Saturday, 2010-07-03

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xdandroid	Donation received! Thanks, Bryan Stine (stinebd on XDA), who says: One last test	00:28
Unholy	yo stinebd were are the modules aster i compile them?	00:32
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Yohow	Does everybody work on froyo now and just skip working on Eclair? :D	02:08
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bryson	hi guys!	02:33
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bryson	is there any fix for TD2 high battery drain?	02:46
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bryson	hello guys?	02:46
CazH	hi	02:46
bryson	hi!	02:46
CazH	battery drain is normal and the only thing you can do about is to turn off you phone :P	02:46
bryson	that hurts! :(	02:47
bryson	i wonder when will there be any chance of a stable android for the TD2?	02:47
CazH	yeah tell me about it, I have a diamond which only has a small 900mAh battery :P	02:47
CazH	Well, it's not all that stable right now, but it's getting better and better :)	02:48
bryson	hope so. :/	02:48
bryson	looking forward to the day which the android is stable for everyday's uuse	02:48
bryson	:)	02:48
CazH	well some claim it is :) People are using it for everyday use, but the battery problem do require you too work around it a bit (eg extra batteries)	02:49
CazH	:)	02:49
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babijoee	hello world	03:22
Unholy	babijoee	03:24
Unholy	adter i compile modules, were do they get compiled too?	03:25
Unholy	i cant find them	03:25
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Unholy	babijoee you here?	03:28
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phh	Unholy: search on glemsom's page	03:35
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Unholy	ok	03:37
Unholy	phh: i dont see anything on glemsom auto buildsite pointing me to were the modules are	03:39
Unholy	i know i compiled them i just dont know were they get copied too	03:39
phh	ah.	03:40
phh	modules-xxxxx.tgz ?	03:40
Unholy	yup	03:40
phh	bah	03:40
phh	modules-xxxx.tgz.	03:40
Unholy	i did this to build them export PATH=$PATH:/home/unholy/kernel/arm-2010q1/bin/ ; make modules ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- zImage	03:40
phh	this doesn't include wifi nor ramzswap you know ?	03:41
Unholy	is that right?	03:41
Unholy	i though wifi was in them?	03:41
phh	it's in modules	03:41
phh	but not kernel modules	03:41
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Unholy	ok how do i build wifi modules 0o	03:42
Unholy	also is this right to enable hw3d on donut make ARCH=arm CONFIG_MSM_HW3D_DONUT=y htc_msm_android_defconfig	03:42
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phh	no	03:43
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phh	you must copy the defconfig and then change the option in make menuconfig	03:43
Unholy	hmm ok can i edit the config manually then?	03:43
phh	ARCH=arm make menuconfig	03:44
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CazH	phh: did you take out the usbnet module from the kernel?	03:45
phh	CazH: no, but it's no longer activated by default	03:46
phh	echo 6 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch	03:46
phh	to activate it	03:46
CazH	nice thank you :)	03:46
CazH	Playing around with rhobuntu, and couldn't figure out why usbnet wasn't working :P	03:46
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babijoee	opps	03:48
babijoee	sorry got distracted	03:48
Unholy	phh this first? cp /home/unholy/kernel/linux-msm/arch/arm/configs/htc_msm_android_defconfig .config	03:48
Unholy	and then this ARCH=arm make menuconfig	03:49
phh	yes	03:49
CazH	hi babijoee	03:49
babijoee	hi CazH	03:50
babijoee	phh: i was wondering if you could help me	03:51
Unholy	phh im on the kernel meno now what?	03:51
babijoee	i want to setup a git for apns.xml	03:51
phh	babijoee: put it in rootfs ?	03:51
phh	Unholy: ?	03:51
Unholy	phh: im in linux kernel dos menu like	03:52
Unholy	configuration bla blah	03:52
phh	system settings => hardware 3D stuff => donut	03:53
babijoee	phh: guess so	03:53
Unholy	ok thx	03:53
Unholy	ok its done phh	03:54
Unholy	anything else i have to do?	03:54
CazH	babijoee: might I suggest you steal cyanogen's apns.xml before starting doing the updating?	03:54
babijoee	CazH: i do	03:56
babijoee	i'm adding on and modifying it	03:56
babijoee	its what i've been using since 2.1	03:56
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CazH	babijoee: I think something wen't wrong when we started 2.2... Because I think my apn was in the last 2.1 but not in 2.2 ?	03:56
CazH	wait	03:57
Unholy	phh what do i do now to get wifi on donut? sync compt wireless repo and what else	03:57
phh	don't know	03:57
CazH	You put the apns.xml in after compiling a system.img right? that would explain it :)	03:57
babijoee	yeah	03:57
babijoee	i dont touch source	03:57
babijoee	:p	03:57
babijoee	dont want to break it :p	03:57
CazH	babijoee: shame :P	03:57
CazH	maybe updating apns wouldn't be so bad? ;)	03:58
babijoee	CazH: yeah well	03:58
babijoee	i'm updating it	03:58
CazH	phh: do you know how I turn my screen back on in rhobuntu? :)	03:59
phh	CazH: the opposite way you turned it off ? :p	03:59
CazH	phh yeah first thing i tried :P	04:00
phh	on my tilt2 with default keymap it's fn + closing parenthesis	04:00
CazH	power button turned it off but not on	04:00
CazH	hmm, got a diamond here no hw keyboard :S	04:00
phh	haha.	04:00
CazH	any guess?	04:00
phh	no	04:00
phh	the led is orange ?*	04:00
babijoee	i think i might disable JIT	04:00
CazH	nope	04:00
CazH	no lights any where	04:01
phh	babijoee: I thought it's not activated ... ?	04:01
babijoee	phh: it is	04:01
phh	CazH: haha.	04:01
phh	CazH: it's frozen	04:01
babijoee	stinebd: made it default	04:01
CazH	phh: ssh is still running? :S	04:01
phh	CazH: ah.	04:01
phh	CazH: echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness	04:01
babijoee	its causing too many reboots	04:01
phh	babijoee: logcat ?	04:02
CazH	phh: nope second thing i tried	04:02
Unholy	jit works fine on my raph	04:02
CazH	turned up the backlight allright but no image	04:02
phh	echo on > /sys/power/state	04:02
babijoee	Unholy: sometimes i can't even use it :p	04:02
babijoee	too many hangs	04:02
CazH	phh: still nothing :S	04:03
phh	CazH: reboot ? :p	04:03
CazH	okay, thanks for the help :P	04:03
babijoee	CazH: you recon i have to rebuild the dalvik?	04:03
CazH	crappy phone :P	04:03
CazH	babijoee: when disabling jit? yes	04:03
babijoee	ah k	04:03
CazH	phh: reboot worked :P in that sense I could reboot in to winmo, awesome :D	04:05
Unholy	can i use 1 cross compiler for mutliple sources?	04:06
CazH	Unholy: yes	04:07
Unholy	so i can just export its path and use the make command with what ever i want?	04:07
phh	the make command works only for the kernel	04:08
Unholy	i know im just saying, can i do the export command and then do the make command to build wifi modules, i opend up build.sh and saw a make command im guessing thats wha ti need to use to build it	04:10
Unholy	gah im gonn to sleep 4:12 am here	04:12
Unholy	gn guys	04:12
Unholy	going*	04:12
Unholy	and thx for the help	04:13
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babijoee	CazH: i'm going to do it.... i'm going to edit the source	04:22
babijoee	phh: i didn't bother to logcat...	04:23
babijoee	i'm just going to test it :p	04:23
phh	babijoee: how do you know it's JIT then ?	04:25
babijoee	phh: i dont	04:28
phh	.	04:28
babijoee	i'm reading that JIT takes up abit of memory	04:28
babijoee	thats probally causing the sluggish performance	04:29
phh	we have more available memory than many android devices ....	04:29
babijoee	true but it may not be enough	04:29
babijoee	anyways i'm building one without jit to see how it performs	04:30
thedicemaster	i don't see much more RAM usage than previous versions	04:31
babijoee	free avaliable ram is same?	04:31
thedicemaster	32MB free, which is pretty much what it always is for me.	04:32
babijoee	thedicemaster: you have diamond?	04:32
thedicemaster	yes	04:32
babijoee	okay	04:32
thedicemaster	oh, and that is with some stuff still semi-open on the background(like opera browser)	04:32
babijoee	okay	04:33
babijoee	well stinebd has just pushed some new stuff which should properly init wifi	04:33
babijoee	and some others	04:33
babijoee	so i'll build another package	04:34
babijoee	bbl	04:34
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thedicemaster	am i right in thinking that the diamond only has 5 buttons on the front(up, down, left, right, center)?	04:36
phh	yup	04:37
phh	you mean hardware button I guess	04:37
thedicemaster	something i'd never notice in WM since it just works there, but especially when the phone is running a bit hot capacitive becomes somewhat unresponsive.	04:37
thedicemaster	so the buttons sometimes do nothing, or back is registered as hangup. stuff like that.	04:38
phh	perhaps we should take a look at how wimo does that.	04:38
thedicemaster	i think some raph users have a similar problem, they say something about those buttons going crazy after having android in use for a long period of time?	04:39
CazH	You know, not that I don't belive you, but I just had to look at the hardware to confirmed that there are only 5 buttons on the pcb :P	04:40
phh	lol	04:40
thedicemaster	does mean there's a small chance someone might be able to make the D-pad more functional.	04:41
phh	just need someone to take a look at the asm :p	04:41
CazH	asm is easy :P	04:41
thedicemaster	right now there's the problem that the left/right "buttons" are too small(in android and in WM) so 80% of the time i hit stuff like dial instead of left.	04:41
CazH	not so many libs and what not to think about :P	04:42
phh	CazH: there you go	04:42
phh	thedicemaster: we can change that	04:42
phh	the code is quite explicit about it	04:42
phh	board-htcraphael-navi.c	04:42
CazH	phh: I'm a eletronics guy not a programmer	04:42
phh	around line 310	04:42
thedicemaster	ah wait.	04:43
CazH	I have done a little asm programming but damn... Never again :P	04:43
thedicemaster	seems left/right are already bigger in android now.	04:43
thedicemaster	never bothered using them because they used to be too unreliable, but in froyo it seems to work fine.	04:44
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babijoee	CazH: you there?	05:13
CazH	yeah?	05:13
babijoee	you know which file controls what is included for apps	05:14
CazH	not really, made a hack which prevents apps from being include	05:14
babijoee	yeah	05:15
babijoee	how did you do that	05:15
CazH	yeah	05:15
CazH	in packages/apps/Your_App/Android.mk	05:15
CazH	comment out: include $(BUILD_PACKAGE) and include $(call all-makefiles-under,$(LOCAL_PATH))	05:16
CazH	not all packages have that second line	05:16
CazH	that seems to do the job :)	05:16
babijoee	cool thanks	05:17
CazH	yw	05:19
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oscar	I had get XDAndroid source ,and make -j4, get a error: build/core/product_config.mk:190: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/htc/passion/full_passion.mk]]: "device/common/gps/gps_us_supl.mk" does not exist	06:59
oscar	buildspec.mk :TARGET_PRODUCT := xdandroid_msm_us TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT := eng TARGET_BUILD_TYPE := release	07:00
babijoee	oscar: build as root	07:01
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oscar	thx	07:02
oscar	I had builded as root ,but the error still exist	07:03
oscar	build/core/product_config.mk:190: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/htc/passion/full_passion.mk]]: "device/common/gps/gps_us_supl.mk" does not exist。	07:04
oscar	I had checked the device directory , there only has a htc subdirectory,not has common directory	07:07
CazH	oscar: which branch did you checkout?	07:12
oscar	the AOSP source, use repo init -u git://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/manifest.git	07:16
CazH	then you checkout the master branch. Which is broken	07:24
CazH	you need to do repo init -u git://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/manifest.git-b froyo or repo init -u git://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/manifest.git -b eclair	07:24
CazH	if you are following the guide on xdandroid.com it also says you should use the -b eclair because master don't always work ;)	07:25
oscar	ok,thanks lot	07:25
CazH	you welcome :)	07:26
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Tasty_boy_XDA	hey	08:11
Tasty_boy_XDA	mornin	08:11
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Tasty_boy_XDA	someone alive??	08:21
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RaphB	hi	08:25
RaphB	anybody on?	08:26
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phh	no	08:27
CazH	lol̈́	08:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	hey	08:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	:D	08:28
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Tasty_boy_XDA	whats up	08:29
RaphB	hi	08:29
Tasty_boy_XDA	hello RaphB	08:30
RaphB	can you help me with the setup of xandroid?	08:30
RaphB	I installed it but could not provision my network provider	08:31
RaphB	do you have any clue of what i missed?	08:31
Tasty_boy_XDA	hum	08:31
Tasty_boy_XDA	weird	08:31
Tasty_boy_XDA	mine get it by itself	08:31
RaphB	that was my understanding	08:32
Tasty_boy_XDA	i think that	08:32
Tasty_boy_XDA	u should untick PIN2 in WinMo	08:32
RaphB	but for some reason my signal is dead and i cannot provision it	08:32
Tasty_boy_XDA	cause Android cant get signal with PIN yet	08:33
Tasty_boy_XDA	try to untick PIN2	08:33
Tasty_boy_XDA	or some PIN	08:33
Tasty_boy_XDA	and then boot again	08:33
RaphB	i do not have any PIN setup on WM	08:33
oscar	I want to build a self linux kernel and modules , is there a howto?	08:34
Tasty_boy_XDA	ouch RaphB	08:35
Tasty_boy_XDA	so weird	08:35
Tasty_boy_XDA	try to config something	08:35
RaphB	I start it without any problem but no signal everything works but for the provisioning whereas i cannot find a carrier and the automatic detection hang up	08:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	are u using blackstone?	08:37
RaphB	no, Topaz	08:37
RaphB	or actually a PURE from ATT	08:37
Tasty_boy_XDA	there's a HOUSE icon in it?	08:38
RaphB	yes	08:38
Tasty_boy_XDA	try to tap there	08:39
RaphB	sorry no	08:39
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RaphB	but the bacxk button allows me out	08:39
Tasty_boy_XDA	but the House icon allow to config the device	08:39
RaphB	i can navigate to the home screen or any other screen	08:40
Tasty_boy_XDA	i want that you go to Settings	08:40
Tasty_boy_XDA	and then you need change something	08:40
RaphB	i am in setting	08:40
Tasty_boy_XDA	i know what is happenning	08:40
RaphB	great	08:41
RaphB	tell me... lol	08:41
Tasty_boy_XDA	let me get my blackstonee	08:41
Tasty_boy_XDA	ok	08:42
Tasty_boy_XDA	here we go	08:42
Tasty_boy_XDA	you should see some screen	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	Networks	08:44
RaphB	I have that	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	and should search for networks in your area	08:44
RaphB	mobile network	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	then the phone will search	08:44
RaphB	the network operators is where i get stuck	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	and give you some results	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	then	08:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	you should tick: use 2G	08:44
RaphB	the system keep searching	08:45
RaphB	ok let me try that	08:45
RaphB	but I need to reboot to stop the continuous search	08:45
Tasty_boy_XDA	nope	08:45
Tasty_boy_XDA	it will search	08:46
Tasty_boy_XDA	and then will show you results	08:46
RaphB	let me ask you a question, did you load android on a folder or on the root of the SD?	08:46
Tasty_boy_XDA	or not	08:46
Tasty_boy_XDA	root of course	08:46
Tasty_boy_XDA	i think that it's correct in root	08:46
RaphB	you did not setup a folder to install it from first?	08:47
Tasty_boy_XDA	nope	08:47
Tasty_boy_XDA	the correct is in root	08:47
Tasty_boy_XDA	did you install with a cab?	08:47
RaphB	no, I followed the http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide page	08:48
RaphB	and copied everything on the androot folder to launch the instalation	08:49
RaphB	with Haret	08:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	so	08:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	with device are u using?	08:50
Tasty_boy_XDA	gonna solve it	08:50
RaphB	I did not copied it in the root directory to start with but in the androot folder...	08:50
RaphB	Can this be an issue?	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	i know how to solve	08:51
RaphB	Pure Or TOPAZ)	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	ok	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	so	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	format ur SD	08:51
RaphB	ok	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	backup things	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	u need	08:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	then format	08:51
RaphB	ok	08:52
RaphB	and then?	08:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	then u will download a cab	08:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	simple	08:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	and select ur device	08:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	and it will works	08:52
RaphB	ok where do i get the cab?	08:52
RaphB	easier	08:53
Tasty_boy_XDA	http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SKZO6V5X	08:53
Tasty_boy_XDA	much easier	08:53
Tasty_boy_XDA	thats how i did yester	08:53
RaphB	ok, i'll try that method	08:54
RaphB	what provider do you have?	08:54
Tasty_boy_XDA	Claro	08:55
Tasty_boy_XDA	im from Brazil :D	08:55
RaphB	lol... sorry can talk portugese	08:56
RaphB	I am french...	08:56
Tasty_boy_XDA	can?	08:56
RaphB	no from france	08:57
Tasty_boy_XDA	oh	08:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	u wrote that u can	08:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	08:58
RaphB	lol	08:59
RaphB	meant I cannot...	08:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	ok, understood	08:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	08:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	which town u live?	08:59
RaphB	sticky fingers	08:59
RaphB	I live in Miami (USA)	09:00
RaphB	Still early	09:00
RaphB	are we on the same time zone	09:00
Tasty_boy_XDA	here is 10:00 am	09:00
RaphB	9 here	09:00
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	09:01
Tasty_boy_XDA	we had all day to make ur Android works	09:01
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	09:01
RaphB	good, let me get on it (the setup and formating), I'll log back in an hour if your still there, I have to take care of the kids, they just woke up	09:04
RaphB	thank you for your help so far...	09:04
Tasty_boy_XDA	ok dude	09:05
Tasty_boy_XDA	just format	09:05
Tasty_boy_XDA	and then put that cab in it	09:05
Tasty_boy_XDA	install cab	09:05
Tasty_boy_XDA	and the wizard will guide u	09:05
Tasty_boy_XDA	select fuze	09:06
Tasty_boy_XDA	and it will boot	09:06
Tasty_boy_XDA	Android	09:06
RaphB	ok i ll try it after breakfast and will log back on..	09:12
RaphB	?	09:13
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Tasty_boy_XDA	CazH	09:27
Tasty_boy_XDA	hey dude	09:27
Tasty_boy_XDA	are u there?	09:27
CazH	yes?	09:27
Tasty_boy_XDA	can you answer calls in ur android?	09:27
CazH	well, kinda	09:27
CazH	I often have some troubles with it	09:27
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	09:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	i had a trouble right now	09:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	couldn't slide the answer	09:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	my gf gonna kill me	09:28
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	09:28
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Tasty_boy_XDA	heyyyyy frind nineX_	11:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	:D	11:36
nineX_	hi	11:36
nineX_	did you get your blackstone questions answered?	11:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	got Android workin!	11:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	some...	11:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	others no	11:36
Tasty_boy_XDA	im fixing that by myself	11:37
Tasty_boy_XDA	dunno how to put songs in it	11:37
Tasty_boy_XDA	wanna hear some music	11:37
Tasty_boy_XDA	and it can't connect in storage mode	11:37
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Unholy	yo	14:20
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Tasty_boy_XDA	hey yo	15:06
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mrvanx	ns IDENTIFY	15:15
mrvanx	LOL! ages since have been on here	15:15
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	15:16
Tasty_boy_XDA	welcome back	15:16
mrvanx	hows shit every1?	15:16
mrvanx	Quick question regarding partitioning....................Ive resized my FAT32 partition and ive created two empty 300MB partitions no problem	15:19
mrvanx	Im gonna run a clean xdandroid (2.2) but everything should just go as normal in the "andboot" directory in my FAT32 partiton right?	15:19
mrvanx	then just run Haret as normal and it will sort out my ext2 partitions automatically?	15:20
Unholy	go here for preocmppiled images to run on ext2 parttions, http://balsat.hopto.org/	15:20
Tasty_boy_XDA	xdandroid 2.2?	15:21
mrvanx	ah crucial info.....this is on my SD card on my RAPH100	15:22
Unholy	stinebd you here?	15:26
CazH	mrvanx: If you are running the offical xdandroid builds you don't have any use for a ext2 paration	15:36
mrvanx	OK cool, so I'll get the latest zImage from the link posted above by UnHoly and run that?	15:37
mrvanx	(Ease me in gently lol.....im still a bitch of WM)	15:37
CazH	mrvanx: Unholy's link is for balsat, he makes a few changes to the xdandroid builds and then releases them	15:38
CazH	while they are very close to the xdandroid builds they might differ a bit.	15:39
CazH	The xdandroid builds are released on xda-developers.com under android development for raphael	15:39
CazH	by babijoee	15:40
mrvanx	Yep Ive got that running nice but was under the impression partitioning my SD card would lead to some performance increase	15:41
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Unholy	mrvanx if i were i woudl stick to system images, running form an ext2 parttion makes little diference in performance if any	15:45
CazH	mrvanx: not so sure of that, but feel free to do you own testing :)	15:45
mrvanx	:) Yer Im just breaking myself in with droid...........Am really quite impressed	15:46
Unholy	plus to update the rootfs on ext2 parttion systems is a pain in the ass for most ppl, since there is no rootfs.img, it is integrated isnide the system	15:46
Unholy	inside*	15:46
mrvanx	was gonna get a Desire, but it seems every1 is getting it.............myself Im happy with the hardware on the Raph so converting to droid would be great	15:47
mrvanx	I wonder how long until HTC begins making devices with a forward facing camera again...........since the (swear alert) iPhone 4 (sorry!) has one	15:47
Unholy	raph is great only bad thing about it is, tha tit comes with wince XD	15:47
mrvanx	But thats off topic	15:47
Unholy	that it*	15:47
mrvanx	I will stick with normal official xdandroid for now	15:48
mrvanx	will be great when internal memory can be flashed with it	15:48
Unholy	hopefully soon, neopeek is working on that	15:49
CazH	Unholy: why would it be so great to have it flashed to the rom?	15:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	15:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	i like so much that android, and now i gonna buy a Desir	15:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	Desire	15:49
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	15:49
Unholy	it woudl be somewhat faster? not having to boot to wince to boot into android?	15:49
Unholy	battery would last a bit longer	15:50
Tasty_boy_XDA	battery isn't improved	15:50
Tasty_boy_XDA	as ppl says	15:50
Unholy	it is yust not that notisable	15:50
Tasty_boy_XDA	hardware can be using maximum power for nothing	15:50
Tasty_boy_XDA	then it spends more energy	15:51
Unholy	eh?	15:51
Unholy	in the nand it would use less power	15:51
Unholy	fewer cpu sycles stolen by the sdcard	15:51
CazH	Unholy: so a shorter boot time, and the battery draw for the sd is VERY small	15:51
Tasty_boy_XDA	im so impressed, the SO is amazing	15:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	simple and clean	15:52
Unholy	still i would preffer to flash ti than to run it form the sdcard	15:52
Tasty_boy_XDA	beauty	15:52
Unholy	from*	15:52
CazH	All we would get is a shortere boot time. Not so sure thats worth it	15:52
CazH	Considering how unstable xdandroid is + the battery issues I wouldn't have it as a rom	15:53
Unholy	dependes	15:53
Unholy	to each its own	15:53
Unholy	i woudl prefer android over wince	15:53
Unholy	you differ	15:53
Unholy	what do you mean by unstable?	15:53
Unholy	works fine on my raph110	15:53
Tasty_boy_XDA	Unholy	15:54
Unholy	yes	15:54
Tasty_boy_XDA	how to put files inside it?	15:54
Tasty_boy_XDA	it can't connect as storage	15:54
Unholy	inside what?	15:54
Unholy	oh usb host is nto support for now	15:54
Unholy	so no you cant	15:54
Unholy	not*	15:54
CazH	Unholy: crashes and lock-ups	15:55
Unholy	ya not supported	15:55
Tasty_boy_XDA	yesterday i did a crazy thing	15:55
CazH	Don't get me wrong, xdandroid is great, but ti's just not there yet	15:55
Unholy	for you its not cazh, for me it is	15:55
CazH	and usb mass storage mode is not usb host...	15:55
Unholy	it all depends on what you like	15:55
Tasty_boy_XDA	hosted a file in sendspace and then downloaded from Android	15:55
Unholy	or need on android	15:55
Tasty_boy_XDA	installed and it works	15:55
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	15:55
CazH	Unholy: If you uses it all the time and don't have crashes why do you care about boot times? ;)	15:56
Unholy	because i do? dont whant wince?	15:57
CazH	Tasty_boy_XDA: do you have adb setup?	15:57
Tasty_boy_XDA	[CazH]: nope	15:57
Tasty_boy_XDA	what is dat?	15:57
CazH	Android debug brigde	15:57
CazH	can be used for many things	15:57
Tasty_boy_XDA	oh	15:57
Tasty_boy_XDA	im googlin	15:58
CazH	amongst others it has 2 commands called push and pull... They push a file to the phone or pull a file from the phone over usb ;)	15:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	hum	15:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	there's nice	15:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	cause i wanna put some songs	15:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	and files to install	15:58
Tasty_boy_XDA	games	15:58
mrvanx	Lol im still contending with using my MP3s as notifications and ringtones.........................im learning though!	15:58
mrvanx	Still love it I can connect to my exchange server	15:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	15:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	the default ringtones are cool	15:59
Tasty_boy_XDA	i like the default one	15:59
mrvanx	the aim is to migrate across to droid and have the same ringtones and etc....	16:00
mrvanx	contacts and calendar are all in fine thanks to exchange	16:00
Tasty_boy_XDA	watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oJh4xGMdSQ&feature=fvw	16:00
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CazH	Tasty_boy_XDA: another good tip for saving power is turning off the device :P	16:06
mrvanx	If only every1 knew!!! :p	16:08
CazH	hehe	16:08
Tasty_boy_XDA	[CazH]: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL	16:08
Tasty_boy_XDA	my 3,5 jack isn't working	16:09
Tasty_boy_XDA	lol	16:09
Tasty_boy_XDA	but i didnt wanna go back to WinMo	16:09
CazH	Sorry but all that dude is saying if you turn off stuff you don't use and disabled the data connection you save power... Well guess what, the turning off should be pretty obvious and the data connection I need to get my mails which is the main reason for me having a data service =/	16:09
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CazH	Oh yeah and the live wallpaper stuff... But that we allready have turned off because we noticed it was a major resource hog	16:10
Tasty_boy_XDA	in urs devices the wifi is buggy?	16:11
Tasty_boy_XDA	mine works, but after some time it brake and phone crashs	16:12
CazH	used my wifi for tethering to my laptop for like 3-4 hours straight last night, no probs :)	16:14
CazH	except the phone got insanly hot	16:14
thedicemaster	my wifi is still broken.	16:15
thedicemaster	wifi turns on, spends half a minute looking for available networks, and then turns off wifi with the message that it was unable to check for networks.	16:15
CazH	I think stinebd said something about the newest rootfs breaks wifi for babijoee's build	16:16
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thedicemaster	i hope we'll have a fairly stable 2.2 by the time my new battery arrives, and i go on a vacation. (which should take 2-3 weeks)	16:21
Tasty_boy_XDA	some guy was talkin bout it 2.2	16:33
Tasty_boy_XDA	hope it's more stable	16:34
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mrvanx	later people	16:43
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CazH	stinebd: have you learned the bot any new tricks today? :p	19:22
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hamagc	Wifi is working fot me with latest zimage and rootfs	20:19
hamagc	Scan and connect working	20:19
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Tasty_boy_XDA	hey guys	20:44
Tasty_boy_XDA	wots up	20:44
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Tasty_boy_XDA	nothing new today :s	21:35
Tasty_boy_XDA	:(	21:35
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mcbridematt	I'm getting a build error with libloc_api.so. Is that supposed to happen ?	22:23
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mcbridematt	(yes, I'm using make -i and that isn't getting past it)	22:24
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hamagc	Ok so trying to check out this flash. Doesn't seem to be working :(	23:56
hamagc	Using echo 1 > /sys/class/htc_hw/flash	23:56
hamagc	Got tired of typing into terminal and made a txt file with that command and named it flashon.sh	23:57
hamagc	Nothing :(	23:57

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