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| stinebd | phh: fyi, froyo breaks libhardware_legacy compatibility (both source and binary) | 00:49 |
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| bzo | stinebd: ah nice, how does it run? | 00:49 |
| stinebd | i have a branch in my clone on gitorious | 00:49 |
| stinebd | bzo: i have it going through first boot now | 00:50 |
| stinebd | aaaand it crashed | 00:50 |
| bzo | ah well, that would be too easy if it worked first time | 00:51 |
| stinebd | who said it was the first time? ;) | 00:51 |
| bzo | or the 10th time? :/ | 00:51 |
| bzo | stinebd: have you already fixed the libhw_legacy stuff? | 00:55 |
| stinebd | bzo: yes | 00:55 |
| stinebd | well, fixed to the point that it builds | 00:55 |
| stinebd | who knows if it works | 00:55 |
| bzo | I'm not seeing the changes at gitorious yet, are they pushed up to your clone? | 00:56 |
| stinebd | should be | 00:56 |
| stinebd | froyo branch | 00:56 |
| bzo | right, silly me, was still looking at master | 00:57 |
| bzo | stinebd: do you know why your merge commit on gitorious doesn't show the file changes? | 01:07 |
| bzo | http://gitorious.org/~stinebd/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/xdandroid-2_1-libhardware_legacy/commit/12dd7c8f1398fedd770d0ea563a7c68523b9df0a | 01:07 |
| stinebd | maybe gitorious limits the frontend to a certain size or something | 01:08 |
| bzo | I guess I'll try pulling it down then | 01:09 |
| bzo | where there lots of changes? | 01:09 |
| stinebd | that can't be it | 01:09 |
| stinebd | git diff is only 424 lines | 01:09 |
| stinebd | don't know what's up with gitorious | 01:10 |
| stinebd | oh wait, wrong commit | 01:10 |
| stinebd | 1005 lines, still not that big | 01:10 |
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| stinebd | well at least i can get it to the point where it draws a status bar and action window | 01:49 |
| stinebd | bed time | 01:50 |
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| stinebd | holy crap it works | 02:13 |
| stinebd | got a launcher, but it's very very crashy | 02:16 |
| stinebd | http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/2010-06-25%2002.21.23.jpg | 02:23 |
| stinebd | really bed time now | 02:24 |
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| templis | hi | 03:21 |
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| phh | [06:49:46] <stinebd> phh: fyi, froyo breaks libhardware_legacy compatibility (both source and binary) <--------- ah, that's why on my liquid I have Eclair's libhardware_legacy on Froyo... | 03:46 |
| phh | wait what ? | 03:46 |
| phh | anyway they still could have broken sources | 03:46 |
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| Hick-Sat | Hello all, any one here with any idea about Blackstone 3d ? | 05:37 |
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| jojo_ | hi | 07:54 |
| jojo_ | sry...i have really dumb question...is anybody here ? | 07:55 |
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| rayman18 | im here but i dont lnow if i could solve your problem xD | 08:04 |
| rayman18 | ask | 08:04 |
| phh | he is no longer here :p | 08:08 |
| rayman18 | oh :( | 08:09 |
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| *** phh sets mode: -o phh | 08:11 | |
| phh | (noone reads that but eh.) | 08:11 |
| rayman18 | maybe now everyboy reads the title :P | 08:15 |
| rayman18 | anyhow the new wiki is really usefull | 08:15 |
| phh | you can thank stinebd for that :p | 08:15 |
| rayman18 | in my opinion only is missing the info related to startup configs :P | 08:16 |
| phh | you can change that no ? | 08:16 |
| rayman18 | i thin only owners, but i cuold be wrong | 08:16 |
| phh | yeah that's likely. right. | 08:17 |
| rayman18 | in this way it is more secure :) | 08:18 |
| phh | yeah thanks spamers. | 08:18 |
| rayman18 | there are bad people every place, unfortunatly :P | 08:18 |
| rayman18 | stinebd is working on AOSP 2.2 yes? | 08:19 |
| phh | yup | 08:19 |
| phh | [08:23:58] <stinebd> http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/2010-06-25%2002.21.23.jpg | 08:20 |
| rayman18 | i saw that on xda :P | 08:20 |
| rayman18 | i also see good news fom him about "general perfomance" of 2.2 | 08:21 |
| rayman18 | will 2.2 need changes on the actual kernel? | 08:22 |
| phh | no | 08:23 |
| rayman18 | good news | 08:24 |
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| zbask | hi all | 08:33 |
| zbask | i have a question, now that we have an working kernel on htc leo can anybody build an release for it? | 08:33 |
| phh | no | 08:35 |
| phh | it doesn't even have TS ... | 08:35 |
| zbask | i know just want to try it out | 08:36 |
| phh | what do you want to try ?!? | 08:36 |
| zbask | i'll read more how to compile with that kernel | 08:36 |
| phh | you can't try anything without a touchscreen | 08:36 |
| zbask | i want to build an usb hub | 08:36 |
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| Cotulla | hello | 10:44 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | is the chan asleep? can anyone here help me set up a xdandroid build environment? I pulled from git, setup build config, and make fails | 10:47 |
| phh | wait for stinebd. | 10:55 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | oh crap...didn't you say he's got a busy week. Will he be on later? | 10:56 |
| phh | I don't know | 10:56 |
| phh | he was there yesterday thoguh :p | 10:57 |
| CazH | NeoMatrixJR: did you follow the instructions on the wiki? | 10:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah | 10:59 |
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| CazH | did you pull the eclair branch? | 11:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | didn't specify branch | 11:00 |
| CazH | I know stinebd is working on froyo, and that it's not working yet, maybe you pull that? | 11:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | will try. | 11:01 |
| CazH | Good luck ;) | 11:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | didn't known anything would have been removed. thanks for the tip. | 11:02 |
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| manja | hello all... Any idea where there is a HTC diamond specific install guide? | 11:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | also, if anyone knows it's "make -jX" and the wiki says X = CPUs +1. what is that flag for? | 11:02 |
| CazH | NeoMatrixJR: it how many instants of gcc you have running at a time | 11:03 |
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| CazH | since each instant only can use 1 cpu/core you need as many as you have cpus/cores and 1 to work on while the a instant is starting on a new file :) | 11:04 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok | 11:04 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, specified eclair, repo sync, make -j2, and error: build/core/base_rules.mk:117: *** system/core/vold: MODULE.TARGET.EXECUTABLES.vold already defined by system/vold. Stop. | 11:06 |
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| stinebd | hmm, broken manifest | 11:10 |
| stinebd | i'll take a look | 11:10 |
| stinebd | probably just a bad merge from upstream's master manifest | 11:11 |
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| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: repo sync and try again | 11:31 |
| CazH | stinebd: how is the porting going? :) | 11:35 |
| stinebd | CazH: just getting back to it now | 11:36 |
| stinebd | gonna need lots of work | 11:36 |
| CazH | Okay, have fun then ;) | 11:36 |
| NeoMatrixJR | thanks stinebd. make's up and running. I'm gonna guess this'll take a while on a 1core 2.5ghz cpu.... | 11:38 |
| stinebd | set the jobserver to 2 concurrency (-j2) or 3 if it can handle it | 11:38 |
| stinebd | it defaults to 1 which is ridiculous, it takes like 4 hours | 11:39 |
| stinebd | i have a quad core that can get the job done start to finish in like 45 minutes with -j4 | 11:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | set to -j2 | 11:40 |
| CazH | I have a single core sempron with 2,3ghz, with -j 3 i think i get about 2,5 hours :) | 11:40 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd... if I origionally did not specify a branch then went back and specified eclair, is there anything I have to do to "clean" it first to remove stuff from my first sync? | 11:54 |
| NeoMatrixJR | my make failed: make: *** No rule to make target `vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietary/CarDock.apk', needed by `out/target/product/msm/system/app/CarDock.apk'. Stop. | 11:54 |
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| stinebd | do you have the gapps package? | 12:14 |
| CazH | stinebd: he left :) | 12:16 |
| stinebd | ok | 12:16 |
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| user___ | can someone help me? | 12:31 |
| user___ | I need to recalibrate xdandroid on htc touch pro | 12:31 |
| CazH | user___: the touchs screen? | 12:32 |
| user___ | right | 12:32 |
| user___ | I need to recalibrate it without loosing current installation | 12:32 |
| CazH | in the same folder as your haret.exe is a file called ts.calibration or something like that? Delete that one and reboot xdandroid ;) | 12:32 |
| user___ | ok, I will try | 12:33 |
| user___ | thanks for advice | 12:33 |
| CazH | Np :) | 12:33 |
| user___ | btw - I fall in love in android since I saw him first time | 12:33 |
| user___ | on my htc of course | 12:34 |
| CazH | hehe didn't we all ;) | 12:34 |
| phh | ts-calibration in the root of the sdcard afaik | 12:34 |
| user___ | thanks once again :) | 12:34 |
| CazH | oh my bad, thought it was created in the folder where haret is :) | 12:34 |
| user___ | bye! | 12:34 |
| user___ | so maybe I will stay for longer while to talk with you | 12:35 |
| user___ | when you're planning to announce froyo? | 12:37 |
| stinebd | when it's ready | 12:37 |
| user___ | ok, I think I will stop to take your time... | 12:39 |
| user___ | thanks once again for advice and get luck with froyo | 12:39 |
| stinebd | did you see the picture on the forum? | 12:39 |
| user___ | of froyo? | 12:40 |
| stinebd | yes | 12:40 |
| stinebd | it's getting there, slowly | 12:40 |
| user___ | one second | 12:40 |
| phh | stinebd: if there is anything I can help about that btw | 12:40 |
| phh | (I can't see how, I hate android's userland, but well.) | 12:40 |
| stinebd | well if there's anything that you'll be able to help with, it'll probably be sensors or libhardware_legacy stuff | 12:41 |
| stinebd | so i'll have to get a working system before we worry about that | 12:41 |
| phh | I guess I have to see how badly they broke it | 12:42 |
| user___ | sorry but I'm not coder... | 12:42 |
| stinebd | i have a froyo branch in my clone for libhardware_legacy | 12:42 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/~stinebd/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/xdandroid-2_1-libhardware_legacy/commits/froyo | 12:43 |
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| stinebd | sensors might not be working too | 12:44 |
| stinebd | hopefully that would explain the crashing | 12:46 |
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| manjab | I do not have wifi, will XDandroid complete installation and connect to GPRS automatically? | 12:50 |
| phh | yes | 12:50 |
| phh | perhaps you'll need to set APNs | 12:50 |
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| stinebd | there could be a kernel problem | 13:04 |
| stinebd | I/Watchdog_N( 1301): dumpKernelStacks | 13:04 |
| stinebd | E/Watchdog_N( 1301): Unable to open stack of tid 1301 : 2 (No such file or directory) | 13:04 |
| stinebd | followed by that same second message for all the other running pids | 13:04 |
| phh | do you think that's needed ? | 13:05 |
| stinebd | well zygote dies immediately after that | 13:05 |
| stinebd | and i don't see any real errors before that | 13:05 |
| phh | nnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 13:06 |
| stinebd | it seems to happen when it's time for android to reclaim memory | 13:06 |
| stinebd | ie killing a background app | 13:07 |
| phh | hum | 13:08 |
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| stinebd | W/Watchdog( 3005): *** WATCHDOG KILLING SYSTEM PROCESS: null | 13:24 |
| stinebd | forgot that one too | 13:24 |
| stinebd | heh | 13:24 |
| stinebd | ok that stuff isn't needed | 13:27 |
| stinebd | // If we got here, that means that the system is most likely hung. // First collect stack traces from all threads of the system process. // Then kill this process so that the system will restart. | 13:27 |
| stinebd | gotta find out what's hanging then | 13:28 |
| |Jeroen| | im off to the cafe bye | 13:35 |
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| stinebd | ugh how is the keystore uid still broken? | 13:50 |
| stinebd | lol | 13:53 |
| stinebd | using a froyo init.rc might make sense | 13:54 |
| stinebd | yeeeah... seems much better now | 13:54 |
| stinebd | so | 13:55 |
| stinebd | very nice | 13:55 |
| stinebd | :D | 13:55 |
| stinebd | how do i get sd support working? | 13:55 |
| phh | how have I done that again | 13:56 |
| phh | hum | 13:56 |
| stinebd | there was one mention of a vold setting in eclair's init.rc | 13:56 |
| phh | stinebd: there is vold.conf | 13:56 |
| phh | and something fstab | 13:56 |
| stinebd | oh | 13:56 |
| phh | (I already fixed SD and A2SD for Liquid, I can help on that ;) | 13:57 |
| stinebd | working perfectly now | 13:59 |
| stinebd | with the new init.rc | 13:59 |
| stinebd | i should try it with the google apps | 13:59 |
| stinebd | i got all kinds of android permissions errors with those before | 13:59 |
| stinebd | they changed the usb debugging icon | 14:00 |
| stinebd | man the launcher is so much better now | 14:00 |
| phh | Launcher2 works for us ? | 14:01 |
| stinebd | yeah | 14:01 |
| stinebd | they made renderscript optional | 14:01 |
| phh | wow | 14:02 |
| phh | ah ok | 14:02 |
| stinebd | thank god | 14:02 |
| stinebd | it falls bad to 2d for the drawer | 14:02 |
| stinebd | err | 14:02 |
| stinebd | falls back* | 14:02 |
| stinebd | still looks ok | 14:02 |
| phh | and not slow as hell ? | 14:05 |
| stinebd | nope | 14:05 |
| stinebd | app transitions are much faster | 14:05 |
| stinebd | i think i said that in the thread earlier | 14:05 |
| stinebd | i took the overlay from dream in the device tree which speeds up some animations and stuff | 14:06 |
| stinebd | and simplifies alpha blending | 14:06 |
| stinebd | basically a lot of things i did wrong with eclair i'm doing right with froyo | 14:06 |
| phh | ah ok | 14:07 |
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| maiko | hi all | 14:12 |
| CazH | stinebd: any of the things your are doing right with froyo that might have a postive effect on battery usage? :) | 14:13 |
| stinebd | CazH: nope | 14:13 |
| CazH | Ow, didn't think so but I kinda hoped :P | 14:14 |
| CazH | stinebd: what do you need to get working before froyo is ready? :) | 14:14 |
| stinebd | CazH: accelerometer, wifi, bluetooth, radio, screen, sound, cpu, vibrations, sd card, LEDs, buttons | 14:15 |
| stinebd | just kidding for some of those | 14:15 |
| CazH | hehe okay :P | 14:15 |
| stinebd | most things that we implemented as android libraries need to be fixed | 14:15 |
| stinebd | so definitely wifi, accelerometer, gps and probably bluetooth | 14:16 |
| phh | stinebd: all of them are broken ? :'( | 14:16 |
| CazH | but gsm/3g/cdma is working and the system works otherwise? :) | 14:16 |
| stinebd | i don't have a sim card in it, but they should be working | 14:16 |
| maiko | About froyo.. The next release of xdandroid will be based on froyo? | 14:17 |
| stinebd | if you can convince babijoee NOT to make the next release froyo, then you get an award | 14:17 |
| phh | :p | 14:18 |
| CazH | awesome :D | 14:18 |
| stinebd | messaging is white now :o | 14:18 |
| phh | stinebd: yeah I switched many times these days | 14:19 |
| phh | it's really weird | 14:19 |
| stinebd | ahhaha | 14:21 |
| stinebd | nice | 14:22 |
| stinebd | it vibrates when the shutdown freezes now | 14:22 |
| stinebd | let me try it with a sim card in and see what happens | 14:23 |
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| CazH | stinebd: did it blow up or did you get a connection? :) | 14:34 |
| phh | lol | 14:41 |
| stinebd | i got distracted | 14:41 |
| stinebd | trying to fix vold | 14:41 |
| stinebd | no radio :( | 14:41 |
| phh | ah ril's broken too | 14:41 |
| phh | coo | 14:41 |
| phh | l | 14:41 |
| CazH | :( | 14:45 |
| stinebd | not too broken | 14:46 |
| stinebd | E/RILC ( 1748): RIL_register: RIL_RadioFunctions * null or invalid version (expected 3) | 14:46 |
| stinebd | that's all | 14:46 |
| stinebd | remember when we did that? | 14:46 |
| CazH | sounds like a value that needs to be change? :) | 14:46 |
| stinebd | because upstream aosp ril and rild had different version numbers | 14:46 |
| stinebd | so this time, we have an eclair ril with a froyo rild | 14:47 |
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| monodroid | ok, I read the install instructions, is this a correct assumption that installing Android will overwrite Windows Mobile? Probably a silly question but I just want to make sure =) | 14:52 |
| phh | monodroid: no it won't. | 14:52 |
| phh | android is on sdcard | 14:52 |
| monodroid | so, so I *can* still boot windows? | 14:52 |
| stinebd | ok vold.fstab should be good | 14:52 |
| phh | monodroid: you need to boot windows to boot android | 14:52 |
| monodroid | every time? | 14:53 |
| phh | yes | 14:53 |
| monodroid | cool | 14:53 |
| monodroid | I like that actually | 14:53 |
| monodroid | what kept me from playing with this was the fear of losing everything on my windows installation (contacts and such...) | 14:53 |
| monodroid | ok, sorry for being a bother, but will it then re-format/delete everything on the SD-card during the installation? =) | 14:56 |
| phh | no | 14:56 |
| monodroid | excellent! | 14:56 |
| monodroid | then I actually don't need to worry about anything | 14:56 |
| phh | :p | 14:56 |
| monodroid | alrighty, downloading now... it says the latest release is unstable, but I guess there IS no stable? | 15:00 |
| monodroid | so that's the one to get | 15:00 |
| CazH | monodroid: yeah just about right | 15:02 |
| monodroid | nice nice | 15:02 |
| CazH | your may have better luck with older versions but if you don't wanna do a lot of trail and error testing which is best for you just take the release from 21/6 | 15:03 |
| CazH | :) | 15:03 |
| monodroid | will do! | 15:03 |
| monodroid | let's see if we can get this thing installed then... | 15:03 |
| CazH | should be pretty straight forward | 15:05 |
| CazH | monodroid: which device are you trying xdandroid on? :) | 15:06 |
| babijoee | stinebd | 15:08 |
| babijoee | need any help? | 15:08 |
| stinebd | not yet, everything's going pretty smoothly so far | 15:10 |
| stinebd | some minor rage but nothing big | 15:10 |
| babijoee | good to hear | 15:11 |
| monodroid | CAzh: HTC Toch Pro, it's booting Linux now... that was scary easy to install | 15:12 |
| babijoee | that is performing as good as donut | 15:12 |
| monodroid | *Touch Pro | 15:12 |
| CazH | monodroid: nothing to be scare off :) the devs have done a good job on this thing ;) | 15:12 |
| babijoee | monodroid: we went through alot to make it as easy as possible | 15:13 |
| CazH | worst that can happen is android locks up and you have to soft-reset :) | 15:13 |
| babijoee | and people still don't get it right | 15:13 |
| babijoee | like for instance not copying the correct startup.txt | 15:13 |
| babijoee | CazH: yep, no worries | 15:13 |
| monodroid | this is really cool | 15:19 |
| babijoee | if you think this is good | 15:20 |
| babijoee | just wait until 2.2 is ready | 15:20 |
| babijoee | :p | 15:20 |
| monodroid | =D | 15:20 |
| monodroid | I'm just amazed how easy it was to get this working | 15:20 |
| monodroid | although, hm, it really doesn't seem to let me finish the sign-up-to-your-new-overlord-google wizard | 15:33 |
| monodroid | I've tried signing in, and things seem to work alright, but then it just asks me to add a new account again | 15:33 |
| mc44 | just quit out of it | 15:34 |
| monodroid | hm... I'd love to | 15:35 |
| monodroid | what's the secret combination? the Contra code doesn't work | 15:35 |
| babijoee | press the power button | 15:38 |
| monodroid | oh... | 15:38 |
| babijoee | it should then lead you to the home | 15:38 |
| babijoee | its a little loop problem | 15:38 |
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| babijoee | after you do it once you dont have to do it again | 15:39 |
| monodroid | ah, okay :) | 15:39 |
| babijoee | look at the 3rd post | 15:39 |
| hamagc | Afternoon guys | 15:39 |
| babijoee | on my thread, it explains how to use and navigate | 15:39 |
| babijoee | its early morning for me hamagc | 15:39 |
| hamagc | How are we looking today? | 15:39 |
| babijoee | ;p | 15:39 |
| babijoee | things are running smoothly | 15:40 |
| hamagc | Lol what time is it down under? Its just past noon here in cali. Stinebd merge the update yet | 15:40 |
| hamagc | ? | 15:40 |
| babijoee | its 5:40am | 15:40 |
| hamagc | Eww almost bedtime lol. I have to run to the hospital for the mominlaw. Ill check back a bit later to see what's going on. | 15:41 |
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| stinebd | phh: i need google apps that work with froyo if you know where to get them | 15:57 |
| stinebd | the package i use for eclair is no good with froyo | 15:57 |
| phh | stinebd: you have the list of the needed files ? | 15:57 |
| stinebd | no | 15:57 |
| phh | I guess it's in the AOSP sources ? | 15:58 |
| stinebd | um | 15:58 |
| stinebd | nope | 15:59 |
| phh | ok. | 15:59 |
| phh | blind tests ? :p | 15:59 |
| stinebd | when i say google apps i mean something like this: http://www.mediafire.com/?hy2yj42my3i | 15:59 |
| phh | stinebd: anyway just download any froyo rom, I wouldn't be able to help you more than that | 15:59 |
| stinebd | are there any actual full froyo roms? | 16:00 |
| stinebd | all i ever see are n1 updates | 16:00 |
| phh | eclair => froyo updates ar rom | 16:00 |
| stinebd | no | 16:00 |
| stinebd | they're patches | 16:00 |
| phh | ah. | 16:00 |
| phh | i've got one then. | 16:00 |
| phh | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SZM79BR1 | 16:00 |
| phh | (sorry for megaupload) | 16:00 |
| stinebd | thanks | 16:01 |
| stinebd | is this a device dump or was it pieced together? | 16:01 |
| phh | device dump | 16:01 |
| stinebd | great | 16:01 |
| phh | well, modded everywhere afterwards, but apps are untouched | 16:02 |
| stinebd | augh, odexed | 16:06 |
| phh | stinebd: btw, JIT works ? | 16:07 |
| stinebd | i guess | 16:07 |
| babijoee | stinebd: have you tried flash? | 16:08 |
| stinebd | babijoee: i can't | 16:08 |
| phh | babijoee: no wifi, no 3G :p | 16:08 |
| babijoee | ooo | 16:08 |
| phh | stinebd: adb and usbnet work no ? :p | 16:08 |
| stinebd | and no google apps | 16:09 |
| phh | err | 16:09 |
| phh | that one doesn't help. | 16:09 |
| babijoee | market? | 16:09 |
| stinebd | market is a google app | 16:09 |
| babijoee | :p | 16:10 |
| babijoee | no good | 16:10 |
| stinebd | there's no way flash is part of aosp | 16:10 |
| babijoee | i know | 16:10 |
| stinebd | so unless we can get working google apps, no flash | 16:10 |
| babijoee | but you can use it for 2.2 | 16:10 |
| babijoee | ah k | 16:10 |
| babijoee | try phh link | 16:10 |
| stinebd | i did | 16:10 |
| babijoee | ok | 16:11 |
| phh | stinebd: what is odex ? precompiled stuff ? | 16:11 |
| babijoee | stinebd: have you bought an android phone? | 16:11 |
| stinebd | i'm going to have to find a deodex program to go through all that stuff and pick out everything we need from frameworks and stuff | 16:11 |
| stinebd | i have an unrooted nexus one | 16:11 |
| stinebd | that will stay unrooted | 16:11 |
| babijoee | why? | 16:11 |
| phh | stinebd: you're using it for app dev ? | 16:11 |
| stinebd | phh: no | 16:11 |
| stinebd | i use it for real life | 16:12 |
| phh | oooooohh | 16:12 |
| babijoee | hahhaa | 16:12 |
| stinebd | and it's staying unrooted because i spent $530 on it and can't void the warranty | 16:12 |
| babijoee | oo | 16:12 |
| phh | and that with froyo there is no need to root it | 16:12 |
| stinebd | actually | 16:13 |
| stinebd | with eclair i don't have much need to root it even | 16:13 |
| phh | you have enough space ? | 16:13 |
| stinebd | i guess | 16:13 |
| stinebd | no complaining from android yet | 16:13 |
| phh | that's why I rooted my liquid at first place ... | 16:13 |
| phh | 130MB is WAY too little. | 16:14 |
| babijoee | like winmo phones, cooked roms are better than stock | 16:14 |
| stinebd | not always | 16:14 |
| stinebd | ever used a cyanogen rom? | 16:14 |
| babijoee | yeah | 16:14 |
| babijoee | i used his | 16:14 |
| babijoee | and paul obriens roms too | 16:14 |
| babijoee | whats wrong with cyanogen roms? | 16:14 |
| stinebd | too many modifications that he either doesn't test enough or doesn't really understand | 16:15 |
| phh | the only things I hear cyanogen's about is its bugs. | 16:15 |
| babijoee | ooo | 16:16 |
| babijoee | i quite like it | 16:16 |
| phh | (not considering that he integrated two of my changes and I got no thank at all.) | 16:16 |
| babijoee | it gives more options for customisation | 16:16 |
| babijoee | really? | 16:16 |
| babijoee | thats not good | 16:16 |
| stinebd | non-rooted devices can adb pull arbitrary files right? | 16:17 |
| phh | overclock and make lowmemorykiller take in account ramzswap | 16:17 |
| phh | stinebd: yup | 16:17 |
| stinebd | i do have a list of files | 16:17 |
| stinebd | in device/htc/passion i guess | 16:17 |
| phh | stinebd: it will be odexed ayway | 16:18 |
| babijoee | phh: cyanogen rom is made from lots of users | 16:18 |
| stinebd | nope | 16:18 |
| stinebd | no apps in there either | 16:18 |
| babijoee | maybe someone took it | 16:18 |
| phh | babijoee: yeah that's what stinebd said. | 16:18 |
| phh | CM includes many patches. | 16:18 |
| stinebd | well i can deodex the apps | 16:18 |
| stinebd | that's not a problem | 16:18 |
| stinebd | it'll take forever though | 16:19 |
| phh | stinebd: well you have the apps | 16:19 |
| stinebd | i just need to find out what i need ;) | 16:19 |
| thedicemaster | ooh, little question about xdandroid. is it possible to remove the "initial setup"?(the keyboard tutorial, and google account signing-in) | 16:19 |
| phh | thedicemaster: yup | 16:19 |
| phh | some apks to remove in system/app | 16:19 |
| phh | their names are explicit | 16:20 |
| thedicemaster | a build from a month ago or so had some problems for me. | 16:20 |
| thedicemaster | it had 2 of those setups, in the 2nd one you couldn't skip the signing in. | 16:20 |
| phh | ah one is market's one I guess | 16:20 |
| stinebd | SetupWizard.apk | 16:20 |
| thedicemaster | quite a problem when your data connection doesn't want to start and wifi startup would crash android. | 16:20 |
| phh | phh @ phh-desktop ~/AndroidDiamond/ % grep vdec_frame_info -r . 2>/dev/null | 16:20 |
| phh | that's going to take a while. | 16:20 |
| phh | (I must have ~ 15GB of various kernel sources in there) | 16:21 |
| phh | (google couldn't help me on that one, so I have to use grep on my own database.) | 16:21 |
| thedicemaster | the 2nd one came up before even starting anything though, started straight after finishing the 1st setup. | 16:21 |
| phh | thedicemaster: uh ? | 16:22 |
| phh | weird | 16:22 |
| thedicemaster | the 2nd one had a similar layout, but no keyboard tutorial, different skin, and no skip button. | 16:22 |
| thedicemaster | i'd imagine if it was for market you'd just be able to close it and market would close as well. | 16:23 |
| phh | no | 16:23 |
| phh | you must do home to do that | 16:23 |
| thedicemaster | but the only ways to close it where either succesfully signing in, or turning off the phone just to have it come back on next boot. | 16:24 |
| stinebd | i found an frf83 dump | 16:24 |
| babijoee | thedicemaster: can't you hit power button to goto home screen? | 16:24 |
| stinebd | we'll see if those are odexed too | 16:24 |
| stinebd | probably are | 16:24 |
| thedicemaster | home button didn't work for me. got past it though because eventually my data connection did start. | 16:24 |
| babijoee | lol | 16:25 |
| babijoee | ok | 16:25 |
| thedicemaster | normally home (power) button does work, just not on either of the setup screens. | 16:25 |
| thedicemaster | good to know though that if it ever does that again on a new version i should just be able to rip it out. | 16:26 |
| stinebd | nice, deodexed | 16:26 |
| babijoee | awesome | 16:26 |
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| stinebd | DroidEmailPolicy.apk, definitely want that | 16:27 |
| stinebd | stupid sholes rom | 16:28 |
| thedicemaster | anyone got any experience with ADWlauncher as pre-installed? i noticed some apps(VGA-hacked swype) don't like being pre-installed(fc's) | 16:29 |
| stinebd | well lets see how this one works | 16:44 |
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| phh | stinebd: btw, concerning SD | 16:56 |
| phh | there is a little note I have, if the SD card has an ext2 partition, vold just won't take it | 16:56 |
| stinebd | vold config changed for froyo | 16:57 |
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| stinebd | so as long as the first partition is vfat it should be able to mount it (if set to auto) | 16:57 |
| phh | doesn't work on liquid | 16:58 |
| stinebd | great, new google apps work | 17:00 |
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| adamw | huh. http://southcape.org/2010/03/18/xdandroid-eclair-wifi-tethering/ seems to be under-publicised! | 17:12 |
| stinebd | nobody likes my articles ;) | 17:13 |
| CazH | stinebd: thats not true, I like them :) | 17:13 |
| adamw | it should be in the default install or something, i think | 17:14 |
| adamw | stinebd: it might be good to do a newer post just noting that everything is in current kernel / rootfs so you can just install the app and go...as it seems to me :) | 17:14 |
| stinebd | too busy for any of that stuff at the moment | 17:15 |
| adamw | fair enough | 17:15 |
| adamw | maybe i should abuse my #2 post in the tp2 thread and mention it there, heh | 17:15 |
| stinebd | ok a froyo ril works with no modifications | 17:16 |
| phh | stinebd: just delete the version hack ? | 17:16 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:16 |
| phh | cool | 17:16 |
| stinebd | sensors is an issue though | 17:17 |
| stinebd | http://pastebin.com/hCtthgGB | 17:18 |
| phh | sounds cool. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | libh_l fails to start wifi | 17:19 |
| phh | stinebd: you rebuilt them against correct includes ? | 17:19 |
| stinebd | correct includes? | 17:19 |
| phh | well, 2.2's libhardware | 17:20 |
| stinebd | it's in our froyo manifest so it got built with the rest of the system | 17:21 |
| phh | ok | 17:21 |
| phh | ohhh | 17:24 |
| phh | stinebd: is it built with the "ECLAIR" CFLAG ? | 17:24 |
| phh | (I think you added autodetection at some point ?) | 17:24 |
| stinebd | good call | 17:25 |
| phh | stinebd: the get_sensors_list returns 7 even when we disable some sensors for !ECLAIR ;) | 17:26 |
| phh | fix pushed | 17:26 |
| stinebd | ok gprs confirmed working | 17:27 |
| phh | good call => sensors work ? or just don't crash yet ? | 17:28 |
| stinebd | building now | 17:28 |
| stinebd | well | 17:32 |
| stinebd | instead of crashing, it just halts the android boot process | 17:32 |
| stinebd | oh, vm still crashed indeed | 17:33 |
| phh | huhu | 17:33 |
| stinebd | let me try a fresh boot | 17:33 |
| stinebd | ... | 17:35 |
| stinebd | google :/ | 17:35 |
| stinebd | BUILD_ID=MASTER | 17:35 |
| stinebd | in the froyo branch... | 17:35 |
| phh | lol | 17:35 |
| stinebd | PLATFORM_VERSION=2.2 | 17:37 |
| stinebd | that'll work | 17:37 |
| phh | will be broken for gingerbreaden | 17:38 |
| stinebd | ginger will be 2.3 or whatever | 17:38 |
| phh | pushed | 17:38 |
| phh | (no need to read commit msg :p) | 17:39 |
| stinebd | there we go | 17:40 |
| stinebd | works | 17:41 |
| phh | cool | 17:41 |
| phh | so, gps, wifi left ? | 17:45 |
| stinebd | i jumped the gun on gprs | 17:45 |
| stinebd | E/pppd ( 1822): By default the remote system is required to authenticate itself | 17:48 |
| stinebd | E/pppd ( 1822): (because this system has a default route to the internet) | 17:48 |
| stinebd | E/pppd ( 1822): but I couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so. | 17:48 |
| stinebd | E/pppd ( 1822): (None of the available passwords would let it use an IP address.) | 17:48 |
| stinebd | but yes, wifi left. i haven't checked gps yet | 17:49 |
| stinebd | and i have to re-edit my init for bluetooth | 17:49 |
| phh | yeah right | 17:50 |
| stinebd | i might need to edit init for wifi too | 17:51 |
| phh | could be | 17:52 |
| stinebd | love the vibrate on shutdown | 17:55 |
| phh | I hate everything involving "external" notifications that can't be configured | 17:56 |
| stinebd | ok gprs works again, no idea what went wrong there | 18:00 |
| stinebd | tiwlan might need an updated wlan_loader | 18:06 |
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| CazH | stinebd: how are things going, you haven't complain about anything in a while now ? :P | 19:18 |
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| mastermerlin | gotta go .. | 19:33 |
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| stinebd | CazH: gave up shortly before you typed that. made pretty good progress today. | 21:04 |
| CazH | stinebd: from what I understand you have it booting and a data connection? | 21:05 |
| CazH | Sounds great :D | 21:05 |
| stinebd | CazH: boots, runs stable and fast. data works. wifi and bt don't (at least on TI), haven't tried gps. got some google apps to work. | 21:07 |
| CazH | sounds sweet | 21:07 |
| stinebd | i should push my froyo updates to rootfs before i forget | 21:08 |
| CazH | you didn't by any chance get market up and running and tried linpack? :P | 21:08 |
| stinebd | got market running, but didn't install any apps | 21:08 |
| CazH | Good idea, would hate for all you had work to be forgotten before commited ;) | 21:08 |
| CazH | Okay, just wondering what kinda of speed boost froyo gives xdandroid :) | 21:09 |
| stinebd | for benchmarks, it would probably be a 2-3x increase from our jit-enabled eclair | 21:09 |
| CazH | sweet :D | 21:10 |
| CazH | Any guess on real-life performance boost? | 21:10 |
| stinebd | in practical performance (ie. using the launcher and switching between apps), it's comfortable compared to eclair | 21:10 |
| stinebd | usable as an everyday phone | 21:11 |
| stinebd | imo eclair wasn't | 21:11 |
| CazH | nice | 21:11 |
| CazH | at one point I had eclair running smooth enough for a everyday phone on my diam. | 21:12 |
| CazH | But then I updated something and then it was slow :S | 21:12 |
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| stinebd | the launcher choppiness was really bad. to the point where it would cause poor touch detection | 21:12 |
| stinebd | that's gone in froyo | 21:12 |
| CazH | sweet :) | 21:13 |
| CazH | Ahhh can't wait to get froyo up and running | 21:14 |
| CazH | I'm guess you don't have a zImage+rootfs+system.img ready for me? :P | 21:14 |
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| stinebd | no system image yet, no | 21:30 |
| stinebd | zimage and rootfs are all set ;) | 21:31 |
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| stinebd | there is a repo manifest if you'd like to try to build it yourself (if you know how) | 21:31 |
| CazH | stinebd: I know how to build eclair. Is froyo any different ? | 21:32 |
| stinebd | CazH: a little bit | 21:32 |
| CazH | would you mind trying to explain it? :) | 21:33 |
| stinebd | the vendor tree i wrote about in the eclair documentation isn't used anymore | 21:33 |
| stinebd | our parts are in the device/xdandroid/msm tree now (very similar to vendor) | 21:33 |
| stinebd | you can use a very similar buildspec.mk, here's mine: | 21:34 |
| stinebd | TARGET_PRODUCT := full_msm | 21:34 |
| stinebd | TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT := eng | 21:34 |
| stinebd | TARGET_BUILD_TYPE := release | 21:34 |
| stinebd | WITH_JIT := true | 21:34 |
| stinebd | TARGET_USERIMAGES_USE_EXT2 := true | 21:34 |
| CazH | Okay :) | 21:35 |
| stinebd | the big difference is in the proprietary bits | 21:35 |
| stinebd | no more buildspec flags for what you want included in the system image | 21:35 |
| CazH | I all ready have a tree checked out, but I chose the froyo branch and it seems that I don't have device/xdandroid ? | 21:35 |
| stinebd | maybe i didn't add it to manifest | 21:36 |
| stinebd | oh right, because it wasn't checked in before | 21:36 |
| CazH | Glad you seem to know what your doing, i'm really new to git :P Played a bit with svn before but not much :) | 21:38 |
| CazH | stinebd: you have a typo in you update | 21:41 |
| stinebd | yup | 21:41 |
| CazH | you wrote vendor insted of device :) | 21:41 |
| stinebd | fixed already | 21:41 |
| CazH | oh :P | 21:41 |
| CazH | Yeah, now repo is playing along nicely | 21:42 |
| stinebd | so much for that theory about me knowing what i'm doing, huh? | 21:42 |
| CazH | Hehe | 21:42 |
| CazH | well you stil know it better than me :P | 21:42 |
| stinebd | anyway, once it's all set, get the dream image and hw3d zip that we used for eclair and put them in your froyo aosp root | 21:42 |
| stinebd | and then wait for me to upload this gapps pack i made if you want that stuff | 21:43 |
| CazH | I would like that stuff yes :) | 21:43 |
| CazH | And thank you for taking the time to explain this to me, and for doing all the hard work :) | 21:43 |
| stinebd | and then once you get that zip in the root, go into device/xdandroid/msm and ./unzip-files.sh | 21:44 |
| stinebd | and then make and pray | 21:44 |
| CazH | not real big on praying, but might be worth giving it a shot for this :P | 21:46 |
| stinebd | the android gods may smite you otherwise | 21:47 |
| babijoee | stinebd: doing any work atm? | 21:47 |
| stinebd | babijoee: i'm about to retire for the night actually | 21:48 |
| babijoee | ah k | 21:48 |
| babijoee | what time is it for you | 21:48 |
| stinebd | did you need something? | 21:48 |
| stinebd | almost 10pm | 21:48 |
| babijoee | not really | 21:48 |
| babijoee | i wanna also build it too | 21:48 |
| babijoee | :p | 21:48 |
| babijoee | so i can actually contribute to the aosp | 21:48 |
| babijoee | rather than repackage all the time its quite anooying | 21:49 |
| babijoee | how big is this to setup | 21:49 |
| stinebd | how big in disk space? | 21:49 |
| babijoee | yeah | 21:49 |
| stinebd | 8.6GB for a built tree | 21:50 |
| babijoee | thats going to take a whiel | 21:50 |
| CazH | 4,1GB for a tree that I only checked out :) | 21:50 |
| stinebd | CazH: http://www.mediafire.com/?tjj0hrz2mjm | 21:50 |
| stinebd | for gapps | 21:50 |
| CazH | Sweet :) | 21:50 |
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| CazH | And now make is running | 21:52 |
| CazH | nothing left to do but pray :) | 21:52 |
| babijoee | gl CazH | 21:54 |
| CazH | Thank you babijoee | 21:54 |
| babijoee | let me know how it performs eh | 21:54 |
| stinebd | i'm off to bed. any issues just email or PM me on xda and i'll get to you hopefully some time this weekend | 21:55 |
| CazH | will do, but it gonna be a while :) eclair took about 2.5 hours to build on this machine so gonna be a while :) | 21:55 |
| CazH | stinebd: will do, and thanks again :) | 21:55 |
| babijoee | it takes that long? | 21:57 |
| CazH | yeah when compiling from scratch :) | 21:57 |
| CazH | if you only have a couple of change files that need compling it builds way faster :) | 21:58 |
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| hamagc | wow so you guys got it booting already? That's amazing! | 22:12 |
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| CazH | hamagc: well at least stinebd is :) | 22:19 |
| CazH | stinebd: did you go to sleep? | 22:20 |
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