| hyperfire21 | anyone get skype to connect on rhod? | 00:05 |
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20101006_062754) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101006_062754-package.tar.bz2 | 00:37 |
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| MegaMatze | hey guys, just wanted to start xdandroid on my rhodium. it said booting linux and now it looks like it froze. what am i doing wrong? | 02:27 |
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| Colombia81er | Is the update feature not working ? | 10:07 |
| Colombia81er | Im getting Update Server not Available | 10:07 |
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| arrrghhh | i wouldn't use it TBH | 10:10 |
| arrrghhh | that's sov&reef's thing unfortunately. | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | i never had much luck with it. cool concept tho. | 10:11 |
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| Colombia81er | Okay i updated the Startup utility !! | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | ok. | 10:21 |
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| Luby | hi | 13:02 |
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| jjpeasl | JesusFreak316, whats up | 16:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | Not much, just some Economics homework. | 16:13 |
| jjpeasl | sounds like fun about to update to the latest kernal and see how it works out | 16:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | There's some pretty good stuff in the last two kernels. | 16:17 |
| jjpeasl | was just reading comments on the kernal, looking promising like always. | 16:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | What have you been using? | 16:18 |
| jjpeasl | lol not even sure | 16:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Suffice to say it's old? :) | 16:18 |
| jjpeasl | projectandroid2.2 froyo cab | 16:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Which one? He updates all the time. | 16:19 |
| jjpeasl | 9 28 ver. | 16:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, then not THAT old. | 16:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | RHOD has had sooo many fixes lately. | 16:20 |
| jjpeasl | ive install that one and use the update tool included in the cab | 16:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I think he finally got around to updating the cab updating tool to where it actually downloads the correct zImage now. | 16:21 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 16:22 |
| jjpeasl | guess i'll have to try the update again because the latest ver was 1004 | 16:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Okay then. :) | 16:23 |
| jjpeasl | fun fun | 16:23 |
| jjpeasl | my phone crashed on me think i should leave the apps alone lol. | 16:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | Too many good apps out there, eh? | 16:24 |
| jjpeasl | no just one i use to piss ppl off my fav is the air horn lol | 16:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 16:25 |
| jjpeasl | air horn and xbox live r fun | 16:25 |
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| jjpeasl | any apps you recommend? | 16:30 |
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20101006_223311) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101006_223311-package.tar.bz2 | 16:47 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Ah, another new kernel. | 16:49 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, how 'bout you mang? | 19:01 |
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| stinebd | ROY HALLADAY! | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | que? | 19:42 |
| stinebd | sorry | 19:42 |
| stinebd | i'm somewhat of a baseball fan | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:43 |
| stinebd | phillies pitcher just threw a no hitter in his first playoff game | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 19:43 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: what did you need btw | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | eh i think natemcutty is going to help me... trying to get 3.5mm jack to work | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | and the code change seems pretty easy. | 20:06 |
| stinebd | good | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | but perhaps i'm underestimating what needs to be done :P | 20:06 |
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| stinebd | i'm not the kernel guy | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | damnit c'mon guy. ;) no worries, nate has the same phone & has been building nand kernels so hopefully he can get it workin. or at least built :D | 20:06 |
| stinebd | the only thing i know about the kernel is that if you stick it in a microwave it explodes and tastes good | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | really? you seem like such a jack-of-all-trades kinda guy. | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really understand much of any of it. | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | i've gotten pretty good at testing/troubleshooting :P at least i like to think so... | 20:08 |
| stinebd | i can kinda sorta make out what's happening, but i can't write the code worth a crap | 20:08 |
| stinebd | and i don't have even a fundamental understanding of embedded system architecture | 20:08 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | so what knowledge do you have that assits you in whipping out those system.ext2 files? | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i don't really see how that fits in TBH | 20:10 |
| stinebd | well the system images are userland | 20:11 |
| stinebd | i'm not as much of a slouch when it comes to userland stuff | 20:11 |
| stinebd | mess less ASM, obscure C macros, etc | 20:11 |
| stinebd | much* | 20:12 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 20:12 |
| arrrghhh | what is that written in? java? | 20:12 |
| stinebd | i have one or maybe two commits to the linux-msm tree | 20:12 |
| stinebd | mostly java | 20:12 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 20:12 |
| stinebd | c++ and c mixed in as well | 20:12 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 20:13 |
| arrrghhh | i took some courses in c++ and java way bacak in the day. haven't done anything with it in years tho, shame really. | 20:13 |
| stinebd | i hate programming... really | 20:13 |
| stinebd | i enjoy this stuff because it's much closer to administration | 20:13 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 20:14 |
| arrrghhh | i suck at programming | 20:14 |
| arrrghhh | i was OK when i was writing my own code | 20:14 |
| stinebd | i'm very good at it but i can't stand doing it on a daily basis | 20:14 |
| arrrghhh | but i was HORRIBLE at debugging other people's code. | 20:14 |
| arrrghhh | hm. well that's a shame. | 20:14 |
| stinebd | another interesting note is that i have no java experience whatsoever | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | i feel so behind at this point, i'm not even sure where to start tbh. | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | haha really? | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | any "traditional" programming experience...? | 20:15 |
| stinebd | mostly C and some C++ | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 20:15 |
| stinebd | lots of php and python and bash | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i kinda wish i would've learned c first. | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | ah nice. | 20:16 |
| arrrghhh | good ole scripting languages. | 20:16 |
| stinebd | C is my favorite so far | 20:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've written some awesome scripts in AHK :d | 20:16 |
| arrrghhh | der | 20:16 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 20:16 |
| stinebd | i find the best way to get work done is to jump in and forget about how dumb you think you are | 20:18 |
| stinebd | the dumber the question, the easier the answer is to get | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | haha that's certainly true. | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | i just get lost quickly in the kernel code. | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i've looked at any userland code tbh. seems like most of the work that needs to be done is on the kernel... | 20:19 |
| stinebd | well our system images still need a lot of work | 20:20 |
| arrrghhh | in what way? | 20:21 |
| stinebd | stability and reliability, speed (most likely), general bugfixes, features | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:21 |
| stinebd | lots of little stuff like market randomly failing, gallery3d on vga, weird random SIGBUS (with JIT on... SIGSEGV without jit) errors | 20:22 |
| arrrghhh | is the code in the git ? | 20:22 |
| stinebd | aosp is split into a metric crapton of individual repositories, pulled together by their repo program | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | ah... | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | sounds painful. | 20:23 |
| stinebd | not really, once you get used to it | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 20:24 |
| stinebd | i guess that's the same as root canals not being so bad after you've had a dozen, though | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | nice analogy. | 20:24 |
| stinebd | http://android.git.kernel.org/ | 20:25 |
| stinebd | each repository that begins with "platform" is part of aosp | 20:26 |
| stinebd | we've forked about six and have 3 or 4 of our own | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 20:28 |
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| raf | Is there any way to get write permissions in xdandroid.com/wiki? I would like to create a starting-point article about XDAndroidStartup since all of the info about that seems to be currently sprinkled throughout the forums. | 22:17 |
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| stinebd | something like this? http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 22:19 |
| raf | stinebd: are you talking to me? I don't see anything in Installation_Guide about XDAndroidStartup, the application for Windows Mobile that is discussed in the forum | 22:21 |
| stinebd | oh, it's an application? | 22:21 |
| raf | http://208.100.42.21/showthread.php?t=627997&page=942 | 22:21 |
| raf | also "MJGDroidUtil.exe", which is similar(?) | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | did i miss something? | 22:23 |
| stinebd | those are not officially supported by the project | 22:23 |
| raf | I was wondering if it would be possible to get write permission on the wiki to document things like MJGDroidUtil.exe and XDAndroidStartup.cab | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | oh i see | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | they're reef&sov's baby | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | seems like mostly sov's baby AFAIK | 22:23 |
| stinebd | i can grant you access to create pages, but only on the condition that you add a huge "THIS IS UNSUPPORTED" warning to those pages | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:24 |
| raf | no problem | 22:24 |
| stinebd | let me know what your username is and i'll take care of it | 22:24 |
| raf | wiki username is Raf | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | raf, so call it MJGDroidUtil please. it's never been called XDAndroidStartup... | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | has it? | 22:25 |
| raf | http://208.100.42.21/showthread.php?t=627997&page=942 seems to indicate that those are two different things | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | what post? | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | why are you referencing xda by ip? odd. | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | can't wait for ipv6 | 22:26 |
| raf | good question | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol that should be fun. | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho what post... | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | I'm guessing you're talking about this quote: "The app actually started out as a startup.txt generator, lol, because of so many posts flooding this thread about issues that ended up to be just an error in the user's startup.txt file. Well, one thing led to another, and now it's a full fledged startup/update utility." | 22:27 |
| stinebd | raf: all set. i hope... | 22:28 |
| * stinebd is not a mediawiki genius | 22:28 | |
| raf | The quote that mentions both names is in http://208.100.42.21/showthread.php?t=627997&page=942 : "Which startup app? MJGDroidUtil.exe or XDAndroidStartup.exe? XDAndroidStartup is my startup utility and all of the rhodiums are set to gsensor_axis=2,1,3." | 22:29 |
| raf | sorry for the IP addresses, I don't know which search engine sent me to those | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what that .exe is | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | haret i assume that someone renamed? | 22:30 |
| raf | I'll try to get to the bottom of it and include citation links to the forums. My wiki privileges look OK. | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i don't have an exe by that name... | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | well sov wrote MJGDroidUtil | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's for sure | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | reef seems to be the distributor/packagor | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | package-whore? | 22:31 |
| stinebd | i need to open a bug about the rhodium starting in landscape | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | no, i don't know him that well. | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i did... | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | already. | 22:32 |
| stinebd | ok | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 22:32 |
| stinebd | and now i must mark it WONTFIX | 22:32 |
| stinebd | and then start my own | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | d!ck | 22:32 |
| stinebd | low/trivial | 22:33 |
| stinebd | i wish. | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't seem that important lol | 22:33 |
| stinebd | nothing in android is trivial | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | keyboard lights? | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | trivial. | 22:33 |
| stinebd | exactly | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | can i get a stable RIL maybe? | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:33 |
| stinebd | not crashing every 5 minutes? piece of cake | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | i tried to call someone today and it reset on my all wacky like. | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | so i was hitting the end key to end the call... | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | and instead of ending the call, the speakerphone turned on! yay! | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | and then the phone decided to reset... but only in Android. mind you the call was still running on speakerphone. | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | it was pretty sweet because it was just a looping error message from telco | 22:35 |
| stinebd | logcat! | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | me not my. damnit. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's a little late for that unfortunately... | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | but i could probably recreate it by calling myself or something lol | 22:36 |
| stinebd | any time something like that happens, logcat. AND logcat -b radio probably | 22:36 |
| stinebd | and maybe a few dmesgs | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | even after it reset like that? | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | ...would that have been useful? | 22:37 |
| stinebd | reset as in reboot, or reset to bootanim? | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | reset to bootanim | 22:37 |
| stinebd | yes logcat still useful in that case | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 22:37 |
| stinebd | assuming you get to it before the good part of the buffer gets knocked out | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 22:38 |
| raf | I see that you're running the wiki on an Ubuntu server. If you would enable the citation extension, it would be a good way for me to make links to the forum sources. "apt-get install mediawiki-extensions; mwenext Cite.php". I've run a MediaWiki server at my company for 7 years so I'm pretty sure this won't break anything. | 22:43 |
| stinebd | i didn't install it via apt | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | raf, so what is this "XDAndroidStartup.exe"? is it just haret? | 22:45 |
| stinebd | distro packages are incompatible with my apache security model | 22:45 |
| raf | regarding mediawiki: if you still wanted to do it, it would be something like "svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite /var/lib/mediawiki/extensions/Cite" and then add 'require_once("$IP/extensions/Cite/Cite.php");' to LocalSettings.php (adjusting for paths). Not too important in any case. | 22:47 |
| raf | I don't know what XDAndroidStartup.exe is, but people in the forum seem to be excited about it, so I just wanted to document it. | 22:47 |
| stinebd | i have to upgrade mediawiki anyway | 22:48 |
| raf | ... including documenting whether it's useful | 22:48 |
| raf | ok first version: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/XDAndroidStartup .. I'll flesh it out later | 22:49 |
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| raf | database error: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/User:Raf | 22:54 |
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| arrrghhh | i'd really like to have a link | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | because i thought MJGDroidUtil was sov's | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | but now it doesn't sound like that's the case...? | 23:01 |
| raf | doesn't look like it | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm confused. | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | links please! | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 23:03 |
| raf | just saved http://xdandroid.com/wiki/XDAndroidStartup .. will try to find more info on MJGDroidUtil | 23:04 |
| stinebd | cite added | 23:04 |
| stinebd | also updated to the 1.16.x branch | 23:04 |
| stinebd | which was the brief db error | 23:05 |
| raf | ok thanks | 23:06 |
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| R^7Z | another link: http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/startup-utility | 23:13 |
| R^7Z | Text about startup CABS being made: Startup Shortcuts There have been questions on how to create shortcuts to run Android from your Windows Mobile device. This really isn't that difficult, but Bikeanddestroyx has gone to the trouble to create a few CABs for you to assist in this journey. Definitely send thanks his way. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=113914 | 23:14 |
| R^7Z | Link to page that contains that info: http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/links-extras | 23:15 |
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| R^7Z | Just so happens to be home of the "Blazn" package | 23:21 |
| R^7Z | Please mention that those CABS come "as is"... | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | oh lol | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | i see what happened. | 23:23 |
| R^7Z | The forum link raf posted was from reef | 23:23 |
| R^7Z | I personally don't like the IP included but meh... | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | raf, i see what happened here. MJGDroidUtil is now named XDAndroidStartup... hrm. | 23:24 |
| R^7Z | ah... yeah... i kind of let reef know my impressions about the start-up CAB... | 23:25 |
| R^7Z | he wanted me to "test" it out but that just isn't the way i like my Android to function | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh is there something new? | 23:27 |
| R^7Z | Not really, my Fuze is on the charger... Just updated to CHT 2.0 | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't understand what you're talkin 'bout | 23:28 |
| R^7Z | I haven't tested out the Blazn package that reef built/put together | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | what does blazn have to do with a startup cab? | 23:29 |
| R^7Z | reef mentioned something about a startup cab and wanted me to test it out... | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | okie. | 23:31 |
| R^7Z | aiet... I'm out... | 23:35 |
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| arrrghhh | raf, you there? | 23:44 |
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