| RogueAgent[TP2] | f22: the ones for the home key and the task switch | 00:08 |
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| F22 | yes, i have a b4=HOME cmdline option in my rootfs which will eventually get submitted. | 00:10 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | what is b4? | 00:12 |
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| F22 | front panel button 4, ie. the end call button | 00:21 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 00:21 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i take it you just end calls by using the on screen button? | 00:21 |
| F22 | two choices, that's one. the second is to enable power to end calls also. | 00:22 |
| F22 | there is an option to set that in accessibility | 00:23 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 00:26 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | so if ur on a call the power button will hang up | 00:26 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | but all other times it turns the screen off? | 00:26 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | also if u hold your end button now does it allow you to switch apps? | 00:27 |
| F22 | yes | 00:30 |
| F22 | to both questions | 00:30 |
| F22 | http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mxnppll067wxx2w <--- if you want to try it out. | 00:31 |
| XirXes | are you saying you made the in call touch ui toggle through the startup.txt? | 00:32 |
| F22 | no. i haven't touched the in call touch ui at all. | 00:33 |
| XirXes | i figured you just menu hitting menu | 00:34 |
| F22 | there is an option in settings->accessibility named "Power Button Ends Call" that may be selected. | 00:34 |
| F22 | that's already part of froyo. | 00:34 |
| XirXes | nice. didnt know about that | 00:34 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | oh sweet | 00:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its the newest rootfs also | 00:36 |
| F22 | yup | 00:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | have you ever thought of making the make call button do that? | 00:37 |
| F22 | do what? home/recent apps list? or end call? | 00:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | home/recent apps | 00:38 |
| F22 | not really, but it's theoretically possible, unless microp handles its three buttons differently. button 4 is handled by a different event from the first three. not sure why htc set it up that way. | 00:40 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 00:40 |
| F22 | the nice thing about mapping it to b4 is that i can have all the rhod's share the same layout files. the navi_pad layouts are all the same. | 00:43 |
| F22 | they don't differ among the different models. | 00:43 |
| F22 | the microp layouts however are all different. | 00:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 00:44 |
| F22 | os if we changed one of those, we'd need to create a new layout file for each model, of which we currently have nine in our repo. | 00:44 |
| F22 | os=so | 00:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | quick question f22 any other changes in your rootfs | 00:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | just kinda strange its 2mb bigger then the stock one | 00:44 |
| F22 | working symbol key, working control key in terminal emulator, a bunch of other new keys. | 00:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | oh | 00:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | nifty | 00:45 |
| F22 | what model do you have? | 00:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | rhod500 | 00:46 |
| F22 | haven't had someone with the verizon model test it yet, cool. i'll pull up the changelist for that model.. | 00:47 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 00:48 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | do i have to do something special to have your rootfs changes take effect? | 00:48 |
| F22 | only if you want the end call button to behave as home/recent apps. | 00:49 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | and whats the special thing? | 00:49 |
| F22 | b4=HOME on cmdline in startup.txt | 00:50 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | oh yeah | 00:51 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | lol | 00:51 |
| F22 | | { } [ ] ` < > as fn-t a s z x q c and v. | 00:51 |
| F22 | <tab> as fn-<space> | 00:51 |
| F22 | it's a bit bigger than stock for two reasons, the more significant reason is that i compiled on a 64 bit system, so there's a bit more file overhead in the result. the second is that i decompiled the keymap binaries for which we had no sources and added the sources back in. | 00:54 |
| F22 | everything i build myself is larger than stock, even with no mods. | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | im consued about those sentences | 00:56 |
| F22 | consued? | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | im guessing tey are waht u added | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | confused | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | sorry | 00:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | so those symbols are now bound to fn- and those letters | 00:57 |
| F22 | oh, yes. those are the new keys. | 00:57 |
| F22 | yes. | 00:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | and tab is fn-space? | 00:57 |
| F22 | yes | 00:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | rgr | 00:57 |
| F22 | rgr? | 00:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Roger | 00:57 |
| F22 | heh, ok. | 00:58 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | wonder how far whatsit is on the kb backlight | 00:58 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | so all i have to do is add b4=home into startup.txt? | 00:59 |
| F22 | yup | 00:59 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ooo | 00:59 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I might have an issue | 00:59 |
| F22 | i know that bit works because i'm using it myself right now. | 00:59 |
| F22 | what's the issue? | 01:00 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | just realized i didn't do my own startup.txt | 01:00 |
| F22 | you have sov's startup utility? | 01:00 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yes | 01:00 |
| F22 | well i've never used his utility. i always edit mine by hand. :P i can tell you how to edit it by hand if you want. i've heard there is a way to manually edit it in his utility also. | 01:01 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yea there is | 01:01 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | im going to boot into android with his startup and save it | 01:02 |
| F22 | ok | 01:02 |
| F22 | fyi, here is a copy of my cmdline in startup.txt: | 01:03 |
| F22 | set cmdline "lcd.density=240 b4=HOME clock-7x00.a11=500 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=614400 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=2 force_cdma=0 physkeyboard=rhod210 rel_path=andboot" | 01:03 |
| F22 | only overclocking to 600 MHz currently. | 01:04 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | wait | 01:05 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | is all that yuou need for startup.tx? | 01:06 |
| F22 | there is more in the file | 01:06 |
| F22 | that's just set cmdline | 01:06 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 01:06 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | whats the lcd.density and sleep mode do? | 01:06 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | actually ill go look it up | 01:07 |
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| F22 | lcd.density is for all rhodiums is 240. not all XDAndroid handsets are wvga, nor are they the same size screens. | 01:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 01:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | and damn it startup.txt is all blank again | 01:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | time to manually do it | 01:08 |
| F22 | sleep mode is how deep asleep the handset falls while it's asleep, ie how much stuff gets turned off. | 01:09 |
| F22 | even htc doesn't use sleep mode 0 apparently. sleep mode 1 can cause problems if you overclock, somethings your handset won't wake up. so if you overclock, sleep mode 2 is recommended. | 01:10 |
| F22 | somethings=sometimes | 01:10 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | where can i find the rhod500 startup.txt? | 01:10 |
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| F22 | two places, there should be a link on reef's site to it, but there should also be a copy in the reference build. at least i know there is in the base package that the reference build was built from. i can dig it up. | 01:12 |
| F22 | do you see a STARTUP CONFIG folder within andboot? | 01:13 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | nope | 01:13 |
| F22 | where is arrrghhh with his quick links when i need him. he's got them all bookmarked. :P | 01:14 |
| F22 | give me a min, i'll dig it up. | 01:14 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | found it | 01:17 |
| F22 | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/configs.zip <-- has the latest i think | 01:17 |
| F22 | hmm...it's a generic file for all rhodiums | 01:18 |
| F22 | really, the only thing that varies is the keyboard definition | 01:18 |
| F22 | otherwise they're all pretty much the same. | 01:18 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmmm | 01:19 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i have hte oone rom reef and the one from that zip | 01:19 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | and they are different | 01:20 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 | 01:20 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | what is this lien for? | 01:20 |
| F22 | i think reef's is slightly out of date. but i don't think it does any harm either. | 01:20 |
| F22 | the calibration line is no longer necessary i've heard. | 01:20 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 01:20 |
| F22 | i don't use it and mine works just fine. | 01:20 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | his also doesn't have the clock line | 01:21 |
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| F22 | that sets the speed of the a11 chip, not sure why i have it and reef doesn't. i think i copied it over after looking at one of the veteran dev's startups when i first started out. | 01:23 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 01:24 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | should i leave it at what its at? | 01:24 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | clock-7x00.a11=500 | 01:25 |
| F22 | honestly, i have no idea. all i can say is that my phone is very stable right now. | 01:25 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | :P | 01:25 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Do I still have to force hdware 3d? | 01:25 |
| F22 | no, that's another one that i think is obsolete. | 01:25 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | what about hte prox sensor? | 01:25 |
| F22 | you mean gsensor? or are you seeing a prox sensor line in there too? | 01:27 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its in reefs list of cmdline switches | 01:27 |
| F22 | i don't think it's in his rhodium 500 startup though. | 01:28 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its not | 01:29 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i just didn't know if the proximity sensor line is outdated or not | 01:30 |
| F22 | http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/startdir/rhod500.txt | 01:30 |
| F22 | i've never seen it any of the rhodium startup.txt's i've seen. | 01:30 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 01:30 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | that one has a new line | 01:30 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i don't see anywhere | 01:30 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | which is that pmem one | 01:31 |
| F22 | ah, leave that out. | 01:31 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | set cmdline "lcd.density=240 b4=HOME clock-7x00.a11=500 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=786432 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=-1,-2,3 pm.sleep_mode=2 force_cdma=1 physkeyboard=rhod210 rel_path=andboot" | 01:31 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | does that look good? | 01:31 |
| F22 | change the physkeyboard= line | 01:32 |
| F22 | you don't have a 210 | 01:32 |
| F22 | you have a 500 | 01:32 |
| F22 | you have a pretty high overclock there. has your phone run stable at that speed in the past? | 01:34 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yes | 01:34 |
| F22 | ok | 01:34 |
| F22 | clock headroom varies from phone to phone. | 01:35 |
| F22 | i forget which gsensor_axis is recommended now. i think it's 2,1,3 or i wouldn't have used it. i researched them both when i started out. but it's been awhile. | 01:37 |
| F22 | reef's is 2,1,3 too. | 01:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 01:38 |
| F22 | out of curiosity, where did you get -1,-2,3 from? | 01:42 |
| F22 | i -believe- they both work, there just may be some apps for which 2,1,3 works better. -1,-2,3 was the original setting people were using, then the recommendation got changed to 2,1,3 for the rhodium. | 01:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah | 01:46 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | um | 01:46 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i got that from the startup in that zip you gave me | 01:46 |
| F22 | lol, it can be confusing with all the files and web sites floating around. one site hears about some changes but not others, the other site hears about a different subset of changes...lol. | 01:50 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmmm | 01:52 |
| F22 | reef was the best source for rhodium updates because he had one himself and was very closely monitoring development. but then he got a samsung galaxy s and he hasn't been around as much. blazn has languished. the maintainer of the official repo doesn't have a rhodium on the other hand. | 01:52 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | it doesn;t seem as smooth as it usually does | 01:52 |
| F22 | you booted up with it? | 01:53 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yeah | 01:53 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'm in android now | 01:53 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | seems laggy | 01:54 |
| F22 | give it 10 minutes, then tell me if it's still sluggish. | 01:54 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | it has been 10 minutes :P | 01:54 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmmm | 01:55 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its broke | 01:55 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | :( | 01:55 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'll restart it and see what happens, wasn't letting me download stuff | 01:55 |
| F22 | too sluggish? or a different issue? | 01:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | no | 01:59 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | no downloading of market | 01:59 |
| F22 | let me know how the restart goes | 02:00 |
| F22 | do the keys work right? | 02:00 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yeah | 02:00 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yes | 02:00 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'm also going to throw in that 3d hardware force | 02:00 |
| F22 | the other option is to rename data.img to something else and see how it works with a fresh data.img. do you have titanium backup? | 02:01 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | nope | 02:02 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | was brand new install | 02:03 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ive just now started using it | 02:03 |
| F22 | ah, so no real worries if you blow data.img away. | 02:03 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | just recopying it over | 02:07 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i have a 1.5gig data.img | 02:07 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Seems to be working fine now | 02:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'll be able to truly tell once angry birds gets installed | 02:09 |
| F22 | xdandroid has some odd intermittent sluggishness issues, i wish we could determine the source of them. | 02:09 |
| F22 | lol | 02:09 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hey it was playable before | 02:09 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | with some glitches | 02:09 |
| F22 | i've heard | 02:10 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | if its non playable hw3d gets thrown back on | 02:10 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | wish verizon would hurry up and get the desire z | 02:10 |
| F22 | i hope they make it a full droid and don't bingify it. | 02:11 |
| F22 | apparently they're going to make an angry birds lite now. | 02:12 |
| F22 | for less powerful android platforms. | 02:12 |
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| F22 | same playability, just a bit less taxing for more limited 7X00A chipsets... | 02:13 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | oh god | 02:24 |
| F22 | ? | 02:24 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | no graphics glitches | 02:24 |
| F22 | cool | 02:24 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | most of the time | 02:24 |
| F22 | lol | 02:24 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | but the fps is like 0 | 02:24 |
| F22 | FRX03 may hurt you in angry birds even as it makes android more stable overall. | 02:25 |
| F22 | no jit | 02:26 |
| F22 | http://alturl.com/8un9o <--- check this out | 02:26 |
| F22 | the tp's native msm7X00A brothers aren't officially supported either under the current angry birds release. | 02:27 |
| F22 | G1, Magic, Hero, Droid Eris all unsupported... | 02:28 |
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| F22 | a lot of people also seem to be complaining that the last update made the game unplayable. | 02:33 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Kernel_boot_command-line_parameters | 02:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | also what is jit? | 02:48 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | F22 looks like your right the force hw 3d is depecated | 02:55 |
| F22 | jit=just in time compiler | 02:56 |
| F22 | it speeds up program execution in theory | 02:57 |
| F22 | java is an interpreted language, not a compiled one. | 02:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | oh | 02:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | so why does it not have one? | 02:57 |
| F22 | the jit has been desupported and is apparently buggy. | 02:58 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ah ok | 02:58 |
| F22 | so it got dropped from xdandroid in frx03 due to the bugs and the fact that it was no longer being developed. | 03:00 |
| F22 | hence xdandroid's stability has improved markedly, but it may behave a bit more slowly in particularly demanding applications like angry birds. | 03:01 |
| F22 | btw, when i said that people were complaining that the last update made the game unplayable i'm referring to the last update of angry birds. apparently this latest update has made the game more demanding. | 03:07 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yeah | 03:07 |
| F22 | so there are several factors involved here... | 03:07 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i read that | 03:07 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | time to go find a 3rd party homescreen :P | 03:07 |
| F22 | time for me to get some sleep. :D | 03:07 |
| F22 | so all is well with my rootfs now? | 03:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yep | 03:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ty | 03:08 |
| F22 | great :) | 03:08 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | do you use the default screen or do u have one ud recommend? | 03:08 |
| F22 | i have an image that i downloaded of a spiral galaxy that i use as my wallpaper. i'm fine with the google search widget on my default screen since we don't currently have a search button on the panel. | 03:12 |
| F22 | oh, btw, your envelope key should also act as search now in that rootfs you downloaded. | 03:12 |
| F22 | forgot to mention that one earlier. :D | 03:12 |
| F22 | but you need the keyboard open to access that one. | 03:13 |
| F22 | anyways, have a good night | 03:15 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 03:19 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | is the rhodium a hdpi screen | 03:19 |
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| aquaviva | hello all | 03:57 |
| aquaviva | i have a issue on xdandroid 2.2 it not detects my sd-card (Internal Storage) on htc diamond, any advice? | 03:58 |
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| TheDeadCPU | I love the Desire Z. | 06:23 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, woody, who says: Thanks for all the hard work | 09:02 |
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| kwoodyusa | hi arrrghhh do you know the status of getting the audio dongle for the tilt2 working? I looked around on the bug list and did not see it listed. | 09:22 |
| arrrghhh | oh you're one of those poor gsm folks | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | that has to use the usb dongle.. | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | no clue | 09:23 |
| kwoodyusa | yep :( | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it's going to get fixed anytime soon. | 09:23 |
| kwoodyusa | ok just wondering. | 09:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's on a few people's wishlist, but i haven't seen any devs take a serious look at it. | 09:24 |
| arrrghhh | works on blackstone, so in theory it should be simple to get it working. | 09:24 |
| arrrghhh | but nothing is simple if you don't know what you're doing ;) | 09:24 |
| kwoodyusa | lol well if you could put in a good word i would be willing to "donate" ;) | 09:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | you should be willing to donate regardless :P | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | and i've already put in a good word | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | i have an actual 3.5mm jack | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | so i'd like it working too :P | 09:26 |
| kwoodyusa | I wish i new more about software dev. I would love to do stuff like this. I am just a netwoking guy... for now. Thanks for all the help really. and i have donated twice now | 09:28 |
| arrrghhh | haha that's cool. | 09:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to get wistilt to look at it. camro made it sound easy easy, but i tried... and failed. | 09:29 |
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| arrrghhh | nate said he was going to look at it again... not sure how far he'll get. | 09:29 |
| arrrghhh | what's up TheDeadCPU | 09:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | playing with the Desire Z. | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 09:31 |
| arrrghhh | broke the kbd yet? | 09:31 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Nop | 09:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nope* | 09:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nice and superstrong | 09:32 |
| uub11 | arrrghhh, thanks for the reply about angry birds but i was just letting people know what i saw | 09:32 |
| arrrghhh | well i was just letting you know the facts ;) | 09:33 |
| arrrghhh | no clue about this 'angry birds lite' | 09:33 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm assuming it still requires opengles2.0 | 09:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | angrybirds lite is just angrybirds with less levels so it takes less space | 09:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yup | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get why people don't get that | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | you can't play angry birds on a g1 | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | what makes you think it'll work on the tp2? | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | rubes. | 09:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | But.. They're making a Angrybirds for older devices. | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | stfu | 09:34 |
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| TheDeadCPU | But that's older as in Hero (Which is allready runs on ) | 09:34 |
| uub11 | i now it can't run smooth i just thought it had something to do with the memory card not being mounted | 09:35 |
| uub11 | now = know | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | no | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | hardware limitations. | 09:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | hardware limitations. | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | the memory card not being mounted would have nothing whatsoever to do with performance.... | 09:35 |
| uub11 | even if the information isn't being properly read from the memory card? | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | what makes you say that | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | the memory card kinda has to be mounted | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | despite what android says | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | if android is running, android has the sd mounted. | 09:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | There is no memory card when you're running android. | 09:36 |
| arrrghhh | well. it's mounted as /sdcard | 09:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:37 |
| uub11 | i know thedeadcpu but then why does the application give the option to transfer off of the sdcard? | 09:37 |
| arrrghhh | uub11, because native android allows you to do it | 09:37 |
| arrrghhh | 2.2 | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | android doesn't know it's running from an SD | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | it was never technically designed to do what we're doing with it. | 09:38 |
| uub11 | well then i am as much of a noob than.... | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | you can't make assumptions ;) | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | dont' be like that sherri1023 | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | good lord. | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | don't be like her. | 09:38 |
| uub11 | true feel like an ass now..... | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 09:39 |
| uub11 | ok no more talking out of me i'll just lurk and test..... | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | just ask questions. | 09:39 |
| uub11 | :P | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | i don't mind answering questions. just when people make assumptions | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | like our builds have a virus | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | or our builds aren't rooted | 09:40 |
| arrrghhh | makes me want to stab people. | 09:40 |
| uub11 | well that was google marking reefs site wasn't it? | 09:40 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what she was talking about. | 09:40 |
| uub11 | fine i have a question than......i tried that theme reefs made for his captivate using metamorph and everything worked except the top bar it's not transparent...any ideas? | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | no clue, i haven't done anything like that. | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | you do craziness like that, you gotta figure out how to fix it :P | 09:42 |
| uub11 | booooo | 09:43 |
| uub11 | i know he had issues initially with the blazin theme and the top bar i think i'm gonna have to ask him | 09:43 |
| uub11 | note i said ASK!!!! | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | just don't harrass him either. | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to get him to help me build a new blazn for everyone. | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | you harrass the devs, i stab you. | 09:44 |
| uub11 | lol | 09:44 |
| uub11 | i'm a guinea pig not a nagger | 09:44 |
| uub11 | tooooo much | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | nagger | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:44 |
| uub11 | nagging would be saying "what's taking you so long to make a new blazin build" | 09:46 |
| arrrghhh | yes. and doing it every day. | 09:47 |
| uub11 | every hour..... | 09:47 |
| uub11 | ok enough fun i got work to do before i get fired | 09:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 09:47 |
| arrrghhh | LOL did anyone see ftvm's "fix" for the battery stutter issue? | 09:53 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9374495&postcount=3637 | 09:53 |
| arrrghhh | classic | 09:53 |
| uub11 | why would someone offr a fix that would never allow a person to charge there phone? | 09:58 |
| uub11 | offr=offer | 09:58 |
| arrrghhh | because they're insane. | 09:59 |
| arrrghhh | (french) | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | cuz it supposedly fixes the sound stuttering | 10:00 |
| uub11 | lol....ok | 10:00 |
| uub11 | hhhhmmmm sound over charging......that's a tough one | 10:01 |
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| arrrghhh | damn laptop. | 10:04 |
| uub11 | lol | 10:04 |
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| emwe | hi | 10:36 |
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| Naad | Arrrghhh: Any idea on the Rhod_100 boot issues? | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | you tell me dude | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a 100 :P | 12:14 |
| Naad | haha, true. | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | no body from that group has ever come in to hash it out. | 12:14 |
| Naad | well.. the thing is, it does create a data.img, which is working.. | 12:14 |
| Naad | when you boot with the 10/23 kernel | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | well i doubt that's the issue. | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | we need logs man! | 12:17 |
| Naad | What i mean is that the linux boot is going on, but doesn't show. (with new kernels) | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i now | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | know* | 12:17 |
| Naad | ok.. how can i get you those :) does it create a log without booting completely? | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | but we need logs to determine what exactly is going on | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | you can make it :P | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | so what happens | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i hear it freezes at the haret screen | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | no? | 12:17 |
| Naad | yes | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | oh. | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | seems we may need haretconsole or some such thing... | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | damnit i don't get how that's a kernel issue | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | have we ruled everything out?!? | 12:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | woop | 12:18 |
| Naad | done format a few times with HP and panasonic | 12:18 |
| XirXes | if it wasnt a kernel issue you would still see some text | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think the kernel kicked off that quick... does it? | 12:19 |
| Naad | but the weird thing is, a new, working data.img is created | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i thought initrd starts first, then loads the kernel. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't make sense | 12:19 |
| XirXes | the first thing haret does is load the kernel | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's gotta be booting | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:19 |
| Naad | but not all the way, and doesn't display anything | 12:20 |
| XirXes | well yeah but to show anything it has to load the kernel | 12:20 |
| Naad | but it only creates the data.img when the kernel is loaded? | 12:20 |
| XirXes | it would have stopped before that point. | 12:21 |
| XirXes | if the kernel wasnt loaded. we deff need logs | 12:21 |
| Naad | it does create a data.img | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: do you know how we'd get logs if it's hanging at that point? | 12:22 |
| XirXes | nope | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | you can put an entry in the user.conf file | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't think that would happen if it's hanging where it is... | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | we've ruled out startup.txt files? | 12:23 |
| Naad | yes.. | 12:23 |
| Naad | tried without overclock/hw3d | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | i've talked with a few guys on xda | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | well is the zImage set correctly | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | matching the name, y'know | 12:24 |
| Naad | set KERNEL zImage right? | 12:25 |
| Naad | rel_path is also set correct | 12:25 |
| Naad | left out pmem.extra msmts_calib | 12:26 |
| Naad | how would you normally create a log? could try it at least. | 12:26 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: does the kernel match that name? | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | is the rootfs named correctly? | 12:31 |
| Naad | yes | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | well normally you'd get a log from adb | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't think that'll work since the boot process is hanging | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | what's the last kernel that works on it | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | 10/23? | 12:31 |
| Naad | yeah | 12:31 |
| Naad | the first 10/23 | 12:32 |
| Naad | from the one posted later that day problems started | 12:32 |
| uub11 | does it go past the bootanimation? | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:32 |
| Naad | no, gets stuck on haret.exe | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | uub11: lol it never even makes it to the flying text dude... keep up :P | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | there were a lot of commits that day | 12:33 |
| uub11 | just got back from lunch | 12:33 |
| uub11 | =) | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | adsp 6125 tables | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | and autobl | 12:33 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | please ... what setting for avoid black screen of the death ??? ps sleep ??? | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's the rhod100 guy's fault for not testing this :P | 12:33 |
| Naad | 10/23 014031 it is | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: pm.sleep | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | usually only applies to OC | 12:33 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok .... | 12:34 |
| uub11 | we have all seen each rhod have it's own quirks does it even have autobl support? | 12:34 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | where do I put this ??? | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | startup | 12:35 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok | 12:35 |
| Naad | the rhod100_uk has autobacklight in windows mobile | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: ... | 12:35 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | what command exactly, please ? | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | read babijoee's thread. | 12:36 |
| F22 | post 10/23 kernels are making new data.img's before they hang on the 100's? did i hear that correctly? | 12:36 |
| Naad | they get visually stuck on haret.exe | 12:37 |
| Naad | but do create a data.img | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | F22: evidently. | 12:37 |
| F22 | data.img creation is done by the init script | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see how, it supposedly doesn't get that far in the boot process | 12:37 |
| uub11 | maybe it's just visual? | 12:38 |
| F22 | possibly people are confusing text mode with haret? | 12:39 |
| uub11 | sometimes my screen goes black and i can't do anything, i act like i'm going to shut down the phone and back out of it and it starts working again | 12:39 |
| uub11 | the i get a system force close | 12:39 |
| uub11 | then | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | uub11: not what we're talkin bout. | 12:40 |
| uub11 | =p | 12:40 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | pm.sleep ... avoid black screen of the death ??? | 12:40 |
| Naad | F22 what do you mean with confusing text mode and haret? | 12:41 |
| F22 | linux doesn't need a gui to run, people may be assuming it's stuck on haret when the linux kernel is up. | 12:42 |
| uub11 | technical version of what i meant ^ | 12:43 |
| Naad | yes, that's what i said at first :) | 12:44 |
| Naad | maybe it's just the display drivers (or something like that) not kicking in | 12:44 |
| F22 | can you adb into it to get a dmesg? | 12:45 |
| Naad | I was asking before how to get a log.. sort of a noob xD | 12:46 |
| F22 | hmm...not sure myself on what sorts of logs you can get at this point. adb might work if it's up. but if the problem occurs before adb comes up that might not work. | 12:50 |
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| F22 | adb is part of the android sdk. | 12:52 |
| F22 | which you can download from google | 12:53 |
| Naad | thnx. Downloading as we speak. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | adb would be interesting if you can get in | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | otherwise we can try the user.conf trick | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | since it creates the data.img, maybe we'll get lucky. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: nothing solves that problem completely... | 12:54 |
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| arrrghhh | i quite often have the urge to tell you to stick to winmo lol | 12:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 12:57 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok arrrghh ... but, what's the write ??? | 13:00 |
| F22 | =2 | 13:03 |
| TheDeadCPU | sudo rm -rf /* | 13:04 |
| F22 | lol | 13:05 |
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| arrrghhh | oh god | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | don't listen to him | 13:14 |
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| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: what's your question | 13:15 |
| hamagc | sudo rm -rf /system/* | 13:16 |
| hamagc | lol thought that was funny | 13:17 |
| hamagc | maybe rm -rf /data/* ? | 13:17 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | my question is ... please, what command line exactly ??? :( | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | did you read the thread? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | babijoee goes thru most if not all of the commands available | 13:18 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | no, i no look the post ... | 13:19 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | sorry | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | well do it. | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:19 |
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| F22 | arrrghhh, what's the user.conf trick you mentioned earlier? | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | basically putting a dmesg statement in there | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | y'know that rm -rf /sdcard/*.rec statement we put in there? | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | same thing, just dmesg > /sdcard/dmesg.txt or whatever. | 13:29 |
| F22 | ah | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | not pretty, but hey sometimes it gets us logs when phones don't boot. | 13:29 |
| hamagc | lol | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | did he ever get adb to work? | 13:30 |
| F22 | whatever gets done the job done. :D | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | dude kinda disappeared. | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:30 |
| F22 | dunno, last i heard he was working on downloading adb. | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | ja | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | those rhod100 guys | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | we need a committed tester from that group :P | 13:30 |
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| F22 | that we do | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | i thought we tested autobl on their damned phones. | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness! what's up dude. | 13:31 |
| Reefermattness | Sup arrrghhh | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | people are startin to bug be about blazn now :P | 13:31 |
| Reefermattness | just re-setting up my pc | 13:31 |
| Reefermattness | linux mint 10 is next | 13:31 |
| F22 | startin? lol, they've been bugging you about it for awhile now. ;) | 13:31 |
| Reefermattness | yeah F22 but now they are butting him not me :P | 13:31 |
| F22 | lol | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's the idea | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | assuming i can start pumpin 'em out i have no problem | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | but i haven't even started really :P you sound like you're pretty much done tho eh? | 13:33 |
| Aks | there was a build yest for blazn ? | 13:33 |
| Naad | Sorry guys, girlfriend interrupted haha. Don't have adb running... yet :) will take a bit for me to figure out how that stuff works. Working on osx. | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | ew. | 13:37 |
| Reefermattness | well pretty much done yeah but its still the same part ive been stuck on for a while now | 13:37 |
| * arrrghhh stabs Aks in the eye | 13:37 | |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok, I'll get the post arrrghhh ! | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | .. | 13:41 |
| Reefermattness | figure out how to change the clock to white with out FC errors and we are done | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | since i don't even know what you do to get blazn where it's at... | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:49 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hmmmmmmmmm sorry ... i not found the post of babyjoe ... :( | 13:50 |
| F22 | Naad: something else to try. rename your ts-calibration file. it would be interesting to see whether or not the calibration program gets run on boot, and if it does, whether or not there are any issues. | 13:51 |
| Naad | Thanks, will try | 13:52 |
| Naad | have gotten adb running with the working kernel :) I'll get there haha. | 13:52 |
| Reefermattness | arrrghhh, i dont need you to finish it, thats the only 1 bug thats keeping it from release. If you can do it on frx03 then we are set | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | k | 13:52 |
| Naad | now gonna try newest kernel, change calibration file | 13:52 |
| Reefermattness | if we can just figure that out then ill theme it and throw it online. | 13:52 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | this post is on thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: it's in the first four posts of the main thread... | 13:52 |
| Naad | if that doesn;'t work i'll try adb | 13:52 |
| F22 | ok :) | 13:53 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | euhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 13:53 |
| Naad | I'll post here later tonight, pizza in between :) thanks! | 13:53 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i'm stupid !!! | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | yes, it's there ftvm_DIAM100.. | 13:53 |
| uub11 | arrrghhh did you fix the theme yet??? | 13:53 |
| uub11 | =) | 13:53 |
| uub11 | sorry | 13:53 |
| uub11 | back to work | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: i'll play around. not even sure how to change the color in the clock tbh. i'm sure i need some metamorph magic. | 13:53 |
| Reefermattness | no actually its hex editing and xml editing | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | quit trolling dude... leave that to stinebd. | 13:54 |
| Reefermattness | :) | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i can do xml | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure i can learn hex, i used to edit hex files all the damned time. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | been a while tho... | 13:54 |
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| uub11 | i said sorry! | 13:55 |
| uub11 | couldn't resist | 13:55 |
| F22 | the init script is responsible for handling both the creation of data.img which you've told us gets done, and for calibrating the screen, although data image creation is close to the beginning while screen calibration is near the tail end of it. but all that happens before init.android gets run. | 13:55 |
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| uub11 | Hey reefs nice work on that gloss theme for the captivate, i tried on my touchpro2 and it's pretty decent just something's i'm gonna have to learn to fix | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:57 |
| Naad | Aah thanks F22, things start to make sense :) | 13:57 |
| Reefermattness | Thanks dude, how much actually worked on the tp2 from that MM? | 13:58 |
| uub11 | honestly most of it except the dialer buttons and the top curtain | 13:59 |
| uub11 | but i read somewhere metamorph won't change the top curtain | 14:00 |
| Reefermattness | nice, i had not personally tried it but figured most of it would work since we switched to HDPI for the TP2 | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | schweet. | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea the old blazn build is so old... it was before the hdpi switch lol. | 14:00 |
| uub11 | lol | 14:01 |
| uub11 | so it looks like i'm gonna have to check the xml file like arrrghhh if i want to make changes? | 14:01 |
| Reefermattness | xml or hex yeah depends on if you use apk tools to decompile it or not | 14:03 |
| Naad | Device is recognised with adb i believe | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | adb shell works? | 14:04 |
| uub11 | ok | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | you get a prompt? | 14:04 |
| F22 | how did you check? | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | tag-team troubleshooting | 14:04 |
| F22 | lol | 14:05 |
| F22 | yup | 14:05 |
| Naad | uhm.. well if i type adb devices in terminal (osx) it recognises a device | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | adb shell | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | what does it do | 14:05 |
| Naad | # | 14:05 |
| F22 | try sh--ninja'd :P | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | awesome | 14:05 |
| F22 | cool | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | and your phone is currently at the frozen haret screen? | 14:05 |
| Naad | yes | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | siiiick | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | exit out of that | 14:06 |
| F22 | i assume the screen calibration worked too then. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | (just exit) | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | and dump a dmesg. you can just do adb shell dmesg > dmesg.txt | 14:06 |
| F22 | screen calibration gets done beefore the adb server is set up. | 14:06 |
| Naad | i renamed the calibration file btw, so didn't even calibrate | 14:07 |
| Naad | so i typ 'adb shell dmesg > dmesg.txt' | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | it'll output a file, dmesg.txt whereever you run that from | 14:07 |
| F22 | well if adb is working, you don't need to worry about the calibration, that would be more of an issue if adb weren't working. | 14:07 |
| F22 | *points to what arrrghhh said about the dmesg, "what he said". :P | 14:08 |
| Naad | get: 'cannot create dmesg.txt: read-only file system | 14:08 |
| F22 | write it to /sdcard | 14:09 |
| F22 | er /sdcard/dmesg.txt | 14:09 |
| Naad | ok, done | 14:10 |
| Naad | but.. now it's on the sdcard, how do i get there with a non functioning phone? | 14:10 |
| F22 | adb pull | 14:10 |
| F22 | exit | 14:10 |
| F22 | adb pull /sdcard/dmest.txt | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | oh i'm sorry | 14:11 |
| F22 | it will pull the file from the phone onto your computer | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | i thought adb would dump stuff to your local fs... | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | might want to spell dmesg right tho :P | 14:11 |
| F22 | it will if he runs the command on the same line as the shell | 14:11 |
| F22 | but once he shells on, it's all local to the phone. | 14:11 |
| F22 | shells in | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i had it on one line :P | 14:13 |
| F22 | that you did | 14:13 |
| F22 | notice i used the word "he", not "you". ;) | 14:14 |
| Naad | hmm... doesn;t seem to work | 14:14 |
| F22 | the pull doesn't? | 14:14 |
| F22 | er, the command line i gave you wasn't spelled right. | 14:15 |
| Naad | yeah i noticed | 14:15 |
| F22 | was that it? or did it still not work even after spelling dmesg.txt correctly? | 14:15 |
| Naad | ho, it works now, forgot to exit | 14:16 |
| F22 | lol | 14:16 |
| Naad | :) I'm learning | 14:16 |
| Naad | so, i should maybe post this file somewhere.. | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | pastebin | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | or you can file a bug | 14:17 |
| F22 | no worries. we've all been there at one point or another. adb grows on you though. it's quick and easy to use once you're used to it and very flexible. | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | and attach the .txt file to the bug | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | until it breaks... | 14:17 |
| F22 | that's because you're using it on windows... ;) | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | damnit i hate windows and the stupid way it handles hardware drivers. | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea... not much choice here friend :P | 14:17 |
| F22 | my condolences | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | everyone tells me to just run a vm... doesn't work so well when the hardware is crap. | 14:18 |
| F22 | true | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't get why a driver that worked before, now no longer works... | 14:18 |
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| Naad | i'll file a bug :) | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i pointed it to this usb driver before... | 14:19 |
| Naad | it's kernel related right xD | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol yes | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i would definitely say so | 14:19 |
| F22 | it's moody? :P | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i think i am using a different usb port. | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | and windows is stupid and doesn't handle it well | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'm also being stubborn, i don't want to change usb ports. seems i may have to bite the bullet. | 14:20 |
| F22 | lol, the usb port matters? | 14:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | According to me. :P | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | well i think JesusFreak316 is right in the sense that windows thinks it's a different device | 14:21 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 64 filed... | 14:21 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=64 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Rhod100_xx not booting after 10/23 kernels | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | as in if you install something to one usb port, it'll reinstall the drivers if you put it in a differen one | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'm so closing that bug | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 14:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | That's not what I said... | 14:21 |
| F22 | great, finally have a bug report for that. | 14:21 |
| F22 | and even better, a dmesg to go with it. | 14:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | I just know that fronst usb ports don't work as well as some devices as rear motherboard usb ports. | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: well that is what seems to be happening. | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't a desktop dude. | 14:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well then, I'll take the credit. :) | 14:22 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah. | 14:22 |
| Naad | Well, now i really have to get myself a pizza :) so i'll be gone for a bit! | 14:22 |
| F22 | enjoy your pizza Naad. | 14:23 |
| Naad | Thanks for talking me through all this :) I'll check in later (live in Netherlands, so won't stay so long xD 8.23 pm now) | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | so far different port has turned up nothing. | 14:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | I had a dream last night it was Christmas. :( | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | i hate you windows. | 14:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | adb drivers? | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | yes. nothing works for that XDA hardware | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | that's the only one we need to point the drivers to correct? | 14:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does for me... | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | the other two cdc can ignore | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | well it did for me once | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | but now it's not. | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | exact same driver i used before | 14:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | You tried deleting the driver and letting windows redownload it? | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | fawk. always gives me the stupid "Cannot install this hardware" prompt when i point it to the drivers. | 14:26 |
| Naad | btw, i can't call myself, so it doesn't boot so far./ now really pizza =D | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | letting windows redownload it? | 14:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | Via windows update. | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | it's not a driver from windows. you get it with the sdk. | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | windows update doesn't have the driver... | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you setup adb on your windows machine before | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Either way, it installed it automatically when I plugged it in. | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | wtf? | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | i've never had it install automatically | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | i am using xp at work and 7 at home. | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm on 7. | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm calling BS. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | everyone get your broomsticks! | 14:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | You do that. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | sorry that's schenanigans. | 14:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | wut | 14:28 |
| F22 | logcat might be useful too, this seems to be happening while init.android is setting up services. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | logcat probably would be useful... | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | even if it does only show userland stuff. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU XP | 14:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | lolwut | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | adb broke itself again. | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | and i've followed like 100 guides to try and fix it. | 14:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:29 |
| F22 | time to write your own... ;) | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | one guide even had me download some usb driver tool that deleted some hidden drivers or some such nonsense. | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | or just forget about working on my phone at work :( then i might have to work! | 14:30 |
| F22 | terrible thought | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | isn't it tho? | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm just saying go to device manager, go to properties for your device, uninstall the device, then let it search for drivers. | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Works for me. | 14:30 |
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| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: i've tried that... tons. | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well then... | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | if it was that simple, i would've resolved this instantly lol | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does that work at home? | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | on 7? | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon i know basic troubleshooting. i need advanced tatics here. | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | yes... | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | but it used to work here | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | on XP | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | it's broken once before... i somehow fixed it. i think i just reinstalled the drivers. | 14:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | I don't have any xp devices left. | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | yea well i don't have much choice :P | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | we'll probably go to 7 *eventually* | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. it's so easy in linux. | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. If only it had Intel VRT. | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why can't you dual boot? | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | well. i do occasionally work. | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | You need windows to work? | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | i have a lot of downtime at work, but not that much :P i gotta be able to fix crap immediately. | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Not much of an IT guy, eh? :P | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | unfortunately. | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | seriously? | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Real nerds use linux for everything. | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | jk | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | not at work... | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know... | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | :( | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | i used to use linux at my old job | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | my boss hated it | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | but i didn't care, i could get around it | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | here... not so much. there's too much here that requires windows. | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | trust me, if i could get around it, i would. infosec would probably have a heart attack tho lol. | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | they won't even let me use linux at home. | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | they're dicks. | 14:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Can't you just hibernate windows every time you boot linux and be back in a minute though? | 14:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh. | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | eh perhaps | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather not deal with it tho. | 14:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does droidexplorer install drivers? | 14:36 |
| eR^zeRa` | they wont you let use linux at home? | 14:37 |
| eR^zeRa` | wtf? | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | it has drivers. | 14:37 |
| eR^zeRa` | what they care what you use at home? | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: well... i have work from home privileges. | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | and i need remote access because i'm on call sometimes. | 14:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does droidexplorer just not work though? | 14:37 |
| MrObvious | Ok so I have weird button mappings. I haven't used XDAndroid in a few months since I got a Droid Eris. I let my wife use it since her phone went pfffffffffftttttt. The button mappings are different it seems like. | 14:37 |
| eR^zeRa` | aha | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | MrObvious: yes | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | they changed... | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | read up :P | 14:38 |
| MrObvious | The power key is a power key, and so is the call end button. And there is no menu button. | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | lots has changed | 14:38 |
| eR^zeRa` | I thought they wont let you use linux for you own personal matters :D | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | not this again. | 14:38 |
| MrObvious | arrrghhh: :p | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: lol no that would be illegal... i'm pretty sure. we don't live in the USSR :P | 14:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Menu is center, silly. | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: on rhod | 14:38 |
| MrObvious | Oh. | 14:38 |
| MrObvious | Ok. | 14:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, derp. | 14:38 |
| MrObvious | I'd read up if I knew where derr. | 14:38 |
| eR^zeRa` | well there's no USSR anymore | 14:38 |
| eR^zeRa` | :D | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | derp indeed. MrObvious there's several options | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | well where did you download your update? | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | if it's a forum... i'm sure it's been hashed out there like 100x. | 14:39 |
| MrObvious | It's the update you built yesterday. | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | so you are on raph? | 14:39 |
| Naad | i read someone wanted logcat? | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: may be helpful. | 14:39 |
| MrObvious | DIAM500. | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | adb logcat > logcat.txt | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | MrObvious: i'm sorry. | 14:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | HAH, NOT DERP!!! | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | but i think JesusFreak316 is right in this case then. center is menu. | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:39 |
| Naad | ok, i'll do and add to bugreport | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: thanks | 14:40 |
| MrObvious | I think I got it now. :) | 14:40 |
| MrObvious | lol | 14:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, there's no select button anymore. :( | 14:40 |
| MrObvious | I know. Grr! | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | touch the screen? | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | On RAPH you can use enter on the HW keyboard but Diamond has no such luck. | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | ah crap. i hope my server rebooted because it was supposed to... | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | ...tap the screen? | 14:41 |
| MrObvious | That's what I'm gonna do. | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 14:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Our screen is only 2.8 in. | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | awwwwww | 14:41 |
| MrObvious | I wish Swype would work though in Android. | 14:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sometimes zooming is painful. | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | it does | 14:41 |
| eR^zeRa` | I was wondering | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't figure out swype tho | 14:41 |
| MrObvious | I got a beta account and I use it on my Droid Eris but I think the Diamond is VGA. | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | sucked imho | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | diam is vga | 14:41 |
| MrObvious | It only works on HVGA and WVGA. | 14:41 |
| MrObvious | I think. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | ah. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | bummer | 14:42 |
| MrObvious | (last I checked) | 14:42 |
| Naad | creating a logcat.txt takes a while right? | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | i thought diam/raph could use swipe | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: well it runs infinitely | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | so kill it now | 14:42 |
| eR^zeRa` | I dont really have an idea about how things evolve around android and TP2 | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | ctrl-c | 14:42 |
| Naad | haha ok | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: people break stuff, others fix 'em... | 14:42 |
| eR^zeRa` | is there an ETA for NAND boot on tp2?:D | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | tomorrow | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol it's already out dude | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | tp2 has had nand for... months? | 14:43 |
| MrObvious | Is battery life still bad on CDMA? | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | it's not good for anyone MrObvious | 14:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't the NAND incomplete though? | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | but it's significantly better. | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: what is complete!??! | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:43 |
| eR^zeRa` | I mean stable and fully working version :D | 14:43 |
| uub11 | what isn't inicomplete | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: what is stable... :P | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | I mean at least equivalen to the SD one. | 14:44 |
| eR^zeRa` | last time I checked there wasnt even the mic working when making a call | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | erm | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | nand is probably ahead of haret at this point | 14:44 |
| uub11 | i think acl has said they are up to date | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I don't understand the desire to run it as NAND currently. | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | it just got .35 commit so in theory nand can run .35 now. | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | On HD2, sure since they have camera and stuff, but not on here yet. | 14:44 |
| eR^zeRa` | whats .35? | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | kernel version | 14:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Linux kerne. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | 2.6.35 | 14:45 |
| uub11 | hopefully they commit .35 next for haret | 14:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Man, I typoed and still got ninja'd. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol probably not. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | uub11: if it ever does, it'll be quite some time. | 14:45 |
| uub11 | =( | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | that's the problem with this project | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | there's so many phones that it supports | 14:46 |
| Naad | E/libEGL ( 1489): No EGLDisplay for hardware EGL! | 14:46 |
| uub11 | ok now i'm really going back to work | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | it's hard to keep every single change working on every single device. | 14:46 |
| Naad | is that normal? | 14:46 |
| eR^zeRa` | arrrghhh can you gimme a link to some forum that deals with end-user stuff around this ? | 14:46 |
| Naad | i post it now. | 14:46 |
| uub11 | yeah i saw in the logs alex and acl talking about the whole process | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: uhm... there's xda-devs and ppcg. | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | uub11: so you know then... | 14:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | How do people find this channel apart from xda? xdandroid.com? | 14:47 |
| uub11 | yeah wishful thinking that's all | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: i have no clue lol. somehow everyone finds #htc-linux first too. | 14:47 |
| eR^zeRa` | yeah well I visit xda every day, but I'm getting a bit disoriented at times | 14:47 |
| eR^zeRa` | I mean in the android dev thread | 14:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Which one, lol? | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: yea there's a bunch... | 14:48 |
| Naad | logcat.txt is posted with BUG#64 | 14:48 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=64 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Rhod100_xx not booting after 10/23 kernels | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | The Touch Pro/Fuze one is the main one. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: i see that, thanks. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: for you :P | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, that's where most of the updates go. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | thanks to babijoee | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | and partially me. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | reef is lazy updating his threads :P | 14:48 |
| uub11 | lol | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | i wish there was more information | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | why can't you install this driver windows | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | WHY | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. nate is the windows whiz. i need him to save my dumbass. | 14:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | nate? | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | natemcutty or whatever | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, him. | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, what drivers ARE installed? | 14:50 |
| eR^zeRa` | arrrghhh what thread should I read first? | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: afaik none | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | i removed all of them (in theory) | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | :/ | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: uhm.. what device? | 14:50 |
| eR^zeRa` | TP2 | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: probably that thread. | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | reef's faq in that thread is awesome. | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea that one :P | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | That whole google site is awesome. | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i've installed adb no problem on this machine before, so something is stuck in there. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't get what. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should try a different profile | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what difference that would make with hardware, but knowing windows it'll make all the difference. | 14:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Have you tried droidexplorer? Just curious? | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i use to get adb... | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i'm lazy :P | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | So it just doesn't connect? | 14:54 |
| eR^zeRa` | well maybe I wrote something else than I meant | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | is there something specific i should be doing with droid explorer? | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | No devices found? | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: yea. 0 devices found, every time. | 14:54 |
| eR^zeRa` | that thread is for SD boot via HARet | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | well, before it worked. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: you want the nand thread... | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | that's ppcg only | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | You're looking for NAND? | 14:54 |
| eR^zeRa` | yep | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | which i can't get to load | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | for some reason | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | downforeveryoneorjustme.com | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=179 | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | it's in that section whenever it's back up. | 14:55 |
| eR^zeRa` | k thx | 14:55 |
| eR^zeRa` | I'm using NRG roms atm | 14:55 |
| eR^zeRa` | but well ... | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | ok... | 14:56 |
| eR^zeRa` | I'm getting bored of it | 14:56 |
| eR^zeRa` | but I dont know what to expect | 14:56 |
| eR^zeRa` | I mean | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | don't jump into nand dude. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | it's really only meant for testing. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | just like this entire project, don't expect it to replace winmo. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's everyone's mistake... they assume this is meant to replace winmo. | 14:57 |
| eR^zeRa` | well I thought it's too early for that | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i need to take a lunch. | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | must... fix... adb... | 14:58 |
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| eR^zeRa` | must... save... porn... | 14:59 |
| eR^zeRa` | what a resemblence | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:59 |
| eR^zeRa` | http://newfunnypictures.net/data/media/11/Must%20Save%20Porn!.jpg | 15:00 |
| eR^zeRa` | in case you dont already know it :D | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | ah yes | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | i just thought you wanted to save your porn. | 15:00 |
| eR^zeRa` | nope, I dont download that kind of stuff | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | stupid. windows always detects something there... just refuses to use the drivers i point at it. | 15:01 |
| eR^zeRa` | at least I dont keep it on my HDD | 15:01 |
| eR^zeRa` | :D | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | damnit unless it's about fixing my adb i don't care :P | 15:01 |
| eR^zeRa` | :D | 15:01 |
| eR^zeRa` | whats adb | 15:01 |
| eR^zeRa` | :D | 15:01 |
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| F22 | interesting, two microp lines in his dmesg that are not in mine, one clearly relating to bl. need to look at the kernel code to see why it's printing them. | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: ever heard of google? lol | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | android debugging bridge | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | F22: hrm... i swore we tested the 100 | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps we didn't. | 15:15 |
| eR^zeRa` | google? is it some sort of yahoo anwsers? | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | inda | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | kinda* | 15:16 |
| eR^zeRa` | just kidding :D | 15:16 |
| eR^zeRa` | it's like my homepage | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea i know :P | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | dick | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: did you see that russian dude's post? | 15:17 |
| eR^zeRa` | is it just me or did you actually call me a dick? :o | 15:17 |
| F22 | at least one of the lines he's getting that i'm not (haven't checked the other one yet) is printed by drivers/i2c/chips/microp-klt.c which was edited in the Oct. 23rd commit. | 15:17 |
| F22 | it's a status report of some sort | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: yes. i called you a dick. | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | F22: hrm... | 15:18 |
| eR^zeRa` | :/ | 15:18 |
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| eR^zeRa` | I think we cant be friends anymore. | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | didn't realize we were friend. | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | s | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:19 |
| F22 | this one: [ 2.142059] micropklt_spi_bl_status_print: light sensor auto=10=0x0a SPI=136=0x88 | 15:19 |
| * arrrghhh has no friends. and that's how /me likes it :P | 15:19 | |
| arrrghhh | F22: you don't get that? | 15:19 |
| F22 | nope | 15:20 |
| F22 | not in my dmesg | 15:20 |
| F22 | only in his. | 15:20 |
| eR^zeRa` | anyway | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | that is odd | 15:20 |
| eR^zeRa` | Do you know that joke with "no" and "me neither"? | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | eR^zeRa`: we're trying to hash something out... do you mind? | 15:20 |
| eR^zeRa` | nope, go ahead | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | F22: well i wouldn't know where to begin with wistilt2's commit on autobl. | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure that's the problem tho, based on the reports... and the dmesg seems to confirm it. | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if their sensor uses a different code. | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | different gpio that is | 15:21 |
| F22 | hah! and the other line is defined in a different function within the same file! | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | hm? | 15:22 |
| F22 | the other line that is different: [ 2.142364] micropklt_panel_resume | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 15:22 |
| Reefermattness | thats not quite.... correct | 15:22 |
| Reefermattness | but thats what i was gonna try if we couldnt fix it the right way | 15:22 |
| Reefermattness | thats just a hybrid what he did there | 15:23 |
| Reefermattness | lol | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | he claims it works | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder what's messed up. | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | pretty simple hack lol. just grabbed your modded apk basically. | 15:24 |
| F22 | so the story is that the 1st commit on the 23rd still works, but the 2nd breaks rhod100's? | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | i believe that is the story, correct sir. | 15:27 |
| F22 | that's a smaller edit. | 15:28 |
| F22 | only changed that one file | 15:28 |
| F22 | the earlier one was much larger. | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | did it enable something...? | 15:28 |
| F22 | Add the possibility to change auto_bl setting on the fly through dbgfs | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:28 |
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| Naad | Sounds like you guys are getting somewhere! | 15:31 |
| Naad | Indeed the first commit from 10/23 works, second breaks | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | narrowing it down : | 15:32 |
| Naad | Well, at least it getting to the cause... should've come here earlier and file a bugreport right? :P | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | probably :P | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | or been here to test autobl in the first place haha. | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | i swear we tested the 100, but i have no clue who it was. | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | they don't come on very often. | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have these HTC XDA USB devices | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | never seen them before. | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | i can't remember how it looks like when i'm at home tho... | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. removed 'em, didn't seem to fix anything. | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | just odd that the pc thinks there's a usb mass storage device available... | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | hmmmmmmm | 15:37 |
| F22 | damn, the blob history for that file is too large to view online. i need to figure out how to do it manually. | 15:41 |
| F22 | there have been a lot of edits to that file since. | 15:44 |
| Naad | if you need anything else from me then say so, will stay around for another hour i guess.. | 15:45 |
| emwe | auto-bl issues? | 15:48 |
| emwe | (too lazy to reread) | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: yea | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | rhod100 guys can't boot with the autobl changes | 15:49 |
| emwe | as i just grasped the 2nd 20101023 commit breaks it? | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:50 |
| emwe | what means can't boot? device freeze? | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | freezes at haret | 15:51 |
| emwe | hm. the thing is, that the auto-bl setup code in micropklt_panel_resume() looks really strange ;) at least the values | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | looks really strange | 15:52 |
| emwe | i got the topaz values from very old haret i2c traces from Markinus and used them | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | that sounds promising :P | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 15:53 |
| emwe | wistilt siad he got them by ages of debugging and printks() in the kernel | 15:53 |
| emwe | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/drivers/i2c/chips/microp-klt.c#line223 | 15:55 |
| emwe | topa is pretty straigt forward and 0x00 twice as the data for the cmd | 15:55 |
| emwe | and 0x01 for enable | 15:55 |
| emwe | the rhod values look strange. | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 15:55 |
| emwe | and ... rhod is the only device which uses cmd value | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | well all other rhods seem to work | 15:56 |
| emwe | 0x24 instead of 0x22 IIRC | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | just the 100 is being a biatch. | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | that's why i'm wondering if the gpio on the 100 is different. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | that would just be awesome. | 15:57 |
| emwe | hmhm. nobody here to build a kernel with disabled gpio in the rhod panel code? ;) | 15:58 |
| emwe | shall i? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | eh if you want to | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | just to test? | 15:58 |
| emwe | somebody to test around? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | well Naad was the guy | 15:58 |
| F22 | Naad are you around? | 15:58 |
| F22 | he said he'd be around for another hour about 15 minutes ago. | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: If you just wait 2 years after graduating I'll get a job and pay you for this amazing work - LOL just wait 2 years. all your money problems will disappear when this dude graduates. | 16:00 |
| Naad | yes, i'm around | 16:02 |
| F22 | we have our tester emwe. :) | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | k | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | emwe is going to build you a kernel to test. | 16:03 |
| Naad | ok, great | 16:03 |
| Naad | i'm having my pizza now, so won't be talking back fast xD but i'm online | 16:04 |
| emwe | Naad: hi. just see if it boots. it's built from a local tree with some ehm... many modifications. :) | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:04 |
| emwe | i finally get my topa to survive nearly a day | 16:05 |
| Naad | haha ok | 16:05 |
| emwe | btw, is there any rhod issues on first incoming call that mic is not working? | 16:05 |
| F22 | without recharging? or without crashing? :P | 16:05 |
| emwe | F22: without both. haha. | 16:05 |
| F22 | :d | 16:05 |
| emwe | F22: but mostly letting it idle. just wan't to make sure it's still able to receive calls. pm.sleep_mode=1 works for me without OC | 16:06 |
| emwe | no timeshift. everything fine in that respect. | 16:06 |
| emwe | Naad: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/rhod100-2010-11-23-no-panel-gpio.zip | 16:06 |
| Naad | thanks | 16:07 |
| Naad | will try soon! | 16:07 |
| emwe | np. good luck. | 16:07 |
| emwe | Naad: might be also an idea to dump the ramconsole after a crashy kernel boot experience :) | 16:08 |
| emwe | i just did a package with HaretScripting for the topaz xdandroid forum thread. | 16:08 |
| F22 | he posted a dmesg | 16:10 |
| emwe | ah ok. i said nothing. :) | 16:10 |
| F22 | the kernel comes up, he was able to adb in. | 16:10 |
| emwe | ehm, didn't arrrghhh say it freezes? | 16:11 |
| emwe | so the display just stays black? | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | it does... visually | 16:11 |
| emwe | kk | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | it's acting like a startup.txt problem | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | from what i've been told, it freezes at the haret screen. | 16:14 |
| emwe | we have some topazers reporting the last working kernel is 20101023 | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | which ones? | 16:15 |
| emwe | no specific model | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 16:15 |
| emwe | 100/160/... | 16:15 |
| F22 | i'm running a wistilt kernel currently, not pure xdandroid, but there were two lines in his dmesg that weren't in mine which caught my eye. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | it just seems to be RHOD100 | 16:15 |
| F22 | [ 2.142059] micropklt_spi_bl_status_print: light sensor auto=10=0x0a SPI=136=0x88 | 16:15 |
| F22 | [ 2.142364] micropklt_panel_resume | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | that second one just reminds of the device coming out of wake from sleep | 16:16 |
| emwe | F22: the first line is what i added. it prints the auto-bl status on boot gathered from SPI | 16:16 |
| emwe | hmhm! | 16:16 |
| F22 | so wistilt2's build is older. | 16:17 |
| emwe | it reads from i2c address 0x24 ... and that is where wistilt writes his auto_bl data to, where we write to 0x22 | 16:17 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: my post about the recent topa non-boot issues: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9383124#post9383124 | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | same issue? freezes at haret? | 16:19 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: well, that's what it looks like. according to ramconsole/dmesg it's going until where i posted there .. mmcblk0p1 ... | 16:20 |
| emwe | right after setting the sdcc controller frequency | 16:20 |
| F22 | i wouldn't call the rhod100 issue freezing at haret. | 16:22 |
| emwe | getting confused. last known kernel for some of the topazers was 20101011, not 20101023. so usb gadget broke it for whatever reason. | 16:22 |
| emwe | Naad: if the first one doesn't work, try this one with auto-bl codepath routed to the topaz one: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/rhod100-2010-11-23-no-panel-gpio-topa-autobl-codepath.zip | 16:23 |
| F22 | if adb is available then the kernel is up and we're past the init script and into init.android. | 16:24 |
| emwe | it's either the gpio or the auto-bl data written | 16:25 |
| F22 | how did you disable the gpio in the board file? | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. windows keeps finding this HTC XDA USB disk drive device. i wonder if that's screwing it up... | 16:30 |
| emwe | F22: just comment it? | 16:32 |
| F22 | lol | 16:32 |
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| F22 | is that all? i take it nothing breaks if it isn't defined then. | 16:33 |
| emwe | F22: when i said "disable" earlier, then it should have been "don't touch" | 16:33 |
| Naad | Sorry was away for a bit. | 16:33 |
| Naad | first one did not work. | 16:33 |
| emwe | kk | 16:34 |
| F22 | ah | 16:34 |
| emwe | brb5. good luck with the second. | 16:34 |
| emwe | according to dmesg it's micropklt_panel_resume() which is last in the log? | 16:34 |
| emwe | anyway, brb5 ;) | 16:34 |
| Naad | Will test the second one, report what happens and then I'm off to sleep.. university calls tomorrow morning early xD | 16:37 |
| F22 | [ 2.142364] micropklt_panel_resume | 16:38 |
| F22 | [ 2.357147] microp-keypad: Initializing MicroP keypad driver | 16:38 |
| F22 | [ 2.358215] input: microp-keypad as /devices/virtual/input/input6 | 16:38 |
| F22 | [ 2.416290] microp_keypad_probe done | 16:38 |
| F22 | [ 29.303985] Something used micropklt_lcd_ctrl. This function should no longer be used. | 16:38 |
| F22 | [ 29.304168] Something used micropklt_lcd_ctrl. This function should no longer be used. | 16:38 |
| F22 | ^ emwe | 16:38 |
| F22 | the rest of that stuff is present in my dmesg too however. | 16:39 |
| emwe | F22: yeah, i should really get some rest. sorry... | 16:41 |
| F22 | well then get some sleep, this problem has been around few weeks, another day or two isn't a huge deal in the cosmic scheme of things. :P | 16:43 |
| Naad | hmm.. havent booted yet, winmo is not working with me. | 16:43 |
| Naad | Removing the microsd made it reboot xD | 16:43 |
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| Naad | i'm gonna give it one try and also get some sleep. | 16:44 |
| VGear | hello | 16:44 |
| Naad | No boot yet with second kernel | 16:45 |
| Naad | but, there is something different. The screen normally faded a bit (backlight turned down) now it just hangs on full brightness, like it was | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | same deal? | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | hangs at haret? | 16:46 |
| Naad | yeah, well, haret dialog (with the blue bar) just dissappears, then it hangs on explorer screen | 16:47 |
| Naad | with haret standing in bottom | 16:47 |
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| arrrghhh | k | 16:48 |
| Naad | But now at full brightness, so the brightness is not turned down anymore | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | that would make sense | 16:48 |
| F22 | so it hangs at the very same place then? | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | the gpio is disabled so autobl shouldn't happen. | 16:48 |
| F22 | right | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | can we get some more logs before you leave? | 16:48 |
| VGear | I have been reading a XDA Raphael/Diamond thread at xda-developers about battery's life and I tried to install task manager with autokill, after that my Diam100 last at least 20hours. I thought you guys should to know | 16:48 |
| VGear | and thanks a lot for your work | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | VGear: k | 16:49 |
| Naad | what logs do you need? | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | Naad: same | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | dmesg & logcat | 16:49 |
| Naad | ok | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | thanks dude | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | VGear: we've had people get 36 hours. | 16:49 |
| F22 | Naad: what's the very last thing you see pop up on the screen before the screen hangs? | 16:50 |
| emwe | hmhm. when it stays at full brightness then rhod really uses a different i2c cmd... | 16:51 |
| VGear | arrrghh: I saw it, but now I don't want to spend my time in posting this at xda-developers, IRC is faster | 16:52 |
| VGear | also if you nead some spanish support, I think I can do something | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | well no one will benefit from it here. | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | well, hardly anyone. | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | for the most part 'power-users' or devs hang out here. | 16:52 |
| Naad | i see the blue bar finish, the popup screen dissappears, and then it hangs | 16:53 |
| Naad | so on the explorer screen, with andboot folder opened | 16:54 |
| F22 | so you're never seeing the command line stuff after haret hands over control. no wonder everyone says it freezes in haret. i follow you now. | 16:54 |
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| arrrghhh | F22: lol sorry i thought you got that. | 16:58 |
| Naad | haha ok, clear. I never see the command lines no | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | that's the reason i keep thinking it was a startup.txt issue. | 16:58 |
| Naad | i posted the logs from the second kernel | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | thanks Naad | 16:58 |
| Naad | but it's definetely not startup.txt as adb is working fine | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea. i get that now :P | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | it's just acting like a startup.txt issue. | 16:59 |
| Naad | great :) | 16:59 |
| Naad | but I'm off to bed now! | 16:59 |
| F22 | g'nite Naad | 16:59 |
| Naad | I'll read the logs in the morning, and test whats needed :0 | 16:59 |
| Naad | goodnight! | 16:59 |
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| Naad | One last thing, the phone does get hot when it hangs. Not sure if it's useful info. | 17:10 |
| F22 | does it normally get that hot on boot-up? | 17:11 |
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| emwe | watf... "Waiting for SD Card"... | 17:18 |
| emwe | never had that. | 17:19 |
| emwe | looks like my topa starts acting crazy. | 17:19 |
| Naad | it normally doesn't get hot i would say.. not that i can remember | 17:19 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe: i've seen that a few times. not sure what the solution is. i always just told peoples to reformat their card. | 17:21 |
| emwe | i just rebooted... | 17:22 |
| emwe | ;) | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | it works now? | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | that's troubleshooting step #1. :P | 17:24 |
| F22 | #2 is delete data.img | 17:25 |
| F22 | :P | 17:25 |
| emwe | no, #2 is buy a desire z :P | 17:26 |
| F22 | lol | 17:26 |
| F22 | aside from t-mobile's g2, there aren't a whole lot of those available in the states. i suppose verizon's merge will be out soon... | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | esire z | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not switching networks for a phone lol | 17:27 |
| emwe | luckily we can use our phones for any provider :) | 17:28 |
| stinebd | what's new folks | 17:28 |
| emwe | constant high cpu load with my bricked kernel? | 17:28 |
| stinebd | how do you brick a kernel? | 17:29 |
| emwe | mess with the code. | 17:29 |
| F22 | lol | 17:29 |
| emwe | and btw, the raph hasn't arrived, yet. ;) | 17:29 |
| stinebd | but kernels aren't physical objects and thus cannot perform the duties of a brick! | 17:29 |
| emwe | understood, papa. :P | 17:29 |
| F22 | lol | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:30 |
| emwe | but if you print out the kernel source and glue every sheet of paper, it's likely to have physicial properties of a brick. | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | i prefer to duct tape my sheets of kernel source thank you. | 17:31 |
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| stinebd | haha | 17:32 |
| F22 | lol | 17:32 |
| stinebd | emwe: you think it's stuck in inspection or something? cause of the toner cartridge terrorism nonsense? | 17:32 |
| F22 | maybe it's waiting in line for a patdown? :P | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | it just wants a little love | 17:34 |
| emwe | stinebd: toner cartridge terrorism?! i must have missed something. the next thing to happen is we open our rocket silo gates when a bag of rice turns over in china... | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | some yokels tried to blow up some planes using bombs hidden in toner cartridges. | 17:35 |
| F22 | those bombs shipped from yemen were found inside toner cartridges from what i recall... | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | same material that freakin guy used last december on that flight to detriot. | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | Detroit? | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | de-riot | 17:36 |
| emwe | but that's not that "test bomb bag" thingy with the flights from africa, no? | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 17:37 |
| emwe | where half europe was pissed about, because they didn't get notified | 17:37 |
| stinebd | any murricans here get one of those free gropes? | 17:37 |
| emwe | but honestly, i haven't watched news lately. a pitty. | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | not yet | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't gone to the airport in a while tho | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | i should ask my dad... | 17:37 |
| F22 | haven't flown lately, not that i want to with all the crap i've been hearing. | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | i guess not everyone gets the pat-down/screening thing tho | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | they 'randomly select' people for the full body scanner, and if they refuse they get molested. | 17:38 |
| emwe | stinebd: any hint as to why the "system_server" process might suck up all cpu? | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: lol i'm glad you asked that question :P | 17:39 |
| stinebd | emwe: not yet. gotta attach strace to it when it happens | 17:39 |
| emwe | oh, it's known with frx03?! | 17:39 |
| stinebd | i'm waiting for a hard drive for the machine i do most of my work on before i can do that though | 17:39 |
| stinebd | it's known which all froyo images | 17:39 |
| stinebd | with* | 17:39 |
| F22 | i've gotten reports of it happening with frx03. | 17:39 |
| emwe | hm, first time i see it. | 17:39 |
| emwe | after i built frx03... | 17:40 |
| F22 | hasn't happened to me yet, but i've only rebooted twice in the past 5 days. :D | 17:40 |
| emwe | and i suspected my kernel *BRICKSTUFFTHINGY* to be the cause... | 17:40 |
| F22 | i used to see it all the time though. | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should check older builds | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | i just assumed it was always a problem... | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | now it doesn't always peg my proc tho. | 17:41 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: no need, it happened randomly to those too | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | when the phone seems to be crapping itself and wouldn't do anything, that's when system_server was stealing all the processor cycles. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | not surprised stinebd. | 17:41 |
| stinebd | i've known about it for a while now, but haven't gotten around to looking through what's happening | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:41 |
| stinebd | killing jit got rid of a lot of heisenbugs so that's probably my next task | 17:42 |
| emwe | stinebd: ok, what do i have to do ? "strace -p <PID>"? | 17:42 |
| stinebd | emwe: pretty much, yeah. failing that... find a way to strace it on startup and pray it doesn't "fix" the bug as you try to observe it | 17:42 |
| emwe | Process 1235 attached - interrupt to quit | 17:43 |
| emwe | select(19, [10 18], NULL, NULL, NULL | 17:43 |
| stinebd | what's fd 19? | 17:43 |
| emwe | i have no idea what i am doing... | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:44 |
| stinebd | never straced before? | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | pray it doesn't "fix" the bug as you try to observe it - seemed to work for us before :P | 17:44 |
| emwe | stinebd: nope. and how to resolve what fd 19 is? i would think of lsof... | 17:45 |
| stinebd | nah | 17:46 |
| stinebd | maybe /proc/PID/fd | 17:46 |
| stinebd | do we even have lsof on there? | 17:47 |
| stinebd | if we do you could use that too, but proc could work too | 17:48 |
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| arrrghhh | i think lsof is on there | 17:48 |
| emwe | stinebd: no lsof. and fd 19 is not in the procfs. only goes up to 18 | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i thought i used it before... | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i lie | 17:48 |
| stinebd | must be ipc or something then | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | reboot | 17:49 |
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| stinebd | no reboot we need his whacked out system alive! | 17:49 |
| emwe | shit is what i am telling... | 17:50 |
| emwe | bah. | 17:50 |
| stinebd | wuh | 17:50 |
| emwe | lr-x------ 1 1000 1000 64 Nov 23 22:49 19 -> pipe:[1968] | 17:50 |
| stinebd | what's 1968? | 17:50 |
| emwe | was looking at ppid | 17:50 |
| stinebd | watch it be battery service or some crap | 17:51 |
| stinebd | i swear to god if it is... | 17:51 |
| emwe | 1968 not existant in top | 17:51 |
| stinebd | awesome | 17:51 |
| stinebd | maybe that's why it's freaking out | 17:51 |
| F22 | it's lost its mommy and is scared...aaaawww...lol | 17:52 |
| stinebd | emwe: if you want you can ship your topaz to me and i'll check it out after it never gets here | 17:54 |
| emwe | stinebd: good plan. | 17:54 |
| stinebd | try to keep it turned on so the bug remains there though | 17:54 |
| stinebd | customs would enjoy that | 17:55 |
| stinebd | oh and find some clock app that makes a ticking noise | 17:55 |
| F22 | lol | 17:55 |
| emwe | ;) | 17:56 |
| F22 | as i recall, both jonpry and acl had handsets shipped to them that they never received also. | 17:56 |
| F22 | it sounds like an epidemic | 17:56 |
| emwe | hmhm. | 17:56 |
| stinebd | maybe a scam? | 17:56 |
| hamagc | he got my tp1 | 17:56 |
| hamagc | acl did | 17:56 |
| emwe | wow, nice thing that strace ;) | 17:58 |
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| AIdejjas | Hi! | 18:04 |
| AIdejjas | Will it ever be 100% | 18:04 |
| AIdejjas | ?? | 18:04 |
| hamagc | never! | 18:05 |
| hamagc | ok maybe someday | 18:05 |
| hamagc | define 100% | 18:05 |
| F22 | My magic 8ball says to "Ask again later." :P | 18:07 |
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| emwe | hm, incall mic fixed for topa. but it crashes afterwards in wakelocks print_lock_stat()... PITA. | 18:09 |
| F22 | progress :D | 18:10 |
| emwe | perhaps i should disable them again ;) | 18:11 |
| F22 | lol | 18:14 |
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| arrrghhh | stupid adb. | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'm out of ideas, other than blowing up this xp box. damnit. | 18:16 |
| F22 | can't help, sorry. i've never tried to run adb on windows, that's what i have linux for. pity "liberating" it isn't an option... | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | well at home it's fine. | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll just deal with it. i have more time to play with this at work then i do at home. | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's sad... | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | but true lol | 18:18 |
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| F22 | no demanding gf at work... ;) | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | i tried every suggestion i could fine | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | find* | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | of course it's all for native android devices. | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not sure if what i'm doing is even worth it... so far no go. | 18:20 |
| F22 | what are you doing? | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | everything i can lol | 18:21 |
| F22 | lol | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | the best guide i found so far recommends using USBDeviewer | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | er USBDeview | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | and basically remove any ADB or HTC related devices. i tried that. even tried removing all USB related stuff, still didn't work. | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | this last time i removed all the XDA/HTC stuff that's in there, and rebooted | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | the stupid driver install just keeps saying "cannot install this hardware" like i have the wrong driver for this... | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | hm maybe i do. | 18:23 |
| F22 | can you still mount it fine? | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | mount... what? | 18:24 |
| F22 | when you're in windows mobile | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea winmo works fine | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | and of course adb works fine on other machines, so it's definitely this PC. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | adb has worked on this PC before as well. | 18:25 |
| F22 | so it worked before and now it isn't. No doubt you're kicking yourself wondering what's changed. | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to start over with the sdk | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol well the only thing that's really changed, is i moved desks and therefore my dock moved... so the usb port it's using invariably changed. | 18:26 |
| emwe | did adb still work *after* the switch to usb gadget? | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i never used it before that switch TBH | 18:27 |
| * arrrghhh is slow | 18:27 | |
| emwe | kk. so that's fine and can be excluded :) | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it's something on this pc | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | adb works fine elsewhere. | 18:28 |
| emwe | yeha. phone survived first incall ever for me. | 18:29 |
| emwe | and even mic and earpiece worked. | 18:29 |
| emwe | ;) | 18:29 |
| emwe | is it "earpiece" actually? what's the correct term for the speaker above the screen? | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | that makes the most sense | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | earpiece speaker | 18:30 |
| emwe | thx | 18:31 |
| emwe | gnight peeps. | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | g'nite | 18:32 |
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| hamagc | yep me too | 18:48 |
| hamagc | goodnight guys | 18:48 |
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| arrrghhh | so what is our device considered by adb? dream? magic? | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | oy. i hate you windows. | 19:18 |
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| arrrghhh | i'm such a noob lol. i just started my first thread on XDA :D | 19:31 |
| MrObvious | arrrghhh: lol | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'm hoping i missed something stupid. | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | because at this point, i have no clue. | 19:49 |
| F22 | i didn't know adb cared. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | que? | 20:00 |
| * F22 points towards your earlier comment asking what our device is considered as by adb. | 20:01 | |
| arrrghhh | oic | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | i was just looking in the inf file for the usb driver. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | i just stumbled on a guide for the incredible, it instructed people to add some lines to the inf for that device. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't have to do that before. | 20:02 |
| F22 | sounds more complicated than it needs to be. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm at a loss. | 20:02 |
| F22 | how did you get it working on the other windows machines? | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | it worked on this machine previously | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | droid explorer is how i got it workin | 20:04 |
| F22 | so why not continue to use droid explorer? | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | i even tried reinstalling it. | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | it just sets up the sdk really | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah well | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | i'm off | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | i'll cya on the flip side | 20:07 |
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| RogueAgent[TP2] | hey f22 | 21:26 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | your rootfs works perfect | 21:26 |
| F22 | sounds good :) | 21:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | woop | 21:28 |
| F22 | barring a decision on final placement of { } [ and ] due to the fact that the italian and french keys have other stuff in the spots i've put them, i'm pretty much done on the rhodium side of things, aside from possible further expansion of the symbol palette. | 21:29 |
| F22 | aside from the fuse, i haven't done the raph yet, nor i have even looked at the kovsky | 21:30 |
| F22 | keys=keyboards | 21:31 |
| stinebd | yay | 21:53 |
| stinebd | finally an attempted wiki spammer | 21:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | what | 21:58 |
| F22 | lol | 22:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 22:20 |
| F22 | the htc-linux wiki has been vandalized it appears. | 23:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | oh lol | 23:56 |
| F22 | every single page has been replaced by an under construction message. | 23:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | I saw | 23:57 |
| F22 | and a link to a site that google says is suspected of spreading malware. | 23:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | The maintainer can just back it up lol | 23:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | Wait, anyone can just set it back | 23:57 |
| F22 | sure, but there are a lot of pages to set back... | 23:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yup. | 23:58 |
| F22 | and this person has been at it for 9 days it looks like. they need a life, or a bot... :P | 23:58 |
| F22 | on second thought, the most recent changes appear to have been automated. | 23:59 |
| F22 | it's just the first few that appear to have been individually done. | 23:59 |
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