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mes | is /system/etc/apns-conf.xml the real location of apn names? | 02:36 |
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TheDeadCPU | xdandroid seen CazH | 04:42 |
xdandroid | TheDeadCPU: CazH was last seen in #xdandroid 3 weeks, 2 days, 12 hours, 46 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <CazH> not all that impressive | 04:42 |
kalemas | after update to latest kernels android feel work fast enough but after time it become slowly again | 05:08 |
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Gwuat-man | Hey has the installation process for the rhodium changed? | 10:05 |
Gwuat-man | HTC TP2 | 10:05 |
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Gwuat-man_ | After extracting the ext2 file to the SD card what is the next step? In the install | 10:09 |
Gwuat-man_ | ???? | 10:09 |
Gwuat-man_ | Hello? | 10:18 |
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Matzemink | i know it's annoying to refer to HD2 android developing ... BUT xD ... they've got a standby power consumption below 8mA Oo | 10:28 |
Matzemink | ... because of a specific WinMo ROM ! | 10:29 |
Gwuat-man_ | hello after extracting the ext2 file to the sd card what is the next step...everything i am trying is not working | 10:30 |
Matzemink | ... and here's the evidence! | 10:30 |
Matzemink | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776971 | 10:31 |
Matzemink | does anybody know wo can do this for the xdandroid devices? | 10:31 |
Matzemink | and will it solve our battery issue, too? | 10:32 |
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Matzemink | no devs there? | 10:36 |
kalemas | Matzemink: most of devs are on #htc-linux | 11:03 |
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hamagc | good morning gang | 12:12 |
hamagc | xdandroid: seen camro | 12:12 |
xdandroid | hamagc: camro was last seen in #xdandroid 2 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <camro> but, it's ok .. i must prepare my things via adb, and then call the batch script | 12:12 |
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mes | does anyone know the process that does power off? | 13:04 |
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zycho | :) | 16:10 |
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freeout | hi all. i have a question, can a damage a phone when I'm install android? | 16:22 |
hamagc | no | 16:24 |
hamagc | well depends | 16:24 |
hamagc | what device? | 16:24 |
freeout | diamond2 | 16:24 |
hamagc | are you flashing nand or sdcard? | 16:25 |
freeout | card | 16:25 |
hamagc | then no harm. you can always reboot and be back in windows | 16:26 |
freeout | It's good | 16:26 |
hamagc | thats right, diamond2 doesn't have nand yet. | 16:26 |
hamagc | so no harm can be done. enjoy! | 16:26 |
freeout | Do you now why in official suit haven't a android? sorry for english | 16:27 |
freeout | I can download only XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.ext2 | 16:28 |
freeout | When I download a XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.7z after unzip I see a XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.ext2 | 16:29 |
hamagc | they are both just system updates, you want the full package. | 16:33 |
hamagc | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z | 16:35 |
hamagc | thats the latest full package | 16:35 |
freeout | thanks a lot | 16:36 |
hamagc | no problem | 16:37 |
hamagc | also when you install it all, make sure you use the correct startup.txt for the diamond 2. | 16:38 |
freeout | okey thanks | 16:40 |
freeout | I must copy only "andboot" folder to card or each folder to card? | 16:42 |
hamagc | andboot should have everything in it | 16:44 |
hamagc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493 should give you all the info you need | 16:45 |
freeout | thanks | 16:47 |
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freeout | :( when i'm open haret.exe htc only reboot | 16:48 |
hamagc | sounds like the wrong startup.txt | 16:50 |
freeout | startup.txt correct | 16:51 |
freeout | for topaz | 16:52 |
hamagc | when does it reboot the phone? as soon as the line fills in haret? | 16:53 |
hamagc | do you get a blackscreen with text on it | 16:53 |
hamagc | ? | 16:53 |
freeout | when i'm openinig haret.exe the phon was reboot and i don't get a blackscreen with text | 16:55 |
freeout | and then I see windows mobile loading | 16:56 |
hamagc | thats a startup.txt problem. check that you have the correct one again and try again. | 16:58 |
freeout | i was cheking and try but nothing | 17:01 |
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hamagc | set ramsize 0x10000000 | 17:13 |
hamagc | set ramaddr 0x10000000 | 17:13 |
hamagc | set mtype 2293 | 17:13 |
hamagc | check those values in startup.txt | 17:13 |
freeout | values in startup.txt: | 17:16 |
freeout | set ramsize 0x10000000 set ramaddr 0x10000000 set mtype 2293 set KERNEL zImage set initrd initrd.gz set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz rel_path=andboot" boot | 17:16 |
hamagc | hmm interesting | 17:16 |
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hamagc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493 | 17:18 |
hamagc | check post #2 and make sure everything is setup right | 17:18 |
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freeout | I download again and it work I see black screen and loadig proces | 17:22 |
freeout | ooo... no i see only green fly guys | 17:23 |
freeout | It's work!!! | 17:26 |
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hamagc | there ya go! | 17:28 |
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freeout | Yes its great!!! But camera dont't work. Do you now same fix? | 17:47 |
hamagc | no camera yet | 17:48 |
hamagc | something still being worked on | 17:48 |
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freeout | thanks for all bye | 17:54 |
hamagc | bye | 17:56 |
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mes | does anyone know the process that does power off? /sdcard is unmounted correctly but the others are not | 19:43 |
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mes | is that init.android? ,does it run like a real init? | 19:45 |
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mes | so could exec /init.android in /init, be replaced with just /init.android and have control return to init, leaving it to unmount FS's? | 20:00 |
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JesusFreak316 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8342125#post8342125 | 20:11 |
JesusFreak316 | ^ Anyone wanna try that out? | 20:11 |
JesusFreak316 | I don't know where my fuze is atm. | 20:11 |
stinebd | mes: ShutdownService (indeed invoked by init.android) - i've browsed through the code before but didn't go deep enough to figure out how it determines which filesystems to attempt to unmount | 20:12 |
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stinebd | mes: it's in aosp/frameworks/base if you're interested in reading it | 20:13 |
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stinebd | mes: err make that ShutdownThread, sorry | 20:14 |
stinebd | since it's not actually a service | 20:15 |
mes | yes, I'll look at it, I had to change init.rc to mount / rw, so unmounting would be a good thing | 20:29 |
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mes | stinebd, do you know where the wifi service is delt with? I finanlly setup dropbear, but it's of no use if it doesn't start after the wifi is brought up | 20:35 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: Any chance you could check an app out for me? I don't know where my fuze is atm. This guy tweaked the kwaak3 quake3 port and put it on the market. I want to know if the performance is any better in his version. | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | i don't have a RAPH no mo dude... | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | i could test on my RHOD if you want... | 20:36 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, nah, it needs hw3d which RHOD doesn't have atm, correct? | 20:37 |
arrrghhh | well | 20:40 |
arrrghhh | it just got it | 20:40 |
arrrghhh | i think the commit was yesterday lol | 20:40 |
arrrghhh | tp2 section is poppin because of it. droves of monkeys. | 20:40 |
JesusFreak316 | Really? Good for you guys. They finally got over the vram problems I guess. | 20:40 |
JesusFreak316 | lol | 20:40 |
arrrghhh | and not the fun monkeys. the claw-your-face monkeys. | 20:40 |
arrrghhh | yea, i guess you can't go over 109mb | 20:41 |
JesusFreak316 | That's what I figured. | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | at least that's what bzo was saying. | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | if he kept it under that limit, it wouldn't crash. | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | he's not sure about other devices tho. | 20:41 |
JesusFreak316 | I was more talking about the video ram, something closer to 8mb but I don't really know much about it. :P | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | oh | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | yea i don't know squat | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | just what i read | 20:41 |
JesusFreak316 | Nonetheless, good for you guys. | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | indeedy | 20:42 |
JesusFreak316 | The apps called quake3droid and it should be in the market. | 20:42 |
arrrghhh | yea that dude posted on both tp1 & 2 sections with that [PRJ] thread. | 20:42 |
JesusFreak316 | Do you know what device the driver's from? I would assume it's the same driver just tweaked so it works for wvga. | 20:42 |
arrrghhh | not sure | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | didn't the guy say in his post? i read it real quick before leaving work today. | 20:43 |
JesusFreak316 | Say what? | 20:43 |
mes | stinebd, frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/ShutdownActivity.java? | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | i could just be spouting nonsense, i did just get home from work. | 20:44 |
arrrghhh | trying to scrub away the memories of work ATM. | 20:44 |
JesusFreak316 | Say what in his post? | 20:45 |
arrrghhh | i'll double-check the thread 1 sec | 20:45 |
arrrghhh | are you not asking me to do this because of that XDA post? | 20:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, yeah. | 20:46 |
JesusFreak316 | He just posted nearly the same thread on a bunch of forums to get more testers. Since our build is a little different, no multitouch, flaky hw3d it's hard to know how it'll work. | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | ok, i'm just spouting nonsense. | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | he didn't say what device the driver is from. | 20:47 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, it's probably the same one as the tp1. | 20:48 |
JesusFreak316 | Is the app on the market? | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | not sure | 20:48 |
JesusFreak316 | You checked? | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | c'mon you can check appbrain lol | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | i'm checking appbrain now | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | i am testing kernels and they're not booting android | 20:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Why check when you are perfectly capable? :P | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | cuz i'm not! | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | and it's not on appbrain | 20:50 |
JesusFreak316 | Huh. I didn't see it in the Android SDK emulator either. I didn't want to say anything 'til I knew for sure. I guess I'll say something now. | 20:50 |
JesusFreak316 | it is on androlib though. | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | i think he's got all the stuff in his post | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | although he does say it is on the market as well | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | i've noticed people posting saying we don't have full market access because of build.prop issues & our devices not being 'official' | 20:53 |
arrrghhh | i haven't had any issues, but i don't download 10,000 apps either. | 20:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Ditto; only app missing I've seen is angry birds though. | 20:53 |
arrrghhh | lol everyone asks about that | 20:54 |
arrrghhh | must be a pretty awesome game! | 20:54 |
JesusFreak316 | It's a fun game, lol. | 20:54 |
JesusFreak316 | My sister has an ipod touch. | 20:54 |
JesusFreak316 | What's the official RHOD xdandrioid thread? | 20:55 |
JesusFreak316 | I wan to see the monkeys. :D | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | official lol | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | oh they're all over ppcg and xda | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 | 20:55 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, never check ppcg. | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | i guess that's the 'official' thread. | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | there's more CDMA guys on that site | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | so i like going there | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | plus, that's the only place wozz has a nand testing thread to my knowledge. | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | damnit i have no service. i must've missed this startup... | 20:57 |
JesusFreak316 | Wow, how did I miss that thread at the top of the page? O.o | 20:57 |
JesusFreak316 | It booted this time though? | 20:57 |
arrrghhh | yea, this isn't a test kernel. | 20:58 |
JesusFreak316 | Does Wifi work? | 20:59 |
mes | arrrghhh, you pointed me to a NAND thread at ppcg, but I can't seem to find any discussion about building a NAND | 21:00 |
arrrghhh | mes, well it's not a full NAND... still depends on the SD card. | 21:02 |
arrrghhh | wifi's worked for a while | 21:02 |
mes | yes but how do you make it? | 21:02 |
arrrghhh | i didn't test if it was re-busted haha | 21:02 |
arrrghhh | mes, make it? not sure. i only know how to install/run it if that's what you mean... i'm pretty sure it's based on tinboot. | 21:02 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I meant with that specific kernel. | 21:03 |
arrrghhh | well i'm testing several... which one haha? | 21:03 |
JesusFreak316 | Any particular reason you're testing? | 21:04 |
JesusFreak316 | I meant the one that you said had no service. | 21:04 |
arrrghhh | oh i think that was a startup.txt issue that i'm looking at now | 21:04 |
mes | make it, you know start with source code, compile, link organize it to boot from whatever a NBH is | 21:04 |
arrrghhh | and i'm testing all sortsa stuff for RHOD, whatever devs are working on. | 21:04 |
mes | but tinboot I'll look it up | 21:04 |
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arrrghhh | mes, ah. i would not be the guy who could help you there | 21:04 |
arrrghhh | <------ not even close to being a dev. | 21:05 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, ok. | 21:05 |
JesusFreak316 | <------- me either. | 21:05 |
JesusFreak316 | :) | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | mes, in that thread i think that NeoPeek guy asks about it and acl gives him links to the sources... | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | do you need a link to that thread again...? | 21:05 |
Mangeru | would anyone be able to help me out with XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6) for verizon touch pro2 | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean rel 1.6...? | 21:06 |
mes | arrrghhh, no I still have it open, but I'll look for Neopeek | 21:06 |
JesusFreak316 | Mangeru: What's your issue? | 21:06 |
arrrghhh | mes, alrighty. i think it's page 6, that thread isn't so unweildly lol | 21:06 |
arrrghhh | that may be a good place to start JesusFreak316 lol | 21:06 |
mes | no, not like some others I know | 21:07 |
Mangeru | my phone keeps shutting off on it own | 21:08 |
Mangeru | the keyboard doesnt light up | 21:08 |
JesusFreak316 | Mangeru: When you say shut off do you mean reboots into winmo or just freezes and won't resume. | 21:09 |
Mangeru | it reboots to the dualboot screen | 21:09 |
JesusFreak316 | I don't think the keyboard light is currently supported on tp2, though I could be mistaken. | 21:09 |
JesusFreak316 | Okay, that's Winmo. All that app does is tell winmo to close and start android. | 21:10 |
JesusFreak316 | You updated to all the newest files? zImage, rootfs.img, system.ext2 etc? | 21:10 |
arrrghhh | keyboard light does not currently work on tp2 | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | if you want it stuck on all the time, turn it on while booting android. | 21:12 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh owns a tp2; I don't. | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | same with the 4-button lights at the bottom of the phone. but there is an awesome dev working on these things + ambient light sensor. his code works very, very well and hopefully it'll get commited into the mainline soon. | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, what build are you running? | 21:13 |
Mangeru | im not sure | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | where did you download it from? was it called reference, blazn? | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | did you just click randomly on the interwebs and manage to get it downloaded & installed? if so, i am impressed. | 21:14 |
Mangeru | i tried to use the zip file with zImage, rootfs.img, system.ext2 but that got stuck on the booting screen | 21:14 |
Mangeru | so i did the cab file | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | oy | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | the cab is dangerous | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | MGJDroidUtil hasn't been updated yet | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | and it causes horrible damage to the startup.txt at random | 21:15 |
arrrghhh | or what seems like random. | 21:15 |
Mangeru | oh man | 21:15 |
Mangeru | should i delete that whole thing from the phone? | 21:15 |
arrrghhh | eh sure why not | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | always a good idea to start clean | 21:16 |
Mangeru | i also tried to do it with the RhodiumXDAndroid26.01.10 zip file | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | 1/26? | 21:16 |
Mangeru | but android didnt load | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | as in janurary 26? | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | i think i spelt that wrong eep! | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | january, god that's awful. | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | either way, that's an OLD build. where are you getting this stuff from? | 21:17 |
Mangeru | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362 | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, i thought you said you have a touchpro2...? | 21:18 |
Mangeru | yes | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | RHOD500? | 21:18 |
Mangeru | for verizon | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | so would you like to tell me what you're doing in the blackstone section downloading builds lol!?!? | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | that thread is also outdated. | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | last update 9/3... i mean not that outdated. but still, outdated. | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | besides the fact that it's not even in the right section for your device. | 21:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Try this download: http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/%5BMJG%5DRhod.2.2BLAZN.092610.rar | 21:20 |
Mangeru | i could not find the one for the rhodium | 21:20 |
JesusFreak316 | It's the overclocked and tweaked build. | 21:20 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, you've GOT to be kidding me. | 21:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Newest everything. | 21:20 |
Mangeru | thank you jesus freak | 21:21 |
arrrghhh | nice, handfeed him the attack page link | 21:21 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 21:21 |
Mangeru | im all new to this android on winmo thing | 21:21 |
JesusFreak316 | I do what I can. :) | 21:21 |
Mangeru | i just got fed up with winmo | 21:21 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, that's why you should do a LOT more reading | 21:21 |
JesusFreak316 | Do you have winrar or 7-zip installed? | 21:21 |
arrrghhh | and don't be feeding the wildlife JesusFreak316... c'mon now. | 21:21 |
Mangeru | yes | 21:21 |
JesusFreak316 | lol | 21:21 |
JesusFreak316 | https://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq | 21:21 |
JesusFreak316 | Is that betterr? | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | that's much better | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | haha | 21:22 |
JesusFreak316 | There's some reading amterial for you. | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, seriously tho, i have read SO much about this project, and i still feel like i know very little. | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | there's just a lot to know, you can't just expect to jump into it and have it work perfectly. it's not exactly ready for general consumption yet. | 21:22 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: What would you call ready for general consumption? | 21:23 |
Mangeru | well dont be dick and tell me that from the start | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, flashable. idiot-proof basically. | 21:23 |
* arrrghhh is a dick | 21:23 | |
arrrghhh | and i don't care | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | why would i have to tell you that from the start? | 21:23 |
JesusFreak316 | Mangeru: True, but no need to call names. | 21:23 |
JesusFreak316 | It is always a good idea to read ALOT before you try complex thing like this. | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | nah, it's a fair assessment. but you're an idiot n00b who thinks they can swim in the ocean with no swimming lessons. | 21:24 |
JesusFreak316 | Mangeru: Number one thing though; read that faq page I listed. | 21:25 |
Mangeru | i definitely will | 21:25 |
JesusFreak316 | How about for now though we get that build I posted for you working? ;) | 21:26 |
JesusFreak316 | You downloading it yet? | 21:26 |
Mangeru | its downloaded | 21:27 |
Mangeru | ill give it a try now | 21:27 |
JesusFreak316 | First things first though. | 21:27 |
JesusFreak316 | Extract it then edit your startup.txt | 21:28 |
Mangeru | already extracted it | 21:28 |
Mangeru | what should i edit it to? | 21:29 |
JesusFreak316 | You MUST change your mtype in startup.txt to something | 21:29 |
JesusFreak316 | lol looking it up now | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, that'll be right | 21:30 |
arrrghhh | the only thing he should need to change from that fresh build is the force_cdma command | 21:30 |
JesusFreak316 | But he has a rhod500... | 21:30 |
arrrghhh | that's a different mtype? | 21:31 |
Mangeru | edit it before it goes on the sd card? | 21:31 |
JesusFreak316 | CDMA right? | 21:31 |
Mangeru | yes | 21:31 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, before or after, doesn't make a difference. | 21:31 |
JesusFreak316 | Doesn't matter when you edit as long as you do it before you start haret.exe | 21:31 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, i think the devices are similar enough. there's just a rhod startup and a tilt2 startup. | 21:32 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, well then go ahead and try it. | 21:32 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, so find that force_cdma command. should say it equals 0 by default, change it to 1. | 21:32 |
JesusFreak316 | True, that one's important. | 21:32 |
arrrghhh | that should be the only thing you'll need to adjust from that download mr. JesusFreak316 sent. | 21:32 |
JesusFreak316 | Mr. lol | 21:33 |
JesusFreak316 | Not "Mr. lol" but lol you called me Mr. :p | 21:33 |
Mangeru | so after i change that to one is good to go on the card? | 21:34 |
JesusFreak316 | Should be. | 21:35 |
Mangeru | cool | 21:35 |
Mangeru | ill give it a try now | 21:35 |
mes | stinebd, it seems the rootdelay=10 or some number is necessary as well | 21:35 |
* JesusFreak316 Crosses fingers | 21:36 | |
JesusFreak316 | I actually showed a guy in my calc class Monday how to use xdandroid. lol | 21:36 |
JesusFreak316 | Meant Friday. | 21:36 |
Mangeru | the xandroid is an awesome thing | 21:37 |
JesusFreak316 | Works? | 21:37 |
Mangeru | havent start it yet | 21:38 |
Mangeru | but im just saying that its a really awesome idea | 21:38 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, do it! The suspense is killing me!!! | 21:38 |
JesusFreak316 | lol | 21:38 |
Mangeru | hahahaha | 21:38 |
JesusFreak316 | That it is; that it is. Thankfully it's much more than an idea though. | 21:38 |
Mangeru | its bootinh | 21:38 |
Mangeru | *booting | 21:39 |
JesusFreak316 | Well, that at least means the mtype was correct. | 21:39 |
Mangeru | the xandroid animation came on | 21:41 |
JesusFreak316 | Did that happen before? | 21:41 |
Mangeru | yea | 21:41 |
Mangeru | it worked | 21:41 |
Mangeru | but theres no service | 21:41 |
JesusFreak316 | What about wifi? | 21:42 |
JesusFreak316 | Not even phone service? | 21:42 |
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arrrghhh | first boot can take up to 10 mins | 21:44 |
JesusFreak316 | It's already finished I assume since he said he has no service. | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | oh i thought he was talking about the last boot | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | i followed that wrong | 21:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Actually you might be right but my grammar Nazi side noticed he used present tense. | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, confirm! | 21:48 |
Mangeru | it loaded | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | we need to settle this argument | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | and i think i was right :P | 21:48 |
JesusFreak316 | haha | 21:48 |
Mangeru | but when i try to open an application it reboots itself | 21:48 |
JesusFreak316 | If you're right all you proved is that his grammar is lacking, lol. | 21:48 |
JesusFreak316 | Any application? | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | i heard people reporting this with the browser | 21:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Reboots into Winmo or the Android boot animation? | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | i was never able to reproduce it. | 21:49 |
Mangeru | it rebooted to android | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, can you let it sit for a little bit before opening an app? | 21:49 |
JesusFreak316 | That's better than rebooting to winmo at least. | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | i don't get why it happens tho. i'm wondering if there's an issue with the RHOD500 | 21:50 |
Mangeru | can it be the tikl app? | 21:50 |
Mangeru | it happened when i tried to open it 3 times in a row | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, you've already downloaded apps? | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | so the market worked...? | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | you did start with a clean build, i assume... | 21:51 |
Mangeru | i did with the other one you said it was a bad one | 21:51 |
Mangeru | the cab one | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | well wait | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | if you started with a clean build | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | you shouldn't have any apps | 21:52 |
Mangeru | oh then it wasnt a clean build | 21:52 |
* JesusFreak316 slaps forehead. | 21:52 | |
Mangeru | because it has the facebook app i downloaded with the other one | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | oy ve | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | did you copy over what you had? | 21:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Reboot to Windows Mobile, delete data.img, then reboot android. | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | and it very well may be that tikl app dude | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | not all apps work - start with the ones in the build lol | 21:53 |
JesusFreak316 | That should fix your data connection too. | 21:53 |
Mangeru | cool | 21:54 |
arrrghhh | and yes, delete the data.img and boot again. i guess we weren't clear enough - you should've deleted everything from the cab. | 21:54 |
arrrghhh | i thought you said you were going to do that in fact. | 21:54 |
Mangeru | im going to reboot on winmo and delete that | 21:54 |
Mangeru | yea i deleted the cab | 21:54 |
JesusFreak316 | That would explain the fast boot, lol. | 21:54 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, the cab installs a bunch of stuff that has to be deleted separately. | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | "<Mangeru> oh man | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | <Mangeru> should i delete that whole thing from the phone? | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> eh sure why not | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> always a good idea to start clean" | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | oh if you uninstall the cab it doesn't remove all the stuff it puts on the SD? | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | i guess that makes sense... meh. | 21:55 |
arrrghhh | i loathe the cab. it fosters ignorance of the underlying system. | 21:56 |
Mangeru | so anything i should delete apart from data.img? | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | so did you just copy over what you had i'm guessing? | 21:57 |
arrrghhh | how did you get the extracted rar onto the SD? | 21:57 |
Mangeru | i did 7zip | 21:57 |
arrrghhh | everything else should've overwritten... system.ext2, zimage, etc. | 21:57 |
JesusFreak316 | Just data.img. | 21:57 |
Mangeru | but i deleted the cab before doing all of that | 21:57 |
arrrghhh | that doesn't answer my question, but whatever. delete the data.img and boot again. | 21:57 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: What about the cache folder? I've heard some people recommend deleting that too. | 21:58 |
arrrghhh | uhm... i honestly don't know what that does. | 21:58 |
arrrghhh | i almost want to say format the sd and start truly fresh. | 21:58 |
arrrghhh | not like it takes a long time. | 21:58 |
JesusFreak316 | Depends on how many files he needs to back up. That would take hours for me. | 21:59 |
JesusFreak316 | 90% filled 16gb card. | 21:59 |
arrrghhh | dayum | 21:59 |
JesusFreak316 | haha | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | is it music? | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | that's filling your SD that is. | 22:00 |
JesusFreak316 | Lots of music, winmo apps, 2 xdandroid builds, ubuntu, etc. | 22:00 |
JesusFreak316 | Final Fantasy 7 doesn't help lol. | 22:01 |
Mangeru | in what file would data.img be? | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, probably andboot | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | i'm assuming you meant folder | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | data.img is a file | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | damnit now i'm a grammar nazi. | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | or a tech term nazi | 22:02 |
Mangeru | oops | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | either way. | 22:02 |
Mangeru | thatswhat i meant | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | yea, i made a radical assumption lol | 22:03 |
Mangeru | i dont have that folder | 22:03 |
Mangeru | i mightve deleted it with the cab file | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | what do you have on your SD | 22:04 |
JesusFreak316 | ^ Good question. | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, to avoid the OT in the thread, i swear the mutlitouch worked on the raph. it basically calculates the distance between the touches and voila multitouch. it only works for 2 points i assume | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | perhaps i can find the thread in question | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | good god my laptop is on fire. | 22:05 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: Yes that is true but that isn't useful for the game. It's only really useful for pinch zoom. | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure why it wouldn't be | 22:06 |
JesusFreak316 | One point must stay stationary for the algorithm to work. | 22:06 |
JesusFreak316 | That's why. | 22:06 |
arrrghhh | but i don't really know that much about the technical details behind it | 22:06 |
arrrghhh | lol that would cause an issue. didn't realize that :P | 22:06 |
JesusFreak316 | It essentially just notices when the position of the touch on the screen and jumps, then determines where the second touch would be so that it detects the midpoint. | 22:07 |
JesusFreak316 | *Not and jumps just "jumps" | 22:07 |
arrrghhh | huh | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | wacky | 22:08 |
JesusFreak316 | It's a relatively simple, but effective hack. | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | yea, that's definitely sweet. i didn't realize you couldn't move both points tho. | 22:09 |
JesusFreak316 | It'd be cool to incorporate that into xdandroid, but that might be pretty low on the to-do list. :) | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, so you still haven't told us what's the on the SD... are you just formatting and starting fresh? | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | oh yea | 22:09 |
Mangeru | ill have to do that | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | that'd be like a oh so now that we're flashing this and there's nothing left to fix haha... | 22:09 |
Mangeru | but i have to back up a whole bunch of pictures and videos | 22:10 |
JesusFreak316 | I don't know for a fact that you can't but I don't see how it could calculate the position if one finger moves. | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | eh you don't have to Mangeru | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | you should have backups of all that stuff anyways, there's potential for XDAndroid to damage the SD. | 22:10 |
JesusFreak316 | ^QFT | 22:10 |
Mangeru | oooh | 22:10 |
JesusFreak316 | Always have a backup of sd. | 22:10 |
JesusFreak316 | I've never had an issue but there's always the possibility. Very unlikely. | 22:11 |
Mangeru | will do | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | now i've never had an issue... but all i have on the card are xda builds and some music i grabbed thru subsonic. so i could lose it all and not shed a tear lol | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | haha | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | just have to put in the 'at your own risk' caveat. | 22:11 |
JesusFreak316 | pretty much, but lots of people ignore that statement then complain at us when something messes up. | 22:12 |
Mangeru | should i start the whole thing over | 22:12 |
Mangeru | ? | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | of course | 22:13 |
JesusFreak316 | arrghhh? Why? | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | oh sorry | 22:13 |
Mangeru | i have to step away but i really really appreciate you guys walking me through this | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | of course was to your statement JesusFreak316 | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | Mangeru, you don't have to start over, but you never went over what's on your sd. | 22:14 |
JesusFreak316 | Just delete data.img and boot again. | 22:14 |
JesusFreak316 | ah. | 22:14 |
JesusFreak316 | Mangeru: You're welcome; we can't help develop the project so we help you get it working. :) | 22:15 |
arrrghhh | yea, i thought he couldn't find his data.img | 22:15 |
Mangeru | awesome...you guys have been really helpful | 22:15 |
arrrghhh | but if it's not at the root or in the andboot folder, Android probably won't boot. | 22:15 |
arrrghhh | unless he modded the startup with the rel_path statement, which i seriously doubt. | 22:16 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, where'd you extract the .rar to? | 22:16 |
arrrghhh | it's gotta be either at the root of the SD or in the andboot folder... | 22:16 |
Mangeru | im extracting it to the root of the sd | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | your data.img should be there as well. | 22:17 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, you delete it yet? | 22:18 |
Mangeru | havent found it yet | 22:18 |
Mangeru | ill try to get that straighten out | 22:18 |
Mangeru | thank you so much fellas | 22:18 |
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JesusFreak316 | otay, there he goes. | 22:19 |
JesusFreak316 | or she I guess. | 22:19 |
arrrghhh | i don't think a chick would go online with a handle like Mangeru LOL | 22:19 |
JesusFreak316 | What's Mangeru? | 22:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Do I want to know? | 22:20 |
arrrghhh | eh i dunno. just sounds... not girly. | 22:20 |
arrrghhh | it's got man in the name, c'mon. | 22:20 |
arrrghhh | :P | 22:20 |
JesusFreak316 | lol | 22:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Love guru? | 22:21 |
JesusFreak316 | That's what I thought of. | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | man guru.... *shudders* | 22:21 |
JesusFreak316 | Soooo, how's the kernel testing going? | 22:23 |
arrrghhh | eh | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | stagnant | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | i keep hoping to catch WisTilt2 | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | he's doing some awesome work. | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | all of camro's kernels won't boot :P | 22:24 |
JesusFreak316 | What are they working on mainly atm? | 22:25 |
camro | only on rhod | 22:25 |
camro | there is a usb/battery problem | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | well WisTilt is working on ambient light sensor & button lights. hopefully kbd lights to follow. | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | camro, haha no worries dude. it booted in NAND, but ACL keeps telling me that kernel isn't meant for NAND. | 22:26 |
camro | my test kernel is only for haret | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | huh | 22:26 |
JesusFreak316 | Would ambient light work for all devices? That would be VERY nice to have. | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | perhaps there's something that i don't understand about NAND booting... i may not have been using your kernel at all. | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, he has a Tilt2... so i'm not sure if it's any other devices. | 22:27 |
JesusFreak316 | :( | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | lol you can test the kernel if you want to | 22:27 |
JesusFreak316 | Everyone seems to be working on RHOD and HD2 now. | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | yea, HD2 has made ridiculous progress. | 22:28 |
JesusFreak316 | At least stinebd and phh still have raphaels. | 22:28 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, camera even works. | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | i know it | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | it seems that sneaky russian Coutella has some NAND code in the works | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:29 |
JesusFreak316 | For Rhod or hd2? | 22:29 |
JesusFreak316 | I know rhod is almost done. | 22:29 |
JesusFreak316 | I thought I heard hd2 was close too. | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | hd2 | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | eh, not almost... | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | are you talking about NAND or overall? | 22:29 |
JesusFreak316 | I knew that was a bad choice of words right after I said it. | 22:30 |
JesusFreak316 | I meant nand. | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | i dunno. i thought wozz was real close, but last i heard he was stuck... | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | haven't seen him on here in a while | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | or posting on ppcg, kinda worries me lol | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | actually no lol. wtf, it does worry me damnit. too much internets. | 22:32 |
JesusFreak316 | I'm personally trying to cut down on my phone usage; waste too much time on it. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | yea, i waste a lot of time on my puter | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | damnit that reminds me... i still need to get transcoding working right on my server. ugh. | 22:34 |
JesusFreak316 | Haven't been cutting off 'puter stuff much though. :) Love Minecraft too much to give it up, lol. | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | minecraft? | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | never heard of it. | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | i just keep mucking with my server. drives my gf mad, but there's always ways to make things work better haha | 22:40 |
JesusFreak316 | Minecraft's a new indie game that's gotten rather popular. They mentioned it on the Team Fortress 2 blog. | 22:41 |
JesusFreak316 | What's your server for? | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | huh | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | all sortsa stuff | 22:42 |
JesusFreak316 | You have your own website? | 22:42 |
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arrrghhh | ubuntu-server for sharing files, webserver, rutorrent+rtorrent+rssdler for automatic TV show downloads, streams all to my PS3 in glorious 1080p and surround sound (where available) | 22:43 |
Fill | hi | 22:43 |
Fill | i have a question | 22:43 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, eh, it's not much of a site but yea. | 22:43 |
arrrghhh | Fill, what's up | 22:43 |
JesusFreak316 | Fill: Shoot. | 22:43 |
Fill | how can i change the color of the status bar / notification bar | 22:43 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh, not bad. | 22:43 |
JesusFreak316 | You probably want to look into metamorph. | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | Fill, hrm... i don't think that's easy. | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | metamorph? is that an app? | 22:44 |
JesusFreak316 | That's the only major theming system I know of. | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | i thought google made it difficult to retheme that for some reason. | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | i mean a lot of aspects can be changed, but i thought the status bar color was fairly difficult to change. that could be old or just plain incorrect information tho. | 22:44 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: I don't know what to classify it as but almost all themes are for metamorph. | 22:44 |
arrrghhh | huh | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | ok | 22:45 |
JesusFreak316 | It requires root access. | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | i should check it out. | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | well, assuming he's using XDAndroid that's no problem :D | 22:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 22:45 |
Fill | but its possible? | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | Fill, you tell us. check out that app. | 22:45 |
Fill | metamorph? | 22:45 |
JesusFreak316 | yeah, never used it though. | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | tell me soon, i want to know now. | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | :D | 22:45 |
JesusFreak316 | This donut build I believe is themed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739730 | 22:46 |
JesusFreak316 | That's definitely not stock. | 22:46 |
JesusFreak316 | Just as an example. | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | yea, depending on your device the blazn builds by reef are pretty slick looking | 22:46 |
Fill | true, but i use the latest version (17-09-2010) | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | 9/26 would be the 'newest' | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | well, i guess that depends on device too. d'oh. | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | what device do you have Fill ? | 22:47 |
Fill | diamond | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | ah | 22:47 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, didn't mean to use that build, just that that's the kind of stuff metamorph is capable of. | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | nvm. | 22:47 |
JesusFreak316 | Here's metamorph info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591329 | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, the link generator. | 22:48 |
Fill | where can i download the 9/26? | 22:48 |
JesusFreak316 | It's called searching the forums. | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | Fill, sorry i don't think that applies to the diam. you can download the new kernel, not sure if there's any fixes. | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, i know, you're doing it for them... | 22:48 |
Fill | ok tnx, i gonna try metamorph and tell you when i got it :D | 22:49 |
Fill | again, many thanks! | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | hey JesusFreak316, how does the accelerometer work on the RAPH? | 22:55 |
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JesusFreak316 | Quite well. | 22:55 |
arrrghhh | i used to just turn it off | 22:55 |
arrrghhh | that's good | 22:55 |
arrrghhh | i noticed it works pretty well on RHOD too. | 22:55 |
arrrghhh | it's funny, i think it rotates a little slowly... but then i think how it works on winmo, and it's actually quicker. i just expect android to just be so smooth and snappy lol. | 22:56 |
JesusFreak316 | I turn off autorotate for the home screen but it works great in apps for the most part. | 22:56 |
arrrghhh | so you turn off the "Orientation" setting in the display section? | 22:56 |
JesusFreak316 | Some apps the calibration is off, such as the dogfighting (planes not the illegal kind) one has the left and right controls reversed. | 22:57 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 22:57 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:57 |
arrrghhh | i love how you clarify dogfighting. | 22:57 |
arrrghhh | perhaps qualify would be a better word there | 22:58 |
arrrghhh | but hey | 22:58 |
arrrghhh | wow, i didn't have the rel_path statement configured correctly and it booted... | 23:00 |
JesusFreak316 | Yay, fellow grammar nazi! | 23:00 |
JesusFreak316 | What folder? | 23:00 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:00 |
arrrghhh | well I have everything in /Androids/xxxx | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | like this one was /Androids/TP2Blazn | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | and the rel_path was set to andboot | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | haha | 23:01 |
JesusFreak316 | odd. | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | i'm surprised it found the rootfs.img | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | i don't know how it did TBH | 23:01 |
JesusFreak316 | MAGIC RAINBOW UNICORN TEARS!!!1! | 23:02 |
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