the root20:02
AceSmytheboo20:02
AceSmytheoh well20:02
stinebdthe images go in andboot/, the android stuff goes in sdcard root20:02
AceSmytheHas this been known to brick anything?20:03
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AceSmythehey, my rhodium has sound outside of call mode20:22
AceSmythenice20:22
AceSmythehow come it cant connect through the phone network? is that not supports?20:23
AceSmythesupported*20:23
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AceSmythehey reefer20:31
AceSmythehow come it cant connect through the phone network? is that not supported?20:31
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slim_hi21:06
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AceSmythexdandroid fucked up the files on my card21:40
TheDeadCPUNo it didn't.21:41
TheDeadCPUYOU did21:41
AceSmytheconsidering I didt touch those files, xdandorid did i21:43
TheDeadCPUNo, something YOU did with XDAndroid did it21:43
AceSmythehaha, touchy touchy. It's broken shit, deal with it.21:43
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TheDeadCPULOL21:43
TheDeadCPUReefermattness, did you get all that with you? lolol21:44
Reefermattnesslol wtf21:46
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TheDeadCPUHere's a paste from #XDA-Devs21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> AceSmythe, you fail21:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> nope21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> Then why do all the bugs you got ONLY happen for you?21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> Seems like Pebkac.21:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> "all the bugs"? I booted xdandroid, I installed angry birds, it didnt work, I restarted, and the programs installed on the SD card were all corrupt21:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> seems like a fucked up hack21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> lol21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> OFC angrybirds doesn't work on a phone that doesn't have OpenGLES 2.021:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> no kidding, I had to kill the process21:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> that's why I got bored and rebooted21:48
TheDeadCPU<TheDeadCPU> Dude, your phone doesn't have the hardware to run AngryBirds.21:48
TheDeadCPU<AceSmythe> crapy andrid hack doesnt even work21:48
slim_is there a method to unlock screen in case if touchscreen damaged ?22:01
TheDeadCPUI think it's the menu button22:05
slim_thanks TheDeadCPU22:06
TheDeadCPUnp22:06
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crispeeLOL22:30
crispeejust saw what Dead pasted22:30
crispeealmost as funny as arrghs camera bug post22:31
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arrrghhhgreat logs.  very classy lol22:40
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