Monday, 2010-07-26

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HHW_anyone there?02:37
Unholyyes02:39
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XDA-DimHow to brush into the diamond android04:01
NevroDamn I'm tired. Slept 2 hours tonight. Hate not being able to fall asleep04:06
XDA-DimOmg04:12
NevroOmg what?04:15
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DIAM-100Is there any difference between overclock and not using xdandroid ?04:41
ke-Uhm...04:42
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x2lmao04:52
x2i think he left out a , and an ing but LOL04:52
x2"is the any difference between overclocking and not, using xdandroid"04:52
x2:/04:52
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Nevrox2: I think it looked quite nice to :P Either a typo or a troll at least06:15
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lordantjehi. does anyone know if theres the possibility of working audio on the tp2?06:16
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NevroI like it when people wait a whole minute for an answer before they quit :D06:26
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's fun.06:29
Nevroyeah, start writing an answer, and then I see that they left. Really annoying06:34
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paalsteekbabijoee: i would like to have the rm FSCK*.REC command07:02
paalsteekbut you should pay attention for different boot folders07:02
babijoeedifferent boot folders as in andboot?07:02
paalsteekfor example yes07:03
paalsteekok. my fault07:03
paalsteekthe fsck files always are in the root folder07:03
babijoeehaha yeah07:08
babijoeethey are quite annoying07:08
paalsteekyeah. deleting them on every update...07:11
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NevroWhat does the "Connect to data service when roaming" mean? Will it connect to internett automaticaly so I get a huge bill?07:16
Nevrofrom settings -> wireless & networks -> Mobile networks07:17
TheDeadCPU|BRAVORoaming is if your phone connects to a network that isn't your carriers.07:17
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWhich usually is very expensive.07:17
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babijoeeyeah07:23
babijoeeturn that off if you dont want to get slapped by a huge bill07:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOFree Data no matter what ftw!07:24
babijoee?07:25
babijoeehow come07:25
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI pay like $30 a Month, and get free Data, free sms, free mms, no matter if I'm outside of the country or not lol07:26
babijoee$30 on top of your contract?07:27
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONope, $30 is my contract.07:27
TheDeadCPU|BRAVODesire for $250, and then 12 Months of $30 with free data, sms, and mms.07:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBusiness contracts ftw :D07:28
babijoeenice07:32
NevroTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: Ok, but will it connect to the internett without me asking? And roaming is just that 'm using another carriers network? (I'm a mobile n00b)07:34
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt will connect to Internet without asking.07:35
NevroAnd if I turn it off I can still use the phone as a phone when roaming?07:35
babijoeeyes07:41
babijoeeroaming is for data07:41
babijoeeswitch it off so it only connects to your data07:42
Nevrook. I need a new provider with lower costs:P07:42
babijoeelol07:43
babijoeewhat you paying atm?07:43
Nevroabout 2 USD pr. MB07:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOwow07:44
NevroAnd nothing free07:44
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NevroIt's in norway, so it's an expencive country though07:45
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONevro, Norge E jo ikke dyrt :D07:45
Nevro:P07:45
Nevroikke i det hele tatt:P07:45
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBre skaff deg NetCom FreeText med 300MB data, 300kr måneden.07:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOGratis, sms, mms.07:46
Nevrodyrt å ringe da07:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOHar dein bre evig med data før samme pris :p07:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJoda, men jeg bruker Skype eller hustelefon till og ringe07:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMenne, Roaming er kun vis du drar ut av landet btw :p07:47
Nevrodet gjær ikke jeg:P bruker moobilen. Ser Luda er skikkelig billige, men skeptisk til Ludo:P07:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJaaaa, Er skeptisk på Ludo..07:48
Nevrokanskje jeg skal skifte til tele2 sheriff07:48
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJaaa, er du mye I sverige så er det genialt07:50
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babijoeeenglish please08:05
Nevroer ikke mye i sverige, 2-3 ganger i året bare08:05
Nevrosorry babijoee, we're discussing norwegian mobile carriers08:05
babijoeeah k08:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVObabijoee, Wasn't anything interesting for anyone not Norwegian lol08:06
babijoeeyou'll cry after hearing how cheap mine is :p08:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol08:06
babijoee300mb = $108:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMines the cheapest : D08:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO'Cause I got me Desire almost free with it.08:06
babijoeeTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: but what are the speeds08:07
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOon 3g, I get 5Mbit/s08:07
TheDeadCPU|BRAVODown, and like 100kb/s up lol08:08
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWell. I'm so tired that I'm gonna sleep, even though it's 2pm.08:09
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NaohiroFukudahello08:21
NaohiroFukudaquestion, ok ?08:24
babijoeeyes08:30
NaohiroFukudathanks,08:33
NaohiroFukudaabout 2 weeks ago, I asked about APN bmobile in Japan.08:34
NaohiroFukudaSorry, English is not native for me^^08:34
NaohiroFukudaI know you have done working to add new huge apn list.08:36
NaohiroFukudaBut still not working in this type sim.08:36
NaohiroFukudaSim seems not to be recognized in my touch pro. how can i do solve about it ?08:39
babijoeein android?08:41
NaohiroFukudayes08:41
NaohiroFukudaI can use this sim in WM08:41
babijoeeyeah i've tried adding new ones but to be honest the apn-list is very messy08:41
babijoeemost of the requested APNs were already there08:42
NaohiroFukudaI understand08:42
paalsteekNaohiroFukuda: does phone work?08:42
NaohiroFukudaphone is working08:42
NaohiroFukudaI use only in wi-fi.08:43
NaohiroFukudasorry, i do not use "phone"08:44
NaohiroFukudathis sim is only data-oriented (not for calling)08:44
NaohiroFukudaand monthly pre-paid sim08:44
babijoeehrmmm08:44
babijoeewhat is yours again?08:44
babijoeei'll do a search08:44
babijoeeand see if its there08:45
babijoeeif not i'll update it08:45
NaohiroFukudado i show sim infomation ?08:45
paalsteekNaohiroFukuda: is it a gsm or a cdma phone08:46
NaohiroFukudagsm phone08:46
babijoeeapn infro08:46
babijoeeinformation*08:46
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NaohiroFukudawait08:46
paalsteekdo you have force_cdma=0 in your startup.txt08:47
NaohiroFukudaAPN:dm.jplat.net UserName:bmobile@u300 Password:bmobile mcc 440 mnc 1008:48
NaohiroFukudai think you have done best works about it08:48
NaohiroFukudabut this phone has some problems.08:48
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: android is stupid08:49
NaohiroFukudafor example, this phone (formally HT-01a in Japanese NTT docomo) is sim-locked.08:49
NaohiroFukudaif i can do unlock this phone, it may be fixed (low possibility...)08:51
babijoeestinebd: you around?08:52
NaohiroFukudapaalseek: thanks, i will do it later08:53
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babijoeestinebd: where is the massive apns-conf.xml in rootfs?08:55
babijoeei can see a 9kb one08:56
babijoeeor did you update the apns-conf.xml into froyo source?08:56
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babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: are you able to manually add the APN?08:59
NaohiroFukudaWhen I installed "Android 2.1 Espresso/Sense UI " by TheDealCPU,09:00
babijoeein xdandroid09:01
NaohiroFukudaI caught message "No SIM card found..." when adding new apn.09:01
babijoeehrmmm09:01
babijoeehow about the one above09:01
NaohiroFukudawhen i insert pure ntt docomo sim, i can see apns list and i can use.09:02
babijoeei'm confused09:03
babijoeeare you using 2 sims?09:03
NaohiroFukudayes09:03
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babijoeeone for data and one for calls?09:03
playdo__hello09:03
babijoeehello playdo__09:04
playdo__got some small question about ts calibration09:04
playdo__its not working for me on blackstone09:04
playdo__just jumps to "success" and starts android09:04
babijoeehave you deleted calibration.ts?09:05
playdo__yes09:05
babijoeeso it wont let you calibrate at all?09:05
playdo__ts-calibration file09:05
playdo__or where should be another one?09:05
babijoeeyeah09:05
babijoeethats right09:05
NaohiroFukudadid not because must be another contract to ntt docomo for data-transfer09:05
babijoeehrmm09:06
playdo__i can start it again and give u the exact text09:06
babijoeethe sim provides information so it knows which APN to use09:06
babijoeesure09:06
NaohiroFukudabut i can see apn list for other sim, and see 3g antenna09:07
babijoeeso when you plug in no sim, i assume Android believes theres nothing to use09:07
babijoeeah k09:07
babijoeeokay09:07
babijoeeso its not working on the sim with phone capabilities?09:08
playdo__ah babijoee, it states "open input device:success" but then "/calibration_points directory missing"09:08
NaohiroFukudaWhen use bmobile sim, 3g antenna shows no-connection.09:08
babijoeeplaydo__ could be blackstone user conf not updated09:08
babijoeenot sure09:08
babijoeeokay09:09
playdo__hmm got xdandroid version from 22.07.09:09
babijoeedamn apn has like 4-5 different apns09:09
babijoee-.-09:09
babijoeenot sure which one to change09:09
babijoeehave you ever been able to calibrate screen yet?09:09
playdo__nope09:09
babijoeehrmm i think thats why09:10
playdo__and i'm totally unable to klick anything after booting09:10
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babijoeeblackstone conf not updated to use calibration file09:10
sputnickhi there09:10
babijoeeiirc there were differences with blackstone screen09:10
playdo__but shouldn't there be the white dots for first use calib?09:10
babijoeeyeah09:10
babijoeehave you ever seen those?09:11
playdo__nope, just in the initial booting vid09:11
babijoeeah k09:11
NaohiroFukuda(sorry) sometimes(once in 50 reboot) i can see created apn list, but died in 2-3 seconds.09:11
playdo__maybe its just the missing folder09:11
babijoeei think its not implemented for blackstone but idk09:11
babijoeeask the Android god09:11
playdo__:D09:11
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: do you have adb?09:12
NaohiroFukudanope...09:12
babijoeeplaydo__: you know who that is?09:12
babijoeehrmm09:12
playdo__phh?09:12
babijoeeyeah09:12
phh?09:12
playdo__^^09:12
playdo__hey phh09:12
playdo__gotta problem with ts calib on blackstone09:12
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: can you mount the ext2?09:12
babijoeei'll need you to test which apn you are using09:13
NaohiroFukudayes, but not immediately09:13
babijoeeah k09:13
NaohiroFukudabecause still in my office^^09:13
playdo__phh: at initial bootup, the phone doesnt get calibrated. it just states that "/calibration_points folder is missing"09:13
babijoeewell i'll find out if stinebd will implement the apns-conf.xml into rootfs09:14
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playdo__but actually theres no such folder in the 22.07. release09:14
babijoeeplaydo__: thats refering to system09:14
babijoeenot actual contents on sd09:14
babijoeebut i could be wrong :p09:15
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babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: i'll pm you on xda09:15
NaohiroFukudaIf I unlock my phone, may I solve it ? (I know low possibilities)09:15
babijoeewhen i get my answer09:15
babijoeenah shouldnt09:15
babijoeedoes it work in winmo?09:15
NaohiroFukudayes, but now android. change os now ?09:16
babijoeenah09:16
babijoeedw09:16
babijoeeif it works in wm09:16
babijoeethen it should be fine09:16
babijoeephh: does blackstone have calibration-test setup for it?09:16
phhbabijoee: n09:16
phho09:16
playdo__babijoee: ah ok, so sth is wrong in the conf. do u know how it works atm with the other phones? is there some other folder for calib?09:16
phhit can't09:16
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phhbecause of their stupid keys on touchscreen that hasn't been coded in new driver09:17
babijoeeooo09:17
playdo__dammit09:17
playdo__^^09:17
babijoeewe'll the god has spoken09:17
NaohiroFukudarebooted in winmo, works fine.09:17
playdo__but at bootup, it recognises my on-screen keys Oo09:17
babijoeeblackstone isn't really good for android09:17
babijoee:p09:17
playdo__is see -.-09:17
playdo__damn, gotta get an htc evo09:18
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: can you manually add the APN in android and work?09:18
NaohiroFukudayes,09:18
babijoeeah k09:19
babijoeeso that means it okay09:19
playdo__phh: will there be some progress with blackstone drivers? or should i abandon the idea? ^^09:19
babijoeeand the apns list is outdated09:19
NaohiroFukuda2-3 min, i will be away form my disk09:19
phhplaydo__: that's somewhere on the todolist.09:20
playdo__k thx, i sit and wait :)09:20
phhit's somewhere near the zoom bar of topaz/rhodium09:20
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playdo__the main thing is, thats completed someday ;)09:20
babijoeeor you buy an android device :p09:21
playdo__like i said, if htc evo comes with gsm, i buy it :D09:21
babijoeenah09:21
playdo__why not?09:21
babijoeegalaxy S <309:21
playdo__i love htc <309:22
babijoeeme too09:22
babijoeegalaxy S + vanilla rom = androrgasm09:22
playdo__:D09:22
babijoeetheir interface sucks09:22
playdo__sense?09:22
babijoeeplus they have awesome GPU09:22
babijoeei was using paul desire port but it lacks functionality09:23
babijoeewent back to cm09:23
NaohiroFukudababijee: created "bmobile "apn seems be saved, because when I use apn export tool (APNManager.apk), I can see created bmobile apn in exported xml file.09:23
playdo__nah i just wait till next year when my contract is finished. then i'll have a loom for new phones09:24
playdo__but definitely android <309:24
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda; yeah its weird09:24
babijoeei saw many apns that people requested to be added.09:25
babijoeei dont know why they aren't automatically added when they load android09:25
NaohiroFukudauh09:25
babijoeeyep09:25
NaohiroFukudagive up....09:25
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babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: :p stupidAndroid09:26
babijoeeplaydo: my group = all iphone users09:26
NaohiroFukudain Japan, there are no nice android machine09:26
babijoeereally?09:26
babijoeewhats the latest HTC android phone avaliable?09:26
NaohiroFukudayes...09:27
NaohiroFukudanot ntt docomo09:27
NaohiroFukudahtc desire ships in softbank mobile09:27
NaohiroFukudabut softbank mobile availabe narrow area...09:28
NaohiroFukudaXPERIA X10 ships in ntt docomo but android version is still 1.6...09:28
playdo__babijoee: iphone sucks09:29
playdo__everybody has one09:29
NaohiroFukudaiphone provides only in softbank09:30
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: dont get x1009:30
babijoeewow sounds terrible NaohiroFukuda.09:30
babijoeeno choice09:30
NaohiroFukudaMy friends have x1009:30
babijoeeand here i was thinking japan would have much more variety than au09:30
NaohiroFukudaspecial local condition in japan09:30
babijoeethe fcked up on no multitouch09:31
babijoeeplaydo: i know... but they are too fanboy for me to convert any09:31
playdo__doesn't feel the need for multitouch09:31
babijoeeplaydo: for browsing and games09:31
NaohiroFukudai think so too -about multitouch09:31
playdo__babijoee: yep, say something about their iphones, and u are their enemy :D09:32
babijoeeplaydo__: i always do.. i bag the shiet out of them.. and all they say is apps09:32
NaohiroFukudawoops... do i give up for android in my touch pro ?09:32
playdo__ahhh yeah ure right babijoee -.- for dames it would be great. like to play final fantasy on my blackstone09:32
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: nah not yet.. just manually add it everytime :p09:32
playdo__dammit apps ^^09:32
NaohiroFukudaokay,09:33
babijoeebut i'll find out if stinebd wants to add apns-conf to rootfs09:33
playdo__ah gotta go, closing time ^^ cya09:33
babijoeeotherwise it will be a pain to update09:33
NaohiroFukudaok09:33
babijoeecya09:33
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babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: do you have ebay?09:33
NaohiroFukudathanks, you are great job.09:33
NaohiroFukudano09:34
babijoeeo09:34
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babijoeecan't you buy android phones online and ship to japan?09:34
NaohiroFukudaebay is No services in japan09:34
babijoeeah09:35
NaohiroFukudaunfortunately, it is illegal against the law. ship from other countries.09:35
babijoeetravel overseas and buy one :p09:35
babijoeeNaohiroFukuda: to buy a phone?09:35
NaohiroFukudayes09:35
babijoeehow about gift09:35
babijoeebuy it and tell sender to send as gift09:36
NaohiroFukudaexcept in secret^^09:36
babijoeelol09:36
NaohiroFukudaooooo!09:36
sputnickis there a root method today to avoid wiping waranty for a Nexus One ? ( maybe something like unrevoked )09:38
NaohiroFukudabut it is illegal radio regulation law to use none japanese phone.09:38
NevroNaohiroFukuda: Seriously, illegal to import stuff to Japan? That's actually insane09:38
NaohiroFukudaI think so toooooooo!09:39
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NevroIs it just phones, or other things to?09:40
NaohiroFukudaimport is ok, but cannot use (can use but it is violation in company law)09:40
Nevroshit, that's even more insane:P09:40
NaohiroFukudabut I sometimes import from US or Hong-kong ^^09:41
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Nevro:o you criminal mastermind :P09:41
NevroBut is there a way for the company to find out?09:42
NaohiroFukudawoops ! please overlook09:42
Nevrohehe09:42
MisterYI love stories about companies and criminals. Please do tell more.09:43
MisterY:P09:43
NaohiroFukudaOh I must ride today's last train escape from my office.09:43
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NaohiroFukudaI'll chase more xdandroid and try until useable my sim.09:44
NaohiroFukudathanks, everyone.09:44
NaohiroFukudagood night09:44
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MisterYcya09:45
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MisterYis babijoe alive?09:45
MisterYor anyone else, actually...09:45
MisterYbeen wondering how come I could read my SD card09:46
MisterYwith "[MJG]Rhod.2.2Froyo.072110.rar" build of the system09:46
MisterYbut not with the XDAndroid one(s).09:46
MisterYDon't remember where I got it from, though. :S09:47
NevroWhat do you mean by reading your SD card? Can't you store stuff on your SD card through android? Or browse your SD card?09:49
MisterYmmm, for example09:49
MisterYwhen using that oi file browser,09:49
MisterYthe SD card is shown as being empty09:50
MisterYalso, when scanning for music09:50
Nevrothat's weird. What XDAndroid version are you using? I can do it just fine09:50
MisterYI think it throws some sort of error.09:50
MisterYmm, the latest one, from Sunday09:50
MisterY25/709:50
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MisterYIts weird, I can't remember where I got that other package from09:50
MisterYbut with that (it only contains the system)09:51
MisterYI could see the contents of the SD card09:51
MisterYand the music player scanned and found some music files, no problem.09:51
Nevrook, I have a slightly older system, using 2.109:51
MisterYThe first one I used was09:51
MisterYI think 2.2 beta 2, then rc109:51
MisterYHaven't tried those older ones.09:52
quuhuuhey there. is being worked on a version that can be installed to the rom and not only sd?09:52
MisterYbut look, the name of the package says 2.2 even on the rar file.09:52
MisterYq: why would you flash your rom if not all the features fully work?09:53
quuhuui'm just asking if there's a development.09:54
quuhuuso i guess there is? :-)09:54
MisterYnot sure but there probably will be, in due time09:55
MisterYcurrently there's something like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=62379209:55
MisterYgenydualboot09:55
quuhuui know09:55
MisterYok09:55
MisterYthat's all I know :D09:55
quuhuutested it, but with my diamond the battery drain is a pain09:55
quuhuuand i heard that's because of android being on the sd card09:56
MisterYahh09:56
MisterYthe main pain point for me is the usb connection09:56
MisterYAlso, can't connect directly to my laptop wifi.09:56
quuhuuwhich device?09:57
MisterYdiamond 2, topaz09:57
quuhuuhow long can you work with it until the battery is down?09:58
MisterYHaven't used it for that long. :D09:58
MisterYThere's not much to do without having an address book09:58
MisterYor anything else,09:58
quuhuuok09:58
MisterYwith no access to the Market or the network.09:58
quuhuuyep09:58
MisterYbut the development has progressed a lot since the last time I looked09:59
quuhuuand yes: i would install it even without all features working. :-) i simply hate winmo more and more.09:59
MisterYhehehe10:00
MisterYCookie Home Tab,10:00
MisterYI have to say I just grew to like the latest Sense UI and10:00
MisterYwith HandyShopper, ThumbCal and TouchPro keyboard.10:01
MisterYTouchPal, I stand corrected.10:01
babijoeeMisterY: are they using rootfs from xdandroid10:02
babijoeeor custom one?10:02
MisterYThat's the trouble, I can't say where I got the file from :S10:02
quuhuuyes, that's right. but everytime you have to work with the winmo-base (eg the market) it's terrible10:02
babijoeexda?10:02
MisterYb: probably. Will do a search now...10:02
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Sebastien L.!10:03
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MisterY:D the only post with "[MJG]Rhod.2.2Froyo.072110.rar" in it is my own10:03
sle118hello everyone10:04
sle118I just made a small donation to show my appreciation10:04
sle118I hope everyone else benefiting from this project will do it10:04
sle118more to come when Froyo becomes stable enough with camera support10:04
MisterYIt's kind of a paradox - people will start paying once there's not much need for further development. :)10:05
sle118too many of my favorite apps rely on this and cannot install... trapster is one of them and I am missing it a lot10:05
MisterYbabijoe10:06
MisterYgot it10:06
MisterYI got the files directly from project Android10:06
MisterYhttp://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads10:06
MisterYand these are not the overclocked ones.10:07
MisterYLast download link on the page. "Android v2.2 Froyo: This build is completely stock, directly pulled from the repo, w/ some updated gapps packages. Stock Launcher2 Home and stock theme! WM Start-up Utility w/ Update tool "10:07
MisterYhttp://reefermattness.scepterr.info/%5BMJG%5DRhod.2.2Froyo.072110.rar10:09
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MisterYWeird, considering that " This is the same build as the famous babijoee's build for the TP, thanks to him for teaching me how to cook!  :)  "10:12
sle118you can't blame me for being late on payment... I just joined the pack ;-)10:14
sle118I wish I could help on the kernel efforts, but embedded systems are very different from ERP systems which are familiar to me...10:16
sle118and the learning curve is steep10:16
NevroShit, I'm really looking forward to be done checking in some code so I can get home and go to sleep. Problem is a check-in takes around 45 minuts:(10:20
babijoeethanks sle11810:21
babijoeeMisterY: that xdandroid10:22
MisterY45 minutes?10:22
Nevroyepp, A lot of testing is done before the check-in is accepted10:22
MisterYI must be ignorant. What is the difference?10:23
MisterYsorry ,this last one was for babijoe10:23
sle118quick question for anyone having a response.  Where can I launch Google Talk in 2.1 (June 21st build)? I get messages when someone writes to me, but can't initiate communication from within contacts...10:23
babijoeeMisterY: well whatever he posts that different to mine10:23
babijoeesle118: haven't tried10:24
MisterYheck, I thought people were concentrating efforts,10:24
babijoeehrmmm10:24
MisterYnot spreading them around. :S10:24
babijoeeMisterY: he's on rhodium10:24
babijoeeso hes welcome to do so10:24
babijoeeplus Android is opensource10:24
babijoeei'm sure if he discovers anything he'll let us know :p10:24
MisterY:)10:24
MisterYwell, I'm just sayin'10:24
babijoeelol10:25
MisterYwhatever magic he did seems to see my sd card :P10:25
babijoeesle118: i'll try now to see if that happens10:25
sle118sure10:25
sle118thx10:25
MisterYok, night all, its getting a bit late10:25
babijoeewanna add me on gtalk :p10:25
MisterYkudos for great work10:25
babijoeeMisterY: should be the same10:26
babijoeeunless his config is diff10:26
babijoeesle118: gtalk account?10:26
sle118babijoee:when launching the google chat from contacts, nothing happens10:26
sle118yes10:26
babijoeeooo10:27
sle118no error nothing10:27
MisterYthat's what I thought but apparently not :) Will play a bit more next weekend. Cheerio10:27
babijoeecan you talk to them in actual gtalk app?10:27
sle118yes10:27
babijoeeooo10:27
sle118I get messages on the phone sometimes10:27
sle118when talking on my pc with google chat in gmail.com10:27
babijoeeso it doesn't work in contacts10:27
sle118I can respond10:27
sle118correct10:27
babijoee:p10:28
sle118but messages are not always routed there10:28
babijoeei see10:28
sle118not sure when gtalk is launched10:28
sle118and becomes aware10:28
babijoeewe'll lets see if i can reproduce it10:28
sle118anyone installed Skype on the Diamond?10:31
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babijoeeblast.. i'm using old kernel -.-10:33
sputnickcan I root my Nexus One and avoid to wipe waranty ? ( maybe something like unrevoked, but I don't find n1 in devices supported list )10:34
babijoeesputnick,10:35
babijoeenot the best place to ask10:35
babijoeebut if you rooted10:35
babijoeethen i think you might have lost your warranty just there10:35
sputnickwhat is the recommended place to ask ?10:35
babijoeexda-developers > nexus one > QA section10:36
sputnick#android-root is dead10:36
sle118for the log: using a 1800 mah battery on the Touch Diamond P3051. This makes hops between chargers last longer ;-)10:36
babijoeesle118: yeah i can see what you're talking about10:36
sle118so how does one start gtalk?10:37
babijoeeopen gtalk app10:37
babijoee:p10:37
sle118lol10:38
babijoeehrmmm10:38
sle118I don't see it10:38
babijoeedl it10:38
sle118from market?10:38
babijoeeyeah10:38
babijoeesle118: its already bundled10:39
babijoeei dont know how you cant see it10:39
babijoeeits called talk10:39
sle118it's bundled in 2.1?10:40
sle118or in a package on the market?10:41
sle118sorry for being so noob10:41
phhin 2.110:44
babijoeeboth 2.1 and 2.210:45
sle118dang10:45
sle118can't see it in the app drawer10:45
babijoeedo you see it?10:45
babijoee=/10:45
babijoeetry 2.2 sle118 much better than eclair now10:45
phhit's called messaing or something like that10:45
phhit has kind of a weird name10:46
sle1182.2 is better than eclair?10:47
babijoeesle118: try it for yourself10:47
babijoeebesides no one works on 2.1 anymore10:47
sle118lol10:48
sle118I was told by TheDeadCPU|BRAVO on friday to stick with 2.1 because this was my main OS10:48
babijoee-.-10:48
babijoeeTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: thinks desire > n110:48
babijoee:p10:48
sle118ok10:48
babijoeedoesn't hurt to try10:48
babijoeei guess10:48
sle118so on P3051 2.2 is stable enough?10:49
sle118how do I make the jump?10:49
sle118do I have to format with ext2 or can I just copy rootfs and other stuff to my internal storage?10:49
babijoeesle118: are you a regular user of xda-developers?10:50
babijoeehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71169210:50
sle118I am10:50
babijoeedownload the latest bundle, system update, rootfs, zimage10:51
babijoeeinitrd10:52
sle118the wiki still lists 20100621 as the latest version10:53
sle118Latest Release: Version 2010062110:54
sle118(from wiki page)10:54
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babijoeesle118: its not updated10:55
sle118IC10:56
sle118I'll do my homework10:56
sle118and read the post10:56
sle118Hoping for camera one day10:56
babijoeeme too11:02
babijoeebzo is working on it11:02
sle118when camera is ready, I can ditch winmo ;-)11:04
sle118for now I still need it for Trapsert11:04
sle118oups11:04
sle118trapster11:04
stinebd2.2 is not an official release yet11:06
sle118do I loose installed applications/data going from 20100621 to current 2.2?11:07
stinebdyou'll most likely find that market won't work, so probably yes11:08
stinebdquite a lot changed from 2.1 to 2.2, in terms of the build procedure11:08
babijoeestinebd: did you include the apns-conf.xml into froyo source or rootfs?11:10
sle118market does not work in 2.2?11:11
babijoeesle118: it does11:12
sle118FYI I manually configured my Telus APN in 2.111:12
sle118data was working fine11:12
babijoeeyeah11:13
stinebdbabijoee: it's in the system image. device/xdandroid/msm/apns-conf.xml11:13
sle118so do I delete my data.img before updating the rootfs, system ext2?11:13
babijoeeah k11:13
babijoeesle118: back it up incase you want to go back to 2.111:14
sle118babijoee:your instructions in the 2.2 post on xda-dev says11:14
sle118Upgrading from 2.1 Update to latest rootfs Download 2.2 system.ext2 You may need new data.img run haret.11:14
sle118anything else?11:14
babijoeeah k11:14
babijoeezimage/module/initrd11:15
sle118will backup, as usual (I probably have 10 backups sitting in many different places11:15
babijoeestinebd: do you want to add the xdandroid boot-animation?11:15
babijoeewould be nice to have it in there by default :p11:16
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Aizyhi11:19
stinebdnot if it's lame11:19
Aizysomeone help11:19
stinebdi've actually never seen the xdandroid bootanim11:19
Aizyi installed a dual boot xandroid.11:19
Aizythe android os seems to respond only to hard keys!11:20
Aizyis it normal.. is there no softkey options?11:20
babijoeestinebd: really?11:22
babijoeestinebd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p70HU_Mq5F0 @ 0.5811:23
babijoeeits pretty nice imo11:23
stinebdwho made it?11:25
babijoeelugiber11:26
babijoeeits been in the builds for quite some time :p11:26
stinebdbut i don't use them11:26
babijoeeits just a boot-animation11:26
sle118trying to update from 2.1 to 2.1...11:26
stinebdi spend too much time getting the base image just working11:26
stinebdlately, i haven't even had the same data.img for longer than like 2 days11:27
sle118I am confused.  I downloaded all recommended packages from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6967721&mode=linear#post696772111:27
stinebdi love that animation11:27
sle118I have at lease 3 zImage11:27
stinebdthat's so going into the device tree11:27
sle118and 2 rootfs11:28
babijoeeyes :D11:28
sle118not sure which one to keep, and which one to rename11:28
paalsteekTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: your video is not avaible here as it contains content owned by Sony Music11:28
babijoeesle118: 2.1 isnt further supported11:28
sle118downloaded htc-msm-linux-20100720_171629-package.tar, linux-msm.201007201732.tar, rootfs-20100723-1b819a7, XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V2, XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.25.07.10.system.ext211:29
babijoeeyep11:29
sle118there are 3 zimage and 2 rootfs in there11:29
stinebdoh, those are androids with rocket packs haha11:29
sle118not sure which ones to keep11:29
babijoeeyeah11:29
stinebdawesome11:29
babijoeei've got some others11:29
babijoeebut that one was the best11:29
babijoeeonly a shame hw3d makes it stutter though11:30
stinebdyeah, i considered making bootanim run in software11:30
stinebdbut it's a good test for hw3d11:30
babijoeeooo11:30
stinebdif it's choppy you know hw3d is working11:30
babijoeewe can change it11:30
babijoee?11:30
stinebdwe have the source code, we can change anything11:31
babijoee>:D11:31
stinebdbut like i said, we use it as a diagnostic at the moment11:31
babijoeehow would i go about changing it11:32
stinebdwell, i would11:32
stinebdit's in frameworks/base/cmds/bootanimation11:33
babijoeety11:33
babijoeeits much better smoother11:35
babijoee:)11:35
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stinebdxdandroid: seen wistilt212:01
xdandroidstinebd: wistilt2 was last seen in #xdandroid 3 days, 18 hours, 3 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <WisTilt2> ok that's where im going to leave the max volume.  now im off for a bit to get the volume controls link to these changes.  i'll let you know when i put up another test file.12:01
stinebdwonder if we'll ever get a patch12:02
phhwho knows12:03
stinebdxdandroid: seen reefermattness12:13
xdandroidstinebd: reefermattness was last seen in #xdandroid 1 day, 19 hours, 26 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Reefermattness> joee was it a compile bug?12:13
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MrObviousSo yeah the whole 3G switching thing don't work for me.12:57
MrObviousIt's grayed out.12:57
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stinebdwe know. you keep reporting it. as do others on the forum.13:01
stinebdit took us 2 months just to add the android apn back, do you think we'll fix that any time soon? ;)13:02
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stinebdbabijoee: xdandroid bootanim pushed13:09
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MrObviousstinebd: Okay just reporting it.13:15
MrObviousOr making sure it was known.13:15
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Reefermattnessmorning guys13:23
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Reefermattnesscan someone direct me to instructions for submitting a kernel patch?   :)13:25
sle118hi13:26
sle118just wondering13:27
sle118I installed Froyo on my Diamond 500 (CDMA)13:27
sle118after formatting the internal storage with HP USB Format tool13:27
sle118OI File Manager sees the internal storage (as SD)13:27
sle118but I cant select ringtone (Only silent available)13:28
sle118anything I can use in Vista to fix partition?13:28
ReefermattnessBueler....  :P13:29
Reefermattnessnot sure sle13:29
Reefermattnesssorry :(13:30
Reefermattnessstinebd you around bud?13:32
stinebdReefermattness: yes13:32
stinebdhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Submitting_Patches13:32
Reefermattnessoh man i thought that was for just the system not the kernel sorry  :P13:35
stinebdwell they're general basic git instructions13:36
stinebdso they work for the kernel too13:36
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Unholyhey stinebd you remeber last time i was chmoding my system folder and messing up permissions and what not, well today i managed to get to its default permissions, then i whent and copyed the system folder to a ext2 img, but now kernel complains it cannot access sertain proccess in system/lib, now i know how to fix this but it will again mess up the default permission on the system img, thus screwing up root access, =/ i know this is a mouth full13:40
stinebdwhen you copy, you need to do it as root and use cp -a13:41
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Unholyi use this command genext2fs -d ./system -b xxxx --a system.ext213:43
stinebdoh13:43
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messtinebd: on a standard compile of android, the term app is built and shows up in the manage apps->all apps tab, but does not run or show in the apps launcher13:44
stinebdi don't think --a does anything13:44
messorry s/android/xdandroid/13:44
Unholyshould i try it without it?13:44
stinebdUnholy: it won't make any difference13:45
stinebdmes: noted13:45
stinebdmes: terminal emulator is available in dev tools13:45
mesthe one from market works just not the compiled on.13:46
mesoh, is that right?13:46
stinebdi'm not sure there's a way to put it in the launcher without forking the repository13:46
stinebdmaybe with an overlay... i'll look into it13:46
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mesthat's OK, it seems to work just fine, just hidden from first glance13:47
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mesdo you know where the possible keychars are in android, I would really like to add IO redirects to the physical keyboard13:53
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stinebdmes: frameworks/base/include/ui/KeycodeLabels.h - you'll notice there are none for those keys. you'll need to edit .kcm files and build .kcm.bin files from them to do what you want to do13:55
mesThank you, that saves a lot of time, I think they are in the soft keyboard?13:57
stinebdyeah, in SYM ALT13:57
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Unholystinebd what if i just chmod the lib folder? will that compromise the permissions?14:15
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stinebdUnholy: probably15:15
Unholyi see15:17
Unholythis sucks because if do chmod on the hole system folder android boots just fine, but i get noroot access15:17
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Unholyoh btw stinebd its not the bin folder permissions, the problem is the libs im switching from /system/lib/, its complaning they dont exist even do they are there, they are just from another rom, so acording to this if i replace them back with the original ones adroid should boot15:25
stinebdwe have our first xdandroid build id15:28
stinebdFRX00B15:28
stinebdxdandroid 2.2 rc215:28
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Unholy=)15:37
UnholyW/libdbus ( 1229): Failed to start message bus: Failed to open "/etc/dbus.conf": Permission denied15:41
stinebdi thought you were getting some /system/lib error15:43
Unholyi was, had to replace the libs with the ones form the original rom15:45
Unholyfrom*15:45
Unholynow im getting that error15:45
stinebdi wish i knew the exact steps you've taken to get to where you are15:46
stinebdbecause what you do and what you describe yourself as having done are two different things15:46
stinebdso first off you start with some unmodified system image. ext2 or sqsh?15:47
Unholysqsh15:47
Unholyi unsquash it15:48
stinebdok so then you unsquash that, presumably as root to preserve all the permissions and ownership?15:48
Unholyi do it in windows? would that matter15:48
stinebd:/15:48
stinebdhow on earth do you do it in windows?15:49
stinebdcrap15:49
stinebdi gotta go15:49
stinebdsorry :(15:49
Unholynp15:49
Unholyil do in uuntu now15:49
Unholysee how it goes15:49
stinebdi'd do all this in a linux vm if possible15:49
Unholyubuntu*15:49
stinebdand whenever you copy something from image a to image b, use cp -a, which will preserve permissions and ownership as well15:49
Unholyyes i will15:49
Unholyok15:50
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sle118can I ask a noob question regarding data connection?16:13
sle118I just updated from 2.1 to 2.216:13
sle118nice work guys16:13
sle118now...16:13
sle118I wonder why I see E in data connection instead of 3G like in 2.116:14
sle118what's the difference?16:14
sle118anyone?16:16
sle118does it mean EVDO?16:19
sle118hum16:20
sle118the data connection is now 3G... and sometimes it's "E"16:21
sle118Mode 'E' seemed very slow16:21
Unholymode E is edge ofcouse it will be slow16:22
sle118I see16:23
sle118any reason why Wifi tethering is not bundled in our builds?16:23
Unholyi recommend reading the 2.2 release thread16:25
x2lol16:29
sle118ok16:50
sle118is it possible to just launch the app found here http://southcape.org/2010/03/18/xdandroid-eclair-wifi-tethering/16:51
sle118or still need to install kernel and rootfs?16:51
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bjgebghello is xdandriod still working on the cdma andriod build17:54
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WisTilt2Reefer im here.  you at the terminal?19:47
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babijoeesle118: its reporting the correct GPRS connection you have20:22
babijoeein eclair we didnt have those so it would always only show a 3g symbol20:22
babijoeeWisTilt2: i believe he is asleep20:23
Unholyhey babijoee20:23
babijoeehi Unholy20:24
babijoeei see you are still troubleshooting :p20:24
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babijoeepun intended20:24
babijoee;)20:24
Unholyya for the damn root access XD, im just goin to keep theming the rom and forget about it20:25
Unholyand if your not busy i can pass you a link to my unfinished rom, so you can give it a go20:26
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babijoeesure20:36
babijoeei have to leave in 2 hours20:36
babijoeeso dont be too long :p20:36
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Unholyi hate my isp =)20:44
babijoee:p20:45
Unholyi pmed you babijoee20:46
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babijoeei know20:47
UnholyXD20:47
electrikjesusUnholy: I would like to test out your ROM. Only if you feel like passing it to someone who is still learning.20:47
Unholyits just a donut themed rom very unfinished, id rather pass it on to someone i know sorry20:51
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electrikjesusWooHoo, Finally got an IRC Client that works on Win7 :)21:17
electrikjesusDoes Ubuntu come stock with an IRC client?21:18
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes.21:20
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's buildt into Empathy21:20
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut I use xChat on Ubuntu and Win721:21
electrikjesusI couldn't get it to start on x6421:21
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI use it on x64.21:21
electrikjesusFound TurboIRC. Kinda simple, but it works21:21
TheDeadCPU|BRAVORun xChat as admin. That should work21:22
Unholyi use icechat on windows21:22
electrikjesusI have ubuntu running under VMware's Unity right now, so it really doesn't matter. Just didn't know.21:22
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO:p21:23
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aaasxhello21:25
aaasxketi21:25
aaasx有人在å—21:26
aaasx说è¯æ›¹21:26
aaasxè‰21:26
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sdfsdfsXDANdroid??21:30
Unholyyes this is the channel of xdandroid21:31
sdfsdfsxdandroid for rom?21:34
sdfsdfsxdandroid when the ROM-based21:36
Unholywhat?21:39
sdfsdfsROM21:46
sdfsdfsxdandroid-ROM21:46
sdfsdfsWhen there xdandroid ROM21:47
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WisTilt2Hey there Reefermattness you still sleeping?23:50
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