Friday, 2010-08-06

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krziei have a topaz (diamond2), i extracted XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z to my sd card root per the directions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493    but when i run haret.exe it just reboots windows09:36
krzieany suggestions?09:36
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paalsteekkrzie: is it an t5353 or a newer version?09:40
krziegood question, you know how i can check?09:41
krzieahh there it is, under battery09:44
krziet535309:44
krziepaalsteek, is that good?09:57
paalsteekits the same as i have09:57
paalsteekand for me its working09:57
krzieawesome!09:57
paalsteekso it should be possible for you too09:57
krzieso i must have just missed a step, did you use the same post as me? i only used 1 of those 4 downloads09:57
paalsteekyour sdcard looks like in the forum?09:57
krzieyes, except it also has a modules .tar.gz09:58
paalsteekthats right09:59
paalsteekwhat do you see when running haret?09:59
paalsteekdo you see some text on a black screen?10:00
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krzieit says booting linux, but then just reboots into windows10:03
krziescreen goes black, says touch diamond210:03
krzieno linux-like scroll whatso-ever10:03
paalsteekweird10:04
krziedid you use XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z   only?10:05
paalsteeki think so yes10:06
paalsteekmaybe try updating rootfs and kernel10:06
krziei have done nothing at all to the phone, except unzip that file and put it into the sdcard (and of course move the topaz startup.txt file to root)10:06
krzieso if im supposed to do something else first, i have not10:07
paalsteekhttp://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/10:07
paalsteekhttp://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/10:07
paalsteekdownload the newest versions of both and extract the first one to your sdcard10:07
paalsteekmove the second on to your sdcard and rename it to rootfs.img (overwrite the old one)10:07
paalsteekthen rename zImage_2010... to zImage (overwrite the old one)10:08
paalsteekand then try to boot again10:08
krziecool, downloading and booting windows VM10:09
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krzieare you running eclair or froyo?10:12
paalsteekfroyo.10:16
paalsteekstill not working?10:16
WisTilt2phh you around?  We have adsp interrupts working, adsp_write, adsp_get_event, irq acks, etc.  Something wrong in the ADSP_RTOS_xxxx code possibly though.  I'll be around here most of the morning if you want to discuss.10:16
krziepaalsteek, gimme a min, im on 3rd world bandwidth =[10:17
phhWisTilt2: how ?10:17
WisTilt2how what?10:18
phhyou got interrupts10:18
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WisTilt2kind of lengthy to detail here obviously.  basically we coded a stripped down kernel to communicate to the hardware with our own callback tests. nevertheless, we added some of our changes to the existing project code to get the ints running.  here's where we are as of now...10:22
phhright10:23
phhthings we can't integrate since it's obvious it needs docs.10:24
WisTilt2when a sound is told to play, everything sets up ok like audmgr, etc., and then msm_adsp_write runs, fills queue, we get the irq, triggers get_event, then begin getting the "adsp: not ready after 100us" loop.  we get that message every 10 seconds and get_event is triggered in sync with it.10:27
WisTilt2if that makes sense?  kind of hard to explain everything that's going on but that's whats happening basically.10:27
WisTilt2why cant we integrate? everything is working now but it looks like the ADSP_RTOS area might be where the problem is at this point since the dsp isnt liking the command being sent in that area.10:29
phhI don't think both IRQ *and* ADSP communication stuff can be wrong at the same time ...10:30
phhit must be some wrong init somewhere10:30
phhand adsp_rtos is the part of the code I've the most reverse engineered10:31
phhand found it's exactly the same code10:31
phhespecially this "not ready after 100uS" part10:32
WisTilt2well the fact that we are now getting ints that are now letting the adsp irq handler actually execute, it seems pretty much a matter of verifying the adsp_rtos init code is correct.10:34
krziepaalsteek, same results10:36
paalsteeki have no idea what else could be wrong10:37
paalsteeksorry10:37
sle118phh, Bonjour du Quebec! Merci de travailler sur XDAndroid!10:37
krziedid i need HardSPL before or something?10:37
WisTilt2we haven't gone that far into adsp_rtos yet, we just spent the last 2 days working on the interrupt issue.  was hoping you might have some insight in the adsp_rtos area before we waste a lot of time.10:37
krziepaalsteek, i see people talking about HardSPL but dont know what it is... do i need that before i can run android?10:38
phhWisTilt2: yup, the wince driver reads adsp's ready state the same way we do.10:39
phhkrzie: no10:39
m_a_r_kkrzie: google search to learn what it actually does.10:40
krzieweirdness, i have the same stuff as paalsteek and his works, mine does not... thank you paalsteek for trying10:42
krzieoh i see, hardspl is for installing a different rom10:42
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krziei have no need for that, just want linux so i can automate a task...10:43
WisTilt2phh: ok but is everything identical in the init also, as far as what wince is doing?10:43
phhWisTilt2: i couldn t fin init stuff10:43
krziethis phone will belong to the boss, i want to make a 1-button click for him to connect openvpn, run an app over the vpn, then open a browser to the statistics which my app generates =]10:43
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krzieit wont even be used as a phone, it will have 3g and only exist for that single purpose10:44
phhhuhu10:44
TheDeadCPUphh, did you have a Acer F1?10:45
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phhi have.10:47
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TheDeadCPUStupid internet. Did you answer me phh ?10:47
phhi do have a liquid10:48
TheDeadCPUOh ok.10:48
phhwhy ?10:50
paalsteekkrzie: i will upload what works for me to my server10:50
TheDeadCPUThe F1 forum needs a Moderator, so I was thinking about telling you if you had a F1.10:51
phhno thanks10:51
TheDeadCPUlol10:51
phhor10:51
TheDeadCPUI was just pitching the idea.10:51
krziepaalsteek, awesome! thank you very much!10:51
TheDeadCPUThe liquid forum already have one though.10:51
phhoh f1 is the wimo one ?10:52
TheDeadCPUYea.10:53
phhyeah, no thanks :p10:53
TheDeadCPUI thought it was the Android one lol10:53
TheDeadCPUI pissed of the American mods by saying Jack Daniels is pisswater.10:56
TheDeadCPUFunneh.10:56
krzieas an american, i fully agree with you10:56
TheDeadCPU:D10:56
TheDeadCPUIt tastes like Burnt moonshine.10:57
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krzie1st gen macbook pro is biting the dust, 6 yrs of faithful service and its ready for retirement, but i will have a new fully loaded MBP very very soon =]11:06
phhtoo bad11:07
krzieya too bad this one is dying, but really i am impressed by how long it survived11:07
krzieit has been on all day almost every day for years11:08
krziewith pretty heavy usage11:08
krziethat is why im willing to spend the serious $$ to get a new fully loaded one11:08
krziewell fully loaded except the SSD, i am doing that aftermarket with a kit that mods the dvd bay into another HD bay, with a better drive than they ship with11:10
paalsteekkrzie: http://stephan-platz.de/xdandroid.7z11:13
paalsteeksorry wrong link: http://xdandroid.stephan-platz.de/xdandroid.7z11:14
krziethank you!11:15
krziesry bout my low bw, i can grab it from a 100mbit and xfer to me from there if you like11:16
paalsteekdon't worry about that11:16
krziecool11:16
paalsteekas long a you are getting ready the next 1.5 hours i'm stil online11:17
paalsteek*still11:17
TheDeadCPUAnyone know why babijoee hasn't been on here for a while?11:21
krzieif the speed stays constant i should have it in ~ 40min11:21
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paalsteekTheDeadCPU: babijoee was here yesterday11:24
paalsteekuntil 6 pm cest = 4 pm utc11:25
TheDeadCPUDamn,.11:26
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hamagckrzie, i think your problem is the startup.txt file. thats usually the issue when haret loads and the phone just resets.11:53
krzieahh interesting11:53
krziein 5min i will have paalsteek's setup which is working on his11:53
krziei will check if his startup.txt is different in addition to testing if his boots as-is11:54
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hamagcdamned quassel is broken for me again11:57
hamagcdoesn't want to update the chatroom anymore11:57
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hamagctest12:00
krziepong12:00
paalsteeki have to go12:00
paalsteekkrzie: hope it will work for you12:01
paalsteekby12:01
krziethank you again12:04
krziebye12:04
krzieonly diff in our startup.txt is his has htc_hw.call_vol=0" at the end of his set cmdline12:05
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krziei wonder if activesync was converting something12:11
krziedisabled that, now moving files over to the phone to test PS's known working config12:12
krziehrm, does the same thing!12:14
krzieso weird12:14
krziei am using the exact same files that paalsteek is using, they work for him and not for me12:14
krzieand we have the same model diamond212:16
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hamagcquassel broke :(12:20
krziedoh12:20
gladiac_huh?12:20
krziecan i paste you what i said when you were gone?12:20
hamagci got it in the logs12:20
hamagcso hmm, still rebooting after haret?12:20
krziecan i paste you what i said when you were gone?12:20
krzieyes12:20
hamagcno text on the screen or anything?12:21
krzieoops12:21
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krziei meant to say "you have logs from when your client was not here"12:21
krzienope, no text at all12:21
krziejust reboot12:21
krziemaybe i should reset first, no idea what is on the phone from previous owner12:21
krzieit had previous calls and whatnot12:21
krziemaybe he had something that broke it somehow if that is possible *shrug*12:22
hamagcehh, wouldn't make any difference12:22
krzieok12:22
krziethe files i am using in my storage card now are = to paalsteek's, and his boots12:23
krzieso i assume that rules them out as the issue12:23
hamagcare you using the same startup.txt? or does it just look the same?12:23
hamagci have seen some weird things with formatting of the startup.txt (little squares instead of lines) that have caused issues.12:23
krziei un7zip the 7z he gave me, and moved them all to the storage card using activesync without conversion enabled12:24
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krziei can look at it in unix so see if has CRLF or something12:25
hamagcand your on diamond2?12:26
hamagcthe only thing i can really think is the startup.txt12:26
hamagcby the time haret reboots you the only thing loaded is startup.txt12:26
krzielooks fine from bash and in WM on the diamond212:26
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVObabijoee!12:27
krziehttp://pastebin.com/mcMCnXMQ12:27
babijoeeyo12:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVODo you have anything to do with xda accepting my moderator application?12:29
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hamagchmm that looks right12:38
MrObviousMorning.12:49
babijoeenop12:50
babijoeewhich forum u under?12:50
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paalsteekkrzie: did you try formatting your sdcard13:22
paalsteekmaybe thats an issue for the kernel13:22
paalsteekalso i have a little different setting on my device but currently no chance to get in to the internet13:22
hamagcthat was going to be my next suggestiong. use the hp format tool to format it.13:27
gladiac_isn't he on linux? he can just use mkfs.vfat after using fdisk to create the first primary partition...13:29
TheDeadCPUbabijoee, Legend and X10 Mini.13:36
babijoeeah k13:37
babijoeenice13:37
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TheDeadCPU'Cause someone has said I was ok for it..13:38
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ReeferMorning guys13:41
Reefergrrr wtf is up with my name.13:41
MrObviousIf you're registered with nickserv just kick it out.13:42
MrObvious/msg nickserv ghost username pass13:42
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ReefermattnessThanks :)  I was trying the wrong command13:43
krziepaalsteek, nope, but i will try now13:44
ReefermattnessAnyone who knows I have a quick question. Im looking at this new thread in the tp2 section for the neocore builds.  Would it also speed up our builds it we formatted our SD card in the same 3 FAT/EXT/SWAP partitions?  Or would it break our builds?13:49
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krziei also reset the phone to factory settings, for the hell of it14:01
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krzieinteresting, i got resco explorer and am trying to format the sd, it says to check if it is unlocked14:17
krzienow i think i have found the problem, its sdhc14:17
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krzieoh nope, that should not be a problem, its only 4gb14:19
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TheDeadCPUAnyone here have experience moderating vBulletin boards?14:57
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krziei just got a new card reader, gunna check if i can format from pc15:14
krzieTheDeadCPU, i cant remember what the openvpn forum used to run, but now its phpbb15:14
krziei mod it15:14
krzieso if it was vbulletin, then yes, but im not sure15:15
TheDeadCPUYou might be able to help. I want to insert a post into the thread. Like, so that it's the second post in the thread.15:15
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TheDeadCPUI know it is possible, but I don't know how.15:15
krziehrm, not sure15:20
TheDeadCPUkk15:21
TheDeadCPUCan't find it online either.15:21
krzielooked in their manual?15:23
TheDeadCPUYup15:23
krziehttp://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/vb2_manual_cp_addingforums15:23
krzieoh15:23
TheDeadCPUI've searched all of vBulletin15:23
krzieinsert it into the db manually?15:31
TheDeadCPUI don't think the XDA Admins would let me do that lol15:31
krzieahh didnt know that was the forum in question lol15:33
TheDeadCPUlol15:33
krziepaalsteek, ok, tried resetting the phone, formatting the sd, using the same files as you15:35
hamagclol you could just steal someones second post :P15:35
krziesame deal, it just reboots when i run haret15:35
gladiac_still..15:38
hamagcok i think i have something for you15:40
hamagclook here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493&page=38215:42
hamagcbottom of the page, maybe 5 posts up from the bottom. something about monodie which is uncommon in the topaz but is causing issues for those with it?15:44
hamagci dunno as i'm not a topaz guy. some people are saying they didn't have an issue with the newest kernal but worth looking into15:44
krziethanx, reading now16:13
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krziehrm time to figure out how to know if i have monodie or dualdie16:20
sle118hello hamagc16:27
hamagchello sle118\16:27
sle118I experienced something new today with the new kernel16:27
sle118the telephone rebooted itself right after starting to ring16:28
sle118someone (a contact) called in and pouf! reboot!16:28
sle118never had this one16:28
hamagcinteresting, sounds like a kernal panic. happens from time to time.i haven't had that happen myself yet16:28
sle118I guess there is a start for everything16:28
hamagcbut i have seen reports of it16:28
sle118so a reboot is kernel panicÉ16:29
sle118?16:29
sle118Is there a way to retrieve the logs after a crash?16:29
hamagcyes, let me get you a link16:29
hamagchttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10427616:31
hamagcpost #316:31
hamagclogs for debugging16:31
sle118ok16:35
sle118got it16:35
sle118will do16:35
sle118I guess having kernel messages help with the troubleshooting effort16:35
sle118GTG.   Jogging!16:35
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krzieheyyyyy16:38
krziehamagc, i must have a monodie!16:38
hamagcthats what it looks like.16:38
krziehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7267372&postcount=19616:39
krziei used the file from there, and im finally getting somewhere16:39
hamagci saw one person saying something about an older or newer kernal working for him so you might want to play. also you can try to do the same thing i just told sle118 and do a dmesg debug and see if anything different happens.16:39
krziemy needs will be pretty simple, i dont care about wifi or phone, only data16:39
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hamagcwell play with it and let me know if you end up getting a working files to run16:40
krziedefinitely going to play, will report back =]16:41
hamagcnow that kernal is pretty old (7/20) but data should be working. good luck!16:41
krziewell now that THAT works, i will see about getting newer ones16:41
krziefinally have something to start from =]16:41
hamagcit did work for you?16:43
krzieyup, booted right up16:43
hamagcnice!16:43
krzieya man16:44
krzieheres the funny part16:44
krzie[15:36]  <EviL_DORK> the phaser 8400 has been warming up for 10 minutes now16:44
krzie[15:36]  <EviL_DORK> it prints!16:44
krzie[15:38]  <EviL_DORK> clearly it wasn't planning on printing anything until i bitched about it on irc first16:44
krzie[16:31]  <krzie> damn phone wont boot into android16:44
krzie[16:31]  * krzie waits16:44
krzie[16:34]  <EviL_DORK> does it work for phones like it does for printers?16:44
krzie[16:37]  <krzie> muahahaa16:44
krzie[16:37]  <krzie> it works!16:44
hamagclol it looks like it. good old irc. a little complaining on here does wonders i guess16:45
krzielol16:45
xUmaRixwish could use 35mm headset for xdandroid with calls16:56
Reefermattnesswish i had a million dollars16:57
hamagci wish xdandroid was work perfectly :P16:59
krzieit doesnt grant wishes, you need to complain that those things arent true!17:00
krzie;]17:00
hamagclol right17:00
krziehah looks like the monodie you linked me to was the newest17:04
krziewhoa this one boots WAY faster17:06
krziewifi work17:08
hamagcsame kernal?17:09
krziehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=73834117:10
krziethe one from there17:10
krzieposted july2817:10
hamagcok nice. maybe phh can take a look at it to see if it is something we can implement in our build so the new bug fixes posted to the kernal will work with your device.17:11
phh?17:12
phhwhat don't you understand in "Update: The code has been committed to gitorious. Fetch newer builds from the autobuild service. Thanks to everyone who tested!" ?17:12
krziemonodie17:12
phhah.17:13
phhyou're telling me both monodie and dualdie works ?17:13
krzieonly monodie works on my phone, finally got android booting =]17:13
hamagci can't tell lol. he has a monodie working, dualdie works, but it doesn't look like the monodie changes have made it to the regular kernal yet.17:13
phhhamagc: it did17:14
phhbut because of some stupid idiots, we can't keep it17:14
hamagcwell thats stupid17:14
phhwell that's what I've understood, I'll have to ask mweirauch for more details (he is the one who did the monodie thing)17:15
Unholyhello17:34
krziehello17:38
hamagchello17:44
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phhhello17:45
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krzieis it also possible to install android over windows mobile so that i no longer have windows mobile?17:50
phhno17:51
krzieor at least a trick to put haret on the today screen?17:51
phhthere are "dual boot" things17:51
krzie(i will not be the final owner)17:51
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hamagcgen.y dual boot. loads first in windows so you can skip alot of loading time and go right to android. also can put it as a link on the today screen (cookie home tab) and click it to get to android.17:54
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krzieahh sweet17:59
krziethat'll make it much easier for the boss to use18:00
krziei think im going to get myself one of these too18:00
krzie(or maybe il have him get me one ;] )18:00
krziei have an iphone now, but im liking this better18:00
hamagcthat'll happen18:00
krzie"here, it is all setup... i dont know if there will be any problems tho, but if we get me one i can find any issues and how to fix them, then when you are around i can fix everything easy for you =] "18:06
Unholykrzie: you want to scam your boss, into getting a tp with android thinking its a native device?18:12
krzietp=?18:13
Unholytouch pro or w/e device you have18:14
krzieahh18:14
krziehe doesnt know what android is, nor does he care18:14
Unholyi see18:14
krzieim setting this up so he can press 1 button, it will connect to the vpn and show him statistics from a page that is outputted by an app i made18:14
krziegrabs info from the db and outputs charts and graphs, basically it answers every question he ever calls and asks18:15
krziewe used to not even be able to answer the questions18:15
Unholyi see18:15
krzienow we look at the page my app makes to answer them18:15
krziesoon he will look at the page himself with this phone18:16
krzie=]18:16
Unholyyour aware battery life is no were as good as in wm right?18:16
Unholyhe gona have to be a salve to the charger18:16
krziewas not aware, but theres no way he would go through the necessary process in WM18:17
krziejust starting openvpn in WM is annoying18:17
krziehe'ld try it 1x, then say screw it and never try it again18:17
krzielol18:17
Unholyheh, just set brightness to lowest if posible and try not to leave wifi on18:19
Unholyyou can expect a good 5-6 hours of battery, with moderate use18:19
krziewhoa18:20
krziewell he will never use wifi18:21
krzienor will it be used as a phone18:21
krziehe doesnt like complex phones18:21
krziehes more of a simple flip phone kinda guy18:22
Unholyi see, then your good i guess18:22
krziewell i hope so18:22
krziewe'll see18:22
krziehes pretty good with slapping his phones on the charger18:23
krziei guess i better get him a car charger too18:23
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hamagcok guys i'm off. see you all next week sometime18:29
Unholycya18:29
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x2ok sooo i went back to WM for one day21:39
x2cant stand it already21:39
x2and am switching back to dual boot autoboot android now21:39
x2:/21:39
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Slashedicehello all22:48
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